Re: LPRng: Problem with 'file'
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Matt Forrest wrote: Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 12:07:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Forrest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: LPRng: Problem with 'file' Any hex editor would work but since you've mentioned vi, I feel obligated to tell you I looked at it using emacs. emacs is your friend - let the holy wars begin!!! :) hm I just loaded it up in vi and it also shows the nulls... I'm on a RH 7.3 box right now so it's actually vim. yeah... on solaris vi screws it up. less works fine though. Like any real vi does. The vim that comes with RedHat and several other linux distributions is not real vi and one of the improvements is to display NUL characters as ^@ rather than removing them. vim also have the -b option for editing or displaying a binary file. Also if you have vim you also have xxd for hexadecimal display. Villy - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. -
Re: LPRng: Problem with 'file'
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Ryan Novosielski wrote: Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 10:23:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Ryan Novosielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: LPRng: Problem with 'file' Treating it as data is fine with me -- however, when file can't figure out what it is, there is a problem, as I do check for file type with ifhp and it will refuse unrecognized file types. In my setup I would route anything comming from a MS-Win system to a printer queue which have no filter what so ever, and leave the filtering entries to be used by unix users. As you can see from the files below, vi appears to have halved the contents of the file -- I'm assuming that the file after vi is done is no longer usable. Perhaps this question is now becoming one that is more for the file mailing list, but I had said that I would post the files in question regardless. The curious thing is that file, AFAIK, looks at the beginning of a file. vi would not likely be changing the beginning of the first line of the file that signals PCL data, so it doesn't make sense that it would have an effect on that (not to me, anyway). Also interesting is that this printer doesn't seem to use PJL prior to its PCL stream, which is odd from my experience. Here is the URL: http://www.umdnj.edu/~novosirj/PCL-data-problem Hexadecimal dump of the two files. The dump is incomplete, just enough to get the point. The file /var/tmp/xxx/Job927-df-data.prn had 1200 bytes of leading binary zeroes. Also note the data at 00500: in the data.prn file and compare with the data at position 0050: in the PCL.prn file. :: /var/tmp/xxx/Job927-df-PCL.prn.hex :: : 1b 25 2d 31 32 33 34 35 58 40 50 4a 4c 20 4a 4f [EMAIL PROTECTED] JO 0010: 42 20 4e 41 4d 45 3d 22 33 65 66 38 36 39 33 30 B NAME=3ef86930 0020: 31 34 38 31 6e 6f 76 6f 73 69 72 6a 22 0a 40 50 1481novosirj[EMAIL PROTECTED] 0030: 4a 4c 20 45 4e 54 45 52 20 4c 41 4e 47 55 41 47 JL ENTER LANGUAG 0040: 45 3d 50 43 4c 33 47 55 49 0a 1b 2a 6f 35 57 04 E=PCL3GUI..*o5W. 0050: 09 1b 2a 6f 35 57 04 0d 0d 84 1b 2a 6f 35 57 0a ..*o5W.*o5W. 0060: 05 1b 26 6c 37 48 1b 26 6c 30 4d 1b 2a 6f 37 57 ..l7H.l0M.*o7W 0070: 08 09 07 01 01 1b 26 6c 32 41 1b 26 6c 2d 32 48 ..l2A.l-2H 0080: 1b 2a 6f 35 57 0a 01 1b 2a 6f 35 57 07 08 02 1b .*o5W...*o5W 0090: 2a 6f 30 4d 1b 26 75 33 30 30 44 1b 2a 70 30 58 *o0M.u300D.*p0X 00a0: 1b 2a 70 33 35 59 1b 2a 67 32 36 57 02 04 01 2c .*p35Y.*g26W..., :: /var/tmp/xxx/Job927-df-data.prn.hex :: Same 04b0: 1b 25 2d 31 32 33 34 35 58 40 50 4a 4c 20 4a 4f [EMAIL PROTECTED] JO 04c0: 42 20 4e 41 4d 45 3d 22 33 65 66 38 36 39 33 30 B NAME=3ef86930 04d0: 31 34 38 31 6e 6f 76 6f 73 69 72 6a 22 0a 40 50 1481novosirj[EMAIL PROTECTED] 04e0: 4a 4c 20 45 4e 54 45 52 20 4c 41 4e 47 55 41 47 JL ENTER LANGUAG 04f0: 45 3d 50 43 4c 33 47 55 49 0a 1b 2a 6f 35 57 04 E=PCL3GUI..*o5W. 0500: 09 00 00 00 1b 2a 6f 35 57 04 0d 00 0d 84 1b 2a .*o5W..* 0510: 6f 35 57 0a 05 00 00 00 1b 26 6c 37 48 1b 26 6c o5W..l7H.l 0520: 30 4d 1b 2a 6f 37 57 08 09 00 00 07 01 01 1b 26 0M.*o7W 0530: 6c 32 41 1b 26 6c 2d 32 48 1b 2a 6f 35 57 0a 01 l2A.l-2H.*o5W.. 0540: 00 00 00 1b 2a 6f 35 57 07 08 00 00 02 1b 2a 6f *o5W..*o 0550: 30 4d 1b 26 75 33 30 30 44 1b 2a 70 30 58 1b 2a 0M.u300D.*p0X.* 0560: 70 33 35 59 1b 2a 67 32 36 57 02 04 01 2c 01 2c p35Y.*g26W...,., -- Villy - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. -
Re: LPRng: Problem with 'file'
On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 21:58, Matt Forrest wrote: The 1st 1200 bytes of the file are all zero (AKA 0x00) immediately after that you have the normal ESC code for some PJL stuff I too confirmed this, there is something seriously wrong with one of your drivers. How did you generate this file? is it directly from windows i.e. Print to file, or is it taken from a stopped queue on the server? I am not surprised that 'file' is having problems! We too use the same printer here, if you like I can try and find out the version of our windows drivers (I'm a unix person ;-) as I know for a fact that we don't get that 'crappy' stuff at the beginning of printouts. cheers, sam Try stripping off just those bytes or get http://www.scs.ryerson.ca/mforrest/printing/Job927-df-mf.prn In the -PCL- you don't have the ESC code to end the job.. shouldn't be a problem if the printer is set to auto personality, but I've always seen it there. If you just strip the zeros from the start of the file I'm guessing it will work fine. I haven't tried printing it 'cause I'm lazy right now and don't want to have to walk to the printer :) mATT * A neurotic worries about going crazy, but never will A psychotic IS crazy, but doesn't worry about it! ... Don't worry, be happy!!! :} * - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. - -- CERN, Geneva IT - Product Support - Unix Infrastructure E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. -
Re: LPRng: Problem with 'file'
On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 21:58, Matt Forrest wrote: I too confirmed this, there is something seriously wrong with one of your drivers. Can I put in a me too. I found 600 null bytes on an HP driver for the 1200C. I wrote a filter to rip off NULL's and then pass the result onto the normal ifhp filter. I found it was faster to write the filter than to telephone HP customer support. I don't seem to need it now so that driver at least has been fixed. -- __[EMAIL PROTECTED]Jonathan Knight, / Department of Computer Science / _ __ Telephone: +44 1782 583437 University of Keele, Keele, (_/ (_) / / Fax : +44 1782 713082 Staffordshire. ST5 5BG. U.K. - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. -
Re: LPRng: Problem with 'file'
Hmm. Sorry, Ryan, I see that in my hurry late yesterday I got mixed up as to which file was which. I guess I'm with both whoever said that files from Windows boxes normally should not be filtered at all on the print server, and with those who said that the Windows print driver appears to be broken. (But what does happen if you send the Win job, with all those nulls, to the printer in raw mode, with no filtering?) -- - Dave Lovelace [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. -
Re: LPRng: Problem with 'file'
How were you able to determine that? None of the programs I threw at it seemed to be able to tell. _ _ _ _ ___ _ _ _ |Y#| | | |\/| | \ |\ | | | Ryan Novosielski - Jr. UNIX Systems Admin |$| |__| | | |__/ | \| _| | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 973/972.0922 (2-0922) \__/ Univ. of Med. and Dent. | IST/ACS - NJMS Medical Science Bldg - C630 On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Matt Forrest wrote: The 1st 1200 bytes of the file are all zero (AKA 0x00) immediately after that you have the normal ESC code for some PJL stuff Try stripping off just those bytes or get http://www.scs.ryerson.ca/mforrest/printing/Job927-df-mf.prn In the -PCL- you don't have the ESC code to end the job.. shouldn't be a problem if the printer is set to auto personality, but I've always seen it there. If you just strip the zeros from the start of the file I'm guessing it will work fine. I haven't tried printing it 'cause I'm lazy right now and don't want to have to walk to the printer :) mATT * A neurotic worries about going crazy, but never will A psychotic IS crazy, but doesn't worry about it! ... Don't worry, be happy!!! :} * - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. - - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. -
Re: LPRng: Problem with 'file'
Ryan Novosielski wrote: How were you able to determine that? None of the programs I threw at it seemed to be able to tell. od -xv Job927-df-data.prn | less ... (or more if you don't have less) This will show you your data in hex-dump format. Each 00 is a null. I think the x and v options will be accepted in even ancient versions of od. The GNU od has lots of other options you may find helpful, if you've got it or something based on it. man od ... (Adding -c may either be helpful or make the output unreadable, depending.) (Oh. The -x is hex values, -v prevents it from omitting all the identical lines.) -- - Dave Lovelace [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. -
Re: LPRng: Problem with 'file'
Any hex editor would work but since you've mentioned vi, I feel obligated to tell you I looked at it using emacs. emacs is your friend - let the holy wars begin!!! :) hm I just loaded it up in vi and it also shows the nulls... I'm on a RH 7.3 box right now so it's actually vim. yeah... on solaris vi screws it up. less works fine though. mATT * A neurotic worries about going crazy, but never will A psychotic IS crazy, but doesn't worry about it! ... Don't worry, be happy!!! :} * - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. -
Re: LPRng: Problem with 'file'
Have you still got the filter? _ _ _ _ ___ _ _ _ |Y#| | | |\/| | \ |\ | | | Ryan Novosielski - Jr. UNIX Systems Admin |$| |__| | | |__/ | \| _| | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 973/972.0922 (2-0922) \__/ Univ. of Med. and Dent. | IST/ACS - NJMS Medical Science Bldg - C630 On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Jonathan Knight wrote: On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 21:58, Matt Forrest wrote: I too confirmed this, there is something seriously wrong with one of your drivers. Can I put in a me too. I found 600 null bytes on an HP driver for the 1200C. I wrote a filter to rip off NULL's and then pass the result onto the normal ifhp filter. I found it was faster to write the filter than to telephone HP customer support. I don't seem to need it now so that driver at least has been fixed. -- __[EMAIL PROTECTED]Jonathan Knight, / Department of Computer Science / _ __ Telephone: +44 1782 583437 University of Keele, Keele, (_/ (_) / / Fax : +44 1782 713082 Staffordshire. ST5 5BG. U.K. - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. - - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. -
Re: LPRng: Problem with 'file'
HP-UX vi screws it up too. I never thought of less -- less made it very obvious what was going on. I am used to not having less (instead having only more) and it is less obvious with more. Pff, emacs. _ _ _ _ ___ _ _ _ |Y#| | | |\/| | \ |\ | | | Ryan Novosielski - Jr. UNIX Systems Admin |$| |__| | | |__/ | \| _| | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 973/972.0922 (2-0922) \__/ Univ. of Med. and Dent. | IST/ACS - NJMS Medical Science Bldg - C630 On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Matt Forrest wrote: Any hex editor would work but since you've mentioned vi, I feel obligated to tell you I looked at it using emacs. emacs is your friend - let the holy wars begin!!! :) hm I just loaded it up in vi and it also shows the nulls... I'm on a RH 7.3 box right now so it's actually vim. yeah... on solaris vi screws it up. less works fine though. mATT * A neurotic worries about going crazy, but never will A psychotic IS crazy, but doesn't worry about it! ... Don't worry, be happy!!! :} * - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. - - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. -
Re: LPRng: Problem with 'file'
I don't like to do this mainly because ifhp does a good job of communicating with the printers and I like to use it for that purpose -- unless I can just set it as an of and that's it... Regardless, I like to have that layer of protection against badly formed jobs (seems to be working a little TOO well ;)). _ _ _ _ ___ _ _ _ |Y#| | | |\/| | \ |\ | | | Ryan Novosielski - Jr. UNIX Systems Admin |$| |__| | | |__/ | \| _| | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 973/972.0922 (2-0922) \__/ Univ. of Med. and Dent. | IST/ACS - NJMS Medical Science Bldg - C630 On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Villy Kruse wrote: On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Ryan Novosielski wrote: Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 10:23:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Ryan Novosielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: LPRng: Problem with 'file' Treating it as data is fine with me -- however, when file can't figure out what it is, there is a problem, as I do check for file type with ifhp and it will refuse unrecognized file types. In my setup I would route anything comming from a MS-Win system to a printer queue which have no filter what so ever, and leave the filtering entries to be used by unix users. As you can see from the files below, vi appears to have halved the contents of the file -- I'm assuming that the file after vi is done is no longer usable. Perhaps this question is now becoming one that is more for the file mailing list, but I had said that I would post the files in question regardless. The curious thing is that file, AFAIK, looks at the beginning of a file. vi would not likely be changing the beginning of the first line of the file that signals PCL data, so it doesn't make sense that it would have an effect on that (not to me, anyway). Also interesting is that this printer doesn't seem to use PJL prior to its PCL stream, which is odd from my experience. Here is the URL: http://www.umdnj.edu/~novosirj/PCL-data-problem Hexadecimal dump of the two files. The dump is incomplete, just enough to get the point. The file /var/tmp/xxx/Job927-df-data.prn had 1200 bytes of leading binary zeroes. Also note the data at 00500: in the data.prn file and compare with the data at position 0050: in the PCL.prn file. :: /var/tmp/xxx/Job927-df-PCL.prn.hex :: : 1b 25 2d 31 32 33 34 35 58 40 50 4a 4c 20 4a 4f [EMAIL PROTECTED] JO 0010: 42 20 4e 41 4d 45 3d 22 33 65 66 38 36 39 33 30 B NAME=3ef86930 0020: 31 34 38 31 6e 6f 76 6f 73 69 72 6a 22 0a 40 50 1481novosirj[EMAIL PROTECTED] 0030: 4a 4c 20 45 4e 54 45 52 20 4c 41 4e 47 55 41 47 JL ENTER LANGUAG 0040: 45 3d 50 43 4c 33 47 55 49 0a 1b 2a 6f 35 57 04 E=PCL3GUI..*o5W. 0050: 09 1b 2a 6f 35 57 04 0d 0d 84 1b 2a 6f 35 57 0a ..*o5W.*o5W. 0060: 05 1b 26 6c 37 48 1b 26 6c 30 4d 1b 2a 6f 37 57 ..l7H.l0M.*o7W 0070: 08 09 07 01 01 1b 26 6c 32 41 1b 26 6c 2d 32 48 ..l2A.l-2H 0080: 1b 2a 6f 35 57 0a 01 1b 2a 6f 35 57 07 08 02 1b .*o5W...*o5W 0090: 2a 6f 30 4d 1b 26 75 33 30 30 44 1b 2a 70 30 58 *o0M.u300D.*p0X 00a0: 1b 2a 70 33 35 59 1b 2a 67 32 36 57 02 04 01 2c .*p35Y.*g26W..., :: /var/tmp/xxx/Job927-df-data.prn.hex :: Same 04b0: 1b 25 2d 31 32 33 34 35 58 40 50 4a 4c 20 4a 4f [EMAIL PROTECTED] JO 04c0: 42 20 4e 41 4d 45 3d 22 33 65 66 38 36 39 33 30 B NAME=3ef86930 04d0: 31 34 38 31 6e 6f 76 6f 73 69 72 6a 22 0a 40 50 1481novosirj[EMAIL PROTECTED] 04e0: 4a 4c 20 45 4e 54 45 52 20 4c 41 4e 47 55 41 47 JL ENTER LANGUAG 04f0: 45 3d 50 43 4c 33 47 55 49 0a 1b 2a 6f 35 57 04 E=PCL3GUI..*o5W. 0500: 09 00 00 00 1b 2a 6f 35 57 04 0d 00 0d 84 1b 2a .*o5W..* 0510: 6f 35 57 0a 05 00 00 00 1b 26 6c 37 48 1b 26 6c o5W..l7H.l 0520: 30 4d 1b 2a 6f 37 57 08 09 00 00 07 01 01 1b 26 0M.*o7W 0530: 6c 32 41 1b 26 6c 2d 32 48 1b 2a 6f 35 57 0a 01 l2A.l-2H.*o5W.. 0540: 00 00 00 1b 2a 6f 35 57 07 08 00 00 02 1b 2a 6f *o5W..*o 0550: 30 4d 1b 26 75 33 30 30 44 1b 2a 70 30 58 1b 2a 0M.u300D.*p0X.* 0560: 70 33 35 59 1b 2a 67 32 36 57 02 04 01 2c 01 2c p35Y.*g26W...,., -- Villy - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have
Re: LPRng: Problem with 'file'
Argh! I had never seen this with the software I was using and since vi didn't show the NULL's, I just assumed that the beginning was fine... I got the same thing printed to file or looking at the df from the spool directory. Looks like the driver is hosed. I am using the Win2k v3.1 PCL3 driver (it calls the LANGUAGE PCL3GUI for some reason). The PS driver doesn't do that, but then again, PS sucks on this printer which is the whole reason I am doing this anyway! If you wouldn't mind, sure. I don't know whether it's the driver for this OS in particular, but the PS drivers even for 2k don't do it. Another item of note is that I have these drivers installed on a Samba server in the PRINT$ share, but I can't see what that has to do with anything either. _ _ _ _ ___ _ _ _ |Y#| | | |\/| | \ |\ | | | Ryan Novosielski - Jr. UNIX Systems Admin |$| |__| | | |__/ | \| _| | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 973/972.0922 (2-0922) \__/ Univ. of Med. and Dent. | IST/ACS - NJMS Medical Science Bldg - C630 On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Sam Lown wrote: On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 21:58, Matt Forrest wrote: The 1st 1200 bytes of the file are all zero (AKA 0x00) immediately after that you have the normal ESC code for some PJL stuff I too confirmed this, there is something seriously wrong with one of your drivers. How did you generate this file? is it directly from windows i.e. Print to file, or is it taken from a stopped queue on the server? I am not surprised that 'file' is having problems! We too use the same printer here, if you like I can try and find out the version of our windows drivers (I'm a unix person ;-) as I know for a fact that we don't get that 'crappy' stuff at the beginning of printouts. cheers, sam Try stripping off just those bytes or get http://www.scs.ryerson.ca/mforrest/printing/Job927-df-mf.prn In the -PCL- you don't have the ESC code to end the job.. shouldn't be a problem if the printer is set to auto personality, but I've always seen it there. If you just strip the zeros from the start of the file I'm guessing it will work fine. I haven't tried printing it 'cause I'm lazy right now and don't want to have to walk to the printer :) mATT * A neurotic worries about going crazy, but never will A psychotic IS crazy, but doesn't worry about it! ... Don't worry, be happy!!! :} * - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. - -- CERN, Geneva IT - Product Support - Unix Infrastructure E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. - - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT
Re: LPRng: Problem with 'file'
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Ryan Novosielski wrote: Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 18:09:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Ryan Novosielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: LPRng: Problem with 'file' There is a LOT different. The most noticeable seems to be the outputs of cmp -l in the first column are about 2-3 times larger than the second one. I'm guessing maybe vi chopped some long lines, if that's what those numbers are? Why would ifhp care? In any case, I'm going to produce a set of small df's to post and see what the consensus is... this is driving me /nuts/. Standard unix vi chops all binary zeroes, and yes, you do get problems with long lines as well. In my experience print data from MS-Windows should be treated as binary data, and any modifications inclusing stripping or inserting CR characters tend to produce garbage. Postscript data, however, can normaly be treated as text files without too much problems. Villy - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. -
Re: LPRng: Problem with 'file'
Ryan Novosielski wrote: Treating it as data is fine with me -- however, when file can't figure out what it is, there is a problem, as I do check for file type with ifhp and it will refuse unrecognized file types. As you can see from the files below, vi appears to have halved the contents of the file -- I'm assuming that the file after vi is done is no longer usable. Perhaps this question is now becoming one that is more for the file mailing list, but I had said that I would post the files in question regardless. The curious thing is that file, AFAIK, looks at the beginning of a file. vi would not likely be changing the beginning of the first line of the file that signals PCL data, so it doesn't make sense that it would have an effect on that (not to me, anyway). Also interesting is that this printer doesn't seem to use PJL prior to its PCL stream, which is odd from my experience. Here is the URL: http://www.umdnj.edu/~novosirj/PCL-data-problem I get access-denied on Job927-df-data.prn, Ryan. (Not that I really expect to get anywhere with this, mind you.) (Hmm. Have you updated to a recent rev of file, BTW?) -- - Dave Lovelace [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. -
Re: LPRng: Problem with 'file'
Yes, I have since fixed the permissions -- sorry about that. I am running file 3.4.1, just because I am leery of switching to a completely different rev without knowing the affect it will have on LPRng. AFAIK, 3.4.1 is the most recent 3.x release. _ _ _ _ ___ _ _ _ |Y#| | | |\/| | \ |\ | | | Ryan Novosielski - Jr. UNIX Systems Admin |$| |__| | | |__/ | \| _| | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 973/972.0922 (2-0922) \__/ Univ. of Med. and Dent. | IST/ACS - NJMS Medical Science Bldg - C630 On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Dave Lovelace wrote: Ryan Novosielski wrote: Treating it as data is fine with me -- however, when file can't figure out what it is, there is a problem, as I do check for file type with ifhp and it will refuse unrecognized file types. As you can see from the files below, vi appears to have halved the contents of the file -- I'm assuming that the file after vi is done is no longer usable. Perhaps this question is now becoming one that is more for the file mailing list, but I had said that I would post the files in question regardless. The curious thing is that file, AFAIK, looks at the beginning of a file. vi would not likely be changing the beginning of the first line of the file that signals PCL data, so it doesn't make sense that it would have an effect on that (not to me, anyway). Also interesting is that this printer doesn't seem to use PJL prior to its PCL stream, which is odd from my experience. Here is the URL: http://www.umdnj.edu/~novosirj/PCL-data-problem I get access-denied on Job927-df-data.prn, Ryan. (Not that I really expect to get anywhere with this, mind you.) (Hmm. Have you updated to a recent rev of file, BTW?) -- - Dave Lovelace [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. - - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. -
Re: LPRng: Problem with 'file'
Ryan Novosielski wrote: Yes, I have since fixed the permissions -- sorry about that. I am running file 3.4.1, just because I am leery of switching to a completely different rev without knowing the affect it will have on LPRng. AFAIK, 3.4.1 is the most recent 3.x release. Ryan, This is definitely interesting. On our (now old creaky) SYSV Unix box, running the file that came with it, Here's what I see for your two files: Job927-df-PCL.prn: data Job927-df-data.prn: English text (Can't make it tell me what the rev on file is.) On our RH Linux (old - RH 6.2) system, which is running file 3.28, I get: Job927-df-PCL.prn: HP Printer Job Language data Job927-df-data.prn: data The HP Printer Job Language data is what you'd want it to show, am I right? The relevant entries from the magic file are somewhere in this mess, I think: -snip-snip-snip-snip-snip-snip-snip-snip- # HP Printer Job Language 0 string [EMAIL PROTECTED] HP Printer Job Language data # HP Printer Job Language # The header found on Win95 HP plot files is the Silliest Thing possible # (TM) # Every driver puts the language at some random position, with random case # (LANGUAGE and Language) # For example the LaserJet 5L driver puts the PJL ENTER LANGUAGE in line 10 # From: Uwe Bonnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] # 0 string [EMAIL PROTECTED] HP Printer Job Language data 0 string \0 %s 0string \0 %s 0 string \0 %s 0 string \0 %s #15string \ ENTER\ LANGUAGE\ = #31string PostScript PostScript # HP Printer Control Language, Daniel Quinlan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 0 string \033E\033 HP PCL printer data 3 string \l0A - default page size 3 string \l1A - US executive page size 3 string \l2A - US letter page size 3 string \l3A - US legal page size 3 string \l26A - A4 page size 3 string \l80A - Monarch envelope size 3 string \l81A - No. 10 envelope size 3 string \l90A - Intl. DL envelope size 3 string \l91A - Intl. C5 envelope size 3 string \l100A - Intl. B5 envelope size 3 string \l-81A - No. 10 envelope size (landscape) 3 string \l-90A - Intl. DL envelope size (landscape) -snip-snip-snip-snip-snip-snip-snip-snip- I suggest that you look at your magic file. Consider patching these things in. On later revs of RedHat, we've had to run file with a special option to create a file called (IIRC) magic.mgc before any changes have any effect; I'd guess that's for a later rev of file than you're running, but I really don't know can't check right now. I'll actually *look* at your files tomorrow when I find time. -- - Dave Lovelace [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. -
Re: LPRng: Problem with 'file'
Ryan, Using file version 3.37 on Debian Linux and file version 3.39 on Solaris 9, I get the same output. Job927-df-data.prn: data Job927-df-PCL.prn: HP Printer Job Language data --- Keith Rinaldo Systems Administrator College of Engineering University of Nevada, Las Vegas - Original Message - From: Ryan Novosielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 7:23 AM Subject: Re: LPRng: Problem with 'file' Treating it as data is fine with me -- however, when file can't figure out what it is, there is a problem, as I do check for file type with ifhp and it will refuse unrecognized file types. As you can see from the files below, vi appears to have halved the contents of the file -- I'm assuming that the file after vi is done is no longer usable. Perhaps this question is now becoming one that is more for the file mailing list, but I had said that I would post the files in question regardless. The curious thing is that file, AFAIK, looks at the beginning of a file. vi would not likely be changing the beginning of the first line of the file that signals PCL data, so it doesn't make sense that it would have an effect on that (not to me, anyway). Also interesting is that this printer doesn't seem to use PJL prior to its PCL stream, which is odd from my experience. Here is the URL: http://www.umdnj.edu/~novosirj/PCL-data-problem _ _ _ _ ___ _ _ _ |Y#| | | |\/| | \ |\ | | | Ryan Novosielski - Jr. UNIX Systems Admin |$| |__| | | |__/ | \| _| | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 973/972.0922 (2-0922) \__/ Univ. of Med. and Dent. | IST/ACS - NJMS Medical Science Bldg - C630 On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Villy Kruse wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Ryan Novosielski wrote: Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 18:09:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Ryan Novosielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: LPRng: Problem with 'file' There is a LOT different. The most noticeable seems to be the outputs of cmp -l in the first column are about 2-3 times larger than the second one. I'm guessing maybe vi chopped some long lines, if that's what those numbers are? Why would ifhp care? In any case, I'm going to produce a set of small df's to post and see what the consensus is... this is driving me /nuts/. Standard unix vi chops all binary zeroes, and yes, you do get problems with long lines as well. In my experience print data from MS-Windows should be treated as binary data, and any modifications inclusing stripping or inserting CR characters tend to produce garbage. Postscript data, however, can normaly be treated as text files without too much problems. Villy - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. - - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. - - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you
Re: LPRng: Problem with 'file'
The 1st 1200 bytes of the file are all zero (AKA 0x00) immediately after that you have the normal ESC code for some PJL stuff Try stripping off just those bytes or get http://www.scs.ryerson.ca/mforrest/printing/Job927-df-mf.prn In the -PCL- you don't have the ESC code to end the job.. shouldn't be a problem if the printer is set to auto personality, but I've always seen it there. If you just strip the zeros from the start of the file I'm guessing it will work fine. I haven't tried printing it 'cause I'm lazy right now and don't want to have to walk to the printer :) mATT * A neurotic worries about going crazy, but never will A psychotic IS crazy, but doesn't worry about it! ... Don't worry, be happy!!! :} * - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. -
Re: LPRng: Problem with 'file'
So what is the appropriate way to repair such a file before it gets to the printer, then? _ _ _ _ ___ _ _ _ |Y#| | | |\/| | \ |\ | | | Ryan Novosielski - Jr. UNIX Systems Admin |$| |__| | | |__/ | \| _| | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 973/972.0922 (2-0922) \__/ Univ. of Med. and Dent. | IST/ACS - NJMS Medical Science Bldg - C630 On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Henrik Edlund wrote: On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Ryan Novosielski wrote: RN I am printing via the HP 2500cm driver for Win2k, which sends some PJL and RN says @PJL ENTER LANGUAGE=PCL3GUI. That's just fine. The problem is that RN 'file' claims that the file is of type 'data'. I vi'd the file, did RN nothing to it, saved it, and ran file again -- now it recognizes it as a RN HP Printer Job Language. The file appears to have the proper PJL header, RN with the ^[%-12345X -- forgive me if I'm getting that wrong off the top of RN my head. Unfortunately, though, as printed, file calls it data and runs RN off a page that says No conversion available for type 'data'. RN RN Any clues here? Could it be the file contain CR (carriage return)? Windows machines puts both NL and CR and end of lines. How it becomes data I don't know, but as it was okay after you saved it (on UNIX I presume) it sounds familiar. - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. - - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. -
Re: LPRng: Problem with 'file'
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 10:58:39AM -0400, Ryan Novosielski wrote: So what is the appropriate way to repair such a file before it gets to the printer, then? if indeed it is the extra cr chars, you could cat file | tr -d \r | ifhp or something like that. tr is fast... _ _ _ _ ___ _ _ _ |Y#| | | |\/| | \ |\ | | | Ryan Novosielski - Jr. UNIX Systems Admin |$| |__| | | |__/ | \| _| | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 973/972.0922 (2-0922) \__/ Univ. of Med. and Dent. | IST/ACS - NJMS Medical Science Bldg - C630 On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Henrik Edlund wrote: On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Ryan Novosielski wrote: RN I am printing via the HP 2500cm driver for Win2k, which sends some PJL and RN says @PJL ENTER LANGUAGE=PCL3GUI. That's just fine. The problem is that RN 'file' claims that the file is of type 'data'. I vi'd the file, did RN nothing to it, saved it, and ran file again -- now it recognizes it as a RN HP Printer Job Language. The file appears to have the proper PJL header, RN with the ^[%-12345X -- forgive me if I'm getting that wrong off the top of RN my head. Unfortunately, though, as printed, file calls it data and runs RN off a page that says No conversion available for type 'data'. RN RN Any clues here? Could it be the file contain CR (carriage return)? Windows machines puts both NL and CR and end of lines. How it becomes data I don't know, but as it was okay after you saved it (on UNIX I presume) it sounds familiar. - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. - - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. - -- David Bear phone: 480-965-8257 fax:480-965-9189 College of Public Programs/ASU Wilson Hall 232 Tempe, AZ 85287-0803 Beware the IP portfolio, everyone will be suspect of trespassing - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. -
Re: LPRng: Problem with 'file'
Nope -- the file behaves exactly the same after the tr (I redirected it to another file), and still will work only after being vi'd (or probably otherwise massaged, but this is what I know works). _ _ _ _ ___ _ _ _ |Y#| | | |\/| | \ |\ | | | Ryan Novosielski - Jr. UNIX Systems Admin |$| |__| | | |__/ | \| _| | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 973/972.0922 (2-0922) \__/ Univ. of Med. and Dent. | IST/ACS - NJMS Medical Science Bldg - C630 On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, David Bear wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 10:58:39AM -0400, Ryan Novosielski wrote: So what is the appropriate way to repair such a file before it gets to the printer, then? if indeed it is the extra cr chars, you could cat file | tr -d \r | ifhp or something like that. tr is fast... _ _ _ _ ___ _ _ _ |Y#| | | |\/| | \ |\ | | | Ryan Novosielski - Jr. UNIX Systems Admin |$| |__| | | |__/ | \| _| | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 973/972.0922 (2-0922) \__/ Univ. of Med. and Dent. | IST/ACS - NJMS Medical Science Bldg - C630 On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Henrik Edlund wrote: On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Ryan Novosielski wrote: RN I am printing via the HP 2500cm driver for Win2k, which sends some PJL and RN says @PJL ENTER LANGUAGE=PCL3GUI. That's just fine. The problem is that RN 'file' claims that the file is of type 'data'. I vi'd the file, did RN nothing to it, saved it, and ran file again -- now it recognizes it as a RN HP Printer Job Language. The file appears to have the proper PJL header, RN with the ^[%-12345X -- forgive me if I'm getting that wrong off the top of RN my head. Unfortunately, though, as printed, file calls it data and runs RN off a page that says No conversion available for type 'data'. RN RN Any clues here? Could it be the file contain CR (carriage return)? Windows machines puts both NL and CR and end of lines. How it becomes data I don't know, but as it was okay after you saved it (on UNIX I presume) it sounds familiar. - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. - - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. - -- David Bear phone:480-965-8257 fax: 480-965-9189 College of Public Programs/ASU Wilson Hall 232 Tempe, AZ 85287-0803 Beware the IP portfolio, everyone will be suspect of trespassing - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. - - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the
Re: LPRng: Problem with 'file'
If you're just looking to strip the extra ^M that Windows sticks into the files, then
change the tr command to tr -d '\015'
\015 is the escape code for ^M.
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Subject: Re: LPRng: Problem with 'file'
Nope -- the file behaves exactly the same after the tr (I redirected it to
another file), and still will work only after being vi'd (or probably
otherwise massaged, but this is what I know works).
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On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, David Bear wrote:
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 10:58:39AM -0400, Ryan Novosielski wrote:
So what is the appropriate way to repair such a file before it gets to the
printer, then?
if indeed it is the extra cr chars, you could
cat file | tr -d \r | ifhp
or something like that. tr is fast...
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On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Henrik Edlund wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Ryan Novosielski wrote:
RN I am printing via the HP 2500cm driver for Win2k, which sends some PJL and
RN says @PJL ENTER LANGUAGE=PCL3GUI. That's just fine. The problem is that
RN 'file' claims that the file is of type 'data'. I vi'd the file, did
RN nothing to it, saved it, and ran file again -- now it recognizes it as a
RN HP Printer Job Language. The file appears to have the proper PJL header,
RN with the ^[%-12345X -- forgive me if I'm getting that wrong off the top of
RN my head. Unfortunately, though, as printed, file calls it data and runs
RN off a page that says No conversion available for type 'data'.
RN
RN Any clues here?
Could it be the file contain CR (carriage return)? Windows machines puts
both NL and CR and end of lines. How it becomes data I don't know, but
as it was okay after you saved it (on UNIX I presume) it sounds familiar.
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There is a LOT different. The most noticeable seems to be the outputs of cmp -l in the first column are about 2-3 times larger than the second one. I'm guessing maybe vi chopped some long lines, if that's what those numbers are? Why would ifhp care? In any case, I'm going to produce a set of small df's to post and see what the consensus is... this is driving me /nuts/. _ _ _ _ ___ _ _ _ |Y#| | | |\/| | \ |\ | | | Ryan Novosielski - Jr. UNIX Systems Admin |$| |__| | | |__/ | \| _| | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 973/972.0922 (2-0922) \__/ Univ. of Med. and Dent. | IST/ACS - NJMS Medical Science Bldg - C630 On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Dave Lovelace wrote: Ryan Novosielski wrote: Nope -- the file behaves exactly the same after the tr (I redirected it to another file), and still will work only after being vi'd (or probably otherwise massaged, but this is what I know works). I was somewhat doubtful about CRs being the problem; in my experience, vi leaves them alone. (The vim that's on the RedHat Linux I use most now invisibly assumes that you really mean to edit a DOS/Win file, strips them off when you start editing, and adds them back when you save. vi on the Unix versions I'm familiar with treats them as characters, displayed as ^M.) A suggestion for determining what *is* changing: - make a backup copy of your file - load save with vi as you've been doing - Look at the files. Are they still the same size? Try cmp -l (that's lowercase L to look for differences. Also, these are supposed to be text files, IIRC, aren't they? Try running the before after versions through cat -vt and running diff on the results. Actually, I just had a thought. Probably not the cause of your problem, but one thing I *know* vi is apt to do to a file. If your file ends without a linefeed, vi will add one. (Again, I'm assuming I'm remembering correctly that this is supposed to be text for this idea to make any sense at all.) In that case, echo yourfile would work as well as running through vi. -- - Dave Lovelace [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. - - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. -
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Nope, it's definitely not ^M. _ _ _ _ ___ _ _ _ |Y#| | | |\/| | \ |\ | | | Ryan Novosielski - Jr. UNIX Systems Admin |$| |__| | | |__/ | \| _| | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 973/972.0922 (2-0922) \__/ Univ. of Med. and Dent. | IST/ACS - NJMS Medical Science Bldg - C630 On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Keith Rinaldo wrote: If you're just looking to strip the extra ^M that Windows sticks into the files, then change the tr command to tr -d '\015' \015 is the escape code for ^M. --- Keith Rinaldo Systems Administrator College of Engineering University of Nevada, Las Vegas - Original Message - From: Ryan Novosielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 10:10 AM Subject: Re: LPRng: Problem with 'file' Nope -- the file behaves exactly the same after the tr (I redirected it to another file), and still will work only after being vi'd (or probably otherwise massaged, but this is what I know works). _ _ _ _ ___ _ _ _ |Y#| | | |\/| | \ |\ | | | Ryan Novosielski - Jr. UNIX Systems Admin |$| |__| | | |__/ | \| _| | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 973/972.0922 (2-0922) \__/ Univ. of Med. and Dent. | IST/ACS - NJMS Medical Science Bldg - C630 On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, David Bear wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 10:58:39AM -0400, Ryan Novosielski wrote: So what is the appropriate way to repair such a file before it gets to the printer, then? if indeed it is the extra cr chars, you could cat file | tr -d \r | ifhp or something like that. tr is fast... _ _ _ _ ___ _ _ _ |Y#| | | |\/| | \ |\ | | | Ryan Novosielski - Jr. UNIX Systems Admin |$| |__| | | |__/ | \| _| | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 973/972.0922 (2-0922) \__/ Univ. of Med. and Dent. | IST/ACS - NJMS Medical Science Bldg - C630 On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Henrik Edlund wrote: On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Ryan Novosielski wrote: RN I am printing via the HP 2500cm driver for Win2k, which sends some PJL and RN says @PJL ENTER LANGUAGE=PCL3GUI. That's just fine. The problem is that RN 'file' claims that the file is of type 'data'. I vi'd the file, did RN nothing to it, saved it, and ran file again -- now it recognizes it as a RN HP Printer Job Language. The file appears to have the proper PJL header, RN with the ^[%-12345X -- forgive me if I'm getting that wrong off the top of RN my head. Unfortunately, though, as printed, file calls it data and runs RN off a page that says No conversion available for type 'data'. RN RN Any clues here? Could it be the file contain CR (carriage return)? Windows machines puts both NL and CR and end of lines. How it becomes data I don't know, but as it was okay after you saved it (on UNIX I presume) it sounds familiar. - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. - - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. - -- David Bear phone: 480-965-8257 fax: 480-965-9189 College of Public Programs/ASU Wilson Hall 232 Tempe, AZ 85287-0803 Beware the IP portfolio, everyone will be suspect of trespassing - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from
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I am printing via the HP 2500cm driver for Win2k, which sends some PJL and says @PJL ENTER LANGUAGE=PCL3GUI. That's just fine. The problem is that 'file' claims that the file is of type 'data'. I vi'd the file, did nothing to it, saved it, and ran file again -- now it recognizes it as a HP Printer Job Language. The file appears to have the proper PJL header, with the ^[%-12345X -- forgive me if I'm getting that wrong off the top of my head. Unfortunately, though, as printed, file calls it data and runs off a page that says No conversion available for type 'data'. Any clues here? _ _ _ _ ___ _ _ _ |Y#| | | |\/| | \ |\ | | | Ryan Novosielski - Jr. UNIX Systems Admin |$| |__| | | |__/ | \| _| | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 973/972.0922 (2-0922) \__/ Univ. of Med. and Dent. | IST/ACS - NJMS Medical Science Bldg - C630 - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. -
Re: LPRng: Problem with 'file'
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Ryan Novosielski wrote: RN I am printing via the HP 2500cm driver for Win2k, which sends some PJL and RN says @PJL ENTER LANGUAGE=PCL3GUI. That's just fine. The problem is that RN 'file' claims that the file is of type 'data'. I vi'd the file, did RN nothing to it, saved it, and ran file again -- now it recognizes it as a RN HP Printer Job Language. The file appears to have the proper PJL header, RN with the ^[%-12345X -- forgive me if I'm getting that wrong off the top of RN my head. Unfortunately, though, as printed, file calls it data and runs RN off a page that says No conversion available for type 'data'. RN RN Any clues here? Could it be the file contain CR (carriage return)? Windows machines puts both NL and CR and end of lines. How it becomes data I don't know, but as it was okay after you saved it (on UNIX I presume) it sounds familiar. - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. -
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At work I use gVim on Windows. Under some circumstances, it auto converts Unix line endings to windows when saving a file, I think based on the file name ending. Sounds like this happened here... On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Henrik Edlund wrote: On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Ryan Novosielski wrote: RN I am printing via the HP 2500cm driver for Win2k, which sends some PJL and RN says @PJL ENTER LANGUAGE=PCL3GUI. That's just fine. The problem is that RN 'file' claims that the file is of type 'data'. I vi'd the file, did RN nothing to it, saved it, and ran file again -- now it recognizes it as a RN HP Printer Job Language. The file appears to have the proper PJL header, RN with the ^[%-12345X -- forgive me if I'm getting that wrong off the top of RN my head. Unfortunately, though, as printed, file calls it data and runs RN off a page that says No conversion available for type 'data'. RN RN Any clues here? Could it be the file contain CR (carriage return)? Windows machines puts both NL and CR and end of lines. How it becomes data I don't know, but as it was okay after you saved it (on UNIX I presume) it sounds familiar. - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. - - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. -
