Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)

2009-06-30 Thread Andrew Woodhead
/me Grumbles at openoffice and firefox but if its agreed then its agreed Will be hitting some CD making if I get chance. Got a big month ahead but will no doubt try and get something constructive done Peace On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 5:03 AM, Luther Goh Lu Feng wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Good to

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)

2009-06-30 Thread Luther Goh Lu Feng
Just in case, there was any miscommunication, the list just contain possible candidates for the application category. For instance, in the web browser category, we have midori, epiphany, firefox, kazhakase and some others. But we will only choose one, and based on the meetings, we have chosen Fi

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)

2009-06-30 Thread Ed Hewitt
I too have the same opinion and in the same situation as Glen. I have missed out on the meetings, since only being involved in Lubuntu since yesterday. I have looked at the applications list and there is too many, Lubuntu could end up too heavy. This is one of the reasons I sent my first email off

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)

2009-06-30 Thread Glen Bizeau
Wow, I just went through the list if apps, Thats a lot of stuff... Personally, I think it should be lighter than this, but I guess thats what I get for missing the IRC meeting :) Will we have a chance to vote on these things? or do the IRC meetings denote final say? Glen On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)

2009-06-30 Thread Luther Goh Lu Feng
Hi everyone, Good to see the sudden spike in mailing list activity. I definitely need time to follow the threads. For those unaware, we have had 3 IRC meetings to discuss the goals and applications of Lubuntu. The logs are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/IRC%20Meetings. The objective of the

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)

2009-06-30 Thread Ed Hewitt
I would say LXDE is lighter than Xfce, the LXDE developers seem to think so. I think 64mb Minimum is enough. 2009/6/30 Andrew Woodhead > http://wiki.xfce.org/minimum_requirements > > May help to guide > > I'd say 300Mhz CPU + 192Mb RAM > > > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 3:50 PM, jon york wrote: >

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)

2009-06-30 Thread Andrew Woodhead
http://wiki.xfce.org/minimum_requirements May help to guide I'd say 300Mhz CPU + 192Mb RAM On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 3:50 PM, jon york wrote: > Good point ed, > > we are forgetting our requirements, and getting head of ourselves. > > so now that we are mostly agreed on being small and lightwe

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] going small

2009-06-30 Thread AdamBOT
+1 On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 5:53 AM, Glen Bizeau wrote: > I agree, It's a simple matter to install software VIA Snyaptic > > On another note, I think Synaptic should appear is the launcher next > to the main menu, I always find myself placing it there, I hate going > to "find" it in the admin men

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)

2009-06-30 Thread Ed Hewitt
Well, its always difficult to say the system requirements. Xubuntu is suggesting that they require 192mb RAM for it to be usable. But Xubuntu is heavy, lubuntu should be far less. On LXDE website they say this: - The hardware requirements of LXDE are similiar to Windows 98 (Maybe a little b

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)

2009-06-30 Thread jon york
Good point ed, we are forgetting our requirements, and getting head of ourselves. so now that we are mostly agreed on being small and lightweight, what will be the minimum and recommended specs? Jon York Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:07:11 +0100 From: edwardahew...@googlemail.com To: lubuntu-d

[Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)

2009-06-30 Thread Ed Hewitt
I believe its a bad idea having different versions of Lubuntu, having different meta packages of Lubuntu is not what lubutnu needs. Its all about lightweight distro. The Ubuntu guidelines requires the distro to have one build, lubuntu-desktop. All we need to do is make sure that this single meta p

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)

2009-06-30 Thread John Thng
We should think from the user perspective, rather than the geek perspective. Barebone is good for geeks and those people who want to customise distro and put on computers, Remix is important as it appeal to normal users who will want out of the box experience. The success rate for remix will appeal

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)

2009-06-30 Thread jon york
This is where I belive i might be of most help, as i have been selling pc's with linux on it for a few years now, to complete newbies in linux, in fact they have never heard of linux, I have always created my own remix of ubuntu to have the apps they require or need, and in fact, only 5 people

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)

2009-06-30 Thread John Thng
hi all, I think lubuntu should not meant for geeks only. It should appeal to the mass just like ubuntu is for. As for applications, we should not think too much about the disk space, as disk space is not very critical less than cpu and ram nowadays, but it's good to keep it below 2 GB after instal

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)

2009-06-30 Thread jon york
i agree with c david rigby, in that maybe we can have a barebone system, and instead of having installers in the install process, maybe have some meta packages in the repo's where a user can download the 'full multimedia desktop' or the 'professional office tools' Jon York Date: Tue, 30 Ju

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)

2009-06-30 Thread Andrew Woodhead
I have a small script the guts the system of all the fluff I do not need. These days I use the minimal ISO and install from the repos what I need. So much better. My root partitions is currently 2Gb with the desktop + web browse + vlc + transmission + pidgin + some plugins. Bliss [?] On Tue, Jun 3

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)

2009-06-30 Thread Glen Bizeau
I agree, Keep it small and lean, and apt-get anything you need. The one question I think needs to be answered is " Are we making a distro for newbies?" If we are then you will need a bunch of standard default apps... If not, which I think in my personal experience with Linux and LXDE, this will

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] going small

2009-06-30 Thread Glen Bizeau
I agree, It's a simple matter to install software VIA Snyaptic On another note, I think Synaptic should appear is the launcher next to the main menu, I always find myself placing it there, I hate going to "find" it in the admin menu... Glen On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:30 PM, David Sugar wrote: > A

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)

2009-06-30 Thread Andrew Woodhead
Can you clarify "create a base system" please. Do you want an Installable ISO or do you just want a package list that would make it up? Thanks -Andy On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 4:26 AM, jon york wrote: > Hi guys, why dont we move this to the forum where it can be easier to > document and organi