Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] GSOC - Lubuntu style?

[Mario Behling]

Hi David,

thanks for your reminder. lubuntu applied for GSOC 2011, but did not
get in. Neither Ubuntu nor LXDE were GSOC projects 2011 by the way. I
guess you are referring to 2010.

We will try to get in 2012.

All the best,

Mario


On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 6:00 AM, David Reimer  wrote:
> I know I'm just a newcomer and all, but thought I'd ask since for some
> reason it floated into what passes for my brain:
>
> With Lubuntu's new profile and popularity -- what are the chances of
> making more use of the Google Summer of Code project to make some
> strategic advances?
>
> http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2011
>
> I note that in the 2011 GSOC there were these sorts of numbers:
>
> No. of students - Sponsor project
> 31 - KDE
> 17 - Gnome
> 8 - Ubuntu
> 1 - LXDE
>
> I expect this is already on someone's radar, but with February as the
> date things get going, I expect it could probably use some attention
> in January.
>
> And apologies if this note is overly cheeky or presumptuous!
>
> David [djreimer | dajare]
> --
> David Reimer | Edinburgh, UK
> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/djreimer | https://launchpad.net/~djreimer
>

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: [lubuntu newsletter] lubuntu 10.10 released

[Mario Behling]

Seems like there was a cron job blocked or so, which got executed
after I updated the website. That's bad. Well, I guess we will survive
this error ;-{

Mario

On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 2:21 AM, Yorvyk  wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 15:16:11 -0300
> Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset  wrote:
>
>> El 30/11/11 13:15, 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) escribió:
>> > WUT?
>> Exactly my reaction!!
>> >
> LOL WTF :D
>
> By next May we should be on 11.04!
>
> --
> Yorvyk
>

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Website lubuntu.net design

[Mario Behling]

Just corrected it.

Thanks.

Mario

2011/11/30 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) 

> Sorry, my fault. I'll correct this today.
>
>
>
>   
>
>
>
> 2011/11/29 Gabriel Salles 
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just saw the lubuntu.net site and is written there   "Please refer
>> to the Lubuntu 11.11 Release Notes for more info."
>>
>> Att,
>>
>> Gabriel Salles
>>
>>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Launchpad: Reminder about lubuntu-desktop's PPAs

[Mario Behling]

Hi,

yes agree. Let me know what I can do, if you need help with the set up.

Thanks,

Mario


On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:
> Thanks Mario.
>
> Currently, the situation is not very nice, the mailing list is not open 
> anymore, and the PPA is too common. We have to change the mailing or the PPA 
> location, or both.
>
> About the mailing list, the best solution is probably to swith to one (or 1 
> for user help, and 1 for devel ?) on https://lists.ubuntu.com/, since it's a 
> more standart mailing list (no need to be member of the team).
>
> The PPA will probably diseapears with the time, we need more specialized 
> PPAs, instead of one with many varous stuff in it.
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
>
> On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:42:52 +0700
> Mario Behling  wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Launchpads/Canonical policies demand that the lubuntu team becomes
>> moderated. More info below. I had to change the group to moderated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mario
>>
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Steve Kowalik 
>> Date: Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 7:25 AM
>> Subject: Launchpad: Reminder about lubuntu-desktop's PPAs
>>
>>
>> Last week we wrote to tell you that on 2011-11-23 we will be changing the
>> membership policy of your Launchpad team lubuntu-desktop to moderated.
>> We're doing this to protect the people who use that team's Personal Package
>> Archive (PPA).
>>
>> Right now, "lubuntu-desktop" has an open membership policy, meaning anyone
>> can join the team and upload potentially malicious packages to the PPA.
>>
>> We strongly recommend that you change your team's membership policy now and
>> audit the team's membership to make sure that you trust each member.
>>
>> You can change the team's membership policy here:
>>
>>  https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop/+edit
>>
>> Otherwise, you can delete the team's PPA and retain the open membership
>> policy.
>>
>> Before you can create a new team PPA, a team's membership policy must be
>> either moderated or restricted. Your team was created before we improved
>> the security around team PPAs.
>>
>> These changes won't have any affect on the team's current members. However
>> it does mean that you'll have to approve new team members.
>>
>> There's more about Launchpad's team membership policies here:
>>
>>  https://help.launchpad.net/Teams/CreatingAndRunning
>>
>> Email feedb...@launchpad.net if you have any questions.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Steve Kowalik
>> On behalf of the Launchpad team
>>

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] logo

[Mario Behling]

HI Rafael,

cool. Do you have a draft of the mockup?

The current site is based on the Ubuntu Drupal theme. It seems this project
is not so active anymore and there are better theme options.

Currently, we have a few people who have admin access and can change
things. It seems though that the theme has several bugs and every time
someone changes something there are broken links or images do not work. It
is a quite boring task to fix that again and again.

So, I want to throw the theme "over board" and implement a completely new
theme: light, fast and clearly integrated. Looking forward to receive your
ideas for the mockup.

- Mario


2011/11/18 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) 

> **
> That's right, this is the right place for discussions about the distro.
> And I dont want anybody be angry of my words (in fact, it was a bit a joke
> for Mario). But I'm still thinking that we must be stronger and graphic
> design or advertising are powerful tools for that purpose. And, I'd like to
> use this mailing thread to anounce a few things I've got in mind, and I
> need your opinion.
>
> - a design / graphics / publishing line cheat is under development (like
> Kubuntu or Ubuntu's) for those things like signatures, wallpapers,
> stickers, and other things that doesn't really fit in marketing (or maybe
> yes) and make it distributable for you all (this includes presentation
> templates, mail signatures, etc).
>
> - a lubuntu.net mockup is almost ready, but I don't really know if we can
> change that. And that's not all, the idea for this is providing a nice set
> of mirrors, or at  least, being more concrete about where and what to
> download. A lot of users were confused.
>
> That's all, for the moment. What do you think?
>
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[Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Launchpad: Reminder about lubuntu-desktop's PPAs

[Mario Behling]

Dear all,

Launchpads/Canonical policies demand that the lubuntu team becomes
moderated. More info below. I had to change the group to moderated.

Thanks,

Mario


-- Forwarded message --
From: Steve Kowalik 
Date: Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 7:25 AM
Subject: Launchpad: Reminder about lubuntu-desktop's PPAs


Last week we wrote to tell you that on 2011-11-23 we will be changing the
membership policy of your Launchpad team lubuntu-desktop to moderated.
We're doing this to protect the people who use that team's Personal Package
Archive (PPA).

Right now, "lubuntu-desktop" has an open membership policy, meaning anyone
can join the team and upload potentially malicious packages to the PPA.

We strongly recommend that you change your team's membership policy now and
audit the team's membership to make sure that you trust each member.

You can change the team's membership policy here:

 https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop/+edit

Otherwise, you can delete the team's PPA and retain the open membership
policy.

Before you can create a new team PPA, a team's membership policy must be
either moderated or restricted. Your team was created before we improved
the security around team PPAs.

These changes won't have any affect on the team's current members. However
it does mean that you'll have to approve new team members.

There's more about Launchpad's team membership policies here:

 https://help.launchpad.net/Teams/CreatingAndRunning

Email feedb...@launchpad.net if you have any questions.

Thanks,

Steve Kowalik
On behalf of the Launchpad team

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lxde-list] LXDE Forum

[Mario Behling]

Hi everyone,

I just moved lubuntu.net to Amazon cloud and it works fine. Maybe we
should schedule an online chat ti discuss, if this would be a solution
to make lxde.org faster for people. We could even just use Amazon as a
mirror. No need to give up the existing servers.

@ Andrew/Meiwei: What do you think?

- Mario


On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Benny Hult  wrote:
> Becouse the server where that service is running is located in Taiwan:
>  8  s-b2-link.telia.net (80.91.251.25) 8.471 ms  8.442 ms  8.417 ms
>  9  s-akix-i1-link.telia.net (80.91.247.111)  8.633 ms
> s-akix-i1-link.telia.net (80.91.246.251)  8.730 ms  8.593 ms
> 10  te8-3-10G.ar2.ARN3.gblx.net (64.208.110.41) 8.546 ms  8.566 ms
> te7-4-10G.ar2.ARN3.gblx.net (64.208.110.5) 8.725 ms
> 11  * 146.82.32.146 (146.82.32.146)  172.195 ms *
> 12  * * *
> 13  Internet-MOE-N-TANet.edu.tw (203.72.43.9) 315.365 ms  316.118 ms
> 315.527 ms
> 14  bb-NDHU-TWAREN.TANet.edu.tw (192.83.196.126)  304.362 ms  304.479 ms
> 305.086 ms
> 15  bc-HLC-CHT21.TANet.edu.tw (192.83.175.229)  323.861 ms  323.033 ms
> 323.782 ms
> 16  * * *
>
>
> On Sat, 2011-11-12 at 14:56 +0800, Yao Wei (魏銘廷) wrote:
>> I don't know, but the connection is smooth in Taiwan. Could Andrew explain 
>> why?
>>
>> 2011/11/11 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset :
>> > Seeing it from Chile, with a fast connection... and it's slow!
>> >

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] www.lxde.org is down!

[Mario Behling]

Works here too.

Thanks,

Mario

On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Yao Wei (魏銘廷)  wrote:
>
> I can access to the website now. Could you confirm?
>
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 6:36 AM, Ali Linx  wrote:
>>
>> Network Error (dns_server_failure)
>
> Thank you,
> --
> Yao Wei
>

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 11.10 released

[Mario Behling]

Thanks,

if anyone has time, please update the wiki area on
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu and put up the links to the torrent
etc.

Google release day too!

Mario

On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 1:08 AM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:
> Just to be complete, on this release day, I strongly encourage people to use
> torrent to download ISO.
> There is also a mirror available in France :
> http://lubuntu.lafibre.info/11.10/
>
> Good release day :)
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
>
> Le 10/13/2011 07:28 PM, Julien Lavergne a écrit :
>
> Lubuntu 11.10 is now available :
>
>  * http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/11.10/release/
>
> == What is Lubuntu ? ==
>
> Lubuntu 11.10 is a brand new flavor of Ubuntu based on the Lightweight
> X11 Desktop Environment (LXDE), as its default GUI.  The goal is to
> provide a very lightweight distribution, with all the advantages of the
> Ubuntu world (repositories, support, etc.). Lubuntu is targeted at
> "normal" PC and laptop users running on low-spec hardware. Such users
> may not know how to use command line tools, and in most cases they just
> don't have enough resources for all the bells and whistles of the
> "full-featured" mainstream distributions.
>
> With many LXDE components, Lubuntu also uses well-known applications,
> such as Chromium, Openbox, Pidgin, to name a few. The Lubuntu project
> wiki contains more information on the project and the applications used
> available.
>
> == Features ==
>
>  * Based on the lightweight LXDE desktop environment.
>  * Pcmanfm 0.9.9, a fast and lightweight files manager using gio/gvfs.
>  * Lxdm, a lightweight GTK display manager.
>  * Chromium, the open-source version of Google Chrome.
>  * ... and, of course, based on Ubuntu 11.10.
>
> See the complete list of applications on
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Applications
>
>
> == Improvements since Lubuntu 11.04 ==
>  * ISOs are now build with Ubuntu official build system.
>  * Alternate ISOs are available.
>  * Many updates from LXDE (most components had official releases).
>  * Build with recommended packages by default.
>  * Use recommends instead of depends for most of components of
> lubuntu-desktop meta-package.
>  * Register correctly LXDE as a desktop environment by xdg tools.
>  * Switch to xfce4-power-manager for power management.
>  * Add a microblog client : pidgin-microblog.
>  * New theme made by Rafael Laguna.
>
>
> == Releases notes and known issues ==
> The release notes, with a list of known problems are available on
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReleaseNotes/OneiricOcelot
>
>
> == Reporting bugs ==
> You can find information on how to report bug on this wiki page :
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReportingBugs
>
> == Thanks ==
>
> I would like to thanks all people involved in the development of Lubuntu
> during this past 6 months : LXDE developers, people helping on IRC,
> testing ISOs, reporting bugs, making documentation and artwork ...
> It was a pleasure to work with all of you.
>
> == Links ==
>
>  * Website : http://lubuntu.net/
>  * Documentation : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu
>  * LXDE website : http://lxde.org/
>  * Announcement: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Announcement/11.10

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lxde-list] Lubuntu 11.10 released

[Mario Behling]

Hi,

great work!

... and by the way the server is not down, there are just tons of
hits. I think the lubuntu.net site should be moved to a cloud service
so we can cope with the demand every time a new version gets released.

Thanks so much!

Ciao Mario


On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 12:28 AM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:
> Lubuntu 11.10 is now available :
>
>  * http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/11.10/release/
>
> == What is Lubuntu ? ==
>
> Lubuntu 11.10 is a brand new flavor of Ubuntu based on the Lightweight
> X11 Desktop Environment (LXDE), as its default GUI.  The goal is to
> provide a very lightweight distribution, with all the advantages of the
> Ubuntu world (repositories, support, etc.). Lubuntu is targeted at
> "normal" PC and laptop users running on low-spec hardware. Such users
> may not know how to use command line tools, and in most cases they just
> don't have enough resources for all the bells and whistles of the
> "full-featured" mainstream distributions.
>
> With many LXDE components, Lubuntu also uses well-known applications,
> such as Chromium, Openbox, Pidgin, to name a few. The Lubuntu project
> wiki contains more information on the project and the applications used
> available.
>
> == Features ==
>
>  * Based on the lightweight LXDE desktop environment.
>  * Pcmanfm 0.9.9, a fast and lightweight files manager using gio/gvfs.
>  * Lxdm, a lightweight GTK display manager.
>  * Chromium, the open-source version of Google Chrome.
>  * ... and, of course, based on Ubuntu 11.10.
>
> See the complete list of applications on
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Applications
>
>
> == Improvements since Lubuntu 11.04 ==
>  * ISOs are now build with Ubuntu official build system.
>  * Alternate ISOs are available.
>  * Many updates from LXDE (most components had official releases).
>  * Build with recommended packages by default.
>  * Use recommends instead of depends for most of components of
> lubuntu-desktop meta-package.
>  * Register correctly LXDE as a desktop environment by xdg tools.
>  * Switch to xfce4-power-manager for power management.
>  * Add a microblog client : pidgin-microblog.
>  * New theme made by Rafael Laguna.
>
>
> == Releases notes and known issues ==
> The release notes, with a list of known problems are available on
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReleaseNotes/OneiricOcelot
>
>
> == Reporting bugs ==
> You can find information on how to report bug on this wiki page :
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReportingBugs
>
> == Thanks ==
>
> I would like to thanks all people involved in the development of Lubuntu
> during this past 6 months : LXDE developers, people helping on IRC,
> testing ISOs, reporting bugs, making documentation and artwork ...
> It was a pleasure to work with all of you.
>
> == Links ==
>
>  * Website : http://lubuntu.net/
>  * Documentation : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu
>  * LXDE website : http://lxde.org/
>  * Announcement: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Announcement/11.10
>

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Website and Facebook Page

[Mario Behling]

Hi Ali,

I am on of the persons in charge. Access to the facebook page is open
to everyone. You can continue to post there without restrictions and
put updates on the page.

Access to the lubuntu website will be given to long term active members.

Thanks for your support of the community.

- Mario


On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Ali Linx  wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I'd like to offer my help to update both www.lubuntu.net and
> https://www.facebook.com/pages/lubuntu/105956559439428 but I have no idea
> who is in charge of both sites at the moment?
>
> I have noticed that Lubuntu Website never get updated on daily or weekly
> basis and same goes to Lubuntu Facebook Page. I have asked before about who
> is in charge of the Facebook Page but no one has replied yet. I understand
> everyone is so busy at the moment but I just thought to offer my help. That
> is all.
>
> If this request will cause confusion and delay of any on going process,
> PLEASE IGNORE IT.
>
> Thanks as always!
>
> --
> Best Regards,
>
> A.J
> amjjawad
> My Blog
> My Wiki Page
> My Launchpad
> My Ubuntu Forum Profile
>

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Facebook and LXDE Forum

[Mario Behling]

Hi everyone,

@ Phil: Thank you for directing Ali. There are different opinions
about crosspostings on lists. Personally, I prefer to stick to the
appropriate list - which is the LXDE list for Alis question.
Nevertheless, as you wrote you want it on both lists, I am following
your wish this time.

@ Ali: Thank you for supporting everyone in the community. Yes, we
would be happy to have you joining the admin team.

Firstly please join the IRC of LXDE on oftc.net #lxde. Here you find
other people to talk to about what an admin needs to do on the forum.
You can talk to 'brother', 'mwei' and 'maces' for example, who take
care of a lot of things in the community.

Secondly, as you are relatively new, I would suggest we wait for 1
week (until Sep. 18) before you become admin to give people the chance
to give opinions. If there are no objections we can add you. There are
several admin roles. The one most applicable for you would be a role
to take care of posts and user as well as spam (would be great). If
you want to become a 'super admin' taking care of technical aspects
you can contact us at a later time again.

All the best,

Mario



On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 6:10 AM, Phill Whiteside  wrote:
> Hi Ali,
> sorry for the tardy reply this time. Please use the the two 'lists' email
> addresses when replying, there are times I'm tied up and replying to the
> teams will help you better get to know them. I've added Mario on the cc list
> (even though he does get them) as he is our co-ordinator. Again, please be
> patient.
> Using the 'reply to all' on both lists ensures everyone gets information. An
> example being that there are some extremely profficient wiki people on
> Lubuntu (people I ask for help). You do not need to wait for  me to reply
> when asking questions, if the question is asked - someone will jump in and
> reply.
> Regards,
> Phill.
>
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Ali Linx  wrote:
>>
>> Hello Phill,
>>
>> I hope you are fine and doing well :)
>> I replied your email the other day but I guess you are so busy right now.
>>
>> I have few things to discuss about you. I'm waiting for your reply to my
>> previous email so that I can know what is my other next step.
>>
>> I'd like to let you know that I'm trying now to be active on LXDE Forum. I
>> have posted 20 times today so far and I just created my first guide
>> http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=31300
>>
>> Also, I've been active too on Facebook Page for Lubuntu:
>> https://www.facebook.com/pages/lubuntu/105956559439428
>>
>> I want to ask you something. Is it possible for me to be an Admin on that
>> Facebook Page and/or the Forum of LXDE?
>> I'm sure the team needs more staff when it comes to these two sites. If I
>> can't be an admin now, it's ok but I have decided to be active on both
>> pages/sites and prove myself there first.
>>
>> What do you think? is it a good step?
>>
>> --
>> Best Regards
>>
>> A. J

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Ubuntu Developer Week - Preparation

[Mario Behling]

Hi Phil,

I would agree to continue having the information on the wiki and
linking it from lubuntu.net as this is the easiest way to have
different people (whoever wants) to work together on the project
documentation.

We can work together to sync the links and documentation with the
latest versions on the wiki and help area during UDW.

What do you think?

- Mario


On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 12:01 AM, Phill Whiteside  wrote:
> Well,
> very quickly, what do all wish me to concentrate upon?
> My view is where we came on from and our rasion d'etre
> There still seems to be an issue
> between https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu#Downloading
> Lubuntu and the information on http://lubuntu.net/
> A new comer to Lubuntu cares not about which area has the up to date
> information. All that matters to them is that we do not get one set of
> information on lubuntu.net that is not in synch with the other and, vice
> versa.
> Whatever Lubuntu area is chosen for the most up to date information is THE
> area, all others feed off it.
> I know that I am awaiting for the build system to be finalised, I can and
> will happily explain that we are awaiting.
> It was nice to be asked from the Lubuntu area to make a presentation to
> everyone. We have enough time (well, about 10 days). Please do shout and
> scream at me.
> Regards,
> Phill.
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Daniel Holbach 
> Date: Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 12:43 PM
> Subject: Ubuntu Developer Week - Preparation
> To: Sebastien Bacher , direct...@apebox.org, Barry Warsaw
> , Bhavani Shankar R , Martin Pitt
> , Brian Murray , Deryck Hodge
> , Nathan Handler , David
> Planella , John Johansen
> , Dustin Kirkland
> , Zygmunt Krynicki
> , Mark Russell ,
> Florian Boucault , Ahmed Kamal
> , Jani Monoses , Jay
> Taoko , James Page , Sam
> Spilsbury , Nigel Babu ,
> Michael Hall , Carlos de Avillez
> , Pedro Villavicencio
> , phi...@ubuntu.com
>
>
> Hello everybody,
>
> first of all: thank you very much for agreeing to give a session at this
> cycle's Ubuntu Developer Week! UDW would be nothing without you.
>
> Please forward this message to people who will give the session together
> with you, so they know what's going on and who to ask for help if necessary.
>
> We are going to announce the event either today or tomorrow and there is
> only very little for you to do until then (apart from preparing a few
> bits for your session... :-)).
>
>
> You might have heard of Lernid already. Think of it as a great way to
> join into learning events on IRC. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lernid has
> more info about it. We will advertise this as a good way for new people
> to join UDW. The great thing is that they don't have to bother with IRC
> and stuff, but also that links you mention automatically are opened in a
> webpage pane and that if you decide to use slides (in .pdf format), you
> can demo them too.
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lernid/Session%20Leaders has more info about how
> to do that. If you want your presentation to be available for the event,
> either send me a link to it or the presentation itself.
>
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek is the final schedule and I
> just set up https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Sessions where
> you can ask the attendants of your sessions to prepare themselves, if
> necessary. Also describe what the session is about. Please update the
> page accordingly.
>
> For those of you who have not participated in an Ubuntu Developer Week
> before, this is roughly how it works:
>
>  - Sessions are held in #ubuntu-classroom on irc.freenode.net. It will
>   almost exclusively you speaking in there. Please try to finish your
>   session in time for the next session.
>  - Some sessions in the past had ~400 attendants, so to keep the session
>   log readable and understandable, we ask attendants to ask their
>   questions in #ubuntu-classroom-chat. We will have a bot in the chat
>   channel who can relay questions easily. Check out
>   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom/ClassBot for more info.
>  - Session logs will be made available afterwards on
>   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek
>  - We will have translators available in channels like
>   #ubuntu-classroom-chat-ca, #ubuntu-classroom-chat-de, etc. who will
>   translate and relay questions to #ubuntu-classroom-chat for those who
>   are not confident enough in their English.
>
> Please help out spreading the news about it once it is announced!
>
> You all rock! If you have any more questions, please let me know.
>
> Have a great day,
>  Daniel
>
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[Lubuntu-desktop] Join up at Berlin 'Lightweight' desktop summit from Aug.6-12

[Mario Behling]

Hello,

the desktop summit of KDE and GNOME will be held in Berlin, Germany
from 6 - 12 August 2011. I believe this would be a great opportunity
to meet up with developers, designers and contributors from all over
the world. I would like to propose to hold an adjoin Mini-Summit to
add the focus Lightweight Desktops to events in Berlin. Who would be
interested to join?

I set up a wiki page collecting information of folks interested here:
http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Lightweight_Desktop_Summit_2011

Would be great to meet you in Berlin.

All the best,

Mario

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] more updating...expired domain

[Mario Behling]

Hi,

we are transferring the lxde.org domain to another host. It will be
available again from tomorrow on.

Thanks for your hints and patience.

- Mario

On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 9:49 PM, matthew byers  wrote:
> Hey i dont know if Mario Behling is still part of the team but they are
> listed as the owner of the lubuntu launchpad page and on there are some lxde
> links but since the lxde.org domain expired (2 May 2011) then all the other
> sub-domains went down as well to inlcude:
> http://lxde.org/
> http://join.lxde.org/
> http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Category:Packaging#Who
> I am not sure if the site just moved elsewhere but all wiki's/launchpad and
> lubuntu website will need to be updated to reflect this if there are any
> sites still linking to lxde.org.
> If i am just repeating what everyone already knows then please excuse my
> ignorance on this!!
>
> --
> God Bless
>

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] cd wallet

[Mario Behling]

Hi,

I love it.

Looks great.

- Mario


2011/4/30 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) 
>
> Hello, boys and girls. Here's the wallet. Lubuntu style, not Canonical style.
>
> Any changes / suggestions / ideas / hates? Vote, baby, vote (a Deee-Lite 
> song).
>

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 11.04 released

[Mario Behling]

Hi,

great work the new release!

I put it on the site as well.

Actually the lubuntu.net is not down, there are just masses of hits
making it extremely slow or unavailable for some people.

- Mario



On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Jared Norris  wrote:
> On 29 April 2011 05:05, Julien Lavergne  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Lubuntu 11.04 is now available :
>>
>>  * Torrent :http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-11.04.iso.torrent
>>  * Direct download : http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-11.04.iso
>>  * Md5: http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/md5sum.txt
>>
>
> The torrents are ripping along if anyone is curious - heaps of people
> seeding, heaps of people downloading - GOOD WORK!
>
> *snip*
>>
>> == Links ==
>>
>>  * Website : http://lubuntu.net/
>
> Please, if someone can look into lubuntu.net being down that would be
> appreciated. It was just reported on the IRC channel and I have confirmed,
> it's not working.
>
>>
>>  * Documentation : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu
>
> Are we at the stage of being able to change this to
> help.u.c/community/Lubuntu soon?
>>
>>  * LXDE website : http://lxde.org/
>>  * Announcement:
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Announcement/NattyNarwhal
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Julien Lavergne
>
>
> A big thank you to everyone involved in this, there are so many people
> making Lubuntu the great distribution is is today and as a regular Lubuntu
> user I really appreciate everyone's efforts.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych)
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris
>

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: "get lubuntu" on Lubuntu website

[Mario Behling]

Hello,

I think a page on the wiki collecting download links and links to the
release notes would be best as it can be maintained by all of us. The
we will link from the side bar to the release note page.

@Phil: As you work mostly on the wiki. Do we want to do it this way?

Ciao,

Mario


On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 8:14 AM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset
 wrote:
> People:
> Also it would be great if it could be 10.04.2 :)
>
> --
>>> jpxsat
>>> Ubuntu user #29.157 (Lubuntu 10.04)
>>> Linux user #522.597
>

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: [Lxde-list] ozon gtk theme

[Mario Behling]

Haha! Quite pretty, I guess. She is working on Lumiera. Sorry, I just had a
quick copy and paste and only looked at Raffael...

Take care!

Ciao Mario


On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 2:00 AM, 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) <
rafaellag...@gmail.com> wrote:

>  Mario, who is Raffaella Traniello? Is she pretty? [image: :D]
>
>   --
>   
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: [Lxde-list] ozon gtk theme

[Mario Behling]

Hi Simon,

the main contributor for art and design is
Raffaella Traniello 

Ciao,

Mario


2011/1/25 Simon Steinbeiß :
> On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 16:29:06 +
> Phill Whiteside  wrote:
>
>> Hiyas Simon,
>>
>> what can I say but thank you. We do appreciate you taking a bit of
>> time out to help on the lxde / lubuntu project.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Phill.
>
> No Problem, I just thought it doesn't make sense to do the same job
> twice :)
>
> So again, let me know when you have specific theming issues, I just
> stumbled upon a few new ones recently (e.g. claws-mail, chromium,
> synaptic) that are now integrated in Greybird (a revamped, more greyish
> version of Bluebird; the intense blue was a bit polarizing in our
> community so I thought I'd go with something smoother) and haven't been
> backported to Bluebird yet (not enough time currently).
>
> It would be nice to cooperate a bit more on artwork, especially because
> we're all dealing with the same pond of applications and some of those
> need special treatment. I for one want as many applications as possible
> to work/look great in Xubuntu - meaning: not just the ones installed by
> default - because many users will choose to install additional stuff or
> replacements. And the best thing (imo) for such theming issues is to
> communicate a bit more and try to get the fixes out to others as well.
>
> So if your artwork guy - I still don't know who that is :) - wants to
> get in touch or cooperate a bit more you know where you can find me.
>
> Cheers,
> Simon
>

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: [Lxde-list] ozon gtk theme

[Mario Behling]

Hi everyone,

the following came in through the LXDE mailing list. Simon has some
feedback on themes for Natty.

Ciao Mario


-- Forwarded message --
From: Simon Steinbeiß 
Date: 2011/1/19
Subject: [Lxde-list] ozon gtk theme
To: lxde-l...@lists.sourceforge.net


Hi everyone,
I just quickly wanted to say hello as I stumbled upon your proposed
default theme for Natty today.
I haven't been involved in Lubuntu at all and I haven't really been
following your project (simply not enough time), but I wanted to say
that I worked on Bluebird for Xubuntu (also based on Zuki Blues).

It seems you plan on using the theme as it comes and I wanted to share
my experience with that. The dependencies on the pixmap and equinox can
be removed without major damage to the theme's look, but providing a
lot better performance (at least that was my outcome after working on
it for Xubuntu Maverick).
Basically I have replaced the relevant parts with murrine and the
menubar-pixmap was changed (in fact you could also remove that, I guess
I just started working on it too late in the cycle), so if you're
looking for Zuki Blues without equinox and pixmap feel free to grab
Bluebird and change the menubar back. The rest is more or less as it
was (or: revamped with murrine) and a few issues (namely OpenOffice and
Firefox) have been fixed.

If you need my help or are looking for more comments on this issue,
feel free to contact me either via email or via irc (#xubuntu-devel,
#shimmer) on freenode.

Note: I don't subscribe to your list (too many already in my inbox), so
please include my email-address when replying to this thread - given
you want me to read the reply.

Cheers and good luck for Natty,
Simon

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubunu Screencasts

[Mario Behling]

Hi Phil,

would be great if you could host the videos on your server and if we
could embed them somehow in the lubuntu site. Unfortunately the videos
are currently with car advertisements when I view them. I already had
some discussions with Leszek about this as blip also offers adsfree
videos. It might be a solution if you host the videos, so we can offer
adfree videos. I am not totally against advertising, if it is for a
dedicated purpose. Particularly though, I find forced advertising
before a video pretty annoying. Just reminds me of boring TV times.

Ciao,

Mario


On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 2:30 AM, Phill Whiteside  wrote:
> Hiyas leszek,
> hopefully by the end of January I will have the ubuntu server installed on
> my friends dedicated server. If traffic on blip.tv is an issue, then I will
> transfer them over to the new server. I'm also sure that I have video
> conversion program on piglet if flv is causing people problems.
> Regards,
> Phill.
>
> On 2 January 2011 15:29, Steve  wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 02 Jan 2011 14:43:54 -, Leszek Lesner 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Am Sonntag 02 Januar 2011, um 00:41:22 schrieb Yorvyk:

 Interesting idea raised by now3d in IRC

 Hi there.  Could I ask if you would consider switching the Adobe Flash
 videos to be in the Ogg Theora format and use  tag? I looked at
 http://lubuntu.net/ but all the videos wouldn't play from Firefox on
 Ubuntu.

 Not sure how much work this would entail.
 Unfortunately my line kept dropping and I didn't get to talk about them
 not
 playing in FF.
>>>
>>> The newer ones should run fine in Chromium with
>>> chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra
>>> installed. The older ones are unfortunately only avaiable as flv files.
>>> The new videos from 2011 will be encoded in webm (which should be
>>> playable in
>>> every browser [FF 4.0 is needed]) + h264 (m4v as blip.tv now converts
>>> automatically to it). As for the video tag. As far as I know chromium is
>>> loading and caching those videos when you add them with the video tag.
>>> That
>>> would produce high traffic on the server. (blip.tv in that case) So a
>>> link to
>>> the file would be better I think. Clicking the link should then open up
>>> the
>>> video in the internal browser video player.
>>>
>> Thanks for the info Leszek.  I just download and play the in Lifrea or
>> Opera and haven't had any problems.  I don't know what the problem in FF is
>> (codec missing?) as they work for.
>>
>> Once again thank you for making these screen-casts, as they are very
>> useful.
>>
>> Happy New Year to you.:)
>>
>> --
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>> http://lubuntu.net
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] incorrect link on lubuntu.org

[Mario Behling]

Thank you. I corrected it.

Mario

On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 2:48 AM, Yorvyk  wrote:
> It has been pointed out that the release notes link on lubuntu.org points to 
> the notes for 10.04 beta and not 10.10.  Could this be updated?
>
> --
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>
> http://lubuntu.net
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] information on lubuntu.net

[Mario Behling]

Hi Aleksandar,

thank you for your suggestion. As you said correctly the info is kind
of spread on different websites. So, if you would like to help, please
feel free to put together this information, details and links and send
it to me to put up on the lubuntu site. We are always looking for
people who would like to get involved in all different kinds of tasks
including documentation.

Besides the lubuntu website, actually it is rather the wiki that will
hold more info and can be updated by everyone much easier.

All the best,

Mario


On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 4:50 AM, Aleksandar Ciric  wrote:
> Hello,
> Since this can be considered a minimalist distro, I think that there should
> be information about system requirements somewhere on website. There is only
> "as low as PII with 128MB ram". Great, but I have CF to IDE with 1GB CF
> card, so I dont know if I can install it before I try. I have found
> alternate install on other website, but I think that it would be great to
> have it on main site as well, since truly, with 128MB, liveCD just doesn't
> perform well.
>
> Best Regards,
> Aleksandar Ciric
>

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 10.10 released

[Mario Behling]

Hi Julian,

thanks a lot for the release and all your fantastic work. I published
the notes online.

Thanks to everyone for the involvement and support.

All the best,

Mario


On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Phill Whiteside  wrote:
> There is now a secondary server area at http://phillw.net/lubuntu-10.10.iso
> as Julien said, please use the torrents as I do not want to fall out with my
> temporary web hoster.
> If someone could down load it and check the iso as
> per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/CheckCD and make sure
> the md5 is okay, I'll add it as a secondary server to the wiki area.
> Thanks,
> Phill.
>
> On 10 October 2010 18:53, Yorvyk  wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 18:14:45 +0200
>> Julien Lavergne  wrote:
>>
>> > Lubuntu 10.10 is now available :
>> >
>> > == Thanks ==
>> >
>> > I would like to thanks all people involved in the development of Lubuntu
>> > during this past 6 months :
>> >
>> > Thanks to the LXDE team for providing this fast and nice desktop
>> > environment.
>> >
>> > Thanks to Rafael for his wonderful work on this new artwork.
>> >
>> > Thanks to Mario for his wonderful work on the website, the wiki and all
>> > the advertising.
>> >
>> > Thanks to all testers which help in the testing process, making Lubuntu
>> > better.
>> >
>> > Thanks to Phillw and Zach, our masters of the wiki and the
>> > documentation.
>> >
>> > Thanks to all people which help to provide support and documentation to
>> > new Lubuntu users.
>> >
>> > It was a pleasure to work with you.
>> >
>> I’d like to echo Julien, in thanking everybody involved in getting Lubuntu
>> this far and hope it can continue to get better and better :D
>>
>>
>> --
>> Steve Cook (Yorvyk)
>>
>> http://lubuntu.net
>>
>>

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New mailing list "lxde-i18n" for LXDE translators

[Mario Behling]

Hi,

yes, this is a good idea. Actually we can migrate the subscribers. Let
us coordinate by chat later.

- Mario

On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:46 AM, PCMan  wrote:
> In the past we used  to coordinate
> translation work for LXDE. This mailing list server, however, suffers
> from unexpected downtime sometimes recently and has some maintaince
> issues. To eliminate the maintaince load and provide more stable
> service, we’re moving to a new mailing list hosted on sourceforge.net
> after some discussions. Since all other LXDE-related mailing lists are
> all on sourceforge.net, it’s quite natural to do so for translations
> as well.
>
> Address of the new mailing list is: 
> To subscribe or unsubscribe, please go to:
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lxde-i18n
>
> Current and potential future translators of LXDE, if you see this
> message, please subscibe to the new mailing list instead. We already
> start using the new mailing list to coordinate translation work. The
> traffic of the list is low and we call for translations when a new
> release is being planned. The lxde-i18n list is specifically used for
> translation and related discussions only. General development issues
> are discussed using the “lxde-list” mailing list.
>
> Some new releases of LXDE components are now being planned. So let’s do it!
>

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Grub Install Bug @Lubuntu-10.04 (Distribution Release)

[Mario Behling]

Dear all,

forwarded a bug report below.

Best,

Mario

-- Forwarded message --
From: Abnormal Terminate(R) 
Date: Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 12:35 AM
Subject: Grub Install Bug @Lubuntu-10.04 (Distribution Release)
To: Mario Behling 


Hi!
I cannot create Bug Report, because it I put it here...
Environment:
1. Using a PC, who can be uses an USB external HDD or SSD (and can be
mounted as sdb device).
2. Install Lubuntu from CD to this USB HDD (as variant, install to SDHD
Flash Card, plugged into PCs CardReader), mounted as sdb1.
3. Using Parted Editing manually, and put "/" for all device space
without swap.
Result of Install Lubuntu:
1. After normally ended Installation Process, my PC has the MBR on FIRST
HDD (!!!), but I _use not_ this device for installation Lubintu, not use
it completely!
2. On my PC cannot be starts none PS' File Systems without having as
plugged External Devices because MBD find it and stooped without this
External HDD or SDD. It has black screen only and display Diagnostic
Message on this situation.
Resume:
It's stupidly situation. And who is this developer, who wrote a code for
use as default FIRST HDD (mounted as sda) for put MBR, but loading Grub
from SECOND HDD (mounted as sdb), if the User set up as work (loadable)
Device SECOND HDD or other device?!
And Setup absolutely have not any position for user's choosing about a
Device, who can be uses as place for the Master Boot Record...
It is absolutely abnormal situation, IMHO.
For example, Ubuntu (or Xbuntu) Installer has an option for choosing a
place for create MBR with choosing place for Grub too.
Thanks for possibility of understanding.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] lubuntu.net Download link

[Mario Behling]

Hi,

I changed one of the links at "get lubuntu". The download links that
were used before still work. Might have been a temporary problem. I do
not know. If no, please let me know, where exactly are the links that
do not work.

Thanks,

Mario



On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 9:41 PM, Phillip Whiteside  wrote:
> Hi,
> it's been reported that the link on lubuntu.net is not working, the one I
> use is https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg01319.html If someone
> with authority could amend the non-functioning link.
> Regards,
> Phill.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Czech official Lubuntu website - Drupal theme

[Mario Behling]

Hi Martin,

good idea about the website. I saw that you are already active in the
Linux community, so this is great! It would be good if you could form
a team of a few people to share the tasks.

I am currently only shortly in front of the computer. Will send you
the design tomorrow and upload it to the wiki. The Drupal version is
version 6.

By the way, I have not received an email from you. Maybe it landed in
spam. I dont know.

All the best,

Mario


2010/5/9 Martin Malý :
> Hello,
>
> our Czech Ubuntu community wants to make a new czech official website
> for lubuntu - www.lubuntu.cz . Please, can you give me the Drupal theme
> from lubuntu.net? With which version od Drupal is it compatible? Have
> you any another experience with building site about Lubuntu?
>
> I've sended this e-mail to Mario Behling, but I haven't got a reply yet,
> so I'm trying to use this mailing list.
>
> Thank you a lot. Excuse my english, I hope that you've understood.
>
> Have a nice day.
> Martin Malý
> martin.m...@xubuntu.cz
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Congratulations

[Mario Behling]

Hi,

it is always great to hear how people joined up. So, please feel free
to post a comment on the blog announcement, if you want.

http://lubuntu.net/blog/lubuntu-1004-now-available-download

Ciao Mario


On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 1:50 AM, Phillip Whiteside  wrote:
> May I also thank everyone who has made lubuntu possible. I know that I am
> frequently more a hinderance than a help, just think of me as the voice of a
> 'n00b' :-)
> My first try with lubuntu was at the start of February, whilst I know a lot
> of work had been done prior to that, the work you have all put in since the
> first meeting I attended on the 20th Feb has been astounding.
> People have been crying out for something like 'Lubuntu', now they have it.
> I'm glad the press release does mention things like server environments, it
> will go to negate any thought that lubuntu is only for old computers. Quite
> the opposite, it brings these older computers bang up to date, it is a
> massive credit to you all that you have managed this  yet keep the tight
> contraints of RAM and CPU usage.
> To everyone that has taken part, either from the very start or joined
> later... Thanks, you've made one heck of a release.
> Here's to adoption as a Meerkat :-)
> Thanks,
> Phill.
>
> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Leszek Lesner  wrote:
>>
>> Congrats.
>> Very nice and pretty release. I'm proud being a part of it ;)
>>
>>
>>
>> Josef schrieb:
>>>
>>> Yes to everybody and you.. Congratulations for getting the Lubuntu to the
>>> Final.
>>> thanks for making Ubuntu with a LXDE flavor. And I am looking forward to
>>> next release.
>>>
>>> On 5/3/2010 3:38 PM, Steve wrote:

 Congratulations to everybody involved in getting Lubuntu to a 'Final'
 release.  Plenty of people downloading via torrent. Lets hope it
 attracts a few more helpers.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu.net membership

[Mario Behling]

Hi Yorvyk,

we have not configured lubuntu.net for public use yet.

What kind of community features would you like to see? What do you
want to do on lubuntu.net?

- Mario


On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Steve  wrote:
>
> Back in March I attempted to create a User Logon for lubuntu.net and
> received an email:
>
>
> Yorvyk,
>
> Thank you for registering at lubuntu. Your application for an account is
> currently pending approval. Once it has been approved, you will receive
> another e-mail containing information about how to log in, set your
> password, and other details.
>
>
> --  lubuntu team
>
> I never received the above mentioned email and there for can’t login etc.
>
>
> --
> Steve (Yorvyk)
> http://lubuntu.net
>

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Promoting lubuntu 10.04

[Mario Behling]

Dear all,

exciting times! As Julien has released the final version for lubuntu
lucid, it is time to promote the release. We are having a lot of hits
on lubuntu.net and blogs are pushing the news.

We also need to get the message about lubuntu out in the mainstream. I
formulated a press release which you can find on
http://lubuntu.net/news/ [1] and in the wiki.

If you would like to help, please correct errors (as I am not an
English native speaker) and help translating the release into your
language in the wiki [2]. There are also some images for promotion
available from Rafael Laguna in the Artwork section here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Artwork/ . If you have any contacts to
journalists, please send the release to them. It would be good to have
journalists signing up the newly installed newsletter on lubuntu.net
as well.

Finally, there are a lot of forums that exist already. Please join
your local Ubuntu forum and support people who install lubuntu the
first time. In the http://ubuntuforums.org lubuntu related entries can
be tagged "lubuntu".

As this release is marked as a "final beta" be aware that this is an
excellent release, but also be aware that development is ongoing and
as more people start using lubuntu some bugs might appear. So, we need
more developers who can join development actively.

All the best from Vietnam,

Mario


[1] 
http://lubuntu.net/news/faster-lightweight-and-energy-saving-desktop-lubuntu-1004-stable-beta-released
[2] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Marketing/Press%20Releases

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] main ubuntu forum

[Mario Behling]

Hi Goh,

thanks for your input. Actually I think in regards to marketing
lubuntu is quite successful. There are thousands of blog entries and
many people are talking about it.

There was not a release for the general public yet and we are still at
the beginning.

So, any support from your side is welcome!

Ciao Mario


On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Goh Lip  wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 22:55:25 +0100
> Phill Whiteside  wrote:
>> Personally, I'd prefer the lubuntu tag rather than us being hidden
>> away in some dark corner of the forum, it will encourage people to
>> read about lubuntu & hopefully try it out. As always, your views on
>> the two options are needed.
>
> Perhaps 2 small technical points about this mailing list itself.
>
> Could something be done so that all replies are directed back to this
> mailing list rather than to the sender if the sender (inadvertently)
> sends as 'cc' rather than 'to' ? (as what's being done in the ubuntu
> and kubuntu mailing list)
>
> Also can this mailing list be 'ported' or 'mirrored' to the gmane
> newsgroup too?
>
> Lastly, but I think more importantly, the exposure and 'market recall',
> no.even just knowing about 'Lubuntu' is low.  Not many people have
> heard of it, even the ubuntu users themselves and that's a shame.
>
> I understand Lubuntu is not 'officially' part of ubuntu yet, (just a
> part of launchpad?) and that's perhaps the reason we cannot be too
> 'overt' about this, but could you share with us the framework that
> needs to be done to achieve this? Who knows, some of us here, besides
> being good designers and techies are good in marketing and pr too? (but
> I hope not in office politics and corporate shenaniganism  :) )
>
> Thanks, regards - Goh Lip
>
> --
> If you understand, things are the way they are.
> If you do not understand, things are the way they are.
>

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Join the LXDE translation project

[Mario Behling]

Dear all,

the desktop environment of lubuntu still needs translators. It would
be great if there are more people who could join the translation
project on http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Category:Translations

The systems that can be used for the translation are:
#  Pootle: http://pootle.lxde.bsnet.se
# Transifex: http://www.transifex.net/projects/p/lxde/

For pootle you need additional permissions to be able to translate.

Steps:
1. Register at http://pootle.lxde.bsnet.se
2. Tell me
a) your user name
b) the language(s) you want to help with
3. Wait for my confirmation that you are accepted
4. Start translating online.

I am looking forward to your mails!

- Mario

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] pyNeigborhood

[Mario Behling]

Hi,

to help in the desktop translation team please join the LXDE
translation project here:
http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Category:Translations

There are already some Polish translators who you can collaborate with.

All the best,

Mario


2010/4/4 Grzegorz Radziwoński :
> I've, but I don't know how to preform tests. Anyone can tell me how I can
> join translators team, I'm native Polish, Iv'e enough free time and skill to
> do it. Sorry for off-top.
>
> 2010/4/3 PCMan 
>>
>> Do we really need pyneiborhood?
>> The file manager should support smb through gvfs.
>> If it doesn't work, we need to debug it and make it work.
>> The main difficulty here is I have no smb network avaialble for testing.
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 3:16 AM, Steve 
>> wrote:
>> > Good news for those of us trying to get pyNeighborhood to work.  There
>> > is a shiny new verison 0.5.1-rc1 in Launchpad, which works :) Hopefully
>> > this can be made available in the nest release of Lubuntu. Pretty
>> > Please :D
>> >
>> > https://launchpad.net/pyneighborhood
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Steve (YorvYk)
>> >
>> > http://lubuntu.net/
>> >
>> >

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Screencasts

[Mario Behling]

Hi,

very nice videos. I was thinking about the inclusion of videos in the
distro. However, this contradicts with the goal of keeping the distro
small. Would it be an alternative to offer a separate (optional)
package with support videos for download through the repository as
well as via the site?

What do you think?

- Mario

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 4:32 AM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:
> Le mardi 30 mars 2010 à 20:40 +0200, Leszek Lesner a écrit :
>>
>> Here a few new screencasts of Lubuntu showing some of the default apps in 
>> Lubuntu.
>> I intended to keep this screencasts short for the sake of beginners and 
>> switchers.
>> All the screencasts were created with free software and edited with OpenShot 
>> video editor.
>>
>> http://blip.tv/rss/bookmarks/206798 (RSS Feed, needs a feedreader)
>> The Videos in the RSS Feed should also be downloadable with Aqualung. But it 
>> will download all of them :)
>>
>>
>> Have fun ;)
>>
>> Leszek
>
> Really nice :) Especially, I like the aqualung and the chromium ones :)
> Just a note for futur screencast, it could be nice to have the locale
> set to english :)
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
>

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Error on http://lubuntu.net

[Mario Behling]

Hi,

thanks for the info. I just tried and it works for me. Maybe the
Akismet server was unavailable for a short time and this caused the
error. If the error persists, please let me know which article you are
trying to comment.

Thanks,

Mario


On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Mikhail Maksimov  wrote:
> Hi, all.
>
> I get the following messages when trying to save a comment in lubuntu.net 
> blog:
>
> Fatal error: Call to undefined function drupal_submit_form() in
> /var/www/web0/html/lubuntu/sites/all/modules/akismet/akismet.module on
> line 707
>
> Is it hard to fix? There are other comments on the page, so maybe it's
> something broken by a recent update? Well, just a guess...
>
> Regards!
> Mikhail
>

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Broken link on lubuntu.net

[Mario Behling]

Fixed.

Thanks.

Mario

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Mikhail Maksimov  wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I've found a broken link on lubuntu.net website. In the top area of
> the start page, there is a section with "lubuntu is a faster, more
> lightweight and [...] Please join us. Read more..." The "Read more..."
> part is actually a link to http://lubuntu.net/about, which doesn't
> exist. "About" link in the navigation area (top-right corner) leads to
> http://lubuntu.net/node/1, which is apparently the right address. I
> believe this is some kind of typo or misconfiguration and should be
> corrected.
>
> Sincerely,
> Mikhail
>

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] IRC meeting : Sunday 14 February 15:00 UTC

[Mario Behling]

Hi,

yes, very good. We need an IRC. February 14 is Lunar New Year (Chinese
New Year, Tet in Vietnam etc) though. Many people in Asia might be
busy and not able to participate.

Can we make it one week later? February 21? Or maybe have one again on
February 21 in case anyone would like to add something to the
discussion?

What do you think?

Ciao Mario


PS: In any case, the time seems good to have many people participating
from all over the world. Only for the Middle East it is a bit early:
http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=2&day=14&year=2010&hour=15&min=0&sec=0&p1=0


On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 5:47 AM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would like to plan an IRC meeting, for all people interesting in the
> Lubuntu development, on Sunday 14 February 15:00 UTC. It will be the
> occasion to finalize the list of default applications, and for people
> who want to ask questions about the development.
>
> This meeting will take place on the #lubuntu chan on freenode.
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] i could help translating

[Mario Behling]

Hi Jo,

Welcome in the team!

lubuntu is based on LXDE and other software. Please follow the steps
on http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Category:Translations to join the
translation team. At the moment the first version of new PCMan File
Manager is looking for translators. And we also look for people who
can check the English menus etc. as most of the people in the project
are not native speakers.

- Mario


On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 4:28 PM, yo_yoh  wrote:
> hi, my name is jo gerb.
> i joined your team and id like to help. i could translate lubuntu into
> german, and i also could aid you with the design.
> have a nice day,
> jo
> --
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Default Browser

[Mario Behling]

Hi,

the discussion is coming up from time to time. This is a good
overview. My additions to Julien inline

> == Keep Firefox ==
> + Firefox is well-known
> + Well maintained upstream and on Ubuntu
> + Many features
  + supported in many languages
> - Slow on startup
> - Memory usage
> ? Rendering seems slower
>
> == Switch to Midori ==
> + Small and fast
> + Memory usage
> - Upstream active but with limited developers compared to the 2 others.
> - Features limited
- problems with rendering some web pages

>
> == Switch to Chromium ==
> + Similar to Chrome, which begin to be well-known
> + Good interface for small screen
> + Upstream active, supported by Google
> +- Firefox have still more possibility and features than Chromium
> ? Maybe be maintained by Mobile Team
> ? Private data send ?

Privacy is a real issue. There is an alternative see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SRWare_Iron
David Sugar mentioned one time, that the Chromium maintainers might
look into it. Now, that Canonical is changing to Yahoo as its standard
search engine is the team also looking into this aspect? Google would
still get information about what people search with Yahoo or Bing even
when Google is not the standard search engine.

- Mario

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Email client choice

[Mario Behling]

Hi,

I was also thinking a few days ago about the need for inclusion of a
mail client. These days I hardly know anyone using mail clients. Many
non-expert users prefer to use webmail. Secondly many power users also
use webmail or even a remote server desktop in order to keep their
data in one place and easily available even if they change devices.

What do you think about it, Julien?

Ciao Mario


On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 3:06 AM, Yotam Medini יותם מדיני
 wrote:
> Please consider claws-mail which is derived from sylpheed.
>
> On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Following the video player discussion, there is also concern about the
>> email client. For now, we used sylpheed.

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: [Lxde-list] New release of LXSession, lxde-common, and lxpanel

[Mario Behling]

Dear all,

below some info important info for lubuntu from the lxde mailing list.

Best,

Mario


-- Forwarded message --
From: PCMan 
Date: Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:53 PM
Subject: [Lxde-list] New release of LXSession, lxde-common, and lxpanel
To: lxde-list 


No new strings are added/removed from all the apps, so no translation
update is needed.

The following changes were done:

lxde-common:
 * nuoveXT2 icon theme is removed from lxde-common and is moved to
lxde-icon-theme package instead.
 * startlxde script now executes 'lxsession -s LXDE -e LXDE' rather
than 'lxsession -s LXDE' to reflect the changes in lxsession.
 * unnecessary files are removed

lxsession:
* new command line argument: -e
 This let you set the internal name of the DE. This value is exported
via env. variable $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP.
 The DE name can be used to match desktop files which contain
compatible OnlyShowIn and NotShowIn key values.
* the -s argument was reserved for session name only and was used to
load related config files for the desktop session.
 For example, you can execute:
 lxsession -s Lubuntu -e LXDE
 This should load config files from Lubuntu dir, but the DE is still
recognized as LXDE by applications.

 So Lubuntu devs if you see this, please upgrade to this version and
remove unnucessary patches you previously did. Your session profile
can be renamed to Lubuntu but please keep using -e LXDE. Otherwise
LXDE applications won't show in your application menu.

lxpanel:
* determine visibility of applications in menu by comparing OnlyShowIn
and NotShowIn key values and $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP.
 That means, if you like, you can have lxpanel show Gnome menu by the following
 export XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=GNOME
 Then lxpanel will show gnome applications instead of LXDE ones.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Tested on MSI Wind U100

[Mario Behling]

Hi David,

thanks a lot for your ideas.

Do you have more information on which Chromium version will be in the
Ubuntu repo? The reason why some people refrain from using Chromium
are privacy issues. An RLZ identifier, an encoded string is sent to
Google on search queries or every 24 hours with Chromium. Will that be
changed in the Chromium version in Ubuntu?

Thanks,

Mario


On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 10:15 PM, David Sugar  wrote:
> This touches upon many areas.  I will initially comment on a few.  In
> respect to SD cards and lower cost SSD media, I think there is a lot we
> can do to better optimize the user experience, even from install time,
> and perhaps Lubuntu is the right place to think about doing this first.
>  There is (naturally:) a blueprint I have on this topic:
> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-lucid-unr-ssd-optimizations
>
> There were a couple of things I recall missing in the original seed for
> Karmic, including a mixer.  These things will be addressed in the
> Lubuntu seed for Lucid.  The usb creator can be used to take any iso cd
>  install image and turn it into a USB install, so once we have a live
> iso for Lubuntu Lucid, making it available for USB keys is very easy.
> This is what is done for UNR in Karmic (and presumably Lucid), where we
> distribute a CD ISO while most netbooks of course have no CD/DVD drive.
>
> I like the idea of LXDE as a server gui for local admin as well.  Maybe
> the place to start is with the mini-iso, where we could work on having
> the ability to select ubuntu server and lxde desktop as a valid
> combination.  In fact I was thinking of taking a netbook and using it as
> a soho server, so it would be very logical to have lxde on that :).
>
> Chromium is going to be used for UNE on ARM, and the same arguments
> could apply to Lubuntu, where firefox is a resource hog.  Of course, I
> think epiphany-webkit or something similar does also work well for
> Lubuntu, and supports mozilla plugins including flash.
>
> I would love to see more people asking more questions, not less :).
>
> Josef A. Beroeatwarin wrote:
>> Hai everybody
>>
>> Hai I tested Lubuntu on my MSI wind U100, I am not a pro like you guys
>> but I like to have my hands on it because I really believe lubuntu
>> will be much better the Xubuntu. And of course I WANT to have a very
>> lightweight linux on my netbook and PC.
>>
>> I am running on Ubuntu 9.10 remix  installed on my MSI Wind U100, after
>> I while I started with Apt to install LXDE
>> After running on LXDE I was satisfied and very optimistic that  it will
>> be one  that  I am looking for.( after a lot of  switching for linux to
>> linux)
>>
>> Here are the problems on the MSI wind U100:
>>
>> * Filemanager Pcman  0.5.1 on the left windows are drives displayed
>> twice. if you click one of the with the same name you will get an
>> error-message "Directory doesnt exist"
>> * Wicd it a very nice looking piece but to bad, to while connection the
>> the wirelles network (WEP) ofcourse it was validated but I got an error
>> message "Connection failed:Unable get IP Adress" that was during the
>> status "Obtaining IP address.
>> * I have no sound I realize I have no mixer something like that so I
>> dont know if its muting or not.
>> * FN keys. FN+F4 and FN+F5 is working very well,its for dimming the
>> back-light and  FN+F12 sleep mode is working but after wakeup its
>> starting to sleep again and again after wakeup
>> *My bluetooth is witched on with FN+F11 but no blue-tooth detected
>> (sorry I forgot to listed with lsusb before installing ubuntu remix again)
>> * Harddisk external and flashdisk is working very well.
>>
>> My Questions,request,Ideas,what I hope very soon or whatever it is.
>>
>> 1. The Lubuntu in alpha stage on iso,when. Ofcourse everybody is busy.
>> 2. Lubuntu on flash disk image because there is alot of netbooks without
>> CD or DVD.
>> 3. Sometimes I got netbook that has an SDcard as HDA is it compatible
>> with it ?
>> 4. I think Lubuntu will be great for creating server from old PC's with
>> GUI interface instead having console at from your nose and doing that Vi
>> thing.Maybe is there somebody can make a server edition. While
>> installing you can choose what of kind of server do you want to install.
>> 5. And nice front-end for backup that can make image of the drives.
>> 6. Do you guys think that thunderbird and firefox take of computer
>> sources especially nower days there is allot of websites based on flash
>> like  farmville it make even windows xp slow.
>> 7. What is the other syntax like dmesg and lsusb that I can use to get
>> info out of my toys and to send to you guys.
>> 8. Last thing that I want to say is.. I am sorry for starting asking
>> allot of questions even the alpha  is not out yet...
>>
>> Well guys thats it... I hope its enough for the input.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New programs by default

[Mario Behling]

Hi,

thanks for starting the work on Lucid. Can we update

I agree, that we need to look out for lightweight options for applications.

About the applications you are proposing.

xfce task manager - I know that lxtask has some bugs, but we defined
it in the applications list. Please let us know, what is the reason to
change it?

parcellite - seems good to me.

Osmo - I wonder how compatible we should try to keep it with other
solutions. Import and export functionality of data seems to be very
rudimentary? I found ical can be exported. What do you think?

language-selector - very useful!

software-properties-gtk - good idea

How about lxlauncher - where would be a good place to have a button to
change desktop mode? Do you agree that a switchable desktop mode would
be a good idea?

Regards,

Mario


On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just added 6 new programs to the seed to cover some missing features.
> They will be installed by default in the next upload of the seed :
> - xfce4-taskmanager : for monitoring tasks, the origin of lxtask
> - parcellite : for a clipboard manager (not start on login for now)
> - hardinfo : for information on the system
> - osmo : for managing event, calendar ...
> - language-selector : for installing language packs
> - software-properties-gtk : for managing sources in synatic
>
> The splash is still missing, but as plymouth was just uploaded, I prefer
> to wait more before adding it to the seed.
>
> If you think the seed need other programs to be added (not replaced !),
> please speak now :)
>
> For discussion on existing applications, please begin a new thread or a
> new page on the wiki. Please also note this :
> - Only propose application which are in the archive (not PPA, official
> archive). Exceptions are lxde components (like lxdm) and chromium which
> should be added to official repository soon.
> - Prepare some arguments :) The actual policy is to keep the existing
> seed, so the application need to bring real and additional interesting
> stuff.
> - Read and update previous discussion on
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Applications/Process%20Documentation
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] How to contribute to Lubuntu

[Mario Behling]

Hi Julien,

thanks for this how to get involved. I posted it on the LXDE blog as well.

http://blog.lxde.org/?p=562

Hope to see people getting involved more actively.

All the best,

Mario

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 6:14 AM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This is a quick summarize for people wanted to help on Lubuntu. In
> general, all tasks will be documented on the Subteams pages :
> - Packages and Code :
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/CodingAndPackagingSubTeam
> - Artwork : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/ArtworkSubTeam
> - Doc : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/DocumentationSubTeam
> - Translations :
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TranslationSubTeam
> - Testing : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam
>
> == Participate to the LXDE project ==
> This is the most efficient way to contribute to Lubuntu. If you want a
> functionality, translate a package etc ... you should directly work with
> LXDE.
> - LXDE site : http://lxde.org/
> - LXDE mailing list :
> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=lxde-list
> - SVN repository : http://sourceforge.net/projects/lxde/develop
>
> == Create an artwork for Lubuntu ==
> We don't have an original artwork, and it's an important goal for Lucid.
> Some works began on the LXDE forum, but there is a lots to do to create
> a complete set of artwork. Currently, it could be nice to have :
>      * 1 wallpaper
>      * 1 icon set
>      * 1 GTK engine
>      * 1 login manager theme (for lxdm)
>      * Custom configuration for GTK theme in the session
>      * 1 openbox theme
>      * 1 banner for logout
>      * 1 logo for the main menu
>      * 1 background image for lxpanel
>      * 1 cursor
>      * Specific icons for lxpanel
>      * 1 splash screen (for usplash or/and plymouth)
> Please see
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/ArtworkSubTeam/Documentation
> for details.
> If you want to work on artwork, you should contact the Ubuntu Art Team.
> There are a very good experience on making artwork for K/X/Ubuntu
> etc ...
> It's also important to work on the artwork, as a complete set. It's
> better to submit  a wallpaper + icon set + gtk engine together than
> separately.
> - The Ubuntu Art Team https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork
> - Lubuntu Wiki pages for Artwork
> (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/ArtworkSubTeam and
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Artwork/Incoming/Lucid )
>
> IMPORTANT NOTE : We didn't have currently decide the colors of the
> artwork. We should discuss and decide this on the next IRC meeting. But
> you can create some mockups to add them to the discussion :)
>
> == Triage bugs on Launchpad ==
> We need to manage bug reports for many packages (mostly, the LXDE core
> packages).
> See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage/ for an overview of the
> triaging on Ubuntu.
> The current packages and bugs are here :
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-packaging/+packagebugs
> Most important to know is :
> - Is the bug is correctly affected ?
> - Is the bug still reproductible by user in Ubuntu 9.10 ? By you ?
> - Is there a solution/patch available on the bug ? Upstream ? In another
> distribution ?
>
> == Fix bugs / Develop features ==
> If you want to work on a bug, you should affect it to you so people know
> you are working on it. If you want to implement a feature, or working on
> a patch, you should open a bug on Launchpad, so people can eventually
> help you.
> I'll try to add a TODO list for packagers who want to help but want some
> mentoring or ideas (See
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/CodingAndPackagingSubTeam for
> futur information).
>
> == Testing ==
> We may have some ISO to test near the Alpha 1 of Lucid, it's a good
> occasion to test if it's working, and report bugs. You don't need to
> know how to code for this, just use Lubuntu and report bugs/complain
> about it.
> You can also install a command line Lucid system in VirtualBox and
> install lubuntu-desktop package by "sudo apt-get install
> --no-install-recommends lubuntu-desktop".
> Another way is to test a pristine lxde session by installing the lxde
> package, and see if no Lubuntu specific patch cause problems in a
> standart LXDE session.
> To report bug, do ubuntu-bugs the_name_of_the_package_affected. If you
> don't know, use ubuntu-bug lubuntu-meta, we'll triage it for you :)
> Testing (and reporting problems) is critical, because developers can
> only try to fix problems if there are reported.
>
> == Improve the Documentation ==
> Our wiki ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu ) can always be improved. If
> you intend to do massive changes, please inform the mailing list before.
>
> Feel free to add others tasks if you have any in mind. Some others tasks
> will probably appear in the futur on this mailing list or on the
> SubTeams pages. Also, you can ask any questions on any of those items on
> the mailing list, or directly to me.
>
> Thanks in advance for your help :)
>
> Regards

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] a suggestion

[Mario Behling]

Hi,

yes, I am also having the discussion about browsers. I agree, we need
a more lightweight browser.

At the moment I have not seen a browser that is convincing. We have
talked about this in Taiwan as well, but no solution yet. We need to
test suggestions like your one.

In Taiwan some said, the best choice might be to take Chrome, maybe
the version without the Google data collection functions.

Cheers,

Mario

On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The choice of the browser is not final for Lubuntu 10.04. It will be discuss 
> during the cycle, and also during Ubuntu Developpers summit. You can see 
> details on this 2 specifications :
> - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Specs/LubuntuLucidApplications
> - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Specs/ArmLightweightBrowser
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
>
> On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:58:00 +0200
> mehageg  wrote:
>
>> as lubuntu is a fast-lightweight version of ubuntu, maybe it's time to
>> consider using arora  instead of
>> firefox as the main web-browser.
>> from my personal experience, arora fits very well as my main browser, it
>> supports the main state-of-the art technologies (javascript+ajax, flash,
>> java applets etc), has the main features you find in firefox (ad-block,
>> live-http, privacy mode, tabbed surfing, smart bar).
>>
>> in the bottom line, it's just as great as firefox, just much faster and
>> slimmer. matches perfectly the lubuntu/lxde way, as I see it.
>
>
> --
> Julien Lavergne 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ubuntu submit sessions for Lubuntu

[Mario Behling]

Hi,

thanks a lot for the info. I am organizing the GNOME.Asia Summit in
Vietnam at the moment with core participation of LXDE. So, I am afraid
I do not have time to participate remotely.

Even though remote participation is generally difficult, I still hope
we can push our goals with the help of Paul Liu and Arne Goetje, who I
talked to in Taiwan a few days ago. I would like to see a get together
of Lighweight Ubuntu developers and LXDE developers. Since most of
them are in Asia, it would be best to meet up here. March or April
2010 would be a good time. I hope we can get the support of Canonical
for such an event.

I am very happy with David Sugar's involvement in lubuntu. He has done
a great job involving more people. Still, I would like to support to
(also) have an upstream developer of LXDE at Canonical focusing on
lubuntu. Paul Liu is a core member of LXDE and is responsible for the
LXDE packages in Ubuntu for a long time. As, I see only very few
developers of Canonical in Asia. For example here in Vietnam there are
a lot of people interested to become l/Ubuntu developers. To make this
a success we need face to face developer gatherings and workshops.

I hope we can get these ideas to Canonical apart from development goals.

All the best,

Mario


On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The Ubuntu developpers submit will begin this monday. There will be 4 
> sessions dedicated to Lubuntu (if schedule don't change):
> Tuesday 17th, 15h (21h UTC), Room Madison : Artwork [1]
> Tuesday 17th, 16h15 (22h15 UTC), Room Waverly : Default applications [2]
> Wednesday 18th, 9h (15h UTC), Room Waverly : Packaging tasks [3]
> Friday 20th, 11h (17h UTC), Room Presidente : Community goals for LXDE [4].
>
> You can see informations about remote participation on the Ubuntu wiki [5]. 
> Especially, there is specific IRC chan, but I'll try to not forget to 
> announce it on #lubuntu chan.
>
> Feel free to add comments on the whiteboard of the blueprint or on the wiki 
> page for futur discussion.
>
> Thanks for your participation.
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
>
> [1]: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Specs/LubuntuLucidArtwork
> [2]: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Specs/LubuntuLucidApplications
> [3]: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Specs/LubuntuLucidPackagingPolicy
> [4]: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Specs/LXDECommunityDevelopmentLucid
> [5]: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-L/RemoteParticipation
>

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Logo

[Mario Behling]

Hi Josh,

thank you very much for working on the logo. Please publish it on the
forum. We had a lubuntu meetup yesterday in Taipei as well and several
people work on artwork here as well.

Actually the current logo was a temporary one. We have many good logos
on the forum of lxde: http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=437 .
we should decide soon, which one to use in future.

We can use the upcoming months to get more lubuntu artwork and themes done.

A stable release of lubuntu will include the new PCManFM and be
offered in first quarter 2010.

All the best,

Mario

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Sin  wrote:
> I've converted the Lubuntu logo into a .svg and a .pdf scalable vector
> graphic.  If you feel that you want a copy, I can make either version
> available to you.  The only condition I request is that it should you
> use it, it should also be used on the wikipedia page as opposed to the
> raster version.
>
> Thank you.
> Josh Embrey
>

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 9.10 - installation bugs ?

[Mario Behling]

Hi Yotam,

I am sorry, but the current lubuntu releases are only test snapshots.
There are still a lot of bugs and it may not work on your system.

Please feel free to get involved.

We are looking forward to future better supported releases.

All the best,

Mario


On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 5:21 AM, Yotam Medini  wrote:
> Hello LUbuntu community
>
> May be there is a better address for this.
> But I encounter several installation bugs.
> Is there a place to search or file LUbuntu-installation bug reports?
>
> Currently, after what seems to be a completed installation
> of  lubuntu-9.10_lynxis_b23.is  via:
>   ubiquity --desktop gtk_ui
>
> After boot, I see the 4-letter word:
>
>  GRUB
>
> and nothing happens.
>
> -- yotam
>

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Meet up in Singapore on Sep. 24

[Mario Behling]

Dear all,

please see below the invitation of Luther and me for a meet up in
Singapore for interested lubuntu folks this week in Singapore, that
was send out to local groups. If anyone is on the list from Singapore,
please join.

All the best,

Mario

-

This is a meetup call for anyone who is interested in contributing to
Lubuntu, an LXDE flavour of Ubuntu.

Elfgoh and I are keen to form a Singapore based Lubuntu team. A team
located within the same locality may be able to coordinate and
collaborate much more efficiently due to physical proximity. Both
technical and non technical contributors are required, but willingness
to contribute and learn actively is the key. Areas of contribution
include the Drupal website, seeding, packaging, artwork and
translation

There is already a beta iso of Karmic. But much work remains to be done.

This informal meetup aims to bring together current and potential
Lubuntu contributers to answer any queries and tie down any
coordinations.

The meetup will take place in town at 7.45pm on Thursday, Sep. 24. A
contact of Elfgoh has offered to help us book a venue in SMU, School
of Information Systems, failing which we will meet at the Kopitiam
beside SMU. For the purposes of keeping interested parties updated of
the finalized venue, please RSVP at
http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dFNtaHZ0cUxfUUZlYTcyTExBdXlfMUE6MA

If you have trouble locating the venue on the actual day, please
contact Elfgoh at 91292492.

Looking forward to meet up with interested folks!

- Elfgoh & Mario

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Mplayer, Qt4, Lubuntu release date, Modular installer

[Mario Behling]

Dear all,

I would like to exchange with you some thoughts that came up in an
exchange with PCMan concerning using Mplayer, Qt4 and the release date
of lubuntu.

I agree with PCMan that we should get feedback from the community
first before releasing a stable lubuntu. The current lubuntu is
already quite good, but there will probably be some bugs that we dont
know, besides bugs that we know of e.g. in PCManFM. As PCMan is
working on a new version of the file manger, I hope we will be able to
include it.

Read on below.

- Mario

-- Forwarded message --
From: PCMan

Hi all
Clearly Mplayer has the best performance on old machines which are the
target of Lubuntu.
However, the usability of currently available mplayer GUI frontend are
quite problematic.
SMplayer, although being developed with Qt4, undoubtedly has quite
good usability compared with others. Qt4 is not a problem. It's
bigger, but it's not very big. Besides, there will be more and more
applications written in Qt4 in the future. Denying the use of Qt4 is
quite unwise, IMHO. If you can find something that are as good, feel
free to replace it. But the problem is, there isn't. The other usable
player should be VLC, which is also written in Qt4, too. Xine is yet
another solution, but it doesn't have good performance, and the
usability is not good, either. So it's good for nothing. Rather than
including something that is good for nothing, I'd rather include
something that at least give you good usability. This is the
rationale.

Another concern is, can we postpone the release of Lubuntu? Rather
than releasing something new but broken, I'd rather release it when
it's really ready. Give the users something that is half-done is not a
good way for marketing.
I'm confident that Lubuntu will be ready for everyday use at the time
of next Ubuntu LTS release. However, if we want to make it for 9.10,
we might end up with a broken distro that is problematic. IMHO,
keeping it in Alpha or Beta status is more preferable. Then just use
9.10 release to get enough feedback from the users. Things should be
ready in Q1, 2010. Then the next LTS will be the right time for first
official release of Lubuntu.

For application selection, I'd suggest creating a modular installer
and let the user choose what they want. This doesn't need to be
included in the Ubuntu installer. We can run a app selection wizard at
first-time startup. This can be the perfect solution for application
selection.

Any thoughts?

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] lubuntu-desktop package in Karmic Alpha 6

[Mario Behling]

Hi Julien,

this is fantastic news. So now this means we have until Oct. 29.

How does it work with the meta, design and settings package? Are they
included? Can we get them in?

I talked to some designers during the last days. We already have
designers contributing in the forum, I did not have time to set up a
design competition for the logo yet as I am traveling in Asia.

Would it be possible to change design and meta packages until the
release if we get them in as well? I mean the deadline 24 Sep. - what
does it refer to?

Cheers,

Mario


On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 2:13 AM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> For people who not monitors changes in Karmic, the lubuntu-desktop
> package was uploaded officially today on Karmic (see
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/karmic-changes/2009-September/008602.html )
>
> Please note that the apps list if not blocked, we can update the package
> before the official release of Ubuntu 9.10.
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
>

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Following IRC Meeting 2009-09-06

[Mario Behling]

Dear all,

please go to the page for the release management discussion and vote
for the way for release management.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReleaseManagementDiscussion

Some suggested to close the lubuntu team out of a worry that we could
run into commit wars, if there is no control. There was no problem
until now. At the moment the number of contributors actually working
on the code is relatively small, but we could potentially have
challenges with difficult team members in the future is the argument.
In order to have more people actually contributing we should define
diferent jobs that need to be done.

Concerning the closed/open team discussion there are three options now:

1. keep the way we work as is, observe how things go and decide when
there is an issue

2. decide to keep the team open and define policies to follow

3. decide to make a closed release team


With any choice we take now, we will still be able to get the seed
into the repository. There are so called MOTUs, who look if the seeds
and packages build. The responsibility what is in the seed is the
teams responsibility. So, the issue here is that we could avoid future
discussions, if someone does not stick to team decisions. In such
cases we would of course also have the ability to exclude people as
well.

Still, there is the fact, that other teams in Ubuntu work as closed
teams and according to Canonical members here, it would be an
advantage to have closed teams.

Please vote now on the page.

Thank you,

Mario


On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Julien Lavergne wrote:
> Hi,
>
> To follow the IRC meeting we had on September 06, I pasted the IRC log
> on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/IRC%20Meeting%20September%2006%2C%
> 202009
>
> One of the main discussion was the management of the release and the
> seeds. A specific page was set up on
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReleaseManagementDiscussion
>
> Another discussion was the artwork of the future Lubuntu 9.10. We will
> try to have specific settings and artwork for Lubuntu (different from
> LXDE).
>
> Also, to decide which artwork will be chosen, we decided that people can
> propose set of artwork, so the community can vote for the best artwork
> for the next release.
> Deadline for this :
> - Final proposals : September 18th
> - Final vote : September 22th
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne

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[Lubuntu-desktop] IRC Meet up #lubuntu @ freenode

[Mario Behling]

Dear all,

the meet up of the lubuntu group starts now.

Best,

Mario


Lubuntu IRC Meetup - 4

Agenda

* Discussion of separate release (development) team proposal
* Discussion of seed issues for Karmic
  o Should we get artwork merged into current seed for Karmic?
* Discussion for planning for next UDS
* Future schedule, whether we will have regular meetings and when
* Anything anyone wishes to add

Place

* IRC: irc.freenode.org
* Channel: #lubuntu
*

  Webchat link

Time

* Sunday, September 6, 2009
* Beginning: 23.00 Taipei, Singapore / Moscow 19:00 / 17.00 Berlin
/ 12:00 Rio de Janeiro / 11:00 New York / 14.00 UK
* End: 1.30 Taipei, Singapore / 21:30 Moscow / 19.30 Berlin /
14.30 Rio de Janeiro / 13.30 New York /16.30 UK

* 
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=6&month=9&year=2009&hour=15&min=0&sec=0&p1=0

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging]lubuntu desktop meta

[Mario Behling]

> Mario you wrote to meet on IRC freenode #lubuntu on Sep. 6, 15.00 GMT
> But the link you gave is for today the 5th of Sept @ 15.00 UTC.
> Great Britain/United Kingdom is one hour ahead of UTC during summer.
> Which gives us a meeting time of 14.00 local time here in the UK
> Could you please clarify which day the meeting is on Mario , today or
> tomorrow ?

sorry, yes the meeting is on 6th - tomorrow. We should let people know
about the meeting, including the Taiwan folks in advance. So, I think
it is best tomorrow. The link should be correct on the wiki:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/IRC_Meeting_September_6%2C_2009

For people participating, please also go through the logs of older
meet ups in order to avoid double discussions:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/IRC_Meeting

- Mario

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

[Mario Behling]

Hi,

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 11:13 PM, David Sugar wrote:
> Lol!  While I appreciate the vote of confidence, the goal was NEVER to
> have a dictatorship, benevolent or otherwise!

Thanks for making this clear. The goal for lubuntu was from the start
to build a strong and broad community, that can take care of tasks.
For example Debian packages that have been made available during
recent months by Andrew Lee and others were also planned and released
to lay the groundwork for lubuntu.

> I think what Scott says about some form of formalizing governance is
> actually very correct.

How should a formalizing governance look like? Is it necessary at this stage?

> However, the meta package (any meta-package
> instance) has a "snapshot" instance of the seed; it does not pull or re-
> germinate it when it builds.  Hence, as long as it is safe at the time
> of submission, a given update of the package will be safe, well, at
> least for the current one.  Also, we could setup a separate release
> subteam that is not open commit, and have it moved to there.  I think we
> should hold a quick IRC meeting in any case to ratify some basic
> governance...

I suggest to meet on IRC freenode #lubuntu
on Sep. 6, 15.00 GMT
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=5&month=9&year=2009&hour=15&min=0&sec=0&p1=0

Please help to set up an agenda:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/IRC_Meeting_September_6, 2009

Please also have a look at existing IRC meet ups to understand
decisions that have been made for reasons stated in previous meet up
logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/IRC_Meetings

- Mario

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

[Mario Behling]

Thank you for the input about the ISO that was tested. As stated the
ISO is not a final release. Some of the changes you suggested have
already been incorporated. Others will be as we go on. We will soon be
uploading a new test iso.

All the best,

Mario


On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 1:49 AM, hagisbasheruk wrote:
> i have been running LXDE from a cli install on my Tatung / RM – RTABB12D 
> using both a genkernel and a custom built onefor quite some time now.
> I suggest that you try to minimize any use of gnome libs as possible, use 
> slim instead of gdm, use Wicd for network as lxnw is too limited right 
> now,aumix-gtk for mixer and a program to add menu entries. I am currently 
> testing ubuntuone (we could bug them for a non gnome lib version, i am sure 
> the xfce guys would like that too) on my setup and can assure you its working 
> very well with pcman and lxpanel within Jaunty,be sure to set applet icon to 
> always show in prefs menu.Sorry if i am too late with my recommendations but 
> i only found out about Lubuntu today and downloaded the iso that was posted 
> instead of what i had planned to do, a re-master of my own 
> setup,unfortunately the kernel never booted for me.Anyway i would love to 
> help with testing and am free most nights after 6pm GMT catch me on 
> #ubuntu-uk if you require me
>
> --
> [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420513
> You received this bug notification because you are a member of Lubuntu,
> which is a direct subscriber.
>
> Status in Ubuntu: New
> Status in “pam” package in Debian: New
>
> Bug description:
> I have a preliminary seed and meta for this related to Karmic blueprint 
> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/mobile-karmic-lxde-ubuntu-desktop
>  and this should get uploaded to revu later today.
>

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

[Mario Behling]

Hi,

I like those designs, but I am not decided which way I like most. I
think we can also gather more design suggestions and it is always
easier to see, than to hear how something looks like.

Fedora created an adapted them for the LXDE spin. Openbox is just one
part, we also need to create athe theme in LXAppearance. There is no
general config file - it is actual designed this way currently, as
there is no other lightweight solution yet.

Generally would be good to get closer to the LXDE blue. Lets also try
to find something that looks light. UbuntuHuman looks somewhat heavy I
feel.

The forum for lubuntu designs is open here:
http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=437

Best,

- Mario


2009/8/31 Martin-Éric Racine :
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Mario Behling wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> enclosed a few desktop backgrounds and images I collected from the
>> lubuntu designer forum at the lxde website.
>>
>> Please include.
>
> I personally like the all-blue background with the bubbly logo best.
> I'd however omit the LXDE logo from the Ubuntu circle, since it looks
> like some creepy insect. Instead, I'd focus on this nearly translucent
> bubbly Ubuntu circle and adopt that as our logo, for the boot splash,
> desktop background and Start menu icon.
>
> FWIW, here, I've been using an orange and grey theme on my desktop. If
> you look at the default themes that come with OpenBox, there's one
> with orangeish window title bars that look very Ubuntu-Human friendly.
> Combining this with some greyscale version of the bubbly Ubuntu
> circle, we'd have ourselves some really cool Lubuntu style: Ubuntu
> orange with LXDE grey and blue. We could use those 3 colors as our
> primaries for our version of the Ubuntu circle logo and as our colors
> for the default desktop theme, in combination with the Ubuntu Human
> icon theme.
>
> How does that sound?

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

[Mario Behling]

Dear all,

enclosed a few desktop backgrounds and images I collected from the
lubuntu designer forum at the lxde website.

Please include.

Best,

Mario


** Attachment added: "lubuntu-design.zip"
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/31051972/lubuntu-design.zip

-- 
[needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420513
You received this bug notification because you are a member of Lubuntu,
which is a direct subscriber.

Status in Ubuntu: In Progress

Bug description:
I have a preliminary seed and meta for this related to Karmic blueprint 
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/mobile-karmic-lxde-ubuntu-desktop 
and this should get uploaded to revu later today.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

[Mario Behling]

Dear all,

lynxis has put together a lubuntu-iso to test:

http://lynxis.crew.c-base.org

All the best,

Mario



2009/8/31 Martin-Éric Racine :
> On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 11:09 PM, Julien
> Lavergne wrote:
>> @Martin-Éric
>> An exception is only necessary for the first inclusion of the package. 
>> Adjusting dependencies (default applications) can be made without exceptions 
>> (unless most of applications changed).
>
> Ah, that's good to hear.
>
>> IMO, another lubuntu package is not necessary, because there is already
>> lxde meta-packages which pull LXDE components (see lxde-common source
>> package). If we are not happy with this, we could modify it to include
>> packages we want, instead of splitting the seed.
>
> Actually, we at least need a separate theme package. Personally, I
> don't care for most of the default applications currently included, so
>  I'd rather install some meta-package that pulls a theme and sets it
> as the default, in addition to pulling core LXDE packages.
>
> Is there any way I could branch the seed and propose changes to that
> via a branch, before the team agrees on what the meta-package will be
> and makes a first upload?
>

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

[Mario Behling]

Hi,

lubuntu and lubuntu karmic seeds are here:
https://code.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop

Best,

Mario


2009/8/29 Martin-Éric Racine :
> Under which package name can we see those packages?
>
> --
> [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420513
> You received this bug notification because you are a member of Lubuntu,
> which is a direct subscriber.
>
> Status in Ubuntu: In Progress
>
> Bug description:
> I have a preliminary seed and meta for this related to Karmic blueprint 
> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/mobile-karmic-lxde-ubuntu-desktop
>  and this should get uploaded to revu later today.
>

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] issues everyone is having with apps lists

[Mario Behling]

Hi Dave,

I completely agree with your statements. We set our goal. We need to
talk about how to achieve this goal and pursue this way. It makes
things rather difficult if we start to talk over the goal and
different ideas again and again.

The goal of LXDE is to keep things simple and fast. At the same time
LXDE offers just what many users need. Lets make a complete distro
based on this idea.

I think as the summer holidays is getting to an end we will see this
project becoming more active again and actually getting things done.

All the best,

Mario



On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 3:53 AM, dave slaughter wrote:
> Ok, I realize that I have not been participating as  much as I should be, as
> I am one the eoriginal members of the Lubuntu Team, but there is a reason
> for this, and the recent posts have pointed it out, compelling me to post
> this.
> I was really happy and excited when more and more people started showing up,
> and joining the team to get this project really moving. But as time went on,
> more and more people were saying how this had to be "ultra light" and use
> "the least amount of resources", but it seems that the more ideas people
> had, the more they seem to have forgotten what the project started as,
> "Lubuntu", as in, an Ubuntu derivative, and  the goal was to have this
> become an official 'Buntu, which would mean it has to be noob friendly, and
> very easy to use, which means having things like GUI configuration tools,
> and an easy to use web browser, like Firefox. At one of the meetings someone
> said the update manager should not be included, and that users could just
> use the console to update, how would this be in line with the rest of the
> 'Buntu's? The goal of Ubuntu was to be very easy to use for the newest of
> users, and bring Linux to the masses, but at every meeting people were
> saying things like, "the user can install (insert basic program here) if
> they want it", or, "a gui tool to configure the desktop is not necessary  as
> you can just edit the config file". How would a new user know how to do
> this? We have to remember that we are not building a distro for the
> experienced, or even casual Linux user, we are build for the newest of
> users, the Ubuntu crowd, who have decided that they have heard so much good
> things about how easy it is to use, that they decided that maybe it was time
> to give Linux a try.
> I think we all need to remember what Ubutnu is, and really think about it,
> cause we are not building a distro for "us", we are building it for "them".
> And if it not as easy to use as all the rest of the Ubuntu's, Canonical will
> never let this be an official 'Buntu.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: lubuntu development model - Seeds vs UCK

[Mario Behling]

Hello,

yes, I agree. Seeds is the way to go.

Best,

Mario

On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 7:00 PM, jon york wrote:
> Should we not stick with seeds if that is what ubuntu uses? seems to me
> seeds is an easier way to maintain long term sustainability and no "oops, i
> forgot to add this in UCK" ive used UCK and Uck-like methods for remasters,
> and its a pain when you forget something. However, with seeds, it seems like
> it would lessen then risk of getting oopses.
>
> Jon York
>
>
>
>> From: gbiz...@gmail.com
>> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 16:47:41 -0300
>> To: elf...@yahoo.com
>> CC: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
>> Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: lubuntu development model - Seeds vs
>> UCK
>>
>> In viewing the DEMO of reconstructor 3.0, it looks like it will do a
>> shared project, and it looks web based???
>>
>> Glen
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 4:08 AM, Luther Goh Lu Feng
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > For anyone interested in creating the builds, you may wish to refer to
>> > the forwarded email.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > - Forwarded Message 
>> >> From: Mario Behling 
>> >> To: Lubuntu 
>> >> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 6:00:54 AM
>> >> Subject: [Lubuntu-desktop] lubuntu development model - Seeds vs UCK
>> >>
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >> we had a talk among different people about a good model for building
>> >> the lubuntu distribution. A sustainable model suggested by some is the
>> >> Seed model practiced by the Xubuntu developers.
>> >>
>> >> There are solutions like Ubuntu Customization Kid
>> >> (http://uck.sourceforge.net´) and Reconstructor
>> >> (http://reconstructor.aperantis.com) out there. However, they have
>> >> some drawbacks and I am not sure how we can build a model to include
>> >> different people in the process.
>> >>
>> >> I see the seeds model as a viable way to make lubuntu sustainable.
>> >> There is a wiki page on the kubuntu wiki with more information:
>> >>
>> >> Seeds are the lists of packages we want to include in the
>> >> distribution. The minimal, boot, standard, desktop, and either ship or
>> >> live seeds go onto our CDs. Xubuntu seeds, being built on top of
>> >> Ubuntu, inherit a shared set of seeds called the "platform" seeds.
>> >> These platform seeds are maintained by Ubuntu Core Developers whereas
>> >> the Xubuntu seeds are primarily taken care of by Xubuntu developers.
>> >> Xubuntu seeds (as with all Ubuntu flavors) manage their seeds using
>> >> the bazaar revision control system and host them on launchpad (build
>> >> scripts pull the official seeds to build the cd).
>> >> (https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Xubuntu/Development/Build)
>> >>
>> >> More information on Seed Management here
>> >> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SeedManagement.
>> >>
>> >> What do you think about it?
>> >>
>> >> Best,
>> >>
>> >> Mario
>> >>
>> >>

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Personal testing.

[Mario Behling]

Hi Dallas,

thanks for the info. Please post you ongoing experience here.

All the best,

Mario

On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Dallas Wiebelhaus wrote:
> I have both successfully built both a "Full featured" Desktop and a
> "Minimalist Base install" but not without issues.
>
> First being native network browsing , Pcfileman is unable to do this without
> manually mounting the shares via the CLI. Maybe a script master could work
> something up?
>
> Second being without nautilus dependencies Dropbox nor Ubuntu One will work.
> (Which for me is a must and I'm sure it is for others)
>
> Now I have verified that Brasero no longer requires Gnome dependencies so
> that may be an option for burning functionalities.
>
> Also both Open Office and Abiword work fine but with Abiword performing
> better , Open Office performance is acceptable , Experience may vary
> depending on system specifications , But honestly pretty much every thing
> performs great on this DE.
>
> If anyone would be kind enough to either educate me or help solve these
> issues , I'll keep working on it.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Also on temp msgboard here:
> http://lubuntu.forumotion.com/bundled-software-f1/update-on-personal-testing-t9.htm#23

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Next IRC meeting

[Mario Behling]

Hi,

at the moment, there is enough to catch up before we need to make
another IRC meeting. We need to sort the list of the applications we
want and make a test-ISO.

-- Mario

On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 2:39 AM, C David Rigby wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> Just to make sure I've not missed the announcement: has another IRC
> meeting been scheduled?
>
> I am working my way through the logs now...
>
> Cheers
> CDR
>

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy & Slow)

[Mario Behling]

Hello everyone,

it is fantastic to see people are joining and have lots of ideas. We
had IRC meet ups in order to have a less time-consuming way to talk to
each other. PCMan and others of the LXDE team took part in those
meetings. Besides that during recent months, we have met up among some
people in person for example in Singapore, Taiwan and Germany.

About applications - decisions are not final, but we had (and have) a
fair bit of discussion about it already.

I believe much depends on the goal we aim for. As I have been around
emerging countries during last years, I developed an idea about what
would be a nice thing to have in those countries. I believe lubuntu
can be a good thing for many people. We need to keep it lightweight,
but at the same time include essential features (that work for the
user group we aim for).

Internet bandwidth in countries like Afghanistan or in African
countries is often very low. So, we need to consider this. Some people
say "you can just download and install applications on top of a
minimum install", in regions with limited bandwidth this is not an
option.

In regards to mobile devices and architectures like ARM and Mips, we
also have to think that new netbooks and other devices are coming out.
They often have low resolutions. I recently saw a netbook with 800x420
screen resolution in China.

So, I think talking about the goal of the distribution is the first
thing to consider and the second step is to talk about single
applications. If an applications fulfills goals well, but at a later
point another application fulfills our goals better, we can switch.

The question now: What is the goal of lubuntu for you? Do you suggest
something else?

All the best,

Mario


On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Luther Goh Lu Feng wrote:
> Just in case, there was any miscommunication, the list just contain possible
> candidates for the application category. For instance, in the web browser
> category, we have midori, epiphany, firefox, kazhakase and some others. But
> we will only choose one, and based on the meetings, we have chosen Firefox
> for functionality and usability reasons. Unfortunately, the meeting members
> haven't gotten around to updating the decision on the choice of
> applications. It's pretty much buried in the logs now AFAIK.
>
> Maybe Mario can give some input as to how we should progress with regards to
> the decision on applications?
>
> From: Ed Hewitt 
> To: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
> Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 1:54:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy &
> Slow)
>
> I too have the same opinion and in the same situation as Glen. I have missed
> out on the meetings, since only being involved in Lubuntu since yesterday. I
> have looked at the applications list and there is too many, Lubuntu could
> end up too heavy. This is one of the reasons I sent my first email off in
> the mailing lists.
>
> 2009/7/1 Glen Bizeau 
>>
>> Wow,
>>
>> I just went through the list if apps, Thats a lot of stuff...
>>
>> Personally, I think it should be lighter than this, but I guess thats
>> what I get for missing the IRC meeting :)
>>
>> Will we have a chance to vote on these things? or do the IRC meetings
>> denote final say?
>>
>> Glen
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:03 AM, Luther Goh Lu Feng
>> wrote:
>> > Hi everyone,
>> >
>> > Good to see the sudden spike in mailing list activity. I definitely need
>> > time to follow the threads.
>> >
>> > For those unaware, we have had 3 IRC meetings to discuss the goals and
>> > applications of Lubuntu. The logs are at
>> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/IRC%20Meetings. The objective of the
>> > meeting
>> > was to narrow down the list of applications, and also to decide the
>> > goals of
>> > Lubuntu I urge patience to go through the logs to understand what has
>> > transpired so far.
>> >
>> > I believe the goals of Lubuntu that was decided during that meeting is
>> > that
>> > Lubuntu will be a lightweight distro with appropriate functionality and
>> > usability. (Yes, I know that functionality and usability have subjective
>> > meaning).
>> >
>> > The list of applications at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Applications
>> > are
>> > just a list of applications we will choose for inclusion. Generally,
>> > only
>> > one will be included from each application category.
>> >
>> > At the meeting, members have decided to include Firefox, OpenOffice.org,
>> > VLC
>> > I am not sure if there will be changes following the discussion on the
>> > mailing list. Perhaps this can be discussed in the next IRC meeting?
>> >
>> > From: Ed Hewitt 
>> > To: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 12:13:47 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy
>> > &
>> > Slow)
>> >
>> > I would say LXDE is lighter than Xfce, the LXDE developers seem to think
>> > so.
>> > I think 64mb Minimum is enough.
>> >
>> > 2009/6/30 Andrew Woodhead 
>> >>
>> 

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] U-Lite

[Mario Behling]

Hi,

there was a discussion about U-lite already. With lubuntu we have a
chance to bring together people working / who have worked on different
derivates. Also notable is Mint.

We are very happy that Shae of U-lite is also a member of lubuntu.

-- Mario


On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 1:46 AM, Dallas Wiebelhaus wrote:
> For some reason I had forgotten that U-Lite was using LXDE , I thought they
> were using XFCE , maybe because of the recent alpha screenshots.
>
> I just want to make sure that the Lubuntu people are Aware of U-Lite are
> these two projects related or completely separate?
>
> http://u-lite.org/
>

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Reminder: lubuntu meet up in 30 mins at freenode #lubuntu

[Mario Behling]

Dear all,

as a short reminder. We will have an IRC meeting in half an hour about
lubuntu applications.

Hope to see you there.

All the best,

Mario
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Lubuntu IRC Meetup - 3

Topic Which Applications do we include in lubuntu?
 * Applications for lubuntu:
  a) LXDE Components (Done)
  b) Applications and System Tools  (Done)
  c) Games (to be decided later)
  d) Graphics (Done partly)
  e) Multimedia (Done partly)
  --
  f) Internet
  g) Office
  h) Accessories

Place

 * IRC: irc.freenode.org
 * Channel: #lubuntu

Time

 * Sunday, June 28, 2009
 * Beginning: 23.00 Taipei, Singapore / Moscow 19:00 / 17.00 Berlin /
12:00 Rio de Janeiro / 11:00 New York
 * End: 1.00 Taipei, Singapore / 21:00 Moscow / 19.00 Berlin / 14.00
Rio de Janeiro / 13.00 New York
* 
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=28&month=6&year=2009&hour=23&min=0&sec=0&p1=241

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[Lubuntu-desktop] lubuntu development model - Seeds vs UCK

[Mario Behling]

Hello,

we had a talk among different people about a good model for building
the lubuntu distribution. A sustainable model suggested by some is the
Seed model practiced by the Xubuntu developers.

There are solutions like Ubuntu Customization Kid
(http://uck.sourceforge.net´) and Reconstructor
(http://reconstructor.aperantis.com) out there. However, they have
some drawbacks and I am not sure how we can build a model to include
different people in the process.

I see the seeds model as a viable way to make lubuntu sustainable.
There is a wiki page on the kubuntu wiki with more information:

Seeds are the lists of packages we want to include in the
distribution. The minimal, boot, standard, desktop, and either ship or
live seeds go onto our CDs. Xubuntu seeds, being built on top of
Ubuntu, inherit a shared set of seeds called the "platform" seeds.
These platform seeds are maintained by Ubuntu Core Developers whereas
the Xubuntu seeds are primarily taken care of by Xubuntu developers.
Xubuntu seeds (as with all Ubuntu flavors) manage their seeds using
the bazaar revision control system and host them on launchpad (build
scripts pull the official seeds to build the cd).
(https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Xubuntu/Development/Build)

More information on Seed Management here
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SeedManagement.

What do you think about it?

Best,

Mario

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[Lubuntu-desktop] lubuntu irc meet up - 3 / Su 28 June, Freenode #lubuntu, 23.00 Taipei, Singapore / Moscow 19:00 / 17.00 Berlin / 12:00 Rio de Janeiro / 11:00 New York

[Mario Behling]

Dear all,

we had the second IRC meet up of the lubuntu group today and we are
progressing very well. We will meet up again on Sunday 28, 2009. Logs
of IRC meet ups are available here
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/IRC%20Meetings.

Details for the upcoming meet up are below.

All the best,

Mario



Lubuntu IRC Meetup - 3

Topic Which Applications do we include in lubuntu?
 * Applications for lubuntu:
   a) LXDE Components (Done)
   b) Applications and System Tools  (Done)
   c) Games (to be decided later)
   d) Graphics (Done)
   e) Multimedia (Done)
   --
   f) Internet
   g) Office
   h) Accessories

Place

 * IRC: irc.freenode.org
 * Channel: #lubuntu

Time

 * Sunday, June 28, 2009
 * Beginning: 23.00 Taipei, Singapore / Moscow 19:00 / 17.00 Berlin /
12:00 Rio de Janeiro / 11:00 New York
 * End: 1.00 Taipei, Singapore / 21:00 Moscow / 19.00 Berlin / 14.00
Rio de Janeiro / 13.00 New York
* 
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=28&month=6&year=2009&hour=23&min=0&sec=0&p1=241

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[Lubuntu-desktop] lubuntu irc meet up - 2 / Su 21 June, Freenode #lubuntu, 23.00 Taipei, Singapore / Moscow 19:00 / 17.00 Berlin / 12:00 Rio de Janeiro / 11:00 New York

[Mario Behling]

Dear all,

the first lubuntu IRC Meet up was very successful. 21 people
participated. We had a lively discussion and got some good results to
start with.

The main question of the meet up was: Which packages do we include in
lubuntu? We already covered LXDE Components and System Tools. The
complete log of the meet up is here
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/IRC_Meetings.

The next meet up will be tomorrow on Sunday at the same time. More
infos are below. I am looking forward to see you there.

All the best,

Mario

-

Lubuntu IRC Meetup

Topic Which Applications do we include in lubuntu?
  * Applications for lubuntu:
a) LXDE Components (Done)
b) Applications and System Tools  (Done)
--
c) Games
d) Graphics
e) Multimedia
f) Internet
g) Office
h) Accessories

Place

  * IRC: irc.freenode.org
  * Channel: #lubuntu

Time

  * Sunday, June 21, 2009
  * Beginning: 23.00 Taipei, Singapore / Moscow 19:00 / 17.00 Berlin
/ 12:00 Rio de Janeiro / 11:00 New York
  * End: 1.00 Taipei, Singapore / 21:00 Moscow / 19.00 Berlin /
14.00 Rio de Janeiro / 13.00 New York

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=21&month=6&year=2009&hour=23&min=0&sec=0&p1=241

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[Lubuntu-desktop] lubuntu IRC meet up, irc.freenode.org, #lubuntu, Friday 19, 23.00 Taipei, Singapore / Moscow 19:00 / 17.00 Berlin 12:00 Rio de Janeiro / 11:00 New York

[Mario Behling]

Dear all,

many people have joined Lubuntu in recent weeks. The discussion which
applications to include took mainly part in the wiki till now. It is
time to take decisions. So, we are scheduling a first IRC meetup to
decide which applications to include in lubuntu. Please join us at the
lubuntu channel on freenode on Friday 19.

More details below.

All the best,

Mario


Lubuntu IRC Meetup

Topic
Which Applications do we include in lubuntu?

Place
* IRC: irc.freenode.org
* Channel: #lubuntu

Time
* Friday, June 19, 2009
* Beginning: 23.00 Taipei, Singapore / Moscow 19:00 / 17.00 Berlin
12:00 Rio de Janeiro / 11:00 New York
* End: 1.00 Taipei, Singapore / 21:00 Moscow / 19.00 Berlin / 14.00
Rio de Janeiro / 13.00 New York
* 
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=19&month=6&year=2009&hour=23&min=0&sec=0&p1=241

Links
* https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/
* https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Applications

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Packaging List

[Mario Behling]

Hi,

some ways to start are here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete

It is always a good idea to connect to open source contributors in your city.
It is often difficult to teach people things online and time of people
is limited. Check for a Linux User group, Open Source group,
university groups or something similar in search engines.

It would be great to have a number of local groups of people helping each other.

Best,

Mario


On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Payne Samad Loh  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm not familiar with coding & packaging and I would like to learn and know
> more about it.
> How and where should I start? are there any mentoring available for this?
>
> Payne
>
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> OS - Linux Xubuntu 9.04 / LXDE
>
> ________
> From: Mario Behling 
> To: dave slaughter 
> Cc: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 16:41:53
> Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Packaging List
>
> Hello Dave,
>
> great to see you back with lots of energy!
>
> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 1:40 AM, dave slaughter
>  wrote:
>> I noticed that the wiki has been changed, and it looks great, but where
>> did
>> the package list go? I am beginning to start work on the base disk that I
>> am
>> going to use for building the development iso,
>
> I am looking forward to this.
>
>> and could use that list for
>> packages to include. If someone could point me in the right direction of
>> where it may be, it would help greatly.
>
> David did already.. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Applications (I
> made it clearer at the Lubuntu wiki start page now, I hope.)
>
> Dave. it would be good if we could have a brainstorming together as
> well how we can involve more people in the actual ISO making process.
> Maybe you have some links to "How Tos" which document your steps.
>
> Could you add your name to the Subteams page here
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams ?
>
> And would it be possible to document your steps for newcomers (very
> briefly) here
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/CodingAndPackagingSubTeam
> ?
>
>> Thanks,
>> Dave
>
> Many thanks to you,
>
> Mario
>

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Packaging List

[Mario Behling]

Hello Dave,

great to see you back with lots of energy!

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 1:40 AM, dave slaughter
 wrote:
> I noticed that the wiki has been changed, and it looks great, but where did
> the package list go? I am beginning to start work on the base disk that I am
> going to use for building the development iso,

I am looking forward to this.

> and could use that list for
> packages to include. If someone could point me in the right direction of
> where it may be, it would help greatly.

David did already.. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Applications (I
made it clearer at the Lubuntu wiki start page now, I hope.)

Dave. it would be good if we could have a brainstorming together as
well how we can involve more people in the actual ISO making process.
Maybe you have some links to "How Tos" which document your steps.

Could you add your name to the Subteams page here
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams ?

And would it be possible to document your steps for newcomers (very
briefly) here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/CodingAndPackagingSubTeam
?

> Thanks,
> Dave

Many thanks to you,

Mario

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Wiki reorganized. Please rejoin applications discussion at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Applications

[Mario Behling]

Dear all,

The wiki has been reorganized. Thank you to David and Luther! The
start page became quite long and it seemed appropriate to seperate
content in different pages.

* The start page remains: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu

* The discussion about applications is now here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Applications
Please join the discussion about lubuntu applications and subscribe to
the page changes.

* The overview of members is now here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams
As a member and contributor to Lubuntu, please add your name to the
Subteam's pages. There are links to subteams coordination pages. We
can use those to coordinate the work among members.

It has been astounding to see the increase of members in the lubuntu
team. I am looking forward to everyone getting more involved.

All the best,

Mario

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu wiki revision ready for review

[Mario Behling]

Hi,

thanks for your good work. I changed it a bit before switching it
over. For the moment I would like to keep the dicussion about
applications to include on one page. So we can minimize clicks to
discuss. We can change it after the discussion is finished.

I copied it on one page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Applications

Best,

Mario

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:13 PM, C David Rigby  wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-05-27 at 09:09 -0700, Luther Goh Lu Feng wrote:
>>
>>
>> --- On Wed, 5/27/09, C David Rigby  wrote:
>>
>> > From: C David Rigby 
>> > Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu wiki revision ready for review
>> > To: "Lubuntu Project" 
>> > Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 8:10 AM
>> > On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 13:47 +0100,
>> > Mario Behling wrote:
>> > > Dear David,
>> > >
>> > > thanks a lot. It looks great.
>> > >
>> > > I think, we could replace it immediately. It is not
>> > such a big
>> > > decision, I believe. If anyone objects or would like
>> > to change, please
>> > > tell us.
>> > >
>> > > As the active team is still relatively small - just
>> > one question
>> > > concerning Subteams. Do we need already an extra page
>> > for each subteam
>> > > at this point? It might be still ok at this point to
>> > have the teams
>> > > and tasks still in one page. There are always pros and
>> > cons (I know
>> > > them). Just decide what seems best to you now. I dont
>> > see a special
>> > > need for an extra translations team at that point, as
>> > LXDE has its own
>> > > translation project.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks again for the set up.
>> > >
>> > > Please switch to it.
>> > >
>> > > All the best,
>> > >
>> > > Mario
>> > >
>> >
>> > OK - I will switch it over.
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> > CDR
>> > >
>>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> I have taken the liberty to synchronise the recent changes to 
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ at 
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/LubuntuFirstBis
>>
>> Please check that everything is in order before switching 
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/LubuntuFirstBis over.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Luther
>>
>>
>>
>
> Hello Luther,
>
> Thanks for taking care of that. I was just sitting down to do that this
> AM when I noted that you did it, and that Mario had switched the root
> page to the new version.
>
> Heh. All my work done for me while I slept! (8->
>
> Cheers
> CDR
>

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Nominate LXDE for the Community Choice Awards 2009 till May 29

[Mario Behling]

Dear all,

currently projects can be nominated for the Community Choice Awards
2009 till May 29, 2009. I wrote an article on the LXDE blog
(http://blog.lxde.org/?p=341 see below), why I think LXDE should get
an award. If you like LXDE, the community and the goals, please
consider nominating the project.

We are continuously working on improving LXDE, making it a faster and
running well on energy efficient devices as well as making it easier
to use.

I am looking forward to keeping in touch with you. We always welcome
new members of the community.

Thank you for your support,

Mario

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Please nominate LXDE for the Community Choice Awards 2009 till May 29,
2009: 
https://sourceforge.net/community/cca09/nominate/?project_name=LXDE+-+Lightweight+X+Desktop+Environment&project_url=http%3A%2F%2Fsourceforge.net%2Fprojects%2Flxde%2F

LXDE was started already in 2005 in Taiwan and has spread all over the
world. During the last year the project made big advances. New
components have been added and older ones were updated. We have formed
a viable translation project with people translating components from
Peru to Egypt to Japan to Germany and all around the globe. LXDE is
now included in many Linux distros, was ported to Google Android, has
been shown to work on BSD, and was established as a Desktop Project
for OpenSolaris.

During my recent travel to China I discovered that many of the small
Chinese hardware producers customize LXDE and use it on their devices.
LXDE offers new business opportunities for these producers. I have
received many emails of people using LXDE like in whole universities
in Brazil.

Please tell us your story how you use LXDE or participate in the
project and please show your support for LXDE and the growing
community by nominating the project for the community choice awards
2009. The LXDE project is still a project of a small community, but
looking to who is participating, we already achieved to form a truly
international project, which inspires me to continue supporting the
project and freely licensed Open Source projects in general.

The message of LXDE: International Free and Open Source development
across cultures and regions works! Faster, more lightweight and energy
efficient systems are possible!

There are many projects that deserve to get this awards. I certainly
believe LXDE should be one of them. I nominated LXDE for:

* Best Project
* Best Commercial Open Source Project
* Most Likely to Change The Way You do Everything

Please join us. Thank you for your support!

Important Dates

* May 6 - Nominations open
* May 29 - Nominations close
* June 22 - Finalists announced, voting opens
* July 20 - Voting closes
* July 23 - Winners are announced at OSCON

Links
* https://sourceforge.net/community/cca09/
* 
https://sourceforge.net/community/cca09/nominate/?project_name=LXDE+-+Lightweight+X+Desktop+Environment&project_url=http%3A%2F%2Fsourceforge.net%2Fprojects%2Flxde%2F
* http://lxde.org
* http://sourceforge.net/projects/lxde/

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Sorry for absence, will be starting ISO soon

[Mario Behling]

Hi Dave,

please, no need to apologize for taking your time to care about your
family. It is great to know that everything went fine with the birth
of your baby. Congratulations and all the best for your family! What
is the name of your daughter or son?

Concerning lubuntu, a few people are working on new deb packages that
we would like to get, namely Andrew Lee. Also other people are getting
involved. We need to improve the team communication here I guess. I am
thinking about it and encourage contributors to use the mailing list
as well.

We need to test the new packages with Ubuntu when they are ready to be
tested. Then we can get lubuntu going. Different people left their
ideas on the wiki page (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu). I think it
would be best to have an chat on IRC soon to finalize decisions on
packages to include together.

We also had some people working on artwork. We need to get a team
going, that talks to each other here as well. I received some private
mails with great ideas already.

Seems like things are getting started.

Thanks to everyone!

All the best,

Mario


On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 6:40 PM, dave slaughter
 wrote:
>
> Hi all, I want to apologize for my absence as of late, I had a baby on May 
> 11th. So I have been rather busy with all the things that a new baby brings.
> As for the ISO, I am going to go over the list of things, and start working 
> on it this week. I think I am going to have start out making a remaster from 
> a mini.iso install with all the apps that ppl want, and then use that ISO to 
> build from with reconstrutor, as the I cannot get reconstructor to see the 
> mini.iso as a valid install media.
>
> Robin said,
> "I read that Linux Mint is very quickly developing their own LXDE-based 
> "community edition." Mint is always a few months behind Ubuntu - so wouldn't 
> it be a hoot if they release their own LXDE distro before we get ours done! 
> "
> and that is kind of funny that you say that, as I am the developer of the 
> LinuxMint LXDE CE, (yes, I am McLovin), so, the odds of it being released 
> first, are fairly low, maybe simultaneously. I am planning on using the 
> Lubuntu iso as a base for it, so it in my best interest to get crackin on 
> Lubuntu,
>
> Again, I want to apologize, I was not flaking out, just had life issues to 
> deal with.
>
> Dave
>

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Another Lubuntu Question

[Mario Behling]

Hi Robin,

there are numerous distros coming with LXDE as default. See here
http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Category:Linux_Distributions I added MoonOS a
couple of weeks ago myself. I have not tried it. It is also a new
project.

Distros have different advantages and focus. Besides the goal of
lightweightness and simplicity, one focus of lubuntu is to bringt
together a viable and sustainable community. This will take time, but
we are not pressed. (However it would be nice to have a first version
asap.)

I believe any effort we are doing with lubuntu can help different
distros based on Ubuntu. Currently the number of people working on
packages is rather small for example. We could change that a bit I
hope. Also there is an additional focus to make a distro run on ARM
and Mips. How the progress and work will look like depends on the
people involved.

Having an initial statement of Canonical and some people actually
working for Canonical in the team makes me confident that we work on a
viable project, that has the potential to become an official Ubuntu
derivate with the goals defined. There is no official statement about
this though, just informal meetings and chats.

About Mint, it is also a good choice. Would be great if we could join
up with many different projects.

All the best,

Mario


On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Robin  wrote:
>
> I have added my name to the project (Robin Arnaud) as you suggested. I have
> a question which may not be appropriate for the Wiki:
>
> There is already an LXDE distro based on Ubuntu Intrepid which you may know
> about already, called MoonOS. It is elegant and beautiful. Are we
> "re-inventing the wheel" here? Can't we or shouldn't we examine that
> distro's progress as a clue of what to expect from Lubuntu?
>
> I tried several times to install and run Shae Smitte's "U-Lite" distro, but
> it was such an exercise in frustration that I finally gave up on it. I like
> Shae. We've even corresponded a little. But in the back of my mind I worry
> that Lubuntu could be a repeat of my U-Lite experience - very buggy, hours
> to find up-to-date repositories, unsuccessful update attempts, etc.
>
> I'm currently running Ubuntu Jaunty with LXDE installed and the Ubuntu
> desktop purged (using "apt-get purge ubuntu-desktop"). It's pretty much
> trouble free.
>
> I read that Linux Mint is very quickly developing their own LXDE-based
> "community edition." Mint is always a few months behind Ubuntu - so wouldn't
> it be a hoot if they release their own LXDE distro before we get ours done!
> 
>
> Thanks,
> Robin

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu wiki revision ready for review

[Mario Behling]

Dear David,

thanks a lot. It looks great.

I think, we could replace it immediately. It is not such a big
decision, I believe. If anyone objects or would like to change, please
tell us.

As the active team is still relatively small - just one question
concerning Subteams. Do we need already an extra page for each subteam
at this point? It might be still ok at this point to have the teams
and tasks still in one page. There are always pros and cons (I know
them). Just decide what seems best to you now. I dont see a special
need for an extra translations team at that point, as LXDE has its own
translation project.

Thanks again for the set up.

Please switch to it.

All the best,

Mario


On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 1:35 PM, C David Rigby  wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> The draft restructuring of the Lubuntu pages on the Ubuntu wiki are
> ready for your review. Please have a look, check the links, kick the
> tires, etc. Please send error reports or other comments back to this
> mailing list. You can fix things yourself too, of course. It's a wiki.
>
> Once we are happy with it, the page linked below (or whatever the final
> draft is) will replace the current https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu main
> page.
>
> Please start here:
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/LubuntuFirstBis
>
> Regards & Thanks for your comments,
> CDR
>
>

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Sign Me Up for Testing

[Mario Behling]

Hello Robin,

great to have you in the team and reading your email with big enthusiasm.

Lubuntu is a volunteer project and we should get together to decide
who can do which tasks. Please add your name to the team at
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu. There will be a seperate team page
soon as well. David is working on that.

Everything is work in progress :-)

All the best,

Mario


On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 12:05 AM, Robin  wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I would love to be a tester when y'all are ready to test-drive Lubuntu.
> I am a very recent "convert" to Ubuntu, having known only WinXP until
> just under two months ago. But I have already learned a lot...
>
> I successfully resurrected an old low-resource computer that my family
> had given up for dead, using the very minimalist Ubuntu-based distro
> called Crunchbang Linux (http://crunchbanglinux.org), but added the LXDE
> desktop environment to it for a pretty, "Windowsy" look that would fool
> my family. It did! They didn't even know they were using Linux until I
> told them. Until then they congratulated me on making that old computer
> run faster than ever.
>
> That experiment and the happy result has me very excited about the new
> Lubuntu project. I am very hopeful that Lubuntu will not end up as heavy
> and bloated as I have heard that Xubuntu has become.
>
> I'm too new to do much other than test, but I'm excited to do it and
> happy to be part of this team.
>
> Thanks,
> Robin Arnaud
> Ocala, Florida
>
> "dixiedancer" on Launchpad
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Possible "Bug?"

[Mario Behling]

Hello Payne,

thanks a lot for your details about the LXDE installation!

There will probably more questions coming up. Great to have you in the team!

All the best,

Mario


On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 2:12 AM, Payne Samad Loh  wrote:
>
>  I don't recall about how I fixed it on my computer, but the last thing I
> remember was I did install ffmpeg & Winff on my computer. The sound is not
> muted by default anymore when booted. To install ffmpeg & winff type the
> command below in terminal.
>
> sudo apt-get install ffmpeg winff
>
>
> I think it got something to do with libavcodec-unstripped-51,
> libavutil-unstripped-49 and libavformat-unstripped-52
> u can look for them directly from multiverse respository
>
>
> this email was  sent using Arora 0.6 Lightweight WebKit-based web browser
> OS - Linux Xubuntu 9.04 / LXDE
>
>
> 
> From: Robin 
> To: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
> Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 6:47:22
> Subject: [Lubuntu-desktop] Possible "Bug?"
>
>
> This may be a "bug," albeit certainly premature. Nevertheless it's one the
> team should be aware of:
>
> I have installed LXDE on my copy of Ubuntu Jaunty. It's awesome in every
> respect except for one continuing issue: The sound is muted right after
> bootup and I must manually un-mute it - every time I boot up. Perhaps it's
> an Alsa issue, but the few fixes suggested in both Ubuntu forums and LXDE
> forums haven't worked.
>
> Again, I realize it's premature to "report a bug" since I'm not running
> "Lubuntu" yet (but I'd love to test it when it's ready!). I offer it as an
> early "heads up" that may appear.
>
> Happy to be part of this awesome project idea,
> Robin
> "Dixiedancer" on Launchpad
>
>

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] lubuntu - minimal install or full featured lightweight distro

[Mario Behling]

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 2:55 PM, C David Rigby  wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 14:20 +0800, Mario Behling wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I would like to start a discussion about the goals of lubuntu, outline
>> what I believe and get your feedback. This is an important question as
>> we should include packages according to the goals.
>>
>> The usage case I see for lubuntu is a situation like in emerging
>> countries where Internet availability or bandwidth is often limited
>> and the power of CPU etc. is low. I was recently working with the
>> community in Afghanistan. People usually download software through one
>> person, for example in a company overnight, and then share it through
>> a USB stick. So the size of the image is important but not the most
>> important. To install and upload packages on a single computer is more
>> difficult as bandwidth of personal users is limited. It is possible to
>> use Internet, messengers and maybe listen to some music, but
>> downloading larger updates and making net-installations is an issue.
>>
>> Looking at this case, I would like to see lubuntu as a distribution
>> offering more applications than just a minimal install. A lubuntu
>> image could be downloaded by one person and then easily distributed
>> among many people having different usages cases. Currently we already
>> have a minimal install of LXDE in Debian.
>>
>> If here is a choice among different solutions, we should choose the
>> lightweight solutions. However, we also need to look at the support of
>> translations for example to make lubuntu a widely adapted distro. It
>> is important to include applications that support many languages.
>>
>> Defining these goals, it becomes clear - there are many compromises.
>> But as we go on with the project and will release new versions, we are
>> always able to adapt our decisions.
>>
>> The question of lubuntu is:
>> 1. Either we want to make it a minimal install or
>> 2. we want to make it a lightweight alternative to full featured distros.
>> I vouch for the second.
>>
>> What do you think?
>>

Hi,

many questions and more questions will come up. - It might be a bit
much to solve everything via email. Would be good if the group of
people who were interested at the meetings we had in Singapore get
together and discuss those face to face first as well for example. I
will do the same with people in Germany.

>
> The lack of ready access to the Internet does make #1 above less useful
> for a desktop user. So, I agree more with #2, given your stated goal.
>
> Some questions & thoughts come to mind:
>
> * What is the minimal image (set of packages) that can be called Ubuntu?
> In other words, what functionality of Ubuntu must we have? Related to
> that:
>   * Is it Canonical that decides what the minimum set of packages is in
> order for it to be called an official *buntu derivative?
>   * Is this documented somewhere, in a fashion similar to the Debian
> Policy Manual?
>   I admit to ignorance on the above questions.

I dont know neither. We could also discuss that over time. At the
moment there are many tasks where we dont need immediate discussions
with Canonical, e.g. we need people making new deb-packages of new
LXDE components and people working on artwork.

>
> * As a stage in development, should we do #1 anyway?

We can, but I am not focusing on this right now.

> If it minimal
> install is defined as Ubuntu server + LXDE or a subset of LXDE's
> components, then that is pretty straight forward. If we are talking
> about reworking Ubuntu desktop, or starting at a more basic level, then
> a solid minimal installation should be the starting point for further
> development. Even if what we all we are doing is subtracting packages,
> and thus functionality, that we decide we do not need, a mistake here is
> painful later when the system lacks something needed by the users.
>
> I just did a quick web search on 9.10 Karmic Koala, and I see that the
> server will have features like cloud computing. Perhaps that is not
> appropriate to the goals stated above? In that case, we may need to
> carefully define the base on which we will build.
>
> * Given our lead time, should we start tracking 9.10 as a reference,
> rather than 9.04?

Our work at the beginning is independent of releases - packages and
artwork, which packages. We will see how fast we progress.

>
> * If we expand our goal to include other situations (e. g., installation
> to a VM, small installation to a USB flash, etc.) then #1 becomes more
> useful in and of itself.

People can just do that. USB stick can be made by anyone from an ISO.
We can think about this

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Should we solicit or nominate coordinators?

[Mario Behling]

Hi,

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 1:59 PM, C David Rigby  wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 13:40 +0800, Mario Behling wrote:
>> Thank you David!
>>
>> I have added a team section to the wiki at
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu . I guess for the beginning people can
>> just add their names here if they wish. Subproject coordinators -
>> people can become that according to their contribution I guess. Please
>> add your names to your field of interest.
>>
>
> OK - I will do that.

Good.

>
>>
>> Concerning the wiki, the more comments we leave the more difficult it
>> seems to follow - even though it is nice to have background infos and
>> opinions. Not sure which way to go, but I think some things are easier
>> discussed on a mailing list and as people join the IRC set up by
>> Elfgoh at irc.freenode.net #lubuntu
>>
>>
>
> The wiki model of documentation writing is both powerful and limited by
> the same thing: its free-form nature and the fact that anyone with
> access can contribute. Ultimately, like wikipedia, editors get involved
> to structure it and guide its growth.
>
> In our case, we have probably already reached the point where someone
> should step in and start dividing it into separate pages based on the
> different sections that have already been set up. We could the replace
> the base page with an intro + table of contents into the content itself.
> A brief "how to contribute to this wiki" page is also useful to give
> contributors a basic idea of the layout so that they can more easily
> insert their contributions into the larger structure.
>
> If there is general interest in this sort of refactoring now, before the
> wiki page itself gets really unwieldy, I would be happy to work on it.
> What does everyone think?

Yes, good idea. We can also have a look on XFCE in the wiki, how they do it.

>
> As an aside, it is for this reason that I prefer a CMS such as Drupal.
> It comes with several reasonable structures, like "blog" and "book",
> already available as modules. They make structuring a larger,
> multi-contributor document a lot easier. The trade-off is that their
> initial set up requires more effort.

Yes, and also everyone has to sign up again.

> I do want to avoid getting too wrapped up in site building if it takes
> time away from working on the software. However, as a technical writer,
> I've seen what happens to many projects where documentation is an
> afterthought. It's not pretty! (8->

I would like to focus on the distro itself first and use existing
channels. The documentation team could use a Drupal or something
similar (even the wiki might be ok), but we need to get enough people
first. I think working in a group to get the distro going and having a
first release will get a lot of attention and will make more people to
join hopefully. I hope to use this push then to get more focus to
those tasks such as documentation as well. At first we need something
to document :-)

Best,

Mario

>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Mario
>>
>>
>
> Cheers
> CDR
>
>> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 9:08 AM, C David Rigby  
>> wrote:
>> > Hello everyone,
>> >
>> > We have 54 members registered for team Lubuntu. Should we solicit or
>> > nominate coordinators for the various sub-domains of activity in
>> > building Lubuntu? For example, Mario has suggested we need contributions
>> > in the areas of (from https://edge.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop ):
>> >
>> > * packaging
>> > * coding
>> > * artwork
>> > * documentation
>> > * translation
>> > * testing
>> >
>> > For example, looking at this list, I would feel comfortable coordinating
>> > efforts on testing or documentation, because I know those areas
>> > reasonably well already. I would be glad to learn about and help with
>> > packaging and coding, but I do not know enough to coordinate the efforts
>> > of others. I'm useless for artwork and translation.
>> >
>> > I'm not sure it is warranted, but with 54 members and growing, we may
>> > need an "executive committee" of sorts. This would also free Mario from
>> > having to micromanage all elements of activity.
>> >
>> > Your thoughts?
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > C David Rigby
>> >
>
>



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[Lubuntu-desktop] lubuntu - minimal install or full featured lightweight distro

[Mario Behling]

Dear all,

I would like to start a discussion about the goals of lubuntu, outline
what I believe and get your feedback. This is an important question as
we should include packages according to the goals.

The usage case I see for lubuntu is a situation like in emerging
countries where Internet availability or bandwidth is often limited
and the power of CPU etc. is low. I was recently working with the
community in Afghanistan. People usually download software through one
person, for example in a company overnight, and then share it through
a USB stick. So the size of the image is important but not the most
important. To install and upload packages on a single computer is more
difficult as bandwidth of personal users is limited. It is possible to
use Internet, messengers and maybe listen to some music, but
downloading larger updates and making net-installations is an issue.

Looking at this case, I would like to see lubuntu as a distribution
offering more applications than just a minimal install. A lubuntu
image could be downloaded by one person and then easily distributed
among many people having different usages cases. Currently we already
have a minimal install of LXDE in Debian.

If here is a choice among different solutions, we should choose the
lightweight solutions. However, we also need to look at the support of
translations for example to make lubuntu a widely adapted distro. It
is important to include applications that support many languages.

Defining these goals, it becomes clear - there are many compromises.
But as we go on with the project and will release new versions, we are
always able to adapt our decisions.

The question of lubuntu is:
1. Either we want to make it a minimal install or
2. we want to make it a lightweight alternative to full featured distros.
I vouch for the second.

What do you think?

Best,

Mario


PS: The option to have a choice of software to install is a good idea
for following releases as well, but requires more competences that we
need to build up, I guess.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Should we solicit or nominate coordinators?

[Mario Behling]

Thank you David!

I have added a team section to the wiki at
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu . I guess for the beginning people can
just add their names here if they wish. Subproject coordinators -
people can become that according to their contribution I guess. Please
add your names to your field of interest.


Concerning the wiki, the more comments we leave the more difficult it
seems to follow - even though it is nice to have background infos and
opinions. Not sure which way to go, but I think some things are easier
discussed on a mailing list and as people join the IRC set up by
Elfgoh at irc.freenode.net #lubuntu


Best regards,

Mario


On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 9:08 AM, C David Rigby  wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> We have 54 members registered for team Lubuntu. Should we solicit or
> nominate coordinators for the various sub-domains of activity in
> building Lubuntu? For example, Mario has suggested we need contributions
> in the areas of (from https://edge.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop ):
>
> * packaging
> * coding
> * artwork
> * documentation
> * translation
> * testing
>
> For example, looking at this list, I would feel comfortable coordinating
> efforts on testing or documentation, because I know those areas
> reasonably well already. I would be glad to learn about and help with
> packaging and coding, but I do not know enough to coordinate the efforts
> of others. I'm useless for artwork and translation.
>
> I'm not sure it is warranted, but with 54 members and growing, we may
> need an "executive committee" of sorts. This would also free Mario from
> having to micromanage all elements of activity.
>
> Your thoughts?
>
> Regards
> C David Rigby
>

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 49 members joined Lubuntu! Why not u-lite?

[Mario Behling]

Hi,

thanks for hinting me to the article of Shae. I replied with a comment
on the website. See the page: http://u-lite.org/content/lubuntu .
Concerning the packages: The packages on the wiki are still a first
draft.

Best,

Mario


On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:42 PM, No Alternative
 wrote:
> Excuse me, but it looks like you are working on a project with
> roughly the same packages, as the u-lite distribution.   You are
> using lxde, with Kazehakase Web-browser, Abiword and Gnumeric.  Why
> not just join the u-lite project and make that lubuntu?
>
> Shae wrote about this on his blog just in the last week.
>
> http://u-lite.org/content/lubuntu
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Mario Behling" 
>> To: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
>> Subject: [Lubuntu-desktop] 49 members joined Lubuntu! Lets move ahead
>> Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 14:11:18 +0800
>>
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> we already have 49 members in the LXDE/Lubuntu group on Launchpad.
>> Time to move ahead. Currently not all people are subscribed to the
>> mailing list, so I wrote this email below, which I am sending to those
>> people directly.
>>
>> In order to get the distro going, we need to focus on artwork,
>> applications and at the moment we urgently need people, who can make
>> (or want to learn) deb-packages for the new components and updated
>> LXDE components.
>>
>> I am looking forward to see this project grow.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Mario
>>
>> ---
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> thank you for joining up with us in the LXDE team and in the Lubuntu
>> team on Launchpad.
>>
>>
>> MAILING LIST
>>
>> I have seen, that you have not subscribed to the mailing list yet. In
>> order to improve communication in the team, I invite you to join us
>> here. You can join the mailing list after signing in to Launchpad and
>> using a link in the mailing list section below the map:
>> https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
>>
>>
>> IRC
>>
>> There are also other ways to communicate with contributors. Most
>> participants are currently meeting up on the LXDE IRC. As the
>> community is still relatively small, it makes sense to use the same
>> channel still. Please join us on irc.oftc.net #lxde
>>
>>
>> CURRENT TASKS
>>
>> We had a gathering with the Open Source community in Singapore a
>> couple of months ago. Luther Goh Lu Feng and others have started to
>> bring different people together. Now 49 people have joined the Lubuntu
>> group already. In order to move things forward we now need to focus on
>> a few tasks. We need people:
>>
>> 1. creating packages of the new LXDE components and updated components
>> (Please also see http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Category:Packaging and join
>> the developers mailing list of LXDE
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lxde-list)
>>
>> 2. making artwork (two contributors started to post their suggestions
>> for logos and wallpapers already). Please also post files in the forum
>> and leave a message on the Lubuntu mailing list, so everyone can have
>> a look: http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=437
>>
>> 3. Decide on best applications to include. See 
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu
>>
>> 4. Make the distro
>>
>>
>> I am excited how much I am learning during the process and it is great
>> fun to team up with people from all over the world! We are looking
>> forward to get this distro moving ahead and welcome your involvement.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Mario
>>

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[Lubuntu-desktop] T-Shirts and Banners for LXDE: Call for Designs

[Mario Behling]

Hello everyone,

LXDEs popularity is increasing and so people ask for presentation
materials and T-shirts. So, lets design some T-shirts and banners
together.

We are calling for you to make some T-shirt designs and designs for
the display of LXDE at community events with PVC banners. You are a
designer or like to become one? Please join
- the design project page http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Category:Design
- the design mailing list
http://mailinglist.lxde.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/design
- and post your designs in the Forum at http://forum.lxde.org/viewforum.php?f=13

We are looking for T-Shirt prints we can use for example at the
Linuxtag in Berlin and also for designs for banners of the size of
160x60 cm. Feel free to include screenshots, pictures of the community
and anything you can think of :-)

Happy to see your results soon!

All the best,

Mario

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[Lubuntu-desktop] 49 members joined Lubuntu! Lets move ahead

[Mario Behling]

Hello everyone,

we already have 49 members in the LXDE/Lubuntu group on Launchpad.
Time to move ahead. Currently not all people are subscribed to the
mailing list, so I wrote this email below, which I am sending to those
people directly.

In order to get the distro going, we need to focus on artwork,
applications and at the moment we urgently need people, who can make
(or want to learn) deb-packages for the new components and updated
LXDE components.

I am looking forward to see this project grow.

All the best,

Mario

---

Hello,

thank you for joining up with us in the LXDE team and in the Lubuntu
team on Launchpad.


MAILING LIST

I have seen, that you have not subscribed to the mailing list yet. In
order to improve communication in the team, I invite you to join us
here. You can join the mailing list after signing in to Launchpad and
using a link in the mailing list section below the map:
https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop


IRC

There are also other ways to communicate with contributors. Most
participants are currently meeting up on the LXDE IRC. As the
community is still relatively small, it makes sense to use the same
channel still. Please join us on irc.oftc.net #lxde


CURRENT TASKS

We had a gathering with the Open Source community in Singapore a
couple of months ago. Luther Goh Lu Feng and others have started to
bring different people together. Now 49 people have joined the Lubuntu
group already. In order to move things forward we now need to focus on
a few tasks. We need people:

1. creating packages of the new LXDE components and updated components
(Please also see http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Category:Packaging and join
the developers mailing list of LXDE
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lxde-list)

2. making artwork (two contributors started to post their suggestions
for logos and wallpapers already). Please also post files in the forum
and leave a message on the Lubuntu mailing list, so everyone can have
a look: http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=437

3. Decide on best applications to include. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu

4. Make the distro


I am excited how much I am learning during the process and it is great
fun to team up with people from all over the world! We are looking
forward to get this distro moving ahead and welcome your involvement.

All the best,

Mario

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] logo

[Mario Behling]

Hi,

looks good. I guess it is a good idea to adapt the colors - different
LXDE desktop blues maybe.

I think this is interesting for everyone, so lets have this email
exchange over the mailing list.

We need three image sizes:

- A small image of exactly 14x14 pixels and at most 5kb in size, that
can be used to identify this team. The icon will be displayed whenever
the team name is listed - for example in listings of bugs or on a
person's membership table.

- An image of exactly 64x64 pixels that will be displayed in the
heading of all pages related to the team. Traditionally this is a
logo, a small picture or a personal mascot. It should be no bigger
than 50kb in size.

- A large image of exactly 192x192 pixels, that will be displayed on
the team page in Launchpad. It should be no bigger than 100kb in size.

Best,

Mario

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:09 PM, Gusions  wrote:
> Hello man, this isi the first logo
> http://upload.centerzone.it/images/2a4hs289gi9rmxgodoo.png a simply
> ubuntu logo + the startup icon of lxde, but this is
> http://upload.centerzone.it/images/952ibbtadrbncxlbwyel.png the second
> logo , a remake a usually ubuntu logo + lxde startup icon ...
> I attend =)
>
> Good afternoon
>

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Testing iso

[Mario Behling]

Hi,

a friend of mine in Berlin tried out reconstructor a couple of months
ago for evaluating an LXDE/Ubuntu release. He could not get everything
going easily. I wonder if it would be necessary to make a distro
manually. I am curious about your experience.

Thanks for keeping us up to date.

Mario


On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 7:03 PM, dave slaughter  wrote:
> I am having issues with reconstructor in Jaunty. So I am going to re
> install an older version and try again. Jaunty doesn't seem to want to
> open chroot terminal so I have to go backwards to go forward.
>

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Going to make base testing ISO

[Mario Behling]

Hello,

thanks for the list. Sounds very good to start with.

Should we use the Ubuntu-Wiki for gathering this information as well?
I started this wiki page a while ago: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LXDE and
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu

We can have a bullet point for applications in the ISO.

I am looking forward to the image.

Best,

Mario

On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 10:05 AM, dave slaughter
 wrote:
> As I was discussing with Luther, I am going to start working on a base
> "Lubuntu" test ISO as soon as soon as the Ubuntu final is released. The
> reason I am waiting the extra couple of days is simple really, I don't want
> to do a ton of work, just to find that something that I used, or altered,
> was changed, or completely removed, and have to do it all over again. So
> only 2 more days till the final, not much time to wait.
> Thing I am thinking of using in this ISO are,
>
> GDM for the login, as it is easier to customize for the end user
> Conky
> Exaile, or Rhythmbox for the music player, though I am leaning more towards
> Exaile
> MPLayer for video
> XChat for irc, leading to both the Ubuntu, and the Lubuntu irc channels as
> default on connection
> Irssi as an optional client
> XFCETerminal for the terminal, as it is more customizable, (colors,
> transparency, etc)
> GCompmg, this is a gui config tool for XCompmgr, which will obviously be
> installed as well
> Firefox for web
> Claws for e-mail
> BlueFish for an html/text editor
> abiword
> gnumeric
> gimp
> samba and nfs-common installed by default
> Wicd for the network manager
> OBConfig, for configuring the window boarders
> and a few custom .desktop files for few things, like a logout/shutdown
> button on the panel, and menu entries for GCompmgr, and XCompmgr.
> Also, I am planing on making a couple of custom art items, like the LXDE
> logout menu, making a custom banner for that, as well as a custom menu
> button. If anyone has any more ideas for art, or programs, or anything else,
> please do tell, I could use some ideas of what others are wanting in this.
>
> Dave, aka McLovin(926), aka Slaughter5
>

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Hello world testing

[Mario Behling]

Hi,

lets stay with one channel on freenode for the time being:
irc.freenode.net #lubuntu

The project is just getting started.

@ Dave, it would be great if you would become more involved and could
support the start up of things here.

I am currently in Afghanistan supporting OLPC and Freifunk here.

All the best,

Mario


On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Luther Goh Lu Feng  wrote:
>
>
>
> --- On Tue, 4/14/09, dave slaughter  wrote:
>
>> From: dave slaughter 
>> Subject: [Lubuntu-desktop]  Hello world testing
>> To: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
>> Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 2:28 AM
>> Sorry Luther,
>> I sent this to you instead of the right email adress.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Luther Goh Lu Feng 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I am not sure if there are any ladies in here... So good
>> day Ladies and Gentlemen.
>>
>>
>>
>> As we get nearer to the Jaunty release, I thought that it
>> will be a
>> good move to start chit chatting a bit to see how we want
>> this project
>> to move.
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyway, I am currently contributing to http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXDE:Question,
>> as I find that LXDE seems to lack a quality FAQ and newbie
>> guide. Hence
>> I am contributing to this in my limited free time, by
>> looking at
>> questions asked in the forum.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I am also hoping to build a SG based LXDE team. So I am
>> spreading the
>> word by talking to students. I am involved with NUS Linux
>> Users' Group
>> (aka linuxNUS).
>>
>>
>>
>> I would also like to ask which irc channel /server we
>> should use... and
>> also whether we should advertise/recruit for Lubuntu in
>> lxde forums and
>> ubuntu forums.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>>
>> Luther aka Lu Feng
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> I think that using the #lxde irc
>> channel is ok for shooting around ideas for LXDE itself,
>> but maybe
>> making and registering a #lubuntu irc channel would be good
>> too, maybe
>> use the same sever as Ubuntu uses for their irc channel, or
>> even use irc.oftc.net, like the #lxde
>> channel.
>>
>>
>> As for advertising/recruiting, maybe. This is the reason, I
>> am the
>> dev for LinuxMint LXDE CE as well, and I have a ton ppl
>> that ask me
>> every day if they can be part of the team, alot them I have
>> to answer
>> question on the irc channel about basic Linux things, like
>> how to
>> install a theme, or how to change menu items in Gnome,
>> while others are
>> true Linux gurus, but weeding them out takes more time than
>> colaborating with the main LinuxMint dev team itself, so
>> while it is
>> usefull for getting some true tallent, it can also cause
>> issues if
>> someone who knows "just enough" manages to get on
>> the team, and then
>> starts slowing things down with questions like "How do
>> you make a
>> window border theme for LXDE?" and that can take away
>> from solving real
>> issues like how do we fix the random menu dissapearing in
>> the LXPanel
>> 0.4. So it has its ups and its downs. I think being careful
>> of who is
>> let into the dev team is going to be very impotant in the
>> comming times.
>>
>>
>> Dave, aka, McLovin, aka, Slaughter5
>>
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> AFAIK, #ubuntu on irc.ubuntu.com is the same as the one on #ubuntu at 
> irc.freenode.net. I would vote for having #lubuntu on freenode. If it is 
> useful, we could get #lubuntu-devel as well. Incidentally, I also notice that 
> a lot of people enter #lxde @freenode, but often then not, many people there 
> are not knowledgable enough to answer, or nobody responds due to the lack of 
> active people. So having a stronger presence on freenode could be beneficial 
> for LXDE.
>
> I don't have much experience in Open Source Projects like many here, but 
> would like to suggest that though we may need to be stringent about who gets 
> to do actual development, we should also ensure that there are channels (eg 
> documentation, faq) conducive to build up the less experienced contributors.
>
> I look forward to more inputs from the rest of the Lubuntu team.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Luther aka Lu Feng aka elfgoh
>
>
>

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