Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Julien Lavergne]

Le jeudi 25 février 2010 à 06:10 +0100, Jo Gerb a écrit :
> Sorry, i mean the pw you choose during the installation. Space is Not  
> possiple for login with the GUI, but with console its okay.

Well is not a bug, it's more a protection in the GUI. You can do
anything with the console, but it doesn't mean it's a good idea :)

Regards,
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Jo Gerb]

Am 25.02.2010 um 00:22 schrieb Julien Lavergne :


Le mercredi 24 février 2010 à 20:24 +0100, Jo Gerb a écrit :

look, thats what i meant:
the icons arejust not in the middle. maybe its also an optical
illusion because of the little line under the quicklaunchers that
doesn't continue under the tabs.

Ok now I see it. Yes it seems to be a bug.


and something i forgot: for root-pw i just pressed space and ignored
the warnings. But the login window didn't take  space as a password,
it just returned to the user-choice. On the console i could login and
change the pw.

You should not be able to login with root with the login manager. Or
maybe I don't understand what you mean ?


Sorry, i mean the pw you choose during the installation. Space is Not  
possiple for login with the GUI, but with console its okay.

Has sdl to many dependencies? if not, we could include that and write
some easy games there.
Not sure we will include games, well I didn't find good idea/example  
to

include them properly. And sdl is still extra depends.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne




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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Julien Lavergne]

Thanks for testing.

Le jeudi 25 février 2010 à 01:49 +0300, Mike Nokel a écrit :
> Hello, everyone.
> 
> 
> I have been testing this iso for a week now. I have added Julien
> Lavergne's PPA. Everything is working good enough, 
Generally, adding my PPA is quite dangerous :) I made many changes for
testing, sometimes really unstable :) When I have something stable, I
put it in the Lubuntu PPA instead (or in the Ubuntu repo directly).

> except 4 things:
> 1) pcmanfm2. It crashes almost everytime I've opened it. No auto-mount
> at all and even no mount. I can't mount any USB-drive at all. May be
> someone can help me?
The new pcmanfm2 seems really sensitive to incorrect config files. It
also crashed when "showing hidden" is enable. 

> When I create symlinks to the Desktop, they don't work.
Symlinks are also not implemented yet on pcmanfm2.

> 2) unreadahead gives me a lot of errors during startup.
Do you have the same with a Ubuntu live-cd ?

> 3) fskbsetting after installation (I think it should be included by
> default) gives me segmentation fault and won't work. So I can't switch
> from US to any other language using lxpanel-plugin.
Where do you find the fskbsetting ?

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Julien Lavergne]

Le mercredi 24 février 2010 à 20:24 +0100, Jo Gerb a écrit :
> look, thats what i meant: 
> the icons arejust not in the middle. maybe its also an optical
> illusion because of the little line under the quicklaunchers that
> doesn't continue under the tabs.
Ok now I see it. Yes it seems to be a bug.

> and something i forgot: for root-pw i just pressed space and ignored
> the warnings. But the login window didn't take  space as a password,
> it just returned to the user-choice. On the console i could login and
> change the pw. 
You should not be able to login with root with the login manager. Or
maybe I don't understand what you mean ?

> Has sdl to many dependencies? if not, we could include that and write
> some easy games there.
Not sure we will include games, well I didn't find good idea/example to
include them properly. And sdl is still extra depends.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Mike Nokel]

>
> Hello, everyone.


I have been testing this iso for a week now. I have added Julien Lavergne's
PPA. Everything is working good enough, except 4 things:
1) pcmanfm2. It crashes almost everytime I've opened it. No auto-mount at
all and even no mount. I can't mount any USB-drive at all. May be someone
can help me?
When I create symlinks to the Desktop, they don't work.
2) unreadahead gives me a lot of errors during startup.
3) fskbsetting after installation (I think it should be included by default)
gives me segmentation fault and won't work. So I can't switch from US to any
other language using lxpanel-plugin.
4) already reported bug with gnome-power-manager.

And it uses just 90 mb out of 2Gb memory. It looks very perfect.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Julien Lavergne]

Thanks for testing.

Le mercredi 24 février 2010 à 16:30 +0100, Jo Gerb a écrit :
> 2.)The installation with sudo ubiquity goes quite fast. after half an
> hour, i could reboot and see the login window. One little graphical
> thing: what about making the logo there white, like it was
> illuminated? i tried it and that looks quite good, no matter if you
> use a blue or a green background.
Well, we try to be consistent in the artwork. The problem, everyone have
a different opinion on the artwork :) 

> 3.) Sometimes on startup with the livecd i got this error-message:
> "Error: unable to establish connection with FAM. Do you have "Fam" and
> "Gamin" installed and running?" is there already a bug report, or what
> is it? Or is it something with pcmanfm, that will become batter with
> version2 ?
Let's try with the next Alpha, with pcmanfm2, to see if it's still the
case.

> 4.)  Same with some icons. They seem to "fall of the screen", they are
> not in the middle of the "tab" (how do you call them?)
Do you have a screenshot ?


> 5.) Software we should add: gdebi-gtk and some games.
Should be added in the next Alpha.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Steve]

On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 09:36:41 -, Jo Gerb   
wrote:


one more thing: has anyone ever installed a .deb? i tried it with the
proxy-GUI from Leszek, but it failed. XArchiver opened and gave a fail
("failed to execute child process "ar" (No such file or directory)"). the
one synaptic-entry in "all applications" didnt do anything at all, the  
other

one opened the standard-synaptic window. And in the "all applications" tab
every program appeared two times, synaptic even three times. maybe these
both problems are caused by the VM, i couldnt test it on my pII cause  
theres

no internet-connection. i made some screenshots, if you don't know what i
mean. Please test if these problems appear also on your pc.
Thanks a lot, Jo.


It’s the same here.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Steve]

On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 09:36:41 -, Jo Gerb   
wrote:



one more thing: has anyone ever installed a .deb? i tried it with the
proxy-GUI from Leszek, but it failed. XArchiver opened and gave a fail
("failed to execute child process "ar" (No such file or directory)"). the
one synaptic-entry in "all applications" didnt do anything at all, the  
other
one opened the standard-synaptic window. And in the "all applications"  
tab

every program appeared two times, synaptic even three times. maybe these
both problems are caused by the VM, i couldnt test it on my pII cause  
theres

no internet-connection. i made some screenshots, if you don't know what i
mean. Please test if these problems appear also on your pc.
Thanks a lot, Jo.



It’s the same here.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Lee Briggs]

On 21 February 2010 12:27, Lee Briggs  wrote:

> On 21 February 2010 09:36, Jo Gerb  wrote:
>
>> one more thing: has anyone ever installed a .deb? i tried it with the
>> proxy-GUI from Leszek, but it failed. XArchiver opened and gave a fail
>> ("failed to execute child process "ar" (No such file or directory)"). the
>> one synaptic-entry in "all applications" didnt do anything at all, the other
>> one opened the standard-synaptic window. And in the "all applications" tab
>> every program appeared two times, synaptic even three times. maybe these
>> both problems are caused by the VM, i couldnt test it on my pII cause theres
>> no internet-connection. i made some screenshots, if you don't know what i
>> mean. Please test if these problems appear also on your pc.
>> Thanks a lot, Jo.
>>
>> You need to use dpkg from the terminal with
>
> sudo dpkg -i /path/to/deb/file
>
> If you want a GUI installer for debs, install GDebi from the repos
>
> I've just sort of had a thought too, with Lubuntu wanting to be an official
> Ubuntu derivative, does it need to include the Ubuntu software centre and
> Ubuntu One?
>
> > Also, I'm aware you installed pidgin, but was any consideration ever
> given
> > to ayttm? Its multi-protocol, super lightweight and pretty darn good.
> >
> > Nice app. You can propose ayttm if its in the repos.
>
> Ayttm is in the repos. The other app i thought might be useful is a very
> simple paint app. There is mtpaint (which is REALLY small). Theres also
> paint.mono, which is smaller than gimp but bigger than mtpaint, but
> obviously has the mono problem (in that its in a grey area oss wise)
>
> There is a PPA for it here - https://launchpad.net/~xmlich02/+archive/ppa
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Jo Gerb]

to the config file for chromium: it supports html5, doesnt't it? maybe we
should also activate the youtube- html5-testmode. this should need less ram
than videos in flash.

2010/2/21 Leszek Lesner 

> On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 01:33:32 +
> Lee Briggs  wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've had a quick test and I'd say there was a few things missing.
> >
> > There is no mouse cursor theme at the moment, can I recommennd
> > dmz-cursor-theme from the repos.
> >
> Good idea +1
>
> > Also, creating a config file for Chromium in the skel directory might be
> > useful.
> >
> Already known
> > Also, might be just a problem for me, but the battery indicator didn't
> show
> > up  - I'm guessing the icon is missing from the theme. The power manager
> is
> > running, but there was no icon.
> >
> Already known (see the postings and feedback to this topic)
> > Is there any plan to include two panels as opposed to the one, sticking
> with
> > the Ubuntu/Xubuntu norm?
> >
> I think it was decided not to change. 2 Panels is too much for a netbook or
> small device screen.
>
> > Also, I'm aware you installed pidgin, but was any consideration ever
> given
> > to ayttm? Its multi-protocol, super lightweight and pretty darn good.
> >
> Nice app. You can propose ayttm if its in the repos.
>
> > Will notify-osd be included or are you sticking with notification-daemon?
> >
> I think there will be no notify-osd. (So I guess we will stick to
> notification-daemon)
> > I think thats all for now, if I think of anything else I'll send it in,
> > overall its an excellent release
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Leszek Lesner]

On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 01:33:32 +
Lee Briggs  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I've had a quick test and I'd say there was a few things missing.
> 
> There is no mouse cursor theme at the moment, can I recommennd
> dmz-cursor-theme from the repos.
> 
Good idea +1

> Also, creating a config file for Chromium in the skel directory might be
> useful.
> 
Already known
> Also, might be just a problem for me, but the battery indicator didn't show
> up  - I'm guessing the icon is missing from the theme. The power manager is
> running, but there was no icon.
> 
Already known (see the postings and feedback to this topic)
> Is there any plan to include two panels as opposed to the one, sticking with
> the Ubuntu/Xubuntu norm?
> 
I think it was decided not to change. 2 Panels is too much for a netbook or 
small device screen. 

> Also, I'm aware you installed pidgin, but was any consideration ever given
> to ayttm? Its multi-protocol, super lightweight and pretty darn good.
> 
Nice app. You can propose ayttm if its in the repos. 

> Will notify-osd be included or are you sticking with notification-daemon?
> 
I think there will be no notify-osd. (So I guess we will stick to 
notification-daemon) 
> I think thats all for now, if I think of anything else I'll send it in,
> overall its an excellent release

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Phill Whiteside]

Re: battery indicator, it may be a generic 10.04 one,

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1411586

Has a simple work around  - it may, or may not, solve that problem for you.

Regards,

Phill.

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 1:33 AM, Lee Briggs  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I've had a quick test and I'd say there was a few things missing.
>
> There is no mouse cursor theme at the moment, can I recommennd
> dmz-cursor-theme from the repos.
>
> Also, creating a config file for Chromium in the skel directory might be
> useful.
>
> Also, might be just a problem for me, but the battery indicator didn't show
> up  - I'm guessing the icon is missing from the theme. The power manager is
> running, but there was no icon.
>
> Is there any plan to include two panels as opposed to the one, sticking
> with the Ubuntu/Xubuntu norm?
>
> Also, I'm aware you installed pidgin, but was any consideration ever given
> to ayttm? Its multi-protocol, super lightweight and pretty darn good.
>
> Will notify-osd be included or are you sticking with notification-daemon?
>
> I think thats all for now, if I think of anything else I'll send it in,
> overall its an excellent release
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Lee Briggs]

Hi,

I've had a quick test and I'd say there was a few things missing.

There is no mouse cursor theme at the moment, can I recommennd
dmz-cursor-theme from the repos.

Also, creating a config file for Chromium in the skel directory might be
useful.

Also, might be just a problem for me, but the battery indicator didn't show
up  - I'm guessing the icon is missing from the theme. The power manager is
running, but there was no icon.

Is there any plan to include two panels as opposed to the one, sticking with
the Ubuntu/Xubuntu norm?

Also, I'm aware you installed pidgin, but was any consideration ever given
to ayttm? Its multi-protocol, super lightweight and pretty darn good.

Will notify-osd be included or are you sticking with notification-daemon?

I think thats all for now, if I think of anything else I'll send it in,
overall its an excellent release
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Julien Lavergne]

Thanks for the test.

Le mercredi 17 février 2010 à 19:20 +0300, Mike Nokel a écrit :
> Hi.
> I have found some time to install it on my computer. In general,
> everything looks and works perfectly. However, there are some
> problems:
> 1) by default, there is no keyboard layout controller on the panel. I
> think, that it should be there. A lot of people uses it in everyday's
> life.
I don't think people change the layout of their keyboard very often.
However, there is no easy way to configure this behavior.

> 2) as for battery monitor on the panel: it should be visible by
> default. This empty space looks really strange.
It's a bug in gnome-power-manager.

> 3) there is still pcmanfm 0.5.2, not pcmanfm2(
In progress.

> 4) you have included "osmo" as a default program. My friends and me
> haven't heard about this program before. And in everyday life may be
> it is not so necessary to be included, I think.
It's something to deal with calendar, tasks, contacts etc ... It could
be useful for a bunch of people.

> 5) without installing packages "xscreensaver-gl",
> "xscreensaver-gl-extra", "xscreensaver-data-extra" I see a lot of
> error messages telling me that there is no directory
> "/usr/share/backgrounds". It is annoying.
I know, It's also annoying for me. I fixed it before, last upload
re-introduce the bug.

> 6) when I launch lxterminal, appeared the window without any string
> like this: "ubu...@ubuntu:~/". But when you hit any key on the
> keyboard it appears unexpectably.
I can't reproduce the problem. you should report a bug under lxterminal.

> 7) some buttons such as "OK", "Cancel" just don't work (only hitting
> "Close Window" helped me to close the windows). It is so when you are
> configuring panel for example.
Please report bugs under programs which are affected, with the exact
windows affected.

> 8) you have used LXDM as a login manager. It is perfect, but it has
> serious problems:
>  - when I enable autologin on it, I just can't switch my keyboard
> layout by hitting on the applet on the panel. Only typing "sudo
> lxpanelctl restart" helped me.
>  - there is no gui-program to configure LXDM yet. For a lot of
> people it will be hard to understand what do if they want enable
> "autologin" or so on.
For now, nothing exist, even upstream. It's something on the TODO list
but siomeone need to code it. See bug
https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxdm/+bug/518415

>  - using LXDM I can't modify PATH variable (even modifying
> file /etc/profile), so I can't play any games using menu
> (Menu->Games->...). It won't work.
> 9) sound card by default doesn't work. So, I have gone to
> alsa-project.org, downloaded the latest driver, lib and utils,
> installed it. Run "sudo alsaconf" and after reboot I heart the sound.
It's an alsa bug, not specific to Lubuntu. I think alsa was updated
recently on Lucid, maybe it will be fixed for the next update.

> 10) I've got ati radeon 4670 video, but when I tried to install
> "xorg-driver-fglrx", it tells me that he wants to remove xorg with all
> its dependencies. Strange behaviour. So, I have only poor 3D now(
Surely a temporary problem, Lubuntu is still based on Lucid, which is
unstable :)

> 11) I've tried to install fskbsetting. But when launching it gives me
> "segmentation fault". I don't know why.
You should report a bug on this package.

> 12) May be there should be some games, at least some gnome-games?
gnome-games have too much depends on gnome stuff. If you have other idea
for little games, maybe :)

Regards,
Julien Lavergne



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Leszek Lesner]

My favorite color is blue. 

+1 blue 

IMHO green looks like mildew.
But I totally agree we need to take the theme that is complete and gets the 
most votes. For this purpose I will definitely upgrade my NewWave Theme for 
Lubuntu in the next couple of days (most work will be done on weekend I guess) 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Artwork/Incoming/Lucid/NewWave

So that we will have a choice ;) 


On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 09:16:38 +
Jonay Santana  wrote:

> +1 for green. Light green, better.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

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+1 for green. Light green, better.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Jo Gerb]

There was not really a thread about games. I just said that maybe the  
People who will use lubuntu wont have Internet at all, and Even if  
they have a (slowly) connection, they wont know how to install games.  
So no matter how many games there are available, they wont play them.  
If we put one or too small Games into lubuntu, these people would  
thank us . I thought about sth like minesweeper  and snake, maybe also  
a cardsgame'



To the colours: of course there are other distributions with green,  
and maybe also some with lxde. But lubuntu wont Be a Small  
Distribution with lxde, it will become an official ubuntu derivat . We  
should concentrate  on that fact and just see the logos and colours of  
the other officially ubuntubased distributions such As xubuntu and  
kubuntu. Both of them are Blue. And lubuntu: i don't like purple.  
Green would fit into the philsophy of lubuntu and lxde: Not needing  
many Ressources, you can use your old computer and don't have to buy a  
New one. I would keep on green.


Best regards,
Jo

Am 18.02.2010 um 07:10 schrieb "josef A. Beroeatwarin" >:



Hello again
 Its working very nice..and for the nm-applet much better that  
wicd.

I ditch the chromium browser because its no my flavor in my opinion.
I have only one small problem with my wireless broadband. I use
huawei e220. its Doesn't detected in nm-applet but in lsusb it is  
detected.
In the  first alpha stage it was working with NM-applet with the  
latest kernel upgrade.

Tonight I will try again using PPP or wvdial.

Somebody talk about games.. where is the tread?? :-D
I really need 2 games that is really working on my netbook :-D

Gdebi installer would be nice or something like that in Lubuntu??

 And does Gdebi really help for people that has no internet. Because  
in Indonesia
not everybody can affort internet connection. And even if they have  
it,it will be cellphone using as modems.
 It would be nice if there is something like that for updating  
packages or what-ever to install/update without internet

in deb packages.

thanks
Josef A. Beroeatwarin...


Mike Nokel wrote:


2010/2/17 Sylkis 
1) a lot of people hide it away, or even disable, when using windows,
as most people dont need it and it causes problems, when the lng gets
switched (in poland it used to be very common quite a few years ago,
that Y and Z were switching because of some key shortcut that was
unnknown to most users) - i think that feature is good only for truly
biligual people (like people living in foreign country), and there  
are

relatively few of them
2) stationary PC's don't have batteries, and this is supposed to be
for old computers in the first place, not netbooks...

12) the games issue has been started today in another thread :)

1) ok. It was only my opinion.
2) I understand. May be then remove it from panel? Empty space  
isn't good idea, I think.

12) Oh, I see. Thank you.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[josef A. Beroeatwarin]

Hello again
 Its working very nice..and for the nm-applet much better that wicd.
I ditch the chromium browser because its no my flavor in my opinion.
I have only one small problem with my wireless broadband. I use
huawei e220. its Doesn't detected in nm-applet but in lsusb it is detected.
In the  first alpha stage it was working with NM-applet with the latest 
kernel upgrade.

Tonight I will try again using PPP or wvdial.

Somebody talk about games.. where is the tread?? :-D
I really need 2 games that is really working on my netbook :-D

Gdebi installer would be nice or something like that in Lubuntu??

 And does Gdebi really help for people that has no internet. Because in 
Indonesia
not everybody can affort internet connection. And even if they have 
it,it will be cellphone using as modems.
 It would be nice if there is something like that for updating packages 
or what-ever to install/update without internet

in deb packages.

thanks
Josef A. Beroeatwarin...


Mike Nokel wrote:

2010/2/17 Sylkis mailto:syl...@gmail.com>>

1) a lot of people hide it away, or even disable, when using windows,
as most people dont need it and it causes problems, when the lng gets
switched (in poland it used to be very common quite a few years ago,
that Y and Z were switching because of some key shortcut that was
unnknown to most users) - i think that feature is good only for truly
biligual people (like people living in foreign country), and there are
relatively few of them
2) stationary PC's don't have batteries, and this is supposed to be
for old computers in the first place, not netbooks...

12) the games issue has been started today in another thread :)


1) ok. It was only my opinion.
2) I understand. May be then remove it from panel? Empty space isn't 
good idea, I think.

12) Oh, I see. Thank you.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Mike Nokel]

2010/2/17 Sylkis 

> 1) a lot of people hide it away, or even disable, when using windows,
> as most people dont need it and it causes problems, when the lng gets
> switched (in poland it used to be very common quite a few years ago,
> that Y and Z were switching because of some key shortcut that was
> unnknown to most users) - i think that feature is good only for truly
> biligual people (like people living in foreign country), and there are
> relatively few of them
> 2) stationary PC's don't have batteries, and this is supposed to be
> for old computers in the first place, not netbooks...
>
> 12) the games issue has been started today in another thread :)
>

1) ok. It was only my opinion.
2) I understand. May be then remove it from panel? Empty space isn't good
idea, I think.
12) Oh, I see. Thank you.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Sylkis]

1) a lot of people hide it away, or even disable, when using windows,
as most people dont need it and it causes problems, when the lng gets
switched (in poland it used to be very common quite a few years ago,
that Y and Z were switching because of some key shortcut that was
unnknown to most users) - i think that feature is good only for truly
biligual people (like people living in foreign country), and there are
relatively few of them
2) stationary PC's don't have batteries, and this is supposed to be
for old computers in the first place, not netbooks...

12) the games issue has been started today in another thread :)

2010/2/17 Mike Nokel :
>> Hi.
>
> I have found some time to install it on my computer. In general, everything
> looks and works perfectly. However, there are some problems:
> 1) by default, there is no keyboard layout controller on the panel. I think,
> that it should be there. A lot of people uses it in everyday's life.
> 2) as for battery monitor on the panel: it should be visible by default.
> This empty space looks really strange.
> 3) there is still pcmanfm 0.5.2, not pcmanfm2(
> 4) you have included "osmo" as a default program. My friends and me haven't
> heard about this program before. And in everyday life may be it is not so
> necessary to be included, I think.
> 5) without installing packages "xscreensaver-gl", "xscreensaver-gl-extra",
> "xscreensaver-data-extra" I see a lot of error messages telling me that
> there is no directory "/usr/share/backgrounds". It is annoying.
> 6) when I launch lxterminal, appeared the window without any string like
> this: "ubu...@ubuntu:~/". But when you hit any key on the keyboard it
> appears unexpectably.
> 7) some buttons such as "OK", "Cancel" just don't work (only hitting "Close
> Window" helped me to close the windows). It is so when you are configuring
> panel for example.
> 8) you have used LXDM as a login manager. It is perfect, but it has serious
> problems:
>      - when I enable autologin on it, I just can't switch my keyboard layout
> by hitting on the applet on the panel. Only typing "sudo lxpanelctl restart"
> helped me.
>      - there is no gui-program to configure LXDM yet. For a lot of people it
> will be hard to understand what do if they want enable "autologin" or so on.
>      - using LXDM I can't modify PATH variable (even modifying file
> /etc/profile), so I can't play any games using menu (Menu->Games->...). It
> won't work.
> 9) sound card by default doesn't work. So, I have gone to alsa-project.org,
> downloaded the latest driver, lib and utils, installed it. Run "sudo
> alsaconf" and after reboot I heart the sound.
> 10) I've got ati radeon 4670 video, but when I tried to install
> "xorg-driver-fglrx", it tells me that he wants to remove xorg with all its
> dependencies. Strange behaviour. So, I have only poor 3D now(
> 11) I've tried to install fskbsetting. But when launching it gives me
> "segmentation fault". I don't know why.
> 12) May be there should be some games, at least some gnome-games?
> So, this is my first experience.
> Regards,
> Michael.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Mike Nokel]

>
> Hi.

I have found some time to install it on my computer. In general, everything
looks and works perfectly. However, there are some problems:
1) by default, there is no keyboard layout controller on the panel. I think,
that it should be there. A lot of people uses it in everyday's life.
2) as for battery monitor on the panel: it should be visible by default.
This empty space looks really strange.
3) there is still pcmanfm 0.5.2, not pcmanfm2(
4) you have included "osmo" as a default program. My friends and me haven't
heard about this program before. And in everyday life may be it is not so
necessary to be included, I think.
5) without installing packages "xscreensaver-gl", "xscreensaver-gl-extra",
"xscreensaver-data-extra" I see a lot of error messages telling me that
there is no directory "/usr/share/backgrounds". It is annoying.
6) when I launch lxterminal, appeared the window without any string like
this: "ubu...@ubuntu:~/". But when you hit any key on the keyboard it
appears unexpectably.
7) some buttons such as "OK", "Cancel" just don't work (only hitting "Close
Window" helped me to close the windows). It is so when you are configuring
panel for example.
8) you have used LXDM as a login manager. It is perfect, but it has serious
problems:
 - when I enable autologin on it, I just can't switch my keyboard layout
by hitting on the applet on the panel. Only typing "sudo lxpanelctl restart"
helped me.
 - there is no gui-program to configure LXDM yet. For a lot of people it
will be hard to understand what do if they want enable "autologin" or so on.
 - using LXDM I can't modify PATH variable (even modifying file
/etc/profile), so I can't play any games using menu (Menu->Games->...). It
won't work.
9) sound card by default doesn't work. So, I have gone to alsa-project.org,
downloaded the latest driver, lib and utils, installed it. Run "sudo
alsaconf" and after reboot I heart the sound.
10) I've got ati radeon 4670 video, but when I tried to install
"xorg-driver-fglrx", it tells me that he wants to remove xorg with all its
dependencies. Strange behaviour. So, I have only poor 3D now(
11) I've tried to install fskbsetting. But when launching it gives me
"segmentation fault". I don't know why.
12) May be there should be some games, at least some gnome-games?

So, this is my first experience.

Regards,
Michael.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Julián Alarcón]

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Mike Nokel  wrote:
> 3) why have you choosen "xfburn" to include? I think that the most popular
> area for installing LXDE (and of course Lubuntu) are netbooks and they just
> don't have any CD/DVD-ROMs... In my opinion, it is unnecessary.

No, for netbooks there is UNE, Lubuntu is for old PC's. Low resources.
many of them have CD Burner.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Leszek Lesner]

Hi,
As I mentioned in my previous posting 
>Here a suggestion (also for all testers) set the panel size to 24 and the icon 
>size to 22. This way the panel here (on eeePC 701) looks much better. 
This will also fix the Networkicon 



On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 00:56:20 +0100
Julien Lavergne  wrote:

> Le lundi 15 février 2010 à 12:20 +, Glen Bizeau a écrit :
> > One more thing...
> > 
> > The connected ICON for Network Manager is two arrows, one up the other
> > down, which persdonally to me does not indicate a network connection.
> > Can we change this back to the default one of two computers? it
> > doesn't even look like a network manager this way, or at least even
> > the ubuntu one where it looks like two sockets plugged in...
> 
> You should file a bug against elementary icons
> (https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/elementaryicons), maybe they have a
> good reason to do it that way.
> 
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne  
> 
> 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Julien Lavergne]

Thanks for the test.

Le lundi 15 février 2010 à 16:23 -0500, Dwain Sims a écrit :
> Here is a quick report on the current cut on an older laptop.
> 
> HP Omnibook 910
> PIII 500 MHz
> 320 MB Memory
> with 3Com 3CCFEM556B 10/100 PC Card
> and SMC 2835W wireless card
> 
> Lubuntu seems to boot fine, a little slow, but it looks nice on the
> old LCD.   Eraser head style mouse seems to work fine.
> 
> However, I could not seem to find a way to configure the wireless
> card.  That is when I checked, and the distro is not detecting either
> of the two PC cards in the system.  So no report on browser speed.
You should have 2 arrows on the bottom right, which is the network
utility. If you see "device not manager", it's a problem in
network-manager. See http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkManager and the
section "Wired Networks are Unmanaged"

> The system did not automatically mount a flash drive.  I was able to
> mount manually.  
Yes, there is actually no automounting. Something that need to be fixed.

Regards,
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Julien Lavergne]

Thanks for the test.

Le lundi 15 février 2010 à 10:21 +0100, jo franz a écrit :
> great, i tested it. 
> i like it, it's easy to use, has nice artwork and doesnt need much
> ram.some things i noticed:
> - the screensaver-window gives error-messages at many screensavers. if
> we dont want them to be available, we should take them of the list.
See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xscreensaver/+bug/129769

> - thers also a little bug with the decision-square on the desktop (how
> do you call it? my english is quite bad, sorry): hold left and make a
> square, press right (still hold left), then choose pcmanfm and open
> it. close it, and youll still have the square without holding left or
> right. click anywhere so the square will stay, and now you can;t get
> it away. it will disappear if you make another one over it... 
Maybe it will disappear when we will change the file manager pcmanfm2.
Please hold on a little more before reporting it as a bug :)

Regards,
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Julien Lavergne]

Le lundi 15 février 2010 à 12:20 +, Glen Bizeau a écrit :
> One more thing...
> 
> The connected ICON for Network Manager is two arrows, one up the other
> down, which persdonally to me does not indicate a network connection.
> Can we change this back to the default one of two computers? it
> doesn't even look like a network manager this way, or at least even
> the ubuntu one where it looks like two sockets plugged in...

You should file a bug against elementary icons
(https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/elementaryicons), maybe they have a
good reason to do it that way.

Regards,
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Julien Lavergne]

Le lundi 15 février 2010 à 19:14 +0100, Leszek Lesner a écrit :
> On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:18:05 +
> Glen Bizeau  wrote:
> 
> > Did a quick download and run in a VBOX this AM.
> > 
> > Te first thing I noticed is the same stratup bar as fedora??? Whats
> > with that? you know what everyone will say!
> 
> It is simply plymouth (yeah Fedora invented it and Ubuntu is now using it 
> too). Seeing only the blue bar is a indicator that your graphicscard is not 
> supported well enough.
> In the final version nvidia (thx to nouveau) ati (open ati driver) and intel 
> will show a nice splash screen. 

It's also the case for any Vbox users, because if I understand right,
Vbox driver is not KMS capable inside the guest. You can test the
plymouth theme only on a real system.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne 


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Julien Lavergne]

Thanks for the report.

Le lundi 15 février 2010 à 18:54 +0300, Mike Nokel a écrit :

> However, there are some minor problems:
> 1) a lot of errors when changing screensavers. It can be solved by
> creating directory /usr/share/backgrounds by default.
See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xscreensaver/+bug/129769 

> 2) as was discussed earlier when clicking "Desktop Session Settings"
> the tab "Desktop" should be opened, not "Interface".
It's part of the pcmanfm2 integration, should be fixed at this point.

> 3) why have you choosen "xfburn" to include? I think that the most
> popular area for installing LXDE (and of course Lubuntu) are netbooks
> and they just don't have any CD/DVD-ROMs... In my opinion, it is
> unnecessary.
There is also old hardware with old CD burner. It's pretty common to
have a CD/DVD burner by default :)


> I have tested on my netbook HP 1233 - everything is working perfectly,
> and using by default 110 Mb out of 1Gb is impressive (with Ubuntu 9.10
> mini.iso + LXDE it uses after startup nearly 155 Mb). However, if
> there is xsplash I haven't seen it, may be because of my videocard
> (Via Chrome9), I don't know.
It's now plymouth which is used. It required kernel mode-settings,
available for ATI, Intel and for Nvidia via the nouveau driver. If it's
not available, you should fallback to a blue progress bar.

> I have also tried to run livecd on my notebook Asus M51TR. However,
> all that I have seen was Lubuntu logo for approximately 1 minute after
> what there came a kernel panic. I'll try to find solution but exactly
> now I don't know why it is happening so.
That will be interesting to test with a Ubuntu daily build, to see if
it's not a general problem for Lucid.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Steve]

On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:52:23 -, jo franz   
wrote:



2010/2/15 Steve 


On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:10:47 -, Jo Gerb 
wrote:


Ok, i built up an old System with Pentium (i don't know if II or IV,  
360
MHz) and 128 MBytes of RAM. It Takes very Long to boot and it First  
seems
like the pc wouldnt respond any more, but about 10 minutes with Black  
screen
you can see the panel and the Cursor- no Desktop and no icons there. I  
didnt

realize the arrow-Symbol to be the One for network, maybe we should use
another one. The System itself is extremely slow, but thats the  
hardware (im

just used to my 4gb RAM:-)) maybe we could use something else for the
graphics , like kolourpaint or so. The People we aim at are used to ms
paint, and what we offer them in lubuntu is too complicated. Ill go on  
in

testing and ill write again later. Have a nice time, Jo

 If you run hardinfo it will tell you what CPU you have along with  
other

useful (and not so useful) information.

   System Tools > System Profiler and Benchmark

It might be interesting to compare the benchmarks from that program.

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i ran hardinfo, but it just gave out a 0kb html. the second time, i got  
the

results. do you want the whole html? its a pII, and the results the
benchmarks gave are nothing to be proud of^^ running hardinfo, the panel
disappeared and i couldn't do anything. The system was still alive (ctrl  
alt
f1 opened a console), but i couldnt get back the panel. One more thing:  
do
we need six virtual consoles running (ctrl alt f1-6)? i guess lubuntu  
would

go faster with only one terminal there.

If the terminals are not in use, i.e. not running something, they don’t  
take any resources.


When I get my server back up and running I’ll try and do something with  
the hardinfo stuff, just as a comparison.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Steve]

On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:50:02 -, jeroen merks   
wrote:




Hello guys,
Im new at Lubuntu and mailinglists, but not for Ubuntu and Linux.Im  
following the mails for some time now...I joined you guys because I have  
very old laptop that is almost the same like discribed below and Xubuntu  
was a bit too slow for me.I experience the same things as discribed  
below.Very slow boot (usb1) and many graphical glitches when  
booting.After like 20 minutes I tried to install it but the shortcut  
didnt respond.Not really a surprize but I think it isnt the way it meant  
to be. If you guys have any questions I could test with my laptop please  
ask them.Just like sound and stuff...Im not sure this is the way to use  
a mailing list, but you guys look to be very nice.

Keep up the good work !


Did you manage to get Lubuntu installed?
Did you use this version (the latest)  
http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-lucid-20100215.iso


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Zoltan Matlak]

VERY nice! Looks (and feels) more and more professional. It's shaping up
nicely. Congrats.
Zoltan

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 2:13 AM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I just created a new testing ISO. This is not an Alpha, but just a
> snapshot of the current work to be able to test more the new features.
> Like others Alpha, you should be aware that it's not considered stable,
> see warnings for Lucid Alpha :
>
> "Pre-releases of Lucid are *not* encouraged for anyone needing a stable
> system or anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional, even
> frequent breakage.  They are, however, recommended for Ubuntu developers
> and those who want to help in testing, reporting, and fixing bugs."
>
> Changes seen the Alpha 2 :
> * Main changes in the seed :
>  - chromium for the browser
>  - gnome-mplayer for the videos
>  - network-manager for the network
> * New artwork made by Rafael Laguna. It's not the final theme, but it's
> quite complete, so we can test with a non standard artwork. And I like
> it :)
> * A new session (Lubuntu-Netbook), which launched lxlauncher. You need
> to logout, select Lubuntu-Netbook session instead of Lubuntu, and enter
> login "ubuntu" without password.
>
> Known bugs:
> * pcmanfm2 is not the default filemanager yet, it need more integration
> to be usable. It is still available by using "pcmanfm2"
> * If you test on a USB, the first screen will freeze for a moment when
> you click on "Try Lubuntu ...". Just wait, it will continue as normal.
> * Bug reported during testing :
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam
>
> Download : 
> http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-lucid-20100215.iso
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
>
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Dwain Sims]

Here is a quick report on the current cut on an older laptop.

HP Omnibook 910
PIII 500 MHz
320 MB Memory
with 3Com 3CCFEM556B 10/100 PC Card
and SMC 2835W wireless card

Lubuntu seems to boot fine, a little slow, but it looks nice on the old
LCD.   Eraser head style mouse seems to work fine.

However, I could not seem to find a way to configure the wireless card.
That is when I checked, and the distro is not detecting either of the two PC
cards in the system.  So no report on browser speed.

The system did not automatically mount a flash drive.  I was able to mount
manually.

Sound does work;  I was able to play an ogg file via mplayer off of the
flash drive.

Hope this helps.

Dwain
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Steve]

On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:54:25 -, Mike Nokel  wrote:


Hi!
It's great! Nice artwork! Respect for including such applications as
"hardware drivers", "printing", "languages" by default. It now looks very
user-friendly.
However, there are some minor problems:



3) why have you choosen "xfburn" to include? I think that the most  
popular
area for installing LXDE (and of course Lubuntu) are netbooks and they  
just

don't have any CD/DVD-ROMs... In my opinion, it is unnecessary.

Because not everybody will be using it on a Netbook,  it’s hope it will be  
used to recycle old desktops.





In conclusion, I would like to say that it looks perfect and amazing.  
Thank

you!

Regards,
Michael.



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Glen Bizeau]

VBOX

installed in a virtual machine, see "grub loading" and then a _

Thats it...anyone have any insight into this?

Live CD works fine.

Thanks

Glen

On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just created a new testing ISO. This is not an Alpha, but just a
> snapshot of the current work to be able to test more the new features.
> Like others Alpha, you should be aware that it's not considered stable,
> see warnings for Lucid Alpha :
>
> "Pre-releases of Lucid are *not* encouraged for anyone needing a stable
> system or anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional, even
> frequent breakage.  They are, however, recommended for Ubuntu developers
> and those who want to help in testing, reporting, and fixing bugs."
>
> Changes seen the Alpha 2 :
> * Main changes in the seed :
>  - chromium for the browser
>  - gnome-mplayer for the videos
>  - network-manager for the network
> * New artwork made by Rafael Laguna. It's not the final theme, but it's
> quite complete, so we can test with a non standard artwork. And I like
> it :)
> * A new session (Lubuntu-Netbook), which launched lxlauncher. You need
> to logout, select Lubuntu-Netbook session instead of Lubuntu, and enter
> login "ubuntu" without password.
>
> Known bugs:
> * pcmanfm2 is not the default filemanager yet, it need more integration
> to be usable. It is still available by using "pcmanfm2"
> * If you test on a USB, the first screen will freeze for a moment when
> you click on "Try Lubuntu ...". Just wait, it will continue as normal.
> * Bug reported during testing :
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam
>
> Download : http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-lucid-20100215.iso
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
>
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Steve]

On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:10:47 -, Jo Gerb   
wrote:



Ok, i built up an old System with Pentium (i don't know if II or IV, 360  
MHz) and 128 MBytes of RAM. It Takes very Long to boot and it First seems  
like the pc wouldnt respond any more, but about 10 minutes with Black  
screen you can see the panel and the Cursor- no Desktop and no icons  
there. I didnt realize the arrow-Symbol to be the One for network, maybe  
we should use another one. The System itself is extremely slow, but thats  
the hardware (im just used to my 4gb RAM:-)) maybe we could use something  
else for the graphics , like kolourpaint or so. The People we aim at are  
used to ms paint, and what we offer them in lubuntu is too complicated.  
Ill go on in testing and ill write again later. Have a nice time, Jo


If you run hardinfo it will tell you what CPU you have along with other  
useful (and not so useful) information.


System Tools > System Profiler and Benchmark

It might be interesting to compare the benchmarks from that program.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Steve]

On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:10:47 -, Jo Gerb   
wrote:




Ok, i built up an old System with Pentium (i don't know if II or IV, 360  
MHz) and 128 MBytes of RAM. It Takes very Long to boot and it First  
seems like the pc wouldnt respond any more, but about 10 minutes with  
Black screen you can see the panel and the Cursor- no Desktop and no  
icons there. I didnt realize the arrow-Symbol to be the One for network,  
maybe we should use another one. The System itself is extremely slow,  
but thats the hardware (im just used to my 4gb RAM:-)) maybe we could  
use something else for the graphics , like kolourpaint or so. The People  
we aim at are used to ms paint, and what we offer them in lubuntu is too  
complicated. Ill go on in testing and ill write again later. Have a nice  
time, Jo


That’s a similar rig to the one I’m using to test on. It’s more than  
likely a PII CPU at that speed, by the way.
Have you tested sound yet, I had to install a driver as on mine.   
Interesting running with minimal resources isn’t it. :)

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Jo Gerb]

Ok, i built up an old System with Pentium (i don't know if II or IV,  
360 MHz) and 128 MBytes of RAM. It Takes very Long to boot and it  
First seems like the pc wouldnt respond any more, but about 10 minutes  
with Black screen you can see the panel and the Cursor- no Desktop and  
no icons there. I didnt realize the arrow-Symbol to be the One for  
network, maybe we should use another one. The System itself is  
extremely slow, but thats the hardware (im just used to my 4gb RAM:-))  
maybe we could use something else for the graphics , like kolourpaint  
or so. The People we aim at are used to ms paint, and what we offer  
them in lubuntu is too complicated. Ill go on in testing and ill write  
again later. Have a nice time, Jo


Am 15.02.2010 um 19:14 schrieb Leszek Lesner :


On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:18:05 +
Glen Bizeau  wrote:


Did a quick download and run in a VBOX this AM.

Te first thing I noticed is the same stratup bar as fedora??? Whats
with that? you know what everyone will say!


It is simply plymouth (yeah Fedora invented it and Ubuntu is now  
using it too). Seeing only the blue bar is a indicator that your  
graphicscard is not supported well enough.
In the final version nvidia (thx to nouveau) ati (open ati driver)  
and intel will show a nice splash screen.





Other than that, I like it, running it in a VBOX with 384 RAM,
everything seems snappy. Will do further testing and post any bugs I
find later.

Thanks Julien.

Glen



On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Julien Lavergne   
wrote:

Hi,

I just created a new testing ISO. This is not an Alpha, but just a
snapshot of the current work to be able to test more the new  
features.
Like others Alpha, you should be aware that it's not considered  
stable,

see warnings for Lucid Alpha :

"Pre-releases of Lucid are *not* encouraged for anyone needing a  
stable
system or anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional,  
even
frequent breakage.  They are, however, recommended for Ubuntu  
developers

and those who want to help in testing, reporting, and fixing bugs."

Changes seen the Alpha 2 :
* Main changes in the seed :
 - chromium for the browser
 - gnome-mplayer for the videos
 - network-manager for the network
* New artwork made by Rafael Laguna. It's not the final theme, but  
it's
quite complete, so we can test with a non standard artwork. And I  
like

it :)
* A new session (Lubuntu-Netbook), which launched lxlauncher. You  
need
to logout, select Lubuntu-Netbook session instead of Lubuntu, and  
enter

login "ubuntu" without password.

Known bugs:
* pcmanfm2 is not the default filemanager yet, it need more  
integration

to be usable. It is still available by using "pcmanfm2"
* If you test on a USB, the first screen will freeze for a moment  
when
you click on "Try Lubuntu ...". Just wait, it will continue as  
normal.

* Bug reported during testing :
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam

Download : http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu- 
lucid-20100215.iso


Regards,
Julien Lavergne



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Leszek Lesner]

On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:18:05 +
Glen Bizeau  wrote:

> Did a quick download and run in a VBOX this AM.
> 
> Te first thing I noticed is the same stratup bar as fedora??? Whats
> with that? you know what everyone will say!

It is simply plymouth (yeah Fedora invented it and Ubuntu is now using it too). 
Seeing only the blue bar is a indicator that your graphicscard is not supported 
well enough.
In the final version nvidia (thx to nouveau) ati (open ati driver) and intel 
will show a nice splash screen. 


> 
> Other than that, I like it, running it in a VBOX with 384 RAM,
> everything seems snappy. Will do further testing and post any bugs I
> find later.
> 
> Thanks Julien.
> 
> Glen
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I just created a new testing ISO. This is not an Alpha, but just a
> > snapshot of the current work to be able to test more the new features.
> > Like others Alpha, you should be aware that it's not considered stable,
> > see warnings for Lucid Alpha :
> >
> > "Pre-releases of Lucid are *not* encouraged for anyone needing a stable
> > system or anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional, even
> > frequent breakage.  They are, however, recommended for Ubuntu developers
> > and those who want to help in testing, reporting, and fixing bugs."
> >
> > Changes seen the Alpha 2 :
> > * Main changes in the seed :
> >  - chromium for the browser
> >  - gnome-mplayer for the videos
> >  - network-manager for the network
> > * New artwork made by Rafael Laguna. It's not the final theme, but it's
> > quite complete, so we can test with a non standard artwork. And I like
> > it :)
> > * A new session (Lubuntu-Netbook), which launched lxlauncher. You need
> > to logout, select Lubuntu-Netbook session instead of Lubuntu, and enter
> > login "ubuntu" without password.
> >
> > Known bugs:
> > * pcmanfm2 is not the default filemanager yet, it need more integration
> > to be usable. It is still available by using "pcmanfm2"
> > * If you test on a USB, the first screen will freeze for a moment when
> > you click on "Try Lubuntu ...". Just wait, it will continue as normal.
> > * Bug reported during testing :
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam
> >
> > Download : http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-lucid-20100215.iso
> >
> > Regards,
> > Julien Lavergne
> >
> >
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Mike Nokel]

Hi!
It's great! Nice artwork! Respect for including such applications as
"hardware drivers", "printing", "languages" by default. It now looks very
user-friendly.
However, there are some minor problems:
1) a lot of errors when changing screensavers. It can be solved by creating
directory /usr/share/backgrounds by default.
2) as was discussed earlier when clicking "Desktop Session Settings" the tab
"Desktop" should be opened, not "Interface".
3) why have you choosen "xfburn" to include? I think that the most popular
area for installing LXDE (and of course Lubuntu) are netbooks and they just
don't have any CD/DVD-ROMs... In my opinion, it is unnecessary.

I have tested on my netbook HP 1233 - everything is working perfectly, and
using by default 110 Mb out of 1Gb is impressive (with Ubuntu 9.10 mini.iso
+ LXDE it uses after startup nearly 155 Mb). However, if there is xsplash I
haven't seen it, may be because of my videocard (Via Chrome9), I don't know.

I have also tried to run livecd on my notebook Asus M51TR. However, all that
I have seen was Lubuntu logo for approximately 1 minute after what there
came a kernel panic. I'll try to find solution but exactly now I don't know
why it is happening so.

In conclusion, I would like to say that it looks perfect and amazing. Thank
you!

Regards,
Michael.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Steve]

On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:46:11 -, Steve   
wrote:


On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 01:13:19 -, Julien Lavergne   
wrote:



Hi,

I just created a new testing ISO. This is not an Alpha, but just a
snapshot of the current work to be able to test more the new features.
Like others Alpha, you should be aware that it's not considered stable,
see warnings for Lucid Alpha :

"Pre-releases of Lucid are *not* encouraged for anyone needing a stable
system or anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional, even
frequent breakage.  They are, however, recommended for Ubuntu developers
and those who want to help in testing, reporting, and fixing bugs."

Changes seen the Alpha 2 :
* Main changes in the seed :
 - chromium for the browser
 - gnome-mplayer for the videos
 - network-manager for the network
* New artwork made by Rafael Laguna. It's not the final theme, but it's
quite complete, so we can test with a non standard artwork. And I like
it :)
* A new session (Lubuntu-Netbook), which launched lxlauncher. You need
to logout, select Lubuntu-Netbook session instead of Lubuntu, and enter
login "ubuntu" without password.

Known bugs:
* pcmanfm2 is not the default filemanager yet, it need more integration
to be usable. It is still available by using "pcmanfm2"
* If you test on a USB, the first screen will freeze for a moment when
you click on "Try Lubuntu ...". Just wait, it will continue as normal.
* Bug reported during testing :
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam

Download : http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-lucid-20100215.iso

Regards,
Julien Lavergne


Currently booting, will let you know in 3-4 hours whether a fresh  
install is a success or not.


I’m impressed so far 1hr 45 mins to install.  Beats the old alpha2 at 3-4  
hours.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Dallas Wiebelhaus]

This is shaping up very very well.

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 7:46 AM, Steve  wrote:

> On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 01:13:19 -, Julien Lavergne 
> wrote:
>
>  Hi,
>>
>> I just created a new testing ISO. This is not an Alpha, but just a
>> snapshot of the current work to be able to test more the new features.
>> Like others Alpha, you should be aware that it's not considered stable,
>> see warnings for Lucid Alpha :
>>
>> "Pre-releases of Lucid are *not* encouraged for anyone needing a stable
>> system or anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional, even
>> frequent breakage.  They are, however, recommended for Ubuntu developers
>> and those who want to help in testing, reporting, and fixing bugs."
>>
>> Changes seen the Alpha 2 :
>> * Main changes in the seed :
>>  - chromium for the browser
>>  - gnome-mplayer for the videos
>>  - network-manager for the network
>> * New artwork made by Rafael Laguna. It's not the final theme, but it's
>> quite complete, so we can test with a non standard artwork. And I like
>> it :)
>> * A new session (Lubuntu-Netbook), which launched lxlauncher. You need
>> to logout, select Lubuntu-Netbook session instead of Lubuntu, and enter
>> login "ubuntu" without password.
>>
>> Known bugs:
>> * pcmanfm2 is not the default filemanager yet, it need more integration
>> to be usable. It is still available by using "pcmanfm2"
>> * If you test on a USB, the first screen will freeze for a moment when
>> you click on "Try Lubuntu ...". Just wait, it will continue as normal.
>> * Bug reported during testing :
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam
>>
>> Download : 
>> http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-lucid-20100215.iso
>>
>> Regards,
>> Julien Lavergne
>>
>>
>>  Currently booting, will let you know in 3-4 hours whether a fresh install
> is a success or not.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Steve]

On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 01:13:19 -, Julien Lavergne   
wrote:



Hi,

I just created a new testing ISO. This is not an Alpha, but just a
snapshot of the current work to be able to test more the new features.
Like others Alpha, you should be aware that it's not considered stable,
see warnings for Lucid Alpha :

"Pre-releases of Lucid are *not* encouraged for anyone needing a stable
system or anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional, even
frequent breakage.  They are, however, recommended for Ubuntu developers
and those who want to help in testing, reporting, and fixing bugs."

Changes seen the Alpha 2 :
* Main changes in the seed :
 - chromium for the browser
 - gnome-mplayer for the videos
 - network-manager for the network
* New artwork made by Rafael Laguna. It's not the final theme, but it's
quite complete, so we can test with a non standard artwork. And I like
it :)
* A new session (Lubuntu-Netbook), which launched lxlauncher. You need
to logout, select Lubuntu-Netbook session instead of Lubuntu, and enter
login "ubuntu" without password.

Known bugs:
* pcmanfm2 is not the default filemanager yet, it need more integration
to be usable. It is still available by using "pcmanfm2"
* If you test on a USB, the first screen will freeze for a moment when
you click on "Try Lubuntu ...". Just wait, it will continue as normal.
* Bug reported during testing :
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam

Download : http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-lucid-20100215.iso

Regards,
Julien Lavergne


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Glen Bizeau]

One more thing...

The connected ICON for Network Manager is two arrows, one up the other
down, which persdonally to me does not indicate a network connection.
Can we change this back to the default one of two computers? it
doesn't even look like a network manager this way, or at least even
the ubuntu one where it looks like two sockets plugged in...

Glen



On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Glen Bizeau  wrote:
> Did a quick download and run in a VBOX this AM.
>
> Te first thing I noticed is the same stratup bar as fedora??? Whats
> with that? you know what everyone will say!
>
> Other than that, I like it, running it in a VBOX with 384 RAM,
> everything seems snappy. Will do further testing and post any bugs I
> find later.
>
> Thanks Julien.
>
> Glen
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just created a new testing ISO. This is not an Alpha, but just a
>> snapshot of the current work to be able to test more the new features.
>> Like others Alpha, you should be aware that it's not considered stable,
>> see warnings for Lucid Alpha :
>>
>> "Pre-releases of Lucid are *not* encouraged for anyone needing a stable
>> system or anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional, even
>> frequent breakage.  They are, however, recommended for Ubuntu developers
>> and those who want to help in testing, reporting, and fixing bugs."
>>
>> Changes seen the Alpha 2 :
>> * Main changes in the seed :
>>  - chromium for the browser
>>  - gnome-mplayer for the videos
>>  - network-manager for the network
>> * New artwork made by Rafael Laguna. It's not the final theme, but it's
>> quite complete, so we can test with a non standard artwork. And I like
>> it :)
>> * A new session (Lubuntu-Netbook), which launched lxlauncher. You need
>> to logout, select Lubuntu-Netbook session instead of Lubuntu, and enter
>> login "ubuntu" without password.
>>
>> Known bugs:
>> * pcmanfm2 is not the default filemanager yet, it need more integration
>> to be usable. It is still available by using "pcmanfm2"
>> * If you test on a USB, the first screen will freeze for a moment when
>> you click on "Try Lubuntu ...". Just wait, it will continue as normal.
>> * Bug reported during testing :
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam
>>
>> Download : http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-lucid-20100215.iso
>>
>> Regards,
>> Julien Lavergne
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Glen Bizeau]

Did a quick download and run in a VBOX this AM.

Te first thing I noticed is the same stratup bar as fedora??? Whats
with that? you know what everyone will say!

Other than that, I like it, running it in a VBOX with 384 RAM,
everything seems snappy. Will do further testing and post any bugs I
find later.

Thanks Julien.

Glen



On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just created a new testing ISO. This is not an Alpha, but just a
> snapshot of the current work to be able to test more the new features.
> Like others Alpha, you should be aware that it's not considered stable,
> see warnings for Lucid Alpha :
>
> "Pre-releases of Lucid are *not* encouraged for anyone needing a stable
> system or anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional, even
> frequent breakage.  They are, however, recommended for Ubuntu developers
> and those who want to help in testing, reporting, and fixing bugs."
>
> Changes seen the Alpha 2 :
> * Main changes in the seed :
>  - chromium for the browser
>  - gnome-mplayer for the videos
>  - network-manager for the network
> * New artwork made by Rafael Laguna. It's not the final theme, but it's
> quite complete, so we can test with a non standard artwork. And I like
> it :)
> * A new session (Lubuntu-Netbook), which launched lxlauncher. You need
> to logout, select Lubuntu-Netbook session instead of Lubuntu, and enter
> login "ubuntu" without password.
>
> Known bugs:
> * pcmanfm2 is not the default filemanager yet, it need more integration
> to be usable. It is still available by using "pcmanfm2"
> * If you test on a USB, the first screen will freeze for a moment when
> you click on "Try Lubuntu ...". Just wait, it will continue as normal.
> * Bug reported during testing :
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam
>
> Download : http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-lucid-20100215.iso
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
>
>
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Dallas Wiebelhaus]

Alright! Thanks mate.

On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I just created a new testing ISO. This is not an Alpha, but just a
> snapshot of the current work to be able to test more the new features.
> Like others Alpha, you should be aware that it's not considered stable,
> see warnings for Lucid Alpha :
>
> "Pre-releases of Lucid are *not* encouraged for anyone needing a stable
> system or anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional, even
> frequent breakage.  They are, however, recommended for Ubuntu developers
> and those who want to help in testing, reporting, and fixing bugs."
>
> Changes seen the Alpha 2 :
> * Main changes in the seed :
>  - chromium for the browser
>  - gnome-mplayer for the videos
>  - network-manager for the network
> * New artwork made by Rafael Laguna. It's not the final theme, but it's
> quite complete, so we can test with a non standard artwork. And I like
> it :)
> * A new session (Lubuntu-Netbook), which launched lxlauncher. You need
> to logout, select Lubuntu-Netbook session instead of Lubuntu, and enter
> login "ubuntu" without password.
>
> Known bugs:
> * pcmanfm2 is not the default filemanager yet, it need more integration
> to be usable. It is still available by using "pcmanfm2"
> * If you test on a USB, the first screen will freeze for a moment when
> you click on "Try Lubuntu ...". Just wait, it will continue as normal.
> * Bug reported during testing :
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam
>
> Download : http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-lucid-20100215.iso
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
>
>
>
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