Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

2016-10-09 Thread Mark Tinka
On 8/Oct/16 14:31, James Makumbi wrote: > And I am saying access is licked! > It is done! > Let us start talking about leveraging that access and steering new > investment into content. > Now is the time for local hosting, Data centers and the next things > that come with good access. > We have

Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

2016-10-08 Thread Kyle Spencer
Then it probably wasn't related to infrastructure. If it was service level, perhaps it violated net neutrality? On Oct 8, 2016 11:34 AM, "James Makumbi" wrote: > Kyle, > I came up with a solution to make access to the networks cheaper and you > were very against it. > > > >

Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

2016-10-08 Thread James Makumbi
Kyle, I came up with a solution to make access to the networks cheaper and you were very against it. James S. K. Makumbi Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited - Phone: 0783354036 - Mobile: 0790834364 - Website: billable.co.ug - Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug

Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

2016-10-08 Thread paul muwanguzi
Thanks a lot James. Sorry my phone just recent the old message. This is helpful info. Slow but steady is good for now. Thanks On Saturday, 8 October 2016, paul muwanguzi wrote: > Thanks guys, this convo has helped me confirm a lot of ideas that have > been on my mind

Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

2016-10-08 Thread paul muwanguzi
Thanks guys, this convo has helped me confirm a lot of ideas that have been on my mind for a number of years and intensified the past few months. I believe it's time for the next stage, the government has done a great deal and is still working on a lot more for the IT infrustructure establishment

Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

2016-10-08 Thread Kyle Spencer
I do not recall saying that we should not aim to reduce the cost of service delivery, or that we should not try to increase penetration. On Oct 8, 2016 11:09 AM, "James Makumbi" wrote: > Kyle, > I say access is licked because you (my internet conscience) told me not to >

Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

2016-10-08 Thread James Makumbi
Paul, Let me blow your mind with what is happening currently by quoting some people I have been talking to. "Phase 1: The NBI just got connected to NMS a couple of days ago. We have just tested the internet (4mbs), it seems okay. Next we are going to transfer the IFMS to the NBI. Phase2: We

Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

2016-10-08 Thread James Makumbi
Kyle, I say access is licked because you (my internet conscience) told me not to mess with price. You said it will sort itself out "eventually". I hope you enjoy the quotes I have sent and will be willing to guide us leverage these resources into developmental usage. James S. K. Makumbi

Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

2016-10-08 Thread paul muwanguzi
Thanks guys, this convo has helped me confirm a lot of ideas that have been on my mind for a number of years and intensified the past few months. I believe it's time for the next stage, the government has done a great deal and is still working on a lot more for the IT infrustructure establishment

Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

2016-10-08 Thread Kyle Spencer
Access is not licked, either in terms of cost, capacity, or penetration -- but we are on the right track as a country. However, you are correct to suggest that we now have a sufficiently enabling environment to allow for more interesting network content and services :) On Oct 8, 2016 08:44,

Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

2016-10-08 Thread James Makumbi
And I am saying access is licked! It is done! Let us start talking about leveraging that access and steering new investment into content. Now is the time for local hosting, Data centers and the next things that come with good access. We have challenges such as access to reliable power. If we move

Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

2016-10-08 Thread Kyle Spencer
I wasn't suggesting it was a panacea. You asked how infrastructure sharing and other improvements were benefiting Ugandans. I explained how. Remember that people can't even begin to think about content issues if they can't access networks in the first place (due to lack of availability,

Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

2016-10-08 Thread James Makumbi
Kyle, we always keep coming back to this. Somehow everyone believes "access to internet" is a panacea to all our problems. What I am asking for is that we do more than give access. There are reports and statistics that pretty much show we have access licked. We have over 95% coverage of our

Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

2016-10-08 Thread Kyle Spencer
The cost of Internet access in Uganda is not entirely within the control of ISPs who operate here, nor is it solely a matter of which last mile technology is used :) On Oct 8, 2016 07:38, "Roy Mukasa" wrote: > Guys i think those costs could be achievable if ISPs decide to use

Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

2016-10-08 Thread Kyle Spencer
It has lowered the cost of access, improved performance, and increased reliability. On Oct 8, 2016 07:35, "James Makumbi" wrote: > You have just explained how ISPs use the infrastructure to make money. > How does that help the average Ugandan? > > > > > > > James S. K.

Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

2016-10-08 Thread James Makumbi
You have just explained how ISPs use the infrastructure to make money. How does that help the average Ugandan? James S. K. Makumbi Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited - Phone: 0783354036 - Mobile: 0790834364 - Website: billable.co.ug - Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug

Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

2016-10-08 Thread Kyle Spencer
James, Many ISPs use the NBI, BCS, and other fibre cables to reach Uganda's borders and upcountry markets. Perhaps every MNO in the country uses Eaton or ATC for their tower infrastructure. Many MNOs and ISPs use ProjectLink in Kampala/Entebbe/Mukono. The UIXP, for example, has at least 5 peers

Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

2016-10-08 Thread Roy Mukasa
Guys i think those costs could be achievable if ISPs decide to use solutions such as Hydrotec (read more http://www.craley.com/atlantis-hydrotec/ ). Greencom in South Africa is using similar technologies for the Fibre to the home (FTTH) last mile. Read

Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

2016-10-08 Thread James Makumbi
Kyle, other than setting up the fiber and alleging that it is available, what coutrywide initiative have we seen using it? Between you and me, the NBI to every district office turned out to be a white elephant. I am checking with Gov't heads of IT and I will get back to you on this. James

Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

2016-10-08 Thread paul muwanguzi
That's what I thought Kyle. Though what if the future is now ? :D On Saturday, 8 October 2016, Kyle Spencer wrote: > Paul, > > 40Mbps at 300k is unrealistic given the current cost of wholesale > bandwidth in Uganda -- though it might be possible in a few years :) > >

Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

2016-10-08 Thread Kyle Spencer
Paul, 40Mbps at 300k is unrealistic given the current cost of wholesale bandwidth in Uganda -- though it might be possible in a few years :) Regards, Kyle Spencer On Oct 8, 2016 06:44, "paul muwanguzi" wrote: > That's true Kyle. > > However the reason as to why I

Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

2016-10-08 Thread Kyle Spencer
James, It has been working for the country, not just the companies (and government, which owns the NBI). There's more to do, but we have come a long way thanks to initiatives like these. Regards, Kyle Spencer On Oct 8, 2016 06:50, "James Makumbi" wrote: Kyle, I just want

Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

2016-10-08 Thread James Makumbi
Kyle, I just want the fiber to actually work for the country instead of for the companies selling it. Paul, WOW!!! That is massive. I hope someone here can confirm or refute that. Maybe the internet price wars have finally began and we might see a race for the bottom soon. James S. K.

Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

2016-10-08 Thread paul muwanguzi
That's true Kyle. However the reason as to why I asked the above question, is because a few days a go I filled in a quationnare that was presented to me by someone on behalf of zuku . Towards the end of the questionnaire was a comparison of bandwidth price lists from various ISPs , and I was

Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

2016-10-08 Thread Kyle Spencer
You'll be glad to know that infrastructure sharing is a growing trend in Uganda, and has been for some time (thanks, in part, to government support for the concept). See also: Eaton Towers, ProjectLink, NBI On Oct 8, 2016 06:14, "James Makumbi" wrote: > That is the problem

Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

2016-10-08 Thread James Makumbi
That is the problem with my country! We do absolutely nothing together. Everyone has their own mobile money, their own fiber! If we were first world, we would probably even have our own standards!!! There are some things that need to be standardized, controlled and merged. James S. K.

[LUG] Zuku fiber

2016-10-08 Thread paul muwanguzi
Hi guys, Does anyone have some conclusive facts on zuku fiber bandwidth rates? -- Sent from My Cellphone ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list