From: Michael Thames [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:37:32 -0600
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu, Stuart LeBlanc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Blind players and memory
Performance from memory, and improvisation are two completely
different things
not entirely. Improvisation
btw, we've got a blind player in our ranks. It's Matthew Wadsworth, and
you can contact and ask him
http://www.matthewwadsworth.com/index.htm
Best wishes,
Mathias
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That's very interesting, since this questionable translation seems to have
defined the western understanding of the four arts. From what I understand in
Japan it does refer to the biwa, which corresponds directly to the lute.
Must
I give up the bragging rights I have claimed at the Go club??
Sorry, not misinformed. Nor trivia, unless you think non-western cultures are
inherently trivial.
Connect the dots: lute - al'ud - sarod - p'ip'a - biwa
In ancient China and Japan, the equivalent of the western liberal arts was the
Four Accomplishments, which included painting,
Hi all,
nothing important, ... ;-)
One colleague at the University was cleaning his directories, and found
some old photos, taken in 2003, of my then new Dieffopruchar theorbo:
http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/Teorbi011203/
Isn't the instrument beautiful... :-)
Arto
To get on
I've had a delightful weekend with an out of town visitor here to Cleveland,
Indeed it was, in part due to Kenneth's enthusiasm.
yes the very Roman Turovsky has been here to present some music to the
Ukrainian cultural community played on the 13 course. Yesterday I assisted a
little
in
This type of thinking seems deeply imbedded in the lute world, but one
doesn't find this thinking in other realms as much.
I guess my mistake was to elevate the lute to the status of great solo
pianists, cellists, violinists and guitarists, in such a way that it would
fill a concert hall of
Indeed it is!
Joseph Mayes
On 4/12/05 7:29 AM, Arto Wikla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
nothing important, ... ;-)
One colleague at the University was cleaning his directories, and found
some old photos, taken in 2003, of my then new Dieffopruchar theorbo:
On the contrary, like - but certainly not in the same league as - Pat
O'brian, Paul O'Dette, Ron Macfarlane, H. Smith, etc. etc. etc... I began on
the guitar.
JM
On 4/12/05 7:56 AM, Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What? You don't play guitar either?
RT
We all have failing that
Absolutely. And priapic as well.
RT
Indeed it is!
Joseph Mayes
On 4/12/05 7:29 AM, Arto Wikla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
nothing important, ... ;-)
One colleague at the University was cleaning his directories, and found
some old photos, taken in 2003, of my then new
The only reciato I've had was Amarone, and that was a pretty
intensely flavored red wine. Not something to go with a simple meal.
Are there white reciotos as well?
Tim
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Subject: RE: guitarists
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005
Recioto means coming from RECI (dialectal of ORECCHIE=ears), i.e. the part
of grape-bunch that gets the most sun. I've never seen a white version
though. We should ask Paolo Declich Paolo?.
RT
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Roman M. Turovsky
http://polyhymnion.org/swv
The only recioto I've had was
Tim wrote:
The only reciato I've had was Amarone, and that was a pretty
intensely flavored red wine. Not something to go with a simple meal.
Are there white reciotos as well?
Reciotto di Valpolicella Amarone is the DOC (or Italtian legal) name of the
wine. The intense flavor comes from the
I've had a delightful weekend with an out of town visitor here to
Cleveland,
yes the very Roman Turovsky has been here to present some music to the
Ukrainian cultural community played on the 13 course.
Sounds absolutely riveting!!! The Ukraine has culture?
For everybody's info: since its
There are 2 types, one sweet, one not. Of the latter- one easily found is
Amarone.
RT
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Roman M. Turovsky
http://polyhymnion.org/swv
I'm not familiar with that wine but from what I just read it sounds
intriguing.
I would wonder if it would be quixotic to pair such a wine with a
BTW the three liberal arts known as the trivium include grammar.
In Taos, in the house of the hanged man, the rope is a wrong thing to talk
about.
RT
I'll happily concede to a few miss spelled words and over used commas,
with a little study this can be fixed.
However, there is no amount of
BTW the three liberal arts known as the trivium include grammar.
In Taos, in the house of the hanged man, the rope is a wrong thing to talk
about.
RT
I'll happily concede to a few miss spelled words and over used commas,
with a little study this can be fixed.
Misspell and Overuse are single
In a message dated 4/12/05 6:49:26 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
There are 2 types, one sweet, one not. Of the latter- one easily found is
Amarone.
RT
And if you are on a budget try a ripasso which is wine pressed through the
skins and pulp from Amarone (which is made from grapes which
This is a prerogative of big boys like Barto, Egüez, Karamazov et alia,
not
clowns like you.
RT
I would quite honestly say they have very little choice in the
matter, for the most part their, lucky to play in the church down the street
from you.
If more than a few hundred show up at the
This is a prerogative of big boys like Barto, Egüez, Karamazov et alia,
not
clowns like you.
RT
I would quite honestly say they have very little choice in the
matter, for the most part their, lucky to play in the church down the street
from you.
If more than a few hundred show up at the
Sounds absolutely riveting!!! The Ukraine has culture?
For everybody's info: since its independence Ukraine is no longer written
with the article the, because it caused the inference that there was
more
than one.
As to culture: Michael tends to mistake his crystal collection for it.
RT
Francesco
Not everybody is fit to hold a buffalo-milk mozzarella dripping whey.
RT
I'm glad you think so highly of your products, Michelangelo!
Michael Thames
www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com
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From: Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Francesco Tribioli [EMAIL
However, there is no amount of study for thick as a brick syndrome .
Michael Thames
Absolutely. Especially the thick as an adobe-brick syndrome.
RT
Warm in the winter, and cool in the summer.
BTW, Roman I did a spell check on you... not a pretty sight.
Michael Thames
There are 2 types, one sweet, one not. Of the latter- one easily found is
Amarone.
RT
And if you are on a budget try a ripasso which is wine pressed through the
skins and pulp from Amarone (which is made from grapes which are dried for
six months...molte forte)
Or give a try to
There are 2 types, one sweet, one not. Of the latter- one easily found is
Amarone.
RT
And if you are on a budget try a ripasso which is wine pressed through the
skins and pulp from Amarone (which is made from grapes which are dried for
six months...molte forte)
On a real budget a good
In a message dated 4/12/05 7:47:29 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On a real budget a good thing is Primitivo di Manduria.
RT
Certo...
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2 interesting details:
1. Carbon strings held tuning throughout the 10-hour overnight ride to
Cleveland. 11th course octave was a little flat in the morning. I didn't
touch a peg for the rest of the weekend.
2. Our program is on a controversial side, and it might (and should) have
caused
I looked it up, there is a DOGC Recioto di Soave which is white, like plain old
Soave. Like Roman said, all Recioto is made from the ears of grape bunches,
and they are dried before being pressed, frequently affected by moderate noble
rot.
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From: Craig Allen
Or look to Spain, where there are some terrific values coming from Rioja,
Jumilla, or Priorato.
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P.S.
2 interesting details:
1. Carbon strings held tuning throughout the 10-hour overnight ride to
Cleveland. 11th course octave was a little flat in the morning. I didn't
touch a peg for the rest of the weekend
Or maybe, you just can't tune the thing, and settle for something within the
ball
Hey! There is an easy way: Just put the string to water. If it clearly
sinks, it is hevier than water, which is just as heavy as nylon! So the
string material is hevier than nylon and water. Perhaps carbon, or
at least non-nylon.
Two caveats:
1. Watch out for bubbles adhering to the
1. Carbon strings held tuning throughout the 10-hour overnight ride to
Cleveland. 11th course octave was a little flat in the morning. I didn't
touch a peg for the rest of the weekend
So let me get this straight, your saying over a three day period from NY.
In different rooms, hotel, houses,
I looked it up, there is a DOGC Recioto di Soave which is white, like plain
old
Soave. Like Roman said, all Recioto is made from the ears of grape bunches,
and they are dried before being pressed, frequently affected by moderate noble
rot.
The moderate noble rot is for real men, not for
My Hasenfuss- Weigert baroque is also factory tuned, as a gambist joking
told me. I hardly ever need to tune , especially if I don't change keys or
if the weather is not too wet. I use a mixture of Aquila and Pyramid
strings.
(Ok, hardly ever means every two, three days, but I've just had a
I visited Città di Soave some years ago, and I got a very useful booklet
about the wine. There is also an ancient castle to visit, with a torture
chamber, probably for out of tune musicians.. lutenists, in
particular..mostly those who did not appreciate wine, and a wonderful view
on the hills
spinning tall tales, most likely both!
Michael Thames
2. I am pitch challenged so I use devices. My Korg-AT1 didn't say
anything
either.
Are you sure your using that thing correctly? Their kind of tricky,
picking up all those overtones and all.
I use those devices to tune to A 415,
Donatella et Roman,
I the use same mixture of Nylgut and Pyramid
strings on my ten course and find that it stays in
tune remarkably well, although I'm not that crazy
about the sound of the pyramid basses on this
instrument.
Roman - have you found this tuning stability to be
typical with
(Ok, hardly ever means every two, three days, but I've just had a
wonderful wine with a dessert which is a specialty from Piedmont and I
feel
quite optimistic...)
Donatella
Hardly ever you are an honest soul. I use the same strings. I
feel the Gods have smiled upon me, if I can
I would say, probably FdM. It's not in Galilei's style, and many of
FdM's traits are there. And GOOD music too.
On Apr 11, 2005 1:23 PM, Wolfgang Wiehe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hello all,
the six recercars in galileis 1563 print (ness 68 to ness 73) are unica
and seems to me a little bit
I the use same mixture of Nylgut and Pyramid
strings on my ten course and find that it stays in
tune remarkably well, although I'm not that crazy
about the sound of the pyramid basses on this
instrument.
Roman - have you found this tuning stability to be
typical with carbon? I'm
Roman - have you found this tuning stability to be
typical with carbon? I'm thinking of stringing my
theorbo at least partially with it.
Chris
Yes. I have the courses 1-4 entirely in carbon, as well as most octaves. The
fundamentals are Pyramids on 5-7, and the 8-13 are old copper Savarez.
Yes, not likely that I tuned it, I can attest.
By the way, Roman's lute DID seem well in tune after all it's travels
(so did my all-gut strung 11 course after coming out of its case for the
1st in two months!)
Kenneth
Let me see Kenneth if I'm hearing you correctly Your 11 course lute was
spinning tall tales, most likely both!
Michael Thames
2. I am pitch challenged so I use devices. My Korg-AT1 didn't say
anything
either.
Are you sure your using that thing correctly? Their kind of tricky,
picking up all those overtones and all.
I use those devices to tune to A 415, and
3. I guess I have to thank Larry Brown for a really stable instrument.
Maybe
you should apprentice to him.
I have something to learn from everyone, unlike you. But with all do
respect to Larry Brown, it's got nothing to do with the lute, just the
strings, temp, and humidity.
Maybe you pegs
In this discussion, I have found similar instances when string stability
has been wonderful. Sometimes, I leave an instrument in the case (all gut
strung baroque lute), and after no attention for a few months, I open the
lid to my astonishment, it is in remarkably good tune. This is the
almost require no tuning after being totally stretched out. They were
also
durable, as I had a set on for around 9 years, without changing strings
[even the trebles!], they retained the same sound trueness.
Then, I must be crazy, after only two weeks of playing I notice
indentations were the
Thames, has stated we are pitch challenged of lying about this, that it is
impossible for an instrument to stay in tune after travel. I believe
Roman
and Kenneth, as we have all had similarly good tuning experiences
Edward, I never said either you or Kenneth were lying, only Roman. You
guys
Most lutes in cases stay pretty well in tune, but I'm sorry our tolerances
for in tuneness must be radically different from each other. 2 months in a
case and you don't need to tune it, perhaps miracles do happen after all.
None of this qualifies as a miracle.
A miracle would be when a
A miracle would be when a luthier named Michael Thames realizes that daft
insults do not generate lute orders. But I am not sure we should hold our
collective breath.
RT
Roman, I guess the issue is moot, now that I realize you need a
tuneomatic to tune, nothing more needs to be said.
I got a message and picture from someone who says he has what looks
like an old therobo, which he found while working on
an old chapel. So I am wondering if there is
a good museum or expert who could look at this instrument
and evauluate it. He is in the Czech Republic.
Wayne
Roman Kenneth- Sounds like a fascinating program. Sorry I missed it.
Please let me know if you plan any more either in Cleveland or if you come
to Detroit.
Mike
- Original Message -
From: Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Tuesday,
Then you may try to buy yourself a reputation. You could certainly afford
one (if you find it for sale, maybe a second-hand one).
RT
As far as my reputation goes it's been well earned. There's only a hand
full of luthiers in the world, who've made 600 guitars by hand.
Your,
As far as my reputation goes it's been well earned. There's only a hand
full of luthiers in the world, who've made 600 guitars by hand.
Again, I hope they have been made with the same attention to detail as
your
sentences.
Yea, Yea, I heard you the first time.
Michael Thames
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