[LUTE] Tune the tuna - Part II

2008-10-28 Thread Omer katzir
So, few days ego (i think it was Sunday, not what day it is today...) I received the Super Duper Sonic Tuner as some of you recommended. A great tuner, but I really need tips to use it, I'm still used to my old needle tuner, I always used them and now all the flashing lights confusing me.

[LUTE] Re: Tune the tuna - Part II

2008-10-28 Thread David van Ooijen
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 8:15 AM, Omer katzir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A great tuner, but I really need tips to use it, .. But I'm not really sure how to tune, the manual fails to explain it (at least for me) in nice and clear way. On the Finale list we say RTFM, which stands for Read the

[LUTE] Re: Kapsberger Canarios

2008-10-28 Thread Rob MacKillop
Steve, Normally these pieces are played on the theorbo, so if it definitely was a baroque guitar being played, they must have been arrangements. I know Maxwell Davis's Farewell to Stromness, although I haven't heard it for a decade or so. I seem to recall it is a set of

[LUTE] Re: Tune the tuna - Part II

2008-10-28 Thread Omer katzir
Dear David, I think you should read that part again... let me write it again: A great tuner, but I really need tips to use it, I'm still used to my old needle tuner, I always used them and now all the flashing lights confusing me. I read the instruction manual, it is great becuase

[LUTE] Re: Tune the tuna - Part II

2008-10-28 Thread David Tayler
Tuning with sound trains your ear, and therefore trains your musical abilities. Get a tuner that plays sounds, and tune unisons (or other intervals, if you wish). When your ear is trained, you will then know for sure if the lute is in tune; no box required :) The visual tuner is useful for

[LUTE] Re: Cantio Ruthenica LXVI

2008-10-28 Thread Rob MacKillop
Very beautiful, Roman. So many beautiful tunes. What a rich cultural vein. Many thanks for all your efforts. Rob MacKillop 2008/10/28 Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2]http://www.torban.org/ruthenicae/audio/222a.mp3 [3]http://www.torban.org/ruthenicae/images/222a.pdf

[LUTE] Re: Cantio Ruthenica LXVI

2008-10-28 Thread Rob MacKillop
Very beautiful, Roman. So many beautiful tunes. What a rich cultural vein. Many thanks for all your efforts. Rob MacKillop PS Sorry if you get this reply twice. My first attempt bounced back to me. 2008/10/27 Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[LUTE] Re: Kapsberger Canarios

2008-10-28 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi Steve I just heard a fellow playing a baroque guitar solo on the radio. It was something called Arpegiatt and Canarios, by Kapsberger. The Canarios sounded rather similar to the modern piano piece, Farewell to Stromness, which we may know as a guitar piece. I've thought for a

[LUTE] Re: Tune the tuna - Part II

2008-10-28 Thread David van Ooijen
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 9:34 AM, David Tayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tuning with sound trains your ear, and therefore trains your musical abilities. Get a tuner that plays sounds, and tune unisons (or other intervals, if you wish). Couldn't agree more. Don't damage your instrument with

[LUTE] Re: Tune the tuna - Part II

2008-10-28 Thread Anthony Hind
Dear Omer The Turbo tuner works very well for me, when the lute is already quite well tuned. I have preset the open strings, so I go into open tuning, and I set it to the auto mod. I tend not to look directly at the strobe, but slightly to the side. If it turns to the left, it is

[LUTE] Re: Tune the tuna - Part II

2008-10-28 Thread David van Ooijen
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Omer katzir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear David, I think you should read that part again... let me write it again: .. But I'm not really sure how to tune, the manual fails to explain it (at least for me) in nice and clear way. Sorry English is not my first

[LUTE] Re: Tune the tuna - Part II

2008-10-28 Thread Ron Fletcher
David vO wrote... I'm into bits of fret gut, held in place with tape, these days. The tape painters use, and lute makers btw, that doesn't leave sticky bits on your fingerboard. Though on one or two instruments I still have the wires, they look cool. ;-) I assume this is what I know as

[LUTE] Re: Tune the tuna - Part II

2008-10-28 Thread David van Ooijen
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Ron Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David vO wrote... I'm into bits of fret gut, held in place with tape, these days. The .. I assume this is what I know as 'masking-tape'. Can you elaborate how you use it on a lute? See the picture on on this page:

[LUTE] Re: Cantio Ruthenica LXVI

2008-10-28 Thread Roman Turovsky
From: Rob MacKillop [EMAIL PROTECTED] Very beautiful, Roman. So many beautiful tunes. What a rich cultural vein. Many thanks for all your efforts. Rob MacKillop PS Sorry if you get this reply twice. My first attempt bounced back to me. Not a problem at all, for such a megalomaniac as

[LUTE] Re: Cantio Ruthenica LXVI

2008-10-28 Thread Roman Turovsky
From: Rob MacKillop [EMAIL PROTECTED] Very beautiful, Roman. So many beautiful tunes. What a rich cultural vein. Many thanks for all your efforts. Rob MacKillop PS Sorry if you get this reply twice. My first attempt bounced back to me. Not a problem at all, for such a megalomaniac as

[LUTE] Re: Tune the tuna - Part II

2008-10-28 Thread Omer katzir
I have decided to try Just tuning first, still few questions remains. lets go back to the tuner: I'm in a very noisy environment sometimes (there's a kindergarden few steps from here...), how i can see visually if I'm tuned? (ST-122 just to remind) that's it, then i'm fixed (already have

[LUTE] Re: One solution to the enigma of Marchesa di Sala?

2008-10-28 Thread Luca Manassero
Hi, a number of nice dances written by Santino Garsi were also included by Vincenzo Galilei in his Libro d'Intavolatura di Liuto. The manuscript didn't make it to print, but is available at the Biblioteca Centrale Nazionale in Florence. S.P.E.S published a fac-simile of it back in 1992.

[LUTE] Re: Tune the tuna - Part II

2008-10-28 Thread Anthony Hind
Omer There is a you tube film of how to use this, explaining the strobe pattern. I hope this is useful. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9JB95DzVhU Anthony Le 28 oct. 08 à 13:21, Omer katzir a écrit : I have decided to try Just tuning first, still few questions remains. lets go back

[LUTE] Re: Tune the tuna - Part II

2008-10-28 Thread Anthony Hind
I see the new Turbo Tuner has corrected a number of problems that I found with the original: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD_U7YPFqKgfeature=related Compare with the previous Youtube film. The setting-up is far simpler. Anthony Le 28 oct. 08 à 13:45, Anthony Hind a écrit : Omer -- To

[LUTE] Re: Tune the tuna - Part II

2008-10-28 Thread David van Ooijen
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Omer katzir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have decided to try Just tuning first I have never tried. Let us know if it works for you. I'm in a very noisy environment sometimes The ST-122 can be confuesd by ambient noise like computer fans. I use a clip on mic if

[LUTE] Re: Kapsberger Canarios

2008-10-28 Thread Steve Ramey
Rob, Thanks for the thoughts. I thought this might be right up your alley. As you see, Arto knew the one I had heard. That said, I'll eventually track down the piano piece and try to make a version for my own use. I'll let you know if I have some success. Best, Steve

[LUTE] Re: Kapsberger Canarios

2008-10-28 Thread wikla
Hi Steve, yes it is in pdf, the original Italian tabulature. See my page http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/Tiorba/ Happy playing! Arto On 10/28/2008, Steve Ramey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arto, That's exactly it. Thank you! Is it available in a PDF file? Best regards,

[LUTE] Continuo Question

2008-10-28 Thread David Rastall
What's up guys, Continuo question: how do you play basso continuo in a fugue, where the voices are played one-on-a-part? My problem is I don't know what to do with the places in the music where the bass is not playing. Any suggestions? Davidr [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To get on or off this

[LUTE] Continuo Question

2008-10-28 Thread David Rastall
What's up guys, Continuo question: how do you play basso continuo in a fugue, where the voices are played one-on-a-part? My problem is I don't know what to do with the places in the music where the bass is not playing. Any suggestions? Davidr [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To get on or off this

[LUTE] Re: Tune the tuna - Part II

2008-10-28 Thread David Tayler
Don't forget that David is using historical strings, so that the highest tension (17 kg) is on the treble end, and the lowest (.007Kg) is on the bass, hence his nickname David 007 dt See the picture on on this page: http://home.planet.nl/~ooije006/david/writings/meantone_f.html (scroll

[LUTE] Re: Tune the tuna - Part II

2008-10-28 Thread David Tayler
Are we talking Gaffer tape here, like to hold down a mic cable in a concert hall? Brilliant. dt At 06:41 AM 10/28/2008, you wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Omer katzir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have decided to try Just tuning first I have never tried. Let us know if it works for

[LUTE] Re: Continuo Question

2008-10-28 Thread Mathias Rösel
David Rastall [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: What's up guys, Continuo question: how do you play basso continuo in a fugue, where the voices are played one-on-a-part? My problem is I don't know what to do with the places in the music where the bass is not playing. Any suggestions? Not that

[LUTE] Re: Tune the tuna - Part II

2008-10-28 Thread David Tayler
Looking at the picture it looks like the no residue thin masking tape used for painting on wood surfaces. I'll try it today! Off to the Home Depot (where I also buy the redwood for the theorbo necks) dt At 10:47 AM 10/28/2008, you wrote: Are we talking Gaffer tape here, like to hold down a mic

[LUTE] Re: Continuo Question

2008-10-28 Thread David Tayler
There is no easy answer. You can play colla parte, or course, the ultimate challenge for any lute music, or double the lower voices, or you can just figure it. If it is a later Baroque piece, there will many interlocking 7ths and 9ths, and in these cases I often will play the sevenths so that

[LUTE] Re: Kapsberger Canarios

2008-10-28 Thread Sam Chapman
Here's a tip: Farewell to Stromness is great on theorbo! 2008/10/28 Steve Ramey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dear Collected Wisdom, I just heard a fellow playing a baroque guitar solo on the radio. It was something called Arpegiatt and Canarios, by Kapsberger. The Canarios sounded rather

[LUTE] Re: Tune the tuna - Part II

2008-10-28 Thread Sam Chapman
Double sided sticky tape is also great for holding down wooden tastini (even permanent tastini or on the body frets). I normally use little bits of fret gut and normal sticky tape though - I've often left them on for a month or so and never had any problems with sticky marks. The guage of gut for

[LUTE] 3 x Santino in Tube and Vimeo

2008-10-28 Thread wikla
Dear lutenists, Santino Garsi da Parma's music is perhaps not the most clever music ever composed, but anyhow it is kind of fun in its honest way of entertaining. You might call it Pop of 1600's? I made a couple (=3) recordings just to show, how my editions sound. Not polished at all,

[LUTE] Re: 3 x Santino in Tube and Vimeo

2008-10-28 Thread Christopher Stetson
Dear Arto, Thanks for these editions and recordings. I've loved the Aria and Corrente ever since I heard them on the old Walter Gerwig LPs back in the '60s. Certainly they helped form my musical identity. Cleverness is often overrated; I imagine the Aria to convey the air of serene

[LUTE] breaking-in a lute? (What's new at Tea at Tympani Lane Records)

2008-10-28 Thread Rebecca Banks
October 28th, 2008 Dear Lutenists: I have tuned the Bass Renaissance Lute to 433, when I had it tuned to 440 the two gut bass strings broke. It has a beautiful sound, mellow and haunting. The keys are free and the Lute seems to be staying in tune better. I think it