The 'Chapman Stick' itself really is just a plank with strings in 2
parallel groups. (Lowest pitch in the middle).
So indeed, this is a 12 string bass and it can be seen as a variant the stick,
going a lot of the way back towards a regular electric bass/guitar.
( cf. Warr Guitar)
Dampers at the
I wonder what the layout of the upper head of this lute might be?
[1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/icon/party-1.gif
Artist Jacopo Vignale, early 17th Century.
Bill
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Dear Bill,
I assume one of these.
http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/93.tif
Sixtus Rauwolf Augsburg 1599 now in Copenhagen No. 93
This is the sole survivor of this type that Molenaer made famous. But
your painting has the lower strings offset in in a strange, rather
excessive, manner. Maybe a case
David, the strings are running alongside the extended neck in stead of passing
over it.
So the second pegbox has to be off-axle.
With Bill I wonder.
Lex
Op 4 feb 2013, om 16:07 heeft David Van Edwards het volgende geschreven:
Dear Bill,
I assume one of these.
Do consider that the painter might have used a prop or even an imaginary
instrument.
RT
On 2/4/2013 10:16 AM, Lex van Sante wrote:
David, the strings are running alongside the extended neck in stead of passing
over it.
So the second pegbox has to be off-axle.
With Bill I wonder.
Lex
On 04/02/2013 5:54 AM, William Samson wrote:
I wonder what the layout of the upper head of this lute might be?
[1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/icon/party-1.gif
Artist Jacopo Vignale, early 17th Century.
The painting raises another question for me: lute straps. I've seen
Dear Stephen,
No, rare as hens teeth! A little while ago I put together a page
about their apparent lack of use here:
http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/straps.htm
I must add this new picture to the collection.
Best wishes,
DAvid
At 07:32 -0800 4/2/13, Stephen Fryer wrote:
On 04/02/2013 5:54 AM,
Dear List,
are you aware of a digital *fac-simile* (not a modern copy) of the
first and second book edited by Franciscus Bossinensis and printed by
Ottaviano Petrucci in Venezia (1509, 1511), i. e. Tenori e
contrabassi intabulati col sopran in canto figurato per cantar e sonar
Hi David and Roman,
Yes - The Rauwolf/Molinaer type what what first occurred to me, but the
basses wouldn't be offset in that case. Another oddity is the very
narrow, parallel-sided neck which wouldn't match Rauwolf (or any other
lute) either. And yet, to me, the body of the lute
I forgot to mention that I also googled other paintings by Vignole and
can't find any others showing a lute, so I can't cross check that way.
Bill
From: William Samson willsam...@yahoo.co.uk
To: David Van Edwards da...@vanedwards.co.uk
Cc: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Dear Bill,
Yes to all of that!
Meanwhile if we wonder about alterations, do you notice that you can
see right through one of the wings to the windowframe behind? Frankly
the wings look rather out of period and style when taken together with
the secular detailed nature of the
Hi David,
Looks like it's in the National Gallery of Ireland.
[1]http://www.nationalgallery.ie/en/aboutus/Images_and_Licensing/Print_
Sales/Music%20and%20Dance/Saint%20Cecilia.aspx
Looking at this reproduction, there are a couple of misty wingtips as
if the guy who added the
Perhaps:
http://www.lutevoice.com/luteiconography/SlideShow_assets/SlideShow.html?lang=en
?
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From: William Samson willsam...@yahoo.co.uk
To: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Mon, Feb 4, 2013 8:56 am
Subject: [LUTE] Lute painting
I wonder what the layout
I'll try again:
http://www.lutevoice.com/luteiconography/Page%204.html
Got to the painting by J.G. Platzer; an apparently non-offset theorbo neck
extension.
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From: William Samson willsam...@yahoo.co.uk
To: David Van Edwards da...@vanedwards.co.uk
Cc: Lute List
Thanks! Yes - there are many similarities, but the main pegbox in the
Platzer theorbo isn't bent back like the one in the Vignale painting.
Bill
From: theoj89...@aol.com theoj89...@aol.com
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Monday, 4 February 2013, 19:47
Subject: [LUTE] Re:
Monica et al.,
I certainly don't want to stir up the hornet's nest again, but a brief
comment on Meucci's article (which I have finally received through ILL):
As I suspected, Meucci's follows Tyler's misreading of RISM for the
Millioni book (this was corrected in Jim's later editions of the
Dear Theo and Bill,
Yes, that's the effect I was meaning about maybe a mistake of
perspective. In the Platzer the strings *appear* to lie to one side
of the neck but we can see the upper pegbox and therefore can see
that the lute is at an angle which would produce that effect. However
in the
There are many problems with the Platzer axe:
the neck-extension joint is way too deep, and the neck-bowl joint is
broken and cracking the soundboard.
It is obviously a PROP.
RT
On 2/4/2013 3:42 PM, William Samson wrote:
Thanks! Yes - there are many similarities, but the main pegbox in
You know what they say, French letters are definitely an English
phenomenon, while English overcoats could not be more French, women are
from Mars while men are from Venus -- language has a way to localize
things semantically rather than geographically. This reminds me that in
Baroque Italy
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