[LUTE] Re: Spain vs. Italy

2015-05-05 Thread ml
What Monica says is true: english history writing had this bias against Spain (Hispanophobia) that can easily be explained because Spain was the hegemonic country in the 16th Century. In Spain this example of negative propaganda is labeled under the expression black legend (Julian Juderias, La

[LUTE] Re: Spain vs. Italy

2015-05-05 Thread Chris Barker
Cromwell and the Puritans were the worst thing that ever happened to England. The Puritans who came to the U.S. (British colonies then) persecuted and murdered scores of non-Puritans. Chris -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf

[LUTE] Re: Spain vs. Italy

2015-05-05 Thread Ron Andrico
Gary's point really answers the question. Printed music was indeed rare, expensive, and required an essentially monopolized royal privilege to publish. Besides, Spain is really considered the source of many of the grounds that were the basis for improvised dance music that

[LUTE] Re: Spain vs. Italy

2015-05-05 Thread Monica Hall
Yes - Simon Schama has likened Cromwell and his supporters to the Taliban in Afghanistan. They were certainly responsible for destroying some of our cultural heritage. And Thomas Cromwell a century earlier was just an avaricious thug. Monica - Original Message - From: Edward

[LUTE] Re: Spain vs. Italy

2015-05-05 Thread Monica Hall
A bit off topic now - but I don't think Philip and his Armada had conquering and ruling England at the top their agenda. What they wanted to do was to stop English pirates from interfering with their trading interests in the New World. Monica - Original Message - From: Mark Wheeler

[LUTE] Re: Spain vs. Italy

2015-05-05 Thread Chris Barker
I agree on Thomas Cromwell as well! Had Henry VIII not been king at that time I'd call him a thug too! Chris -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Monica Hall Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2015 9:19 AM To: Edward Chrysogonus Yong

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Partita de Monsieur Loggi

2015-05-05 Thread Fischer BE (Aon)
Dear lute friends, I have completed my amateur play recording of a Partita de Monsieur Loggi from the baroque lute manuscript Mus. Ms. 40620 (previously Staatsbibliothek Berlin, Germany). After 1945, the Ms. 40620 has been reported missing for many decades. The Partita has then

[LUTE] Re: Spain vs. Italy

2015-05-05 Thread Monica Hall
Yes - you are right. We shouldn't judge the past by an inappropriate set of criteria. Spain has got a bad press in the English speaking world because most of us study history from an English/Northern Europe point of view. Queen Elizabeth I was a racist - want to expel all coloured people from

[LUTE] Re: Spain vs. Italy

2015-05-05 Thread gary
The late Robin Williams was asked on German TV, Why are there so few German comedians? He replied, Because you killed all the funny people. Gary On 2015-05-04 09:37, Dan Winheld wrote: In other words, because the only two ethnic/cultural groups that had any rhythm were invited to leave the

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: More Weiss

2015-05-05 Thread Fischer BE (Aon)
Dear Sterling, I do know Alexandros from Greece also playing a baroque lute from Turkey. Nice work and play, Bernhard Vienna / Austria -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von sterling price Gesendet: Dienstag, 05. Mai

[LUTE] Re: Spain vs. Italy

2015-05-05 Thread Edward Chrysogonus Yong
England falling to 16th C Catholic Spain may have been better for music and culture than falling to Cromwell and the Puritans, just saying... τούτο ηλεκτρονικόν ταχυδρομείον εκ είΦωνου εμεύ επέμφθη. Hæ litteræ electronicæ ab iPhono missæ sunt. 此電子郵件發送于自吾iPhone。 This e-mail was sent