[LUTE] Re: LUTE Duets

2020-09-27 Thread Alain Veylit
People who like lute duets might  interested in a project I put together, see http://fandango.musickshandmade.com/projects/preview/26 I did not quite make it to 100 but there are still some pieces to be added after this list goes silent. Good night all, Alain To get on or off this list

[LUTE] Re: My web site (long and probably tedious)

2020-09-05 Thread Alain Veylit
I totally agree with the below: On 9/5/20 9:16 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote: 6) Should the list/forum be maintained as a separate effort, or should it be rolled into the LSA, etc.? - Being a truly international list has been a great feature and strength of Wayne's system

[LUTE] Re: Fancy by John Danyel

2020-09-03 Thread Alain Veylit
. Best wishes, Martin On 02/09/2020 07:18, Alain Veylit wrote:     Thank you Denys,     Yes, it is Robert Spencer (I could not remember, but now I do!) -- Do     you happen to know if Robert was also responsible for part 2 of In a     merry mood, also in Sampson?     On 9/1/20 4:58 PM, Denys

[LUTE] Re: Fancy by John Danyel

2020-09-01 Thread Alain Veylit
missing. Best wishes, Denys Sent from my iPhone On 2 Sep 2020, at 00:25, Alain Veylit [1] wrote: Does anybody happen to know who wrote the second lute part for John Danyel's fan cy, Sampson [f11r] ? It has become standard but it is systematically not credite d... To get on or off this list

[LUTE] Re: Fancy by John Danyel

2020-09-01 Thread Alain Veylit
Does anybody happen to know who wrote the second lute part for John Danyel's fancy, Sampson [f11r] ? It has become standard but it is systematically not credited... To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: future of the lute

2020-08-27 Thread Alain Veylit
If you had asked the question about the future of the lute in the late 1590s, the answer would have been "More voices!", not the style brisé, which is pretty much the exact opposite of thick polyphony ...  Which is why I always dreaded the typical well honed HR question: "Where do you see

[LUTE] Re: future of the lute

2020-08-27 Thread Alain Veylit
I beg to differ - see Tous les matins du monde On 8/27/20 2:41 PM, tristanvonneum...@gmx.de wrote: him. A good Early Music movie has yet to be made... To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: About vocal intabulations

2020-04-28 Thread Alain Veylit
It is very interesting to compare the Vincenzo Galilei intabulations in Il Fronimo to the music he published elsewhere particularly in his manuscript collection. The music in Il Fronimo is didactic -- and often awkward because of too many voices -- and in the MS collection it is

[LUTE] Re: A Pavan

2020-03-31 Thread Alain Veylit
"these distracted times" referred to the Civil War. On 3/30/20 5:29 PM, Tristan von Neumann wrote: ..for these distracted times. (Thomas Tomkins) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z2BEKuWANA To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: Each one with his/her phone.

2020-03-23 Thread Alain Veylit
A somewhat more elaborate take on the same idea - also using a master tape, but took about a year to record in "real time": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph1GU1qQ1zQ Luthistes de tous les pays unissez-vous! On 3/23/20 3:30 PM, howard posner wrote: On Mar 23, 2020, at 8:12 AM, Diego

[LUTE] Re: Physics and music and goofy librarians

2019-12-09 Thread Alain Veylit
There is an interesting mistake on that Stanford library page - see item 57. Or perhaps, the year 1905 was particularly spectacular in some parallel universe?  I thought Albert played the violin, not the viola ... https://library.stanford.edu/collections/ben-schmidt-collection-music-lute

[LUTE] Re: Lute Humor

2019-12-07 Thread Alain Veylit
audience eventually needs to go home and feed the little humans. On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 9:07 PM Alain Veylit <[1]al...@musickshandmade.com> wrote: Only takes her that long because she has funny hands. Most (anatomically correct) people can do it in a jiffy. It'

[LUTE] Re: Lute Humor

2019-12-06 Thread Alain Veylit
Only takes her that long because she has funny hands. Most (anatomically correct) people can do it in a jiffy. It's true. (Besides, if you are immortal, what's the rush?) On 12/6/19 2:15 PM, Tristan von Neumann wrote: I just found this on TwoSetViolin's subreddit:

[LUTE] Re: Qui est l'heureux luthiste?

2019-12-03 Thread Alain Veylit
Thank you Nancy and Roman, I did not recognize him from the picture  on one of his absolutely excellent CDs - with music by De Visee. Alain That looks like Eduardo Eguez. He will be on the faculty of the next LSA Cleveland Lute Fest this June. Nancy Who is the lucky lutenist in this

[LUTE] Re: Qui est l'heureux luthiste?

2019-12-03 Thread Alain Veylit
Who is the lucky lutenist in this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3U1KVXku_o To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

2019-11-20 Thread Alain Veylit
Doesn't Besard's Novus Partus ask for a tiorbino for some of the ensemble pieces? On 11/20/19 9:12 AM, Richard Brook wrote: I agree with Howard If there is a free (or quite inexpensive) tiorbino around I would like to put in a request. Dick Brook On Nov 19, 2019, at 3:26 AM, howard

[LUTE] Re: bandora question

2019-11-19 Thread Alain Veylit
In case this may be of interest to you, Stuart: I just chanced yesterday on a piece by Tobias Hume for a treble viol tuned as a bandora - it's in the First part of Ayres, item 108: Deep throughts revived, "A lesson for the lyra viol with two treble viols, or two basses with one

[LUTE] Re: A strange "error" in Maestro

2019-10-15 Thread Alain Veylit
I cannot read this thread without thinking about Spinacino's duets, particularly the setting of Ghiselin's Jolis amours: are the notes wrong or is it our ears? Yet, I had found a very convincing rendition of that duet a while ago on the Net, played as printed 500 years ago

[LUTE] Re: Torah

2019-08-02 Thread Alain Veylit
I am literally crushed. (But I will nevertheless keep on putting the heaviest volumes on the lower shelves in my house, just in case God sends the Big One to California). On 8/1/19 2:30 PM, howard posner wrote: On Aug 1, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Alain Veylit wrote: This 19th century pianist

[LUTE] Re: Torah

2019-08-02 Thread Alain Veylit
for the shelf. On 01.08.19 23:10, Alain Veylit wrote: Since Howard mentions the Torah and jeopardy, here is our summer quiz/jeopardy question: This 19th century pianist and composer died crushed by the fall of his private library's (heavy) bookshelf  as he was trying to reach the Torah

[LUTE] Re: Torah

2019-08-02 Thread Alain Veylit
Thanks. The Talmud gets two points. :) On 8/1/19 2:21 PM, [1]terli...@aol.com wrote: Alkan of course... but I heard it was the Talmud that did him in. Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: [2]mail.mobile.aol.com On Thursday, August 1, 2019, Alain Veylit [3] wrote

[LUTE] Re: Torah

2019-08-01 Thread Alain Veylit
Since Howard mentions the Torah and jeopardy, here is our summer quiz/jeopardy question: This 19th century pianist and composer died crushed by the fall of his private library's (heavy) bookshelf  as he was trying to reach the Torah on the top shelf? (High aspirations sometimes get you

[LUTE] Re: Lute Temperaments

2019-07-23 Thread Alain Veylit
I have a practical question : is it common practice for Baroque lute players to also adjust their frets when they change their diapason tuning? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Lute Temperaments

2019-07-23 Thread Alain Veylit
Some inspiring quotes: "I once had a lute whose frets were loose, and I could play nothing, nothing but the blues ... " (Robert Johnson) "Temperaments are affairs of taste, not affairs of state." (Talleyrand, quoting Rameau quoting Aristotle's lost treatise on music). "Playing a lute with

[LUTE] Re: How to read a Baroque lute tablature

2019-07-20 Thread Alain Veylit
Hello, There may be some lute curious people on this list who have not made the jump  yet into playing (or buying...) a Baroque lute, and are not familiar with reading facsimiles or lute technique elements. I thought they might  be interested in a detailed explanation of a facsimile copy of

[LUTE] Re: All music (was Siena Manuscript No. 17 - Ricercar)

2019-07-15 Thread Alain Veylit
Don't anyone dare calling a 500 bar passomezzo "filler" music ... It was more properly called "staircase" music (passomezzo in Italian means: "mind your step"). It took a long time to go down from upstairs to the ballroom with all the heavy dresses and hats and swords and so forth, hence the

[LUTE] Re: Tailpieces (was Plucking Room)

2019-07-01 Thread Alain Veylit
Is the typo intentional? (Just wondering how much irreparable damage shawms and tubas can really cause...) On 6/30/19 7:43 PM, howard posner wrote: At an LSA seminar ears ago we had an ad hoc band in which Bob Clair played shawm and Gus Denhard played tuba with a group of lutes ... To get

[LUTE] Re: David Gilmore [guitar] Collection being sold

2019-06-29 Thread Alain Veylit
I have read somewhere (Facebook...) Gilmour is giving the proceeds to the cause of immigrants. What's a guitar when you can save a life. Alain On 6/29/19 3:02 PM, Roman Turovsky wrote: Are there any lutes there? If not - I wouldn't bother looking.)) RT On 6/29/2019 3:12 PM, Peter Martin

[LUTE] Re: Corigniani

2019-06-28 Thread Alain Veylit
For those of you interested in Baroque lute duets, I put together a page on Corigniani, with a transcription of his duet + bass and an original recording by Edward Martin and Paul Berget, as well as some links to background information on the manuscript and digital facsimile copies. I hope

[LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute

2019-06-23 Thread Alain Veylit
Isn't that what keeps it interesting though? On 6/22/19 1:50 PM, Martin Shepherd wrote: This reminds me that even after 40 years I'm still hardly beginning to understand how to do this. To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: Corigniani

2019-06-21 Thread Alain Veylit
ttempt to track down this "Italian composer". I have a hunch... BTW, there once have been two duets by Corigniani kept by Breitkopf. Regards Stephan -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von Alain Veylit Gesendet: Freitag

[LUTE] Re: Corigniani

2019-06-21 Thread Alain Veylit
There is a very nice concerto for 2 Baroque lutes and basso at the Brussels Royal library by a mister (or mrs) Corigniani. Google turns up very little on that composer, except that it may be a pseudonym for a German composer. What is the rationale/research to doubt that Corigniani was 

[LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute

2019-06-19 Thread Alain Veylit
Arnold Dolmetsch was French. I am sure sure some Italians had a hand in the revival of interest in the lute (Chilesotti). Fun fact: Ponce (Mexico) got yelled at for faking early music compositions while Ravel's Tombeau de Couperin (France) got praise. Mendelsshon helped revive Bach's works.

[LUTE] Re: You obviously haven't heard...

2019-06-08 Thread Alain Veylit
I was puzzled that the printers of Dowland's First booke of songes consistently spelled "sun" as "son" - in spite of rhymes that would indicate a -un sound to a modern reader. Spelling varies in that same book from one part - altus, tenor etc. - fairly frequently. But this seems to

[LUTE] Re: Krebs Concerto in C

2019-05-28 Thread Alain Veylit
For those interested in ensemble music for Baroque lute, I posted a transcription of the German composer Johann Ludwig Krebs' Concerto in C for Baroque lute, 2 violins, viola and cello, from the manuscript kept at the Staatsbibliothek zu Berlin. It is hefty work in 3 parts: Allegro, Largo and

[LUTE] Re: Dowland's first book of songes

2019-05-26 Thread Alain Veylit
mouth.edu [4]<[3]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu> on behalf of Alain Veylit [5]<[4]al...@musickshandmade.com> Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2019 6:00 PM To: 'Lute List' Subject: [LUTE] Re: Dowland's first book of songes What is the current consensus on

[LUTE] Re: Dowland's first book of songes

2019-05-26 Thread Alain Veylit
I made a mistake in a recent post (yesterday, the poem I quoted from the Musical Banquet is not by Dowland, but by Henry Lee (or Lea)... The Goddess therefore seems to actually be Queen Liz (well deceased by the time the Musical banquet was published). Another poem by Lee is found in Dowland's

[LUTE] Re: Dowland's first book of songes

2019-05-26 Thread Alain Veylit
The negociations for Elizabeth to marry Francis finally failed in 1582, 15 years before the First book of songes was published. There is no mention in "Now o Now" of how ugly Francis was (dwarfish, with severe scars from the small pox). I don't see how English poets of the time could have

[LUTE] Re: Dowland's first book of songes

2019-05-25 Thread Alain Veylit
as accused of treason and executed. Guy -Original Message- From: [2]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [[3]mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Beha lf Of Alain Veylit Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2019 12:03 PM To: Tristan von Neumann; [4]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Dowland's first book of son

[LUTE] Re: Dowland's first book of songes

2019-05-25 Thread Alain Veylit
indirectly connected to the aging queen. Which is interesting in itself, though not totally surprising. On 5/25/19 11:36 AM, Tristan von Neumann wrote: On 25.05.19 20:00, Alain Veylit wrote:  Dude, you lived in a completely patriarchal society and you still manage to blame her for torturing you

[LUTE] Re: Dowland's first book of songes

2019-05-25 Thread Alain Veylit
the talent of the printers as to that of the musicians ... At the very least, it is very interesting to see Dowland's name associated with a small technological revolution. On 5/25/19 11:00 AM, Alain Veylit wrote: What is the current consensus on the authorship of the verses in

[LUTE] Re: Dowland's first book of songes

2019-05-25 Thread Alain Veylit
What is the current consensus on the authorship of the verses in Dowland's 1st book of songes (1597)? Any attributions to some one other than Dowland himself? Also, I'll take any information about the actual printing job: is it the first example of the layout with lute + cantus on one page

[LUTE] Re: Antonio Reggio (1725-1780) - Dalla Casa and Rust

2019-05-24 Thread Alain Veylit
As a follow up to Martyn's comments: Dalla Casa is a piece of cake to transcribe compared to Rust... I gave up - for the time being - on his H-Dur sonata because I could not figure out what octave the notes on the F staff are at... It seems that the diapasons' octaved string are sometimes

[LUTE] Re: ornament in Sturt/ML lute book

2019-05-15 Thread Alain Veylit
at Robert Spencer's introductory remarks to the Boethius facsimile? On page xx, he describes your symbol as a backfall. RA __ From: [1]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [2] on behalf of Alain Veylit [3] Sent: Wednesday, May

[LUTE] Re: ornament in Sturt/ML lute book

2019-05-15 Thread Alain Veylit
/19 12:36 AM, Martin Shepherd wrote: I think it's a backfall, possibly measured rather than quick. It's discussed in my article in The Lute (1996). a Martin On 15/05/2019 01:17, Alain Veylit wrote: I just noticed a new (to me) ornament sign in  one of Robert Johnson's  pieces in the ML lute book

[LUTE] Re: ornament in Sturt/ML lute book

2019-05-14 Thread Alain Veylit
I just noticed a new (to me) ornament sign in  one of Robert Johnson's  pieces in the ML lute book: it looks like a 7 or a soupir and it seems to tie two notes on the same string, from one upper fret to a lower one or empty string. Here is an example where the sign occurs in almost every bar:

[LUTE] Re: French tab prints - why 5 lines?

2019-05-04 Thread Alain Veylit
mprovement by Phalese on his earlier lute prints where he used the landscape format commonly found in Italian lute prints - this does result in longer pieces requiring page turns. Thanks again & best wishes, Denys -Original Message----- From: Alain Veylit Sent: 04 May 2019 01:19 To:

[LUTE] Re: French tab prints - why 5 lines?

2019-05-03 Thread Alain Veylit
Great explanation, Denys :) Paper was the most expensive part of publishing for a long time, and I saw somewhere that German tab was appreciated for saving vertical space on the page. I am transcribing pieces from Dowland's First booke of Ayres, and I find it amazing what those printers

[LUTE] Re: Fandango

2019-05-02 Thread Alain Veylit
Hi everyone, I posted a new beta version of the Fandango software - it is fully enabled for everyone until June 1st. See: http://fandango.musickshandmade.com/pages/fandango Alain To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Leonardo da Vinci and the lute

2019-05-01 Thread Alain Veylit
I think  personally Leonardo played a lira da bracchio, - an instrument that perhaps could have been not very different from a vihuela - if we consider its opposite the lira d'arco, i.e. a bowed instrument. If I recall correctly - 30 years after reading Vasari - Vasari praised Leonardo on his

[LUTE] Re: GB Lbl ms 16889

2019-04-20 Thread Alain Veylit
Best, Jean-Marie > Message du 20/04/19 05:24 > De : "Alain Veylit" [2] > A : [3]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > Copie à : > Objet : [LUTE] Re: GB Lbl ms 16889 > > Talking about moutarde, Peter Steur's site has under no. 11 in

[LUTE] Re: GB Lbl ms 16889

2019-04-19 Thread Alain Veylit
Talking about moutarde, Peter Steur's site has under no. 11 in that collection: Almande (ton Arume) (J.Mercure, CLFMer II N°1) a-moll - GB-LbmBotnia / 92v. I think it should be ton enrhumé (not arume). Enrhumé in French is to have a cold and consequently speaking with a

[LUTE] Re: theorbo repertoire

2019-04-19 Thread Alain Veylit
I think someone confused a theorbo with a lute in G... Em and Bm are not friendly keys on a Ren. lute in G. On 4/19/19 6:30 PM, John Trout wrote: Roman, Saizenay has an E minor and B minor suite by de Visee. John On 4/19/19, 4:14 PM, "Roman Turovsky" wrote: A question to the

[LUTE] Re: TAB for windows 64 bit

2019-04-14 Thread Alain Veylit
You can also run Wayne's program from your browser at http://musickshandmade.com/wctab/tabs.html . That interface allows you to load or create a tab format file, edit it, and generate a PDF output. No installation needed, but I cannot guarantee it works in Explorer ... Alain On 4/14/19 6:02

[LUTE] Re: Rust - transcriptions of 21 and 53, I and II

2019-03-17 Thread Alain Veylit
+ 3 (viola). ** https://digital.staatsbibliothek-berlin.de/werkansicht?PPN=PPN882226 452=PHYS_0002=DMDLOG_0001=overview-toc -Original Message- From: Alain Veylit Cc: Lute List Sent: Sun, Mar 17, 2019 1:05 pm Subject: [LUTE] Re: Rust - transcriptions of 21 and 53

[LUTE] Re: Rust - transcriptions of 21 and 53, I and II

2019-03-17 Thread Alain Veylit
of the 13 course Dm lute... MH On Saturday, 16 March 2019, 21:16:39 GMT, Alain Veylit [3] wrote: Those of you interested in late 18th century Baroque lute + violin/viola may be interested in transcriptions of Rust sonatas I made that are now available for viewing: I. Sonata in C

[LUTE] Re: Rust - transcriptions of 21 and 53, I and II

2019-03-16 Thread Alain Veylit
Those of you interested in late 18th century Baroque lute + violin/viola may be interested in transcriptions of Rust sonatas I made that are now available for viewing: I. Sonata in C Major for lute and viola (Rust 21). I worked with Jean-Daniel Forget to see if we could get a playable

[LUTE] Re: right hand technique -- bending the pinky

2019-03-06 Thread Alain Veylit
, There is something to that effect in all 'oroginal' versions of Besard's instructions, that is: 1603 and 1617. I do not remember if ye text englished contains the passage... Best Joachim Originalnachricht Von: Alain Veylit Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. März 2019 04:32 Antwort an: lute

[LUTE] Re: right hand technique -- bending the pinky

2019-03-05 Thread Alain Veylit
be totally excellent if you'd find out where Besard made that suggestion. Thanks, jurgen -- “There is a voice that doesn’t use words. Listen.” Jalāl ad-Dīn Muhammad Rumi ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐. On Tuesday, March 5, 2019 10:40 AM, Alain Veylit wrote: That's

[LUTE] Re: right hand technique -- bending the pinky

2019-03-04 Thread Alain Veylit
history... On 3/4/19 7:12 PM, Richard Brook wrote: Heard via the late great Pat OBrien Paul O’Dette couldn’t bend that finger down by itself. Though I think Pat said in my case the fault was in my head, not in the stars. D ick Brook On Mar 4, 2019, at 6:58 PM, Alain Veylit wrote: Good

[LUTE] Re: right hand technique -- bending the pinky

2019-03-04 Thread Alain Veylit
teeth - frustrated leftie, you think? On 3/4/19 12:19 PM, Rainer wrote: On 04.03.2019 17:11, Alain Veylit wrote: And then, there is Django Reinhardt... one big exception to the rules of guitar playing. Experimenting with various techniques has probably always been a popular habit among

[LUTE] Re: Caravaggio

2019-03-04 Thread Alain Veylit
And then, there is Django Reinhardt... one big exception to the rules of guitar playing. Experimenting with various techniques has probably always been a popular habit among musicians, whether by choice or force. On 3/4/19 5:39 AM, Rainer wrote: Ooops, I mixed up 2nd and 3rd finger. Sorry :)

[LUTE] Re: F.W.Rust

2019-02-13 Thread Alain Veylit
laces which are not playable. But I worked on this sonata 30 years ago… All the best Andreas Am 13.02.2019 um 19:52 schrieb Thomas Schall : There is already a very well done adaption for the lute available (by Andi Schlegel) https://lutecorner.ch/ Bst wishes Thomas Am 13.02.2019 um 18:43 schrieb Alain V

[LUTE] Re: F.W.Rust

2019-02-13 Thread Alain Veylit
well done adaption for the lute available (by Andi Schle gel) [6]https://lutecorner.ch/ Bst wishes Thomas Am 13.02.2019 um 18:43 schrieb Alain Veylit: eing one octave down from what one might expect. Without that transposition, non e of the lute's diapasons would be used... Transposing means some

[LUTE] Re: F.W.Rust

2019-02-13 Thread Alain Veylit
A belated thanks to Arthur for his information on F.W. Rust. I foolishly attempted a transcription of the C Major sonata for lute and viola in notation (see https://digital.staatsbibliothek-berlin.de/werkansicht?PPN=PPN882226452=PHYS_0001=). It is quite challenging for a number of reasons:

[LUTE] Re: Thomson, Haydn, Beethoven (was Barbara Allen)

2019-02-05 Thread Alain Veylit
on songs have a long introduction with extensive information on the songs. Am 05.02.2019 20:11 schrieb howard posner: On Feb 5, 2019, at 12:38 AM, Alain Veylit wrote: I suspected I was a bit overly paranoid. Not really, given the number of works falsely attributed to Haydn. It seems to

[LUTE] Re: Barbara Allen

2019-02-05 Thread Alain Veylit
the results include both a violin part and a figured bass. How much work would that be for Haydn or Beethoven? Sorry for thinking/musing out loud... On 2/4/19 4:39 PM, howard posner wrote: On Feb 4, 2019, at 3:51 PM, Alain Veylit wrote: I am looking at an 18th century setting of the Scottish

[LUTE] Barbara Allen

2019-02-04 Thread Alain Veylit
Hi all, I am looking at an 18th century setting of the Scottish ballad "Barbara Allen". How credible is the "Harmonized by Joseph Haydn" credit? It's on IMLSP at: https://imslp.org/wiki/Barbara_Allen%2C_Hob.XXXIa:11_(Haydn%2C_Joseph) Th melody and lyrics are quite different from the 20th

[LUTE] Re: Rust

2019-01-04 Thread Alain Veylit
Thanks Arthur, I am very curious about Mr Scurius / Squirrel: how does he fit in the story? The idea behind the Wilhem Rust "deception" was to make Friedrich Rust appear to be the missing link between Mozart and Beethoven, which lute music would not necessarily or obviously support

[LUTE] Re: Rust, Friedrich Wilhelm

2019-01-04 Thread Alain Veylit
rieb Alain Veylit mailto:al...@musickshandmade.com>>: Anyone knows anything about a Sonata per liuto et viola d'amore (C Major) by Friedrich Wilhelm Rust? There is a facsimile of the score in Berlin with both parts in notation - I am just wondering about the quality of the music. I am not th

[LUTE] Rust, Friedrich Wilhelm

2019-01-03 Thread Alain Veylit
Anyone knows anything about a Sonata per liuto et viola d'amore (C Major) by Friedrich Wilhelm Rust? There is a facsimile of the score in Berlin with both parts in notation - I am just wondering about the quality of the music. I am not the only one, and there is a nice controversy about his

[LUTE] Re: stump?

2018-12-21 Thread Alain Veylit
‘Alman R. Johnson to the stump by F.P.’: odd to mention the instrument maker's name... Not that they don't deserve it, but it was not common practice. Could "F.P." be Francis Pilkington and the stump a type of music piece, maybe a ground? On 12/21/18 4:32 AM, Ed Durbrow wrote: I’d like to see

[LUTE] Re: Tablature

2018-12-11 Thread Alain Veylit
Many thanks Goran for your kind words. Tablature is insufficiently recognized as the first form of computer code: converting music to numbers was done long before DVDs came about, after all. I am really glad though that tablature never made it to the compression stage... Although you could

[LUTE] Re: Da Milano

2018-12-11 Thread Alain Veylit
If I recall correctly, Neapolitan tablature is similar to Spanish but fret numbers start with 1 instead of zero - i.e. an empty string is notated 1. I think French tablature won out for the lute because it is much easier to notate diapasons in that system - as opposed to Italian tab. Modern

[LUTE] Re: Looking for the printed Minkoff facsimile of the Manuscrit Barbe

2018-10-13 Thread Alain Veylit
Je crois que pour le MS Barbe la couleur est importante - comme pour le Capirola On 10/13/2018 09:13 AM, Luca Manassero wrote: Dear collective wisdom, I already have a digital copy of the Manuscrit Barbe, but the printed facsimile of Minkoff Editions is simply beautiful (with all

[LUTE] Re: A shared thought about lute music performance.

2018-10-02 Thread Alain Veylit
It's always good practice, when you practice a piece, to practice it slower and slower, instead of faster and faster. On 10/01/2018 06:21 PM, Tobiah wrote: I was just playing a favored piece, and a familiar thought came to mind.  Slow down, and savor, and be faithful to every note. These

[LUTE] Re: The awful English language

2018-09-18 Thread Alain Veylit
Zut alors... A good reminder one should always cite one's sources, just in case they are really silly On 09/18/2018 03:04 AM, Rainer wrote: On 17.09.2018 23:23, Ido Shdaimah wrote:     I hereby propose the following theory: Giovanni Pierluigi da Palestrina     is a fiction; much like Santa

[LUTE] Re: The awful English language

2018-09-18 Thread Alain Veylit
for a coup d'etat. It is not just what you say, but also how you say it that matters. And now, back to the Shakespeare thread... On 09/17/2018 09:05 PM, howard posner wrote: On Sep 17, 2018, at 1:37 AM, Alain Veylit [1] wrote: look for something called "law French", a lan

[LUTE] Re: The awful English language

2018-09-17 Thread Alain Veylit
If you really want to have a blast at the awful English language, look for something called "law French", a language understood only by English lawyers and very much alive until at least the 18th century. It makes modern legaleeze sound simple, although still difficult to read because in very

[LUTE] Re: Left hand technique

2018-08-16 Thread Alain Veylit
Great story. On 08/16/2018 10:32 AM, Caroline Usher wrote: Leonard, If you rotate the lute along the axis of the strings so that the top edge of the soundboard is somewhat closer to your body, the effect is to bring the fingerboard a little closer to horizontal. That will help. I remember

[LUTE] Re: Samuel Pepys

2018-08-12 Thread Alain Veylit
A scholar yet not a gentleman On 08/12/2018 02:50 PM, G. C. wrote: I just found out, that SP was the Harvey Weinstein of the 1660s! They obviously had no #metoo campaigns in those days. And completely different men-women relationships. It's quite strange to read his coded

[LUTE] Re: ornamentation in singing

2018-08-11 Thread Alain Veylit
A member of the group wishes to know where to find good sources about ornamentation in singing in the Elizabethan era. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: W. Cripps tab program

2018-08-11 Thread Alain Veylit
This may be of interest to the aficionados of Wayne's tab program. Wayne's tab program produces very legible and elegant output and it is reasonably easy to input tablature quickly, without a heavy learning curve. On the downside, users have to install it the old way on their system, - which

[LUTE] Re: Naughty songs (was: prostitution)

2018-08-10 Thread Alain Veylit
n published." Talking about Beethoven, my favorite musical joke still remains Peter Schickele's "And they're off!": [7]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzXoVo16pTg Good day. On 08/10/2018 09:27 AM, howard posner wrote: On Aug 10, 2018, at 2:37 AM, Alain Veylit [8]

[LUTE] Re: prostitution

2018-08-10 Thread Alain Veylit
...in I go Jones!” Sent from my iPhone On Aug 10, 2018, at 5:37 AM, Alain Veylit wrote: I seem to remember reading about Purcell being particularly targeted by this kind of mirthy-ful mis-attribution. My memory can well be wrong. Most of Purcell's music was published posthumously and i

[LUTE] Re: prostitution

2018-08-10 Thread Alain Veylit
sides Lasso?? On 08/09/2018 10:06 PM, howard posner wrote: On Aug 9, 2018, at 9:15 PM, Alain Veylit wrote: Like Henry Purcell, who seems to have found his name attached to a very large number of bawdy songs in 17th century England, if I recall correctly. Is there any reason to think he didn

[LUTE] Re: prostitution

2018-08-09 Thread Alain Veylit
Indeed. There is a famous alexandrin in one of Corneille's tragedies: "Et le desir s'accroit quand l'effet se recule". A line that is very, very ambiguous phonetically... On 08/09/2018 05:00 PM, howard posner wrote: obody’s serious all the time. To get on or off this list see list

[LUTE] Re: prostitution

2018-08-09 Thread Alain Veylit
There is a piece in Dd.2.11 entitled: "Catin" (by Orlando di Lasso!). Yesterday I saw one entitled "la pute". What are the odds that neither title would not refer to their modern meaning of "prostitute"? This also reminds me of the not so secret behind "green sleeves". Dutch paintings show many

[LUTE] Re: Dont vient cela

2018-08-06 Thread Alain Veylit
tes it down. If pronounced German style, it would sound like "Dou vèn tselà " :) Am 04.08.2018 um 00:10 schrieb Alain Veylit: > Among the various spellings of the famous "Dont vient cela" tune I found > : "Du Wentzela Ein Welscher Tanz" in N

[LUTE] Re: the oud so wild

2018-08-03 Thread Alain Veylit
competent players. I enjoyed it. And the oud player really resembles Tom Hanks. :) But what with the background soundtrack? Does it improve the listening experience? G. On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 12:05 AM, Alain Veylit <[1]al...@musickshandmade.com> wrote: Some comment

[LUTE] Re: Dont vient cela

2018-08-03 Thread Alain Veylit
Among the various spellings of the famous "Dont vient cela" tune I found : "Du Wentzela Ein Welscher Tanz" in Neusiedler. Certainly one of the most exotic spellings so far. I guess he used a very early version of Google translate. To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: the oud so wild

2018-08-03 Thread Alain Veylit
is that subliminal track in the back, with birds and electronic sounds? G. [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1Sb-8kiAJA=1441s On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 6:49 AM, Alain Veylit <[2]al...@musickshandmade.com> wrote: It's all one big Muslim conspiracy: [3

[LUTE] Re: the oud so wild

2018-08-03 Thread Alain Veylit
Christopher, Try this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1Sb-8kiAJA=1441s Alain On 08/03/2018 03:42 AM, Christopher Stetson wrote: Hi, Alain. The link doesn't work for me, what was the original title? Best, Chris. On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 12:49 AM, Alain Veylit <

[LUTE] Re: the oud so wild

2018-08-02 Thread Alain Veylit
It's all one big Muslim conspiracy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1Sb-8kiAJ - yes, but which instrument are they playing exactly?? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Bergamasca video

2018-08-01 Thread Alain Veylit
Well done Ed - Who says you can't play a 16-course archlute piece on  7-course lute? - Also I like the fact that you memorized the piece before recording it. Check out the Kapsberger settings if you have no done so - it could make a nice medley. On 08/01/2018 09:07 PM, Ed Durbrow wrote: I

[LUTE] Re: tab program

2018-07-26 Thread Alain Veylit
be rewritten as a special character which is half of a pair of balanced quotes. Mac TextEdit does this, and you have to turn off smart editing. I use a programmers editor like vim or emacs that doesn’t make the switch. Wayne Begin forwarded message: From: Alain Veylit Subject: [LUTE] Re: tab

[LUTE] Re: tab program

2018-07-26 Thread Alain Veylit
A quick question about Wayne's tab program: how do I get the French accents (e acute, e grave) to display correctly in the titles? I am getting slashed Os instead of 'é' (e acute) for example, and a slashed L for 'è'. The c cedilla however is fine, and u umlaut ... Example: { Bourrée } Also:

[LUTE] Re: bergamasca

2018-07-26 Thread Alain Veylit
it's all there, thanks a lot! Jurgen -- “There is a voice that doesn’t use words. Listen.” Jalāl ad-Dīn Muhammad Rumi ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On 26 July 2018 12:32 AM, Alain Veylit wrote: I think this is the one - famously used by Respighi in his

[LUTE] Re: bergamasca

2018-07-25 Thread Alain Veylit
I think this is the one - famously used by Respighi in his Ancient Airs and Dances [1]http://fandango.musickshandmade.com/images/facsimiles/Italian/Gianon celli/G_P8.jpg [2]http://fandango.musickshandmade.com/images/facsimiles/Italian/Gianon celli/G_P9.jpg On 07/25/2018

[LUTE] Re: Krebs concerto for lute and strings

2018-07-17 Thread Alain Veylit
Any lute recording of this: "Johann Ludwig Krebs - Concerto for Guitar and String Orchestra"? It was written for D-minor lute and strings, NOT guitar... see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwyO_oDRX3U To get on or off this list see list information at

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