...@gamutstrings.com]
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 11:26 AM
To: Eugene C. Braig IV; ' Mathias Rösel '; 'Edward Martin'
Cc: 'Lutelist'
Subject: RE: [LUTE] Re: : Cost of a lute?
Out of curiosity, how does Adirondack (picea
rubens) stack up for nylon strung guitars?
ed
At 09:03 AM 10/2/2009, Eugene
To: howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com
Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:24 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: : Cost of a lute?
There are some people wastes 50 years to create their art designs
cheapest , no need to cnc lathes and enviromentally friendly
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From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On
Behalf Of Mathias Rösel
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 5:29 AM
To: Edward Martin
Cc: Lutelist
Subject: [LUTE] Re: : Cost of a lute?
Edward Martin e...@gamutstrings.com schrieb:
Yes, good wood is not cheap. You
: [LUTE] Re: : Cost of a lute?
There are some people wastes 50 years to create their art designs
cheapest , no need to cnc lathes and enviromentally friendly.
I gave my 25 years to studying this kind of stuff.
If you look to Luigi Colani , he creates whatever he
Martin
Cc: Lutelist
Subject: [LUTE] Re: : Cost of a lute?
Edward Martin e...@gamutstrings.com schrieb:
Yes, good wood is not cheap. You mentioned
spruce... I received my 11-course lute a week
ago! It had an accident, and the belly had been
destroyed. So, Dan Larson put a new top
: [LUTE] Re: : Cost of a lute?
Out of curiosity, how does Adirondack (picea
rubens) stack up for nylon strung guitars?
ed
At 09:03 AM 10/2/2009, Eugene C. Braig IV wrote:
As I suspect you know, Mathias (and Ed), red spruce (Picea rubens) has
been
a prized tonewood in the American guitar
Message-
From: Edward Martin [mailto:e...@gamutstrings.com]
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 11:26 AM
To: Eugene C. Braig IV; ' Mathias Rösel '; 'Edward Martin'
Cc: 'Lutelist'
Subject: RE: [LUTE] Re: : Cost of a lute?
Out of curiosity, how does Adirondack (picea
rubens) stack up for nylon
(think of Altos and their Baroque plastic recorders, which can be
phenomenally good but they ain't wood).
Molds for plastic are capable of the precision needed to churn out
instruments that are acousitcally similar, making post-mold tuning
unnecessary.
So long as the instrument is blown by a
I wonder if you could relatively inexpensively construct a lute (the bowl,
at minimum) from carbon fiber (like some acoustic guitars) or molded
plastic
(like an Ovation guitar), and what it would sound like?
Plastic was tried by EMS/Bradford (or was it cast resin?)
Carbon fiber would be
, September 30, 2009 10:59 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: : Cost of a lute?
I don't think you've understood the problem at hear.A It is not about
the material, and BTW carbon fiber lute was done as an experiment by
Charles Besnainou in France back in the 80's:A
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From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On
Behalf Of dem...@suffolk.lib.ny.us
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:36 PM
To: morgan cornwall
Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: : Cost of a lute?
I wonder if you could
On Oct 1, 2009, at 1:01 PM, Eugene C. Braig IV wrote:
Merrill managed to pull off aluminum-backed instruments in the late
19th c:
http://www.mugwumps.com/aluminum.htm
Of course, they did have a wooden strip at the edge of shell for
joining
soundboard. I've handled guitars and
]howard posner
To: [2]Eugene C. Braig IV
Cc: [3]dem...@suffolk.lib.ny.us ; [4]'morgan cornwall' ;
[5]l...@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: : Cost of a lute?
On Oct 1, 2009, at 1:01 PM, Eugene C. Braig IV wrote:
Merrill
There are some people wastes 50 years to create their art designs
cheapest , no need to cnc lathes and enviromentally friendly.
I gave my 25 years to studying this kind of stuff.
If you look to Luigi Colani , he creates whatever he wants with hot
wire cut foam.
I think this is
; Eugene C. Braig IV
Cc: dem...@suffolk.lib.ny.us; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: : Cost of a lute?
While I don't think I will try and string up my pots and pans, I would
probably buy a set of pots that looked like various historic lutes.
Imagine the theorbo
I have the remains of a very old Hachez lute whose top had come off, and we now
use it as a curious salad bowl...
Alfred
in Berkeley
--- On Thu, 10/1/09, Eugene C. Braig IV brai...@osu.edu wrote:
From: Eugene C. Braig IV brai...@osu.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: : Cost of a lute?
To: lute
Jaroslaw Lipski
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From: Mustafa Umut Sarac mustafaumutsa...@gmail.com
To: howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com
Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:24 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: : Cost of a lute?
There are some people wastes 50 years to create
@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:24 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: : Cost of a lute?
There are some people wastes 50 years to create their art designs
cheapest , no need to cnc lathes and enviromentally friendly.
I gave my 25 years to studying this kind of stuff.
If you look
in Berkeley
--- On Thu, 10/1/09, Eugene C. Braig IV brai...@osu.edu wrote:
From: Eugene C. Braig IV brai...@osu.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: : Cost of a lute?
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 2:25 PM
Hmmm, an iron
theorbo would probably make for a pretty good wok
.
Best
Jaroslaw Lipski
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From: Mustafa Umut Sarac mustafaumutsa...@gmail.com
To: howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com
Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:24 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: : Cost of a lute?
There are some people wastes 50
Hello,
A
I can't believe your question.A That's the most ridiculous thinking.
A
With your thinking, then why are paintings so expensive? is it
materials? is it labour?A A What about a Mercedes Benz versus a
Hyundai made in Korea? is that labour? is that materials? is
Dear Seth,
All of those..
Materials, Labor, Know-how and the fact that are so few lutenists around
the world.
In Romania... we are just few (maximum 10) of us and the population is
23 millions
Selling en-gros makes the price lower.
If you buy a Pakistani lute, as mister Lorinczi said, you have
Because a good Lute by a master craftsman is more a work of art than the sum
total of a bunch of wooden elements shaped by hand and glued together. Most
who play the Lute can tell from the quality of the sound whether the Lute is
the work of skill and artistry or the product of some sort of
Seth wrote:
SASo the thread about student lutes and costs has got my brain working...
SAand let me state right away that by profession I am a business man and
SAnot am musician.
SA
I would also think that the primary market for these instruments would
be the Eastern oud market.
On Sep 30, 2009, at 3:18 PM, Seth Appel wrote:
I am a business man and
not am musician...
...it escapes
me why there are not cheap but OK lutes in the marketplace.
Sure, there are 300 dollar Yamaha CG's hanging on the walls of every
music store in the civilized world. But that's because
Thanks for the thoughtful and passionate responses. Apologies to
Bruno! Didn't mean to upset anyone's sensibilities.
Items are worth what people are willing to pay - obviously - but it's
actually more complicated then that. An iphone was $700 a few years
ago, and now they are
So the thread about student lutes and costs has got my brain working...
and let me state right away that by profession I am a business man and
not am musician.
Then as a businessman you know enough to begin with a market survey.
The mailing lists of the various lute societys are a
Hi, all,
All good points, Seth, and I think another aspect is the desires of the
lute builders. If one perfected the $500 lute, one would end up
running a factory, not making instruments. Most lute builders, I
suspect, would rather make instruments than run a factory. And
I wonder if you could relatively inexpensively construct a lute (the bowl,
at minimum) from carbon fiber (like some acoustic guitars) or molded plastic
(like an Ovation guitar), and what it would sound like?
To get on or off this list see list information at
The did this back in the 1908s? I think these lutes were made by Ian
Harwood and John Issacs. I am not sure of all the reasons why they are
not still around.
Nancy
I wonder if you could relatively inexpensively construct a lute (the
bowl, at minimum) from carbon fiber
Morgan wrote:
mc I wonder if you could relatively inexpensively construct a lute (the bowl,
mc at minimum) from carbon fiber (like some acoustic guitars) or molded
plastic
mc (like an Ovation guitar), and what it would sound like?
mc
I was wondering this exact thing myself, with more than
Carbon fiber is not exactly an inexpensive alternative. As things
stand now, it still requires a pretty high level of skilled labor.
Maybe in China it could be cost effective to try it, but there are
other problems still, as Mark suggests (the look of the thing) in
having it accepted-
Kevin wrote:
KK Carbon fiber is not exactly an inexpensive alternative...
KK requires a pretty high level of skilled labor.
KK Maybe in China it could be cost effective to try it, but there are
KK other problems still, as Mark suggests (the look of the thing) in
KK having it accepted-
I don't think you've understood the problem at hear.A It is not about
the material, and BTW carbon fiber lute was done as an experiment by
Charles Besnainou in France back in the 80's:A
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