[LUTE] Re: Another lute picture?

2015-11-29 Thread Ed Durbrow
I think the face of the man was painted by someone else. Possibly Mr. Bean. Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www.youtube.com/user/edurbrow?feature=watch https://soundcloud.com/ed-durbrow http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ -- To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: Another lute picture?

2015-11-25 Thread AJN
Dear David, Yes, what I was attempting to suggest is that the lute is simply a prop and the sitter is not actually playing it. It's there to symbolize something like harmonious love. And does the left hand position have additional symbolism. I guess one could really make a

[LUTE] Re: Another lute picture?

2015-11-25 Thread Geoff Gaherty
On 2015-11-25 10:16 AM, AJN wrote: I must agree it doesn't look like an original painting by a Dutch master. This discussion has been fun, but I hope whoever paid $194,500 for this painting never sees this! My favourite of the theories is that it is some kind of joke. Even if this wasn't

[LUTE] Re: Another lute picture?

2015-11-24 Thread Leonard Williams
Does the inside joke have anything to do with the violist's right hand disappearing behind the lady's skirts??? She seems slightly enraptured, he looks amused. Leonard On 11/24/15, 8:19 AM, "Gary Boye" wrote: > Martyn, > There

[LUTE] Re: Another lute picture?

2015-11-24 Thread r.turov...@gmail.com
To: [2]Stuart Walsh; [3]David Van Edwards Cc: [4]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Another lute picture? That's my take. A 17th century blond joke. RT On 11/24/2015 1:47 PM, Stuart Walsh wrote: > Somebody with the intention and the skill and knowledge to create a f

[LUTE] Re: Another lute picture?

2015-11-24 Thread r.turov...@gmail.com
Walsh; [3]David Van Edwards Cc: [4]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Another lute picture? the painting technique looks pretty genuine to me. so do garment fashions. RT On 11/24/2015 2:22 PM, Stuart Walsh wrote: Definitely 17th century

[LUTE] Re: Another lute picture?

2015-11-24 Thread David Van Edwards
Dear Stuart, No you're right. I cannot see how it could possibly be genuine. And I thought I'd been pretty clear in the article, but maybe my lightly ironic tone doesn't make it across the pond. Best wishes, David At 17:08 + 24/11/15, WALSH STUART wrote: On 24/11/2015 15:36, David

[LUTE] Re: Another lute picture?

2015-11-24 Thread Stuart Walsh
" <da...@vanedwards.co.uk> Sent: ‎24/‎11/‎2015 17:22 To: "WALSH STUART" <s.wa...@ntlworld.com> Cc: "lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Another lute picture? Dear Stuart, No you're right. I cannot see how it could possibly

[LUTE] Re: Another lute picture?

2015-11-24 Thread Christopher Wilke
;[6][6][8]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Tuesday, 24 November 2015, 13:19 Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Another lute picture? Martyn, There seems to be an inside joke we're not privy to here. It may just be that the artist liked the 90 degree angle created by the 2

[LUTE] Re: Another lute picture?

2015-11-24 Thread WALSH STUART
On 24/11/2015 15:36, David Van Edwards wrote: However I think the painting I discussed was simply copying the prop[s] from Eglon van der Neer's works! The physical impossibility of holding such a lute in such a position without grossly disturbing the diapason strings makes me

[LUTE] Re: Another lute picture?

2015-11-24 Thread r.turov...@gmail.com
The lute was exactly that - a symbol familial harmony, even in the hands of whores in Dutch paintings, where is was meant so - sarcastically. RT On 11/24/2015 9:38 AM, AJN wrote: There are paintings of the interiors of artists' studios that show props used in pictures: busts,

[LUTE] Re: Another lute picture?

2015-11-24 Thread r.turov...@gmail.com
be the equivalent of a sort of folly? -Original Message- From: "David Van Edwards" <da...@vanedwards.co.uk> Sent: тАО24/тАО11/тАО2015 17:22 To: "WALSH STUART" <s.wa...@ntlworld.com> Cc: "lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Subject: [LUTE] Re

[LUTE] Re: Another lute picture?

2015-11-24 Thread Arto Wikla
Message- From: "David Van Edwards" <da...@vanedwards.co.uk> Sent: ‎24/‎11/‎2015 17:22 To: "WALSH STUART" <s.wa...@ntlworld.com> Cc: "lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Another lute picture? Dear Stuart, No

[LUTE] Re: Another lute picture?

2015-11-24 Thread Stuart Walsh
mouth.edu" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Another lute picture? That's my take. A 17th century blond joke. RT On 11/24/2015 1:47 PM, Stuart Walsh wrote: > Somebody with the intention and the skill and knowledge to create a fake 17th > century Dutch master would sure

[LUTE] Re: Another lute picture?

2015-11-24 Thread AJN
There are paintings of the interiors of artists' studios that show props used in pictures: busts, skulls, ornate chairs, drapes and sometimes (iirc) musical instruments. Such props are even listed in tax inventories, I understand. Art historians have traced some from painting to

[LUTE] Re: Another lute picture?

2015-11-24 Thread jmpoirier2
Message d'origine De : Martyn Hodgson <hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk> Date : 24/11/2015 12:14 (GMT+01:00) A : David Van Edwards <da...@vanedwards.co.uk>, lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Objet : [LUTE] Re: Another lute picture? Very interesting David. It m

[LUTE] Re: Another lute picture?

2015-11-24 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Very interesting David. It may be simply a fashionable couple wanting to be portrayed performing but in fact unable to play a note! Perhaps the painter who, as you point out, might be thought to have known better was laughing up his sleeve... Or perhaps, and maybe more likely

[LUTE] Re: Another lute picture?

2015-11-24 Thread Martyn Hodgson
boy...@appstate.edu> To: Martyn Hodgson <hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: David Van Edwards <da...@vanedwards.co.uk>; "lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Tuesday, 24 November 2015, 13:19 Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Another lute picture? Martyn,

[LUTE] Re: Another lute picture?

2015-11-24 Thread r.turov...@gmail.com
Great one! Reminds me of an old joke: "A saw a blond today in a red convertible, with the license plate that said "Blonds are not stupid!". The plate was upside down." RT On 11/24/2015 5:50 AM, David Van Edwards wrote: Dear All, My Lute of the Month series has dwindled to lute of the

[LUTE] Re: Another lute picture?

2015-11-24 Thread AJN
__ From: Gary Boye <[2][2]boy...@appstate.edu> To: Martyn Hodgson <[3][3]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: David Van Edwards <[4][4]da...@vanedwards.co.uk>; "[5][5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" <[6][6]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Tuesday, 24 Nove

[LUTE] Re: Another lute picture?

2015-11-24 Thread Christopher Wilke
Sent: Tuesday, 24 November 2015, 13:19 Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Another lute picture? Martyn, There seems to be an inside joke we're not privy to here. It may just be that the artist liked the 90 degree angle created by the 2 instruments when held th

[LUTE] Re: Another lute picture?

2015-11-24 Thread Christopher Wilke
id Van Edwards <[4][5]da...@vanedwards.co.uk>; "[5][6]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" <[6][7]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Tuesday, 24 November 2015, 13:19 Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Another lute picture? Martyn, There seems to be an inside

[LUTE] Re: Another lute picture?

2015-11-24 Thread Paolo Busato
outh.edu" [8]<[6][7]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Tuesday, 24 November 2015, 13:19 Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Another lute picture? Martyn, There seems to be an inside joke we're not privy to here. It may just be that the art