Somebody with the intention and the skill and knowledge to create a fake 17th century Dutch master would surely have not included all the odd things that David points to. Could the painting be the equivalent of a sort of folly?
-----Original Message----- From: "David Van Edwards" <[email protected]> Sent: â24/â11/â2015 17:22 To: "WALSH STUART" <[email protected]> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Another lute picture? Dear Stuart, No you're right. I cannot see how it could possibly be genuine. And I thought I'd been pretty clear in the article, but maybe my lightly ironic tone doesn't make it across the pond. Best wishes, David At 17:08 +0000 24/11/15, WALSH STUART wrote: >On 24/11/2015 15:36, David Van Edwards wrote: >> >> However I think the painting I discussed was simply copying the prop[s] >> from Eglon van der Neer's works! The physical impossibility of holding >> such a lute in such a position without grossly disturbing the diapason >> strings makes me think that the painting has nothing to do with either >> van der Neer or van der Werff. Plus all the other anachronisms! > > >Fascinating. > > >David, I read your interpretation as being much more sceptical about >this painting than the people who have so far contributed to this >thread. Am I wrong? > > > >Stuart > >> Best wishes, >> >> David >> >> At 08:38 -0600 24/11/15, AJN wrote: >> >> There are paintings of the interiors of artists' studios that >> show >> props used in pictures: >> busts, skulls, ornate chairs, drapes and sometimes (iirc) musical >> instruments. Such >> props are even listed in tax inventories, I understand. >> Art historians have traced some from painting to painting, e.g., >> an >> ornate three-leg chair. >> Instruments might serve, as perhaps is the case in this painting, >> as symbols of the harmonious nature of love. The over reaction >> of the >> sitters in >> this painting recalls, at least to me, the depictions of various >> emotions illustrated in old treatises on acting. "Hamming it up" >> seems >> to have been part of theatrical performances >> in the past. So, one might argue, this painting may have been >> intended >> as a serious depiction. Ad the angles of the >> two instruments, as Gary notes, may have been foremost in the >> artist's >> plan. >> On the other hand, musicians would surely demand precision in the >> depiction of fingerings, holding the instrument, etc., >> because their professional competency might otherwise be >> questioned. >> Interesting discovery, David. I must visit your web page more >> >> frequently. Arthur >> >>-- >> >> The Smokehouse, >> 6 Whitwell Road, >> Norwich, NR1 4HB >> England. >> >> Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 >> Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk >> >> -- >> >> >>To get on or off this list see list information at >>http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> > > >--- >This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- The Smokehouse, 6 Whitwell Road, Norwich, NR1 4HB England. Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk --
