[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book - Gautier Son adieu

: Freitag, 2. Februar 2018 19:51 An: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book - Gautier Son adieu Am 02.02.2018 um 19:04 schrieb Alain Veylit: > I could not find the references to Cherbury on Peter Stueur's site > alas... (I wonder if the Vorhandene Manuskripte table

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book - Gautier Son adieu

They Montmorency family JM > Le 3 févr. 2018 à 20:19, G. C. a écrit : > > I forgot, there is a lengthy passage in Mathew Spring's book about this > matter. And also interesting is, that there is a connection with lord > Herbert and Ennemond with the Mont...(?) family.

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book - Gautier Son adieu

I forgot, there is a lengthy passage in Mathew Spring's book about this matter. And also interesting is, that there is a connection with lord Herbert and Ennemond with the Mont...(?) family. G. [1]https://www.antiquestradegazette.com/news/2016/jacobean-miniature-

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book - Gautier Son adieu

Feb 3, 2018 12:33 pm Subject: [LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book - Gautier Son adieu > You are quoting what Thurston Dart wrote in 1957. But Jean-Marie has > convincingly mentioned the letter which proved that lord Herbert was > involved in trying to get Jacques extr

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book - Gautier Son adieu

> You are quoting what Thurston Dart wrote in 1957. But Jean-Marie has > convincingly mentioned the letter which proved that lord Herbert was > involved in trying to get Jacques extradited back to France and > therefore "would not likely collect music by him". Of course, this is a > bit

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book - Gautier Son adieu

Dear Jaroslaw, You are quoting what Thurston Dart wrote in 1957. But Jean-Marie has convincingly mentioned the letter which proved that lord Herbert was involved in trying to get Jacques extradited back to France and therefore "would not likely collect music by him". Of course, this

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book - Gautier Son adieu

Most probably Gauthier refers to Jacques Gaultier d’Angleterre. After killing his opponent in a duel Gaultier came to England in 1617. He was a member of King’s Musick beginning with 1619 until 1648. Although Lord Herbert traveled both to France and Rome he returned to London in 1617, so he had

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book - Gautier Son adieu

Thanks everyone for your quick responses - all of it very useful. Jean-Marie, il y a encore une grosse zone d'obscurite et je ne mettrais pas ma main au feu sur cette attribution. J'ai fini par trouver 5 concordances sur le site de Peter. L'attribution a Gothier dans un des manuscrits n'aide

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book - Gautier Son adieu

About l'Adieu by Ennemond Gaultier, I forgot to say that the later version in D minor is not related to the version in Cherbury, key nor style. Jean-Marie -- > Pondering about the Gautier pieces in Cherbury/concordances: I was not > able to determine if the Courante "Son

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book - Gautier Son adieu

L'Adieu is not in Vaudry, it is in Oxford Bodleian Library G. 618 f° 24. Jean-Marie -- > Pondering about the Gautier pieces in Cherbury/concordances: I was not > able to determine if the Courante "Son adieu" in Cherbury and the one > in Vaudry Sayzenay are the same one...

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book - Gautier Son adieu

Am 02.02.2018 um 19:04 schrieb Alain Veylit: I could not find the references to Cherbury on Peter Stueur's site alas... (I wonder if the Vorhandene Manuskripte table could be given its own page with more descriptive titles associated with the sources numbers...) Alain Hi

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book - Gautier Son adieu

Pondering about the Gautier pieces in Cherbury/concordances: I was not able to determine if the Courante "Son adieu" in Cherbury and the one in Vaudry Sayzenay are the same one... Actually I was not able to locate that piece in the Vaudry de Sayzenay, but there is a recording of a