[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

2017-09-24 Thread Ed Durbrow
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2013/sep/22/the-simpsons-secret-formula-maths-simon-singh On Sep 7, 2017, at 6:20 AM, G. C. wrote: > Good point. > Whenever anything that has to do with physics or (shudder) mathematics > appears in a movie it is normally plain

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2017-09-24 Thread Ed Durbrow
Ha, ha. That lute was so funny. On Sep 7, 2017, at 1:25 AM, Rainer wrote: >> Which is everyone's favourite Period Movie when it comes to well placed >> authentic music? > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTwkQEHBUQk Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan

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2017-09-09 Thread Ed Durbrow
> Tristan von Neumann wrote: >> Which is everyone's favourite Period Movie when it comes to well placed >> authentic music? Tous les Matins du Monde https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tous_les_Matins_du_Monde Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan

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2017-09-07 Thread John Mardinly
s. Tge > episode will air in the fall. > > Sterling > > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > > Original message > From: Alain Veylit <al...@musickshandmade.com> > Date: 9/6/17 8:51 PM (GMT-07:00) > To: lutelis

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2017-09-07 Thread Alain Veylit
behalf of Ron Andrico <praelu...@hotmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 5:24 PM To: lutelist Net Subject: [LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall >Movies mess up the music and/or historical facts nearly all the time... I wonder why that is? - on behalf of Tris

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2017-09-07 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Congrats. This should result in a Lute frenzy. :) Am 07.09.2017 um 15:40 schrieb spiffys84121: In July I was asked by Disney to appear in an episode of the show Andi Mack. They needed a lute player for a big Ren Faire scene. I wascontracted to play the Gianoncelli Bergamesca on

[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

2017-09-07 Thread spiffys84121
will air in the fall. Sterling Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Original message From: Alain Veylit <al...@musickshandmade.com> Date: 9/6/17 8:51 PM (GMT-07:00) To: lutelist Net <Lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Wolf Ha

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2017-09-07 Thread Ido Shdaimah
On Sep 6, 2017 19:24, "Tristan von Neumann" <[1]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> wrote: Hello Ido, this might be of interest to you: [2]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYiYd9RcK5M [3]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi-rejaoP7U Cheers! Tristan To get on or off this

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2017-09-07 Thread mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk
I think the music for the DEvils was all arranged by Peter Maxwell DAvies - so may not have been "historically" informed. Original Message From: sfar...@gmail.com Date: 06/09/2017 19:44 To: "Rainer"<rads.bera_g...@t-online.de> Cc: <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>

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2017-09-07 Thread mathias.roe...@t-online.de
[1]Telekom Mail App --- Original-Nachricht --- Von: Alain Veylit Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall Datum: 07.09.2017, 4:51 Uhr An: lutelist Net Pride and Prejudice 2005 - luteless, but the ball scenes and costumes were well-researched. I once played with a gambist whose instrument h

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2017-09-06 Thread Alain Veylit
Pride and Prejudice 2005 - luteless, but the ball scenes and costumes were well-researched. I once played with a gambist whose instrument had been made for one of the Errol Flynn movies. On 09/06/2017 07:16 PM, Edward C. Yong wrote: Good dramas with proper period music that come to mind:

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2017-09-06 Thread Roger Landes
More good dramas with decent use of period music: David Munrow's music for the BBC productions of "Henry VIII and His Six Wives" (1972), and "Elizabeth R" (1971), as well as his uncredited contributions to Michel Legrand's score for Richard Lester's film "The Three Musketeers" (1973)

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2017-09-06 Thread Edward C. Yong
Good dramas with proper period music that come to mind: 1) The 1994 film Nostradamus. It had a scene of a country theatre, and the music accompanying was Susato, with an onstage band of instruments (unfortunately including a metal flute). Soundtrack also included Josquin, etc. 2)

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2017-09-06 Thread G. C.
Neumann wrote: and though there are no original lute pieces in it, the soundtrack contains many real lutes. (quoting the film "Bill" 2015) The duelling banjos track, with lute was a little bit relevant as well as kinda funny. Not entirely my favorite though. 6.5 out of 10. G.

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2017-09-06 Thread G. C.
[1]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0787524/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_3 -- References 1. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0787524/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_3 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

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2017-09-06 Thread G. C.
I suppose this one falls in the plain nonsence cathegory? Rainer wrote: Good point. Whenever anything that has to do with physics or (shudder) mathematics appears in a movie it is normally plain nonsense. Of course, this doesn't matter for non-mathematicians (or physicists).

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2017-09-06 Thread Rainer
On 06.09.2017 22:05, Tristan von Neumann wrote: How about "A Serious Man"? :) https://elkjerkyforthesoul.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/mathematics6.jpg Looks OK :) By the way, does anybody out there know if Beethoven really couldn't multiply? I don't trust the Internet, I have 3 or 4

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2017-09-06 Thread Tristan von Neumann
How about "A Serious Man"? :) https://elkjerkyforthesoul.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/mathematics6.jpg Am 06.09.2017 um 21:34 schrieb Rainer: Of course, this doesn't matter for non-mathematicians (or physicists). Rainer OF course, I am a mathematician :) To get on or off this list see

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2017-09-06 Thread theoj89294
"A Little Chaos" (court of France's Louis' XIV, directed by the late Alan Rickman, 2014) would have been SOOO amazing had they invested in a real french style baroque lute player. Instead, the 'lute' music cameo ruined the film pour moi. -- To get on or off this list see list

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2017-09-06 Thread Rainer
On 06.09.2017 21:44, Martin Shepherd wrote: Yes - you've reminded me that one of the defects of the otherwise excellent "Inspector Morse" series was the total lack of accuracy (to put it mildly) in the portrayal of what academics do, how they teach, and the nature of their subject matter,

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2017-09-06 Thread Steven Farrelly-Jackson
I've always rather liked this scene from Ken Russell's The Devils. [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQcNkzs8bn0 Aside from the fictional elements, any thoughts as to authenticity of performance? On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 3:34 PM, Rainer <[2]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de> wrote:

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2017-09-06 Thread Martin Shepherd
Yes - you've reminded me that one of the defects of the otherwise excellent "Inspector Morse" series was the total lack of accuracy (to put it mildly) in the portrayal of what academics do, how they teach, and the nature of their subject matter, whether it be cell biology, history or

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2017-09-06 Thread G. C.
Yes, they used Tielman Susato for the dance numbers. There was a lot of other music not listed in IMDB though. And lots of lutes. On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 9:34 PM, Rainer <[1]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de> wrote: On 06.09.2017 21:05, G. C. wrote: I see what you mean by

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2017-09-06 Thread Rainer
On 06.09.2017 20:54, Sean Smith wrote: I think it’s safe to say we pay attention to details of movies when they overlap our areas of specific interest. Good point. Whenever anything that has to do with physics or (shudder) mathematics appears in a movie it is normally plain nonsense. Of

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2017-09-06 Thread Rainer
On 06.09.2017 21:05, G. C. wrote: I see what you mean by Elgar and Mozart though :) [1]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0127536/soundtrack?ref_=tt_ql_trv_7 Rondeas I and VII from "Dansereyr" 1551 Shudder Rainer To get on or off this list see list information at

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2017-09-06 Thread Nancy Carlin
Yes, I have a friend who is a retired airline pilot and he says similar things about scenes showing the wrong type of cokpits. Nancy I think it’s safe to say we pay attention to details of movies when they overlap our areas of specific interest. When I started doing optics I suddenly noticed

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2017-09-06 Thread John Mardinly
At least when I visited the Santiago de Compostela Cathedral I was able to purchase a CD of the organ, performing Joaquin Sanchez, Domingo Losada, Gabriel Manalt and Manuel Gesto Garcia. On Sep 6, 2017, at 12:08 PM, Martin Shepherd <[1]mar...@luteshop.co.uk> wrote: That really

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2017-09-06 Thread mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk
Also of course Morales and Guerrero. When I visited the organist was playing Widor's toccata. Monica Original Message From: john.mardi...@asu.edu Date: 06/09/2017 18:57 To: "Tristan von Neumann"<tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> Cc: "lutelist Net"<lute@cs.dartmou

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2017-09-06 Thread Martin Shepherd
That really is appalling when you consider the great riches of Spanish music by Juan del Encina, Cabezon, Guerrero, Victoria, et al - sorry some of these might be Portuguese! M On 06/09/2017 20:57, John Mardinly wrote: More than movies: I recently visited the Sevilla Cathedral, where

[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

2017-09-06 Thread G. C.
I see what you mean by Elgar and Mozart though :) [1]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0127536/soundtrack?ref_=tt_ql_trv_7 On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 8:54 PM, G. C. <[2]kalei...@gmail.com> wrote: The tv-series "The Tudor's" had fine authentic golden age music. So did

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2017-09-06 Thread John Mardinly
More than movies: I recently visited the Sevilla Cathedral, where Alonso Mudarra had been Canon from 1546-1580, and the electronic self-guide devices had all background music from Handel's Messiah and Xerxes. No Spanish renaissance music. Appalling. On Sep 6, 2017, at 9:07 AM,

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2017-09-06 Thread G. C.
The tv-series "The Tudor's" had fine authentic golden age music. So did Elizabeth I and it's sequel [1]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0414055/?ref_=fn_al_ch_1a G. -- References 1. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0414055/?ref_=fn_al_ch_1a To get on or off this list see list

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2017-09-06 Thread Sean Smith
I think it’s safe to say we pay attention to details of movies when they overlap our areas of specific interest. When I started doing optics I suddenly noticed that every characters' eyeglasses were of neutral power unless thick ones were part of the plot. It may not ruin the show but I

[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

2017-09-06 Thread John Mardinly
How does Benjamin Britten's ‘Gloriana' fall in this discussion? On Sep 6, 2017, at 11:12 AM, Martin Shepherd <[1]mar...@luteshop.co.uk> wrote: It's not just music. A friend of mine who is something of an expert in historical costume has a thing or two to say about some horrors

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2017-09-06 Thread John Mardinly
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2017-09-06 Thread John Mardinly
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2017-09-06 Thread Martin Shepherd
It's not just music.  A friend of mine who is something of an expert in historical costume has a thing or two to say about some horrors - though costume is sometimes done very well.  Another friend who makes historical glass will tell you that film makers won't tolerate historical (clear)

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2017-09-06 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Thank you, that was a pretty convincing explanation. And also very sad... Am 06.09.2017 um 19:24 schrieb Ron Andrico: >Movies mess up the music and/or historical facts nearly all the time... I wonder why that is? - on behalf of Tristan von Neumann In my experience, film

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2017-09-06 Thread Matthew Daillie
On 06/09/2017 19:14, Rainer wrote: Tous les Matins du Monde? Rainer French film shot in the early 90s about Marin Marais and Sainte-Colombe. Jordi Savall made a small fortune from the soundtrack which was also released on CD. Unfortunately, from what I can remember, the attempts of some

[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

2017-09-06 Thread Rainer
elist Net"<lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Subj: [LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall On 06.09.2017 18:07, Tristan von Neumann wrote: Which is everyone's favourite Period Movie when it comes to well placed authentic music? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTwkQEHBUQk Rainer To get on or off this list se

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2017-09-06 Thread mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk
Surely it has to be "Tous le matins du mond"? The music was authentic but the plot was not. Monica Original Message From: rads.bera_g...@t-online.de Date: 06/09/2017 16:25 To: "lutelist Net"<lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Subj: [LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall On 06.09.2017

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2017-09-06 Thread Tristan von Neumann
LOL. Thank you for that outrageous example of what I was talking about :) But seriously, any good Renaissance music in movies? "Your Highness" is a fantasy spoof, yet it had nice authentic Renaissance dances in the party scene, though nobody would have complained about anything in a fantasy

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2017-09-06 Thread Daniel Shoskes
Le Roi Danse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMvpvDjFvHA > On Sep 6, 2017, at 12:07 PM, Tristan von Neumann > wrote: > > Hello Rainer, and fellow cinephile Lutists, > > This is a long standing topic of mine... > Movies

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2017-09-06 Thread Rainer
On 06.09.2017 18:07, Tristan von Neumann wrote: Which is everyone's favourite Period Movie when it comes to well placed authentic music? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTwkQEHBUQk Rainer To get on or off this list see list information at

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2017-09-06 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Hello Ido, this might be of interest to you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYiYd9RcK5M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi-rejaoP7U Cheers! Tristan Am 06.09.2017 um 18:18 schrieb Ido Shdaimah: Still waiting for a movie that uses historical forms of English, with correct

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2017-09-06 Thread Ido Shdaimah
Still waiting for a movie that uses historical forms of English, with correct pronunciation. Wouldn't it be wonderful to experience the Canterbury Tales visually whilst hearing the original Middle English? On Sep 6, 2017 19:08, "Tristan von Neumann" <[1]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de>

[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

2017-09-06 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Hello Rainer, and fellow cinephile Lutists, This is a long standing topic of mine... Movies mess up the music and/or historical facts nearly all the time... I wonder why that is? There's really good and authentic music for almost all purposes available, yet the makers choose some pseudo

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2017-09-06 Thread Rainer
A bit late (after 2.5 years) :) - I seem to have missed it in 2015. I wonder if the serial really was such a success. I have watched (in German) all 6 episodes on the German/French [sic!] TV channel Arte recently. Apparently at least 50% of the population suffered from depression in those

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2015-01-28 Thread Helen Atkinson
Here's Jacob's latest Facebook comment, for those who haven't seen it and would like his arrangement... Here is my lute arrangement of Ah Robin in five keys -- it's very straightforward really -- not a lot of elaboration on the original. Help yourselves (and anyone else too -- do

[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

2015-01-28 Thread Helen Atkinson
-- Forwarded message -- From: Helen Atkinson [1]helen.atkin...@wordstone.co.uk Date: Wednesday, 28 January 2015 Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall To: Nancy Carlin [2]na...@nancycarlinassociates.com Hi Nancy - Sorry,A this should work! [3]https

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2015-01-21 Thread Helen Atkinson
I can vouch for aA lute playing Ah Robin - it's none other than Jacob Heringman, who also appears brieflyA with theA ensemble in Boleyn'sA chamber. On Wednesday, 21 January 2015, WALSH STUART [1]s.wa...@ntlworld.com wrote: (first episode of much-hyped TV series in UK) I

[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

2015-01-21 Thread Chris Barker
There was no link. Chris -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of WALSH STUART Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 5:39 PM To: lutelist Net Subject: [LUTE] Wolf Hall (first episode of much-hyped TV series in UK) I was expecting