[LUTE] Re: Double first courses (chanterelles)

Dear Edward, Despite what the pegs on the vihuelas suggest, I've found plenty of evidence that it was strung with a single first. We need to review our ideas on the subject of vihuela stringing ... Best wishes Antonio

[LUTE] Re: Double first courses (chanterelles)

I think, that one should be careful not to generalize. Like today (where some even play with singles on ALL courses), there were different uses also in the olden days. And look at the later 6 string guitar, which even had double strung chanterelles for a period in time. G. On

[LUTE] Re: Double first courses (chanterelles)

Dear G. I'd love to know about the evidence about different usages for the vihuela. Best wishes Antonio __ From: G. C. To: "lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" Sent:

[LUTE] Re: Double first courses (chanterelles)

Dear G. It just might, but I'd rather stay with the categorical statements rather than just entertaining a possibility. Here are a few titbits: A character from a play desires to play the vihuela; his servant remarks that "no podras señor tañer/ porque le falta la prima / y

[LUTE] Re: Double first courses (chanterelles)

Si Antonio, very convincing. So the extra peg was perhaps an apendage from an even earlier time, 14th-15th c.? Funny that Sor /Aguado should have reinvented the DCC for their Guitars! G. -- To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: Double first courses (chanterelles)

“Se me revento la prima, la segunda y la tercera con los rizos de mi amada voy a encordar mi vihuela...” An interesting piece of literary iconography, isn’t it?)) RT Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 22, 2018, at 6:46 AM, Antonio Corona wrote: > > Dear G. > It just

[LUTE] public domain photos of lutes

Dear Collective Wisdom, I have a friend who wants to include a photo of a historical lute in a book he's publishing with a small press. The press would naturally prefer a photo that is in the public domain or otherwise royalty-free. Could anyone suggest a ready source for such

[LUTE] Re: Double first courses (chanterelles)

Thank you Antonio! This compilation is great - and this is why it's important to have some people on the list who actually live in Spanish repertoire. It seems pictures don't actually tell more than a thousand words. At least if they are not photographs :) Maybe the 12th fake peg is just for

[LUTE] Baroque Czech songs?

Dear collective wisdom: has anyone encountered baroque songs with lute or continuo accompaniment (suitable for plucking) that is either in Czech, is by a Czech composer and/or is found in a Czech sourced manuscript? Could stretch to include Silesia given the overlap with modern Czech lands.

[LUTE] Re: Double first courses (chanterelles)

Interesting to note however that the ancestor of the european lute, ie the arabic Oud, has had double chanterelles all throughout history... in fact its the lowest string which sometimes is single. Bruno 2018-01-22 3:29 GMT-05:00 Antonio Corona <[1]abcor...@cs.dartmouth.edu>:

[LUTE] Re: Double first courses (chanterelles)

Contemporary Mexican folk song "De la arena nace el agua" !!! "La vihuela" here to be understood like a guitar... (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_vihuela) All the best, Jean-Marie -- >“Se me revento la prima, >la segunda y la tercera >con los rizos de mi amada >voy a

[LUTE] Re: Double first courses (chanterelles)

As I said, I do. Good experience. Mathias __ Gesendet mit der [1]Telekom Mail App --- Original-Nachricht --- Von: spiffys84121 Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Double first courses (chanterelles) Datum: 22.01.2018, 16:43

[LUTE] Re: Baroque Czech songs?

Re Czech baroque songs by Michna z Otradovic: After a little bit more of web searching I can add that 1. Jindrich Macek has also played some baroque songs by Michna z Otradovic, as evidenced by this website: http://www.loutna.cz/cs/art/poslan-jest-od-boha-andel%E2%80%A6 in the somewhat unusual

[LUTE] Re: Baroque Czech songs?

Perhaps the baroque song collection "Loutna ceska" ("Czech Lute") by Michna z Otradovic (c.1600 - 1676) might qualify to fit this description? Read here about the composer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_V%C3%A1clav_Michna_z_Otradovic His music is usually sung by choirs or performed on other

[LUTE] Re: Baroque Czech songs?

Very helpful. Thanks very much to you and all who responded > On Jan 22, 2018, at 4:43 PM, Josef Berger wrote: > > Perhaps the baroque song collection "Loutna ceska" ("Czech Lute") by > Michna z Otradovic (c.1600 - 1676) might qualify to fit this > description? > > Read

[LUTE] OT--Early dance interpretation?

Not quite our topic, but I just had to share this “early” dance video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjQucCX7e8o Enjoy, Leonard To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: OT--Early dance interpretation?

Thank you! Love this... On 1/22/2018 5:14 PM, Leonard Williams wrote: Not quite our topic, but I just had to share this “early” dance video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjQucCX7e8o Enjoy, Leonard To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: Baroque Czech songs?

There is even one Aria (Air) in a lute manuskript, RA-BAn Ms. 236.R - 13769, 69v, Air de Kalivoda, which has the lute part and the German text. It should be no problem to get it together. Best regards Markus Am 22.01.2018 um 16:21 schrieb Daniel Shoskes: Dear collective wisdom: has anyone

[LUTE] Re: Double first courses (chanterelles)

Sorry I’ve come to late to the discussion, but just a few things: The iconography of 6c lutes usually (not always) shows a single first course. Surviving late 16th/early 17th C lutes from the Venere workshop (and others) usually have a double first - i.e. all lutes from treble to bass. Sellas

[LUTE] Re: Baroque Czech songs?

Great find! I have the pdf computer version by Treder but can’t seem to find the actual MS in my collection or online. If someone could share that page with me to see the words it would be much appreciated. Thanks again. > On Jan 22, 2018, at 11:37 AM, Markus Lutz wrote: >

[LUTE] Re: Baroque Czech songs?

Hi Daniel, in 2016 the song has been published in the Tablature supplement of the "Lauten Info" of the german lute society. Is send you herewith a copy. Rainer __ SEICENTO-Notenversand Rainer Luckhardt Holbeinstrasse 12 D-79312 Emmendingen Tel. ++49/(0)7641 - 932803

[LUTE] Re: Double first courses (chanterelles)

Dear Jean-Marie The "Mexican vihuela" (mainly used by Mariachis and in the "tierra caliente" area) is actually a strummed instrument more akin to a chitarra battente: five courses, vaulted back, etc. Incidentally, using "vihuela" to name the guitar is a commonplace among the

[LUTE] Re: Cavalcanti

I was looking at the OPAC of the royal library in Brussels, but there seems to be no facsimile online. Does anybody know of a facsimile somewhere on the net? Maybe the manuscript isn't (quote Arthur N.) "very exciting" but maybe the lute songs are interesting Jurgen

[LUTE] Re: Baroque Czech songs?

Well, Jindrich Macek has recorded some Janacek’s Moravian folk songs with archlute accompaniment, but I’m not sure if that answers the question!)) RT Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 22, 2018, at 10:21 AM, Daniel Shoskes wrote: > > Dear collective wisdom: has anyone

[LUTE] Re: Double first courses (chanterelles)

And my Turkish Saz, or Baglama, has THREE strings for the top course! A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. The Sleep of Reason Produces Monsters Francisco Goya On Jan 22, 2018, at 8:22 AM, Bruno Cognyl-Fournier <[1]fournier...@gmail.com> wrote: Interesting to note however that

[LUTE] Re: Double first courses (chanterelles)

PS. I mean, this must have come and went through the ages. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Double first courses (chanterelles)

Now if we could just get people to start playing double strung theorboes and attiorbatos-- ya that would make me so happy. Sterling Price Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Original message From: Bruno Cognyl-Fournier

[BAROQUE-LUTE] baroque lute scales

Hi all A few years ago Bob Barto gave out some scales for baroque lute. I used them religiously, and now seemed to have misplaced them. Reconstructing them would be instructive, but I wonder if anybody has them for copying. Thanks much Dick Brook richa...@ptd.net To get on or off this