it
load and play once thru, I played it again, but found more
stuttering.
Thanks for the thoughts.
Steve
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Hey maybe Rob is right. Nope, Rob is right.
Just to save everyone a lot of time and energy, I am ALWAYS right...
...except, maybe, this time...
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Haven't you seen the Laurel and Hardy film where they have a gramophone
in their Ford? Eventually it gets sawn in half at a sawmill...
Drifting off topic?
Rob
2008/11/24 Eugene C. Braig IV [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Or play
Or play your records on a record player :-)
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A lot of these around at the moment. Bin them.
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2008/11/22 David van Ooijen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Careful, looks like phishing!
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Are you Available
The link is to a private video which we can't view. Please adjust your
settings, Daniel, so that we can all watch it.
Rob
2008/11/22 Daniel Winheld [EMAIL PROTECTED]
One more- opinions on mic placement, sound quality, appreciated.
Can't
tell if the mic is too
for almost no cash outlay. Booking
someone to record and Master a disc would cost as much as buying the
instrument in the first place. I think I can make better recordings
than I have done before now, and I hope all this has been of use to
some of you.
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? If
that is the case, David has done an even more fantastic job than
usual.
Anthony
Le 21 nov. 08 `a 14:06, Rob MacKillop a ecrit :
I'm really sorry if all this recording-reverb discussion is boring
some
of you - it usually bores me, so I apologise. Hopefully it will only
last
Yes,that reverb is smashing !
There is one (Lexicon 480) on ebay for a mere 4,000 dollars. At that
price I would expect it to play the instrument for me as well...
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Envoye : jeudi 20 novembre 2008 09:27
A : Lute List
Objet : [LUTE] H2 test
I managed to borrow the Zoom H2 recorder from my work place. I was
contemplating buying one, and am gald of the opportunity to test one
before
David,
I think my phrasing would definitely change if you were kneeling with
your head inches from my sound hole!
Otherwise, useful comments...
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I've added another two files, one with very little reverb. I still
The little reverb version isn't quite natural. The concrete walls
(what's the set-up here?) is more convincing.
David
Thanks, Dan. Yes, beautiful music - a foretaste of the recording I'll
be doing with the viol player, Jonathan Dunford, in February. Imagine
such airs on the viol - really beautiful, and Jonathan is a
major-league player. Looking forward to working with him.
Regarding Eastern
If you could bear hearing it again (it's driving me crazy!) I've
uploaded three new versions, one tweaked by Alexander Batov which I
really like, and two by Tony Chalkley which are also excellent. I have
the same software (Nero) as Alexander, so that looks promising, but the
about such discrepancies.
Some lutenists are using these to put up their definitive
performances of a piece
Are they really? Surely there can be no such thing? I certainly would
never claim any of my performances have ever been definitive.
(Something we can all agree on!)
Rob
, Jonathan Dunford - well, he asked me to - for Alpha Recordings.
I wonder if I could persuade them to make it a 78?!
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concerts even though I live in a country which
has no interest whatsoever in Early Music.
And I hope that my lute-playing colleagues do so too, no matter what
their 'standard'. I am in their audience.
Rob MacKillop
[1]www.songoftherose.co.uk - free mp3 files and videos
Some Bach here: [1]http://luthlibrairie.free.fr/?Baroque:Allemande
Rob
2008/11/10 Marcelo F lorenciano Alonso [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi, lutelisters!
Does anyone know a transcription, in tablature, of the lute works:
BWV
995, 997, 998, 1006 and 1000 where it can
No, I was being genuine. The same goes for Trond, Danny, Roman, Arto,
and all the others. They all have those magic moments where trying
stops and being takes over. It might be one moment in a whole video, or
it might indeed be the whole video. Same goes for my students, some of
Maybe Igor is Val's evil self? It is not unknown for critics to attack
their own work under the guise of another name. Val, reveal yourself!
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I never thought of that before, Daniel. Interesting point...
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2008/11/4 Daniel Winheld [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Venegas de Henestrosa 'Libro de Cifra Nuevo' (Alcala de Henares,
1557)
- Figueta castellano (Spanish figueta) = thumb index with thumb out
I'm not so sure about the idea of beating a lute into
submission...maybe we should concentrate more on breaking in the lute
player? Each new instrument can teach us a lot, if we have ears to
learn. I have to subtly change my RH technique with every instrument I
play. Each instrument
Steve,
Normally these pieces are played on the theorbo, so if it definitely
was a baroque guitar being played, they must have been arrangements. I
know Maxwell Davis's Farewell to Stromness, although I haven't heard it
for a decade or so. I seem to recall it is a set of
Very beautiful, Roman. So many beautiful tunes. What a rich cultural
vein. Many thanks for all your efforts.
Rob MacKillop
2008/10/28 Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[2]http://www.torban.org/ruthenicae/audio/222a.mp3
[3]http://www.torban.org/ruthenicae/images/222a.pdf
Very beautiful, Roman. So many beautiful tunes. What a rich cultural
vein. Many thanks for all your efforts.
Rob MacKillop
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2008/10/27 Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[2]http://www.torban.org
I'll look into it, Arto. It would certainly be useful.
Rob
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I've added these excellent videos to the Lutes and Early Guitars
video
collection [1][3]http://www.vimeo.com/francesco
'Lovely'?
Rob
2008/10/13 Omer katzir [EMAIL PROTECTED]
nothing more to say...
just pieces from this lovely court, i have two songs written by the
king (all i could find by myself right now), greensleeves not
included.
again, thank you all for your help :-)
All good stuff, Ron Donna. I can vouch for Mignarda publications -
clear, accurate, and very useful. You are doing great work, guys.
Rob MacKillop
2008/10/9 Ron Andrico [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To All:
We have added to our web site some new mp3 clips from a recent
Oh, ye of little faith...already on his website...
Rob MacKillop, webmeister!
2008/9/23 Eleanor Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dear All,
More vids up on Gordon's YouTube page (soon to be on his website)
... this time a piece by Morlaye and a couple by Adrien Le Roy
recorded
than a reading. There will be mistakes,
but it will also be more musical.
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Hi Mike,
I don't play with fingernails, but many lute players do (and did) so
come to your own decision about that. I think the majority of us play
with flesh.
Also, many Renaissance lutes had long string lengths, even longer than
your classical guitar, so you do not need to
is found.
Thanks to Wolfgang for bringing it to Scotland and leaving it with me
for a few days whilst he has gone off on holiday to the west coast.
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Thanks for that, Arthur. She just saw it in the catalogue for Scott's
library at his home. Thought it worth mentioning.
Cheers,
Rob
2008/9/7 Arthur Ness [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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The book by Andreas Schlegal is very nice indeed, and full of
interesting information. Recommended.
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2008/9/4 howard posner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thee-oar-boe, with the initial th as in thick.
Looks like an American accent, with that oar in there, Howie. I would
say Thee - or - boe. But what do Scots know? [Don't answer that]
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My wife was doing some research on Walter Scott's library, and found
the following. Is it known otherwise?
D_, (N_) Choice Songs and Ayres for one Voyce, to sing to a Theorbo
Lute or Bass Violin - 1673.
I think the shelf number is PressPII, Abbotsford.
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the shelf number is PressPII, Abbotsford.
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=FbitKSZ_Gh0
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So there is no confusion over which note is the 'melody' note and which
is the ornament?
Rob
2008/8/20 Ed Durbrow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So many players interpret the comma ornament as an appogiatura in a
measured way. If this is correct, why didn't the composer just write
That has been online for many years now. All secondary research,
nothing primary. Useful, I imagine, for those without the original
texts. I'd forgotten about it.
Rob
2008/8/19 Mathias Roesel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Just in case you haven't seen this yet:
The photo with the two instruments together comes from Stephen Barber
and Sandi Harris's site, [1]www.lutesandguitars.co.uk - if I remember
correctly.
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2008/8/12 Wayne Cripps [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi folks -
You probably know that I run a lutes for sale web page. at
This came to my work address. Thought I'd pass it on to the lute list.
==
Hello, medieval musicians!
I'm going to organize a Minnesinger Contest at Braunschweig/Germany in
October 2009, I'm looking for a good British troubadour who's fit in
the
Sylvain Bergeron has contributed some mp3 files, including duets with
Terry McKenna. I've also placed the solo mp3 files and videos on the
same page.
[1]www.johndowland.co.uk
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with the tip of the fingers and when you lie them flat on the
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2008/7/29 Rob MacKillop [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I use Aquila D - no problems at all.
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Aquila D strings are equal to the best. They sound too big and bright for
the first month, but after that they settle down they get an almost gut-like
quality while retaining their pitch. They work for me. You can hear them
I use Aquila D - no problems at all.
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Thanks, Martyn, I didn't know that one. I'll look it up.
David
Current issue of Early Music, I believe...
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Permission now granted - many wonderful Weiss, Falkenhagen, Reusner videos
added to the Vimeo site:
http://www.vimeo.com/Francesco
Cheers, Bobby. I think the lighting is great on these videos - the playing's
not bad either!
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Just catching up with this topic. A 'new' piece by Dowland is clearly of
great interest. Can you be more specific, David? I looked at the 14th piece
(thanks for the link to the online facsimile, Valery!) - it seems to be for
8c. On my 69cms lute, the stretches are at times too much, even with
my
to the site. A few other performers and researchers
have promised material for later in the year.
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Daniel Shoskes has added quite a few Barto/Weiss/Reusner videos to the Vimeo
site: http://www.vimeo.com/Francesco
- as well as his own performances of Lauffensteiner. All well worth a look
and a listen.
There are now 136 lute and early guitar videos on the site.
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Unfortunately I was too premature in adding Bab Barto's videos to the
collected lute and early guitars page of the Vimeo site. We are still
awaiting permission from the performer. I hope he grants it, because these
are outstanding videos. In the meantime, I have removed them by request.
Apologies,
in almost 5 years, on lute, theorbo and baroque guitar. Wish me
luck...feeling nervous already. Back to Dowland after that.
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I have to do that, and I'll do it in a few minutes time. The more, the
merrier.
Rob
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Hi Rob and all,
I just put my Biber to vimeo. But how do I put/move it to your Francesco?
Arto
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I'm also happy
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I'm also happy to report that the Vimeo site for lute video performances now
has 101 videos!
http://www.vimeo.com/Francesco
You don't need to log in to watch, and the sound and vision is better than
You-know-who-Tube.
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No.
But my brain is another issue...
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2008/7/8 Ed Durbrow [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Do you folks using very low tension have a problem with string rattle?
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I once had to stand up with my arhlute on strap so as to get the sheets
on the stand into proper order. When I sat down I realized great relief
on the faces of the audience.
Mathias
Nothing to do with your zipper being undone?
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2008/6/29 Nigel Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I recently tuned my 72cm 13-course down to a tone below 415 (with strings
intended for 392, so half a tone lower than that) and it really came to
life. Could it be the lower tension strings (now around 3.5 on the top
course, basses around 2.5,
Oops.
I'm convinced that low tension is the way to go. I tune my 11c to 392. You
can hear it here: www.songoftherose.co.uk - click on baroque lute.
Rob
2008/6/29 Nigel Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I recently tuned my 72cm 13-course down to a tone below 415 (with strings
intended for 392, so
in the interim.
Kerry
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Performance is everything, whether you are a beginner or a long-standing
professional. What I like about the technology we have now is the ability
to
see the lute being
and enthusiasts. Would-be contributors (essays, mp3
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, no matter what level. So, get those cameras rolling!
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2008/6/21 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Beautiful, Rob. All of this discussion of tuning and strings is all well
and good, (and interesting) but you cut to the chase with your sensitive
playing and show us what it's all about.
Kerry
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Fuenllana has a few moments where the third finger has to cover two courses,
four strings. I could get it right about 90 per cent of the time by using
one finger, as the courses on my vihuela were very close. But it is a case
of swings and roundabouts. Sometimes we want the courses close,
Really beautiful, Martin. A fine piece and very fine playing. Isn't the
Internet a wonderful thing when used positvely and creatively? And what a
wonderful resource your website is already, with more to come. Keep up the
good work!
Rob McKillop
2008/6/20 Martin Shepherd [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Dear
Two pieces from the Rowallan ms, the weird Gypsies Lilt, and the beautiful I
Long For Thy Virginitie. Looks like I need my eighth fret tightened...
http://www.vimeo.com/1204178
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Very rare footage:
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If they were at all common why don't we see them in iconography?
There is indeed a painting which clearly shows tastini - but I can't
remember where I saw it! Sorry...
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I borrowed a friends camera - better quality than mine. It looked great on
the camera viewer, but quite dark when uploaded.
You might notice that I have strung my 11c temporarily as a 10c in viel
ton...
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It looks very beautiful, Anthony. Take your time with it. You have to grow
into each other. That takes time. Subtle instruments live longer in your
heart.
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Three cheers! Good luck with your new lute, Anthony. One day we will hear
it. Until then, how about some pictures on the lute network site?
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But does it beat at 415 pitch?
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Dear Wisdom,
What lute and voice settings are there of poems by John Donne (a long-time
favourite poet of mine)? I'm also interested in settings for viols and voice
or voices.
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Dowland? Which song?
Together with Marlow, Donne and Dowland shared the same female patron, Lucy,
Countess of Bedford. I suppose a concert programme of the three has been
done many times?
Rob
2008/6/16 howard posner [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
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What lute and voice settings
I was looking for images of the 'vertical' keyboard, but couldn't see any.
Nice sound files, though.
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Forwarding this from the Early Music Fora - although it is from Chris
Goodwin of the Lute Society, I haven't seen it here...
Dear FoMRHI member
You will be pleased to hear that after 6 years of silence, the Fellowship of
Makers and Researchers of Historical Instruments, and its Quarterly
Thanks Gary. The claim is that he played 'viol' - plucked or bowed was not
specified. See earlier comment by Antonio.
Rob
2008/6/5 gary digman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I seem to recall reading that Francesco played viola da gamba as well as
lute.
Gary
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I don't have a 6c and have never read Francesco's works on such an
instrument, but I would like to know from the collective experience here at
what length of string does it become very difficult to play his works? The
lute in the portrait of him playing (if it is indeed him) seems to have
quite a
playing where you're demonstrating
strums. it really swings!!
Jerry
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I couldn't get any of the sound files to work. Pity.
Rob
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:-)
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Well, lads, I hope you can make a recording sometime of Francesco plumbing
the depths. I'm sure it would sound splendid. The duets would be amazing. We
await...
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Thanks Antonio.
So, allow me to simplify things, at least for my own benefit, and forgive me
if I over simplify. I'm just thinking out loud...
The vihuela de mano was created in Valencia and found its way to Naples
where it became popular, more popular than the lute. Some Italian makers
started
repertoire from the first half of the sixteenth century,
as witnessed by the 1536 della Fortuna prints for viola a mano ovvero
liuto.
Best wishes,
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Thanks, Denys. That sounds an ideal starting place.
I've just read this from Chris Wilson's review of the 1997 International
Symposium on Francesco:
Dinko Fabris had some intriguing new possibilities concerning Francesco's
early years. He had uncovered in church records in Barletta, near Bari
John Griffiths' book on Neapolitan Lute Music looks very informative - you
can read some of it on Google Books:
*http://tinyurl.com/5cjr6v*
These links to Google Books are not always successful.
Looks like the works of Dentice and Severino could be added to the
viola/vihuela repertoire.
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Jean-Marie Poirier (from France)
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So what do we think of the new 'social network' sites? There is one for
lute, one for cittern and one for early guitars/vihuelas
to
the Lutes and Early Guitars Channel, which is:
http://www.vimeo.com/Francesco
Visitors welcome.
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I used to have a 12c. You can see it on David Van Edwards' site. I bought it
second hand, so had no choice in model, woods, measurements etc. My
understanding is that the larger instruments work better. I didn't have it
long enough to get into the specific repertoire for it, and to be honest,
the
Somone asked me about my strumming techniques so I've added a video on
strumming the baroque guitar here:
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It's more MacKillop than Corbetta, but you might get something out of it.
Not sure about doing it on the lute, though!
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2008/5/29 LGS-Europe [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Sounds like you were having fun, Rob. Do you ever knock a bar out of place,
or seriously damage the top? I have some rather deep scratches (woodchips
coming out of the top) and recently needed a loose bar fixed. There are
players I
A helpful note from the maker of the guitar:
''As for the proposed idea of soundboard bars getting loose, there are some
precautionary measures against this in your guitar - bar end supports. So
with the kind of strumming / hitting that you do the bars should be fine,
unless you hit really
Wear your scars with pride!
Rob
2008/5/29 LGS-Europe [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Well done! Then, I'll blame the dry weather for the loose bar and old age
for the scarred top. My guitar is 20 years old by now.
David
David van Ooijen
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Six short videos of pieces from Wemyss, Straloch and Panmure manuscripts:
http://www.vimeo.com/robmackillop/videos
Cheers,
Rob
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I agree, it is a beautiful piece. My wife's favourite.
Rob
2008/5/27 Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
The Courante is just lovely.
RT
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Six short videos of pieces from Wemyss, Straloch and Panmure manuscripts:
http://www.vimeo.com/robmackillop/videos
Cheers,
Rob
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