[LUTE] String lengths

2005-11-08 Thread Shaun Ng
Dear All, I would like some opinions and suggestions for string lengths on theorbos as I'm researching possibilities for my next commission. I really like gut strings, but dislike wound strings or synthetic strings of any sort. I would like to find out how long does the string length of

[LUTE] Roses

2005-11-24 Thread Shaun Ng
Hi all, I was wondering how many triple roses on theorbos are actually depicted in existing iconography. I can't find any yet, browsing through what there is on the net. It makes me wonder - are triple roses simply a typically early 17th century Italian feature? It seems that they were

[LUTE] Sound

2006-03-19 Thread Shaun Ng
Hardwood vs soft for ribs Earlier vs later instruments (renaissance vs baroque) Lightly built vs heavier instruments Thanks. Shaun Ng To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Sound

2006-03-21 Thread Shaun Ng
I think we are all confusing string lengths and different sizes of instruments. Different sizes of lutes can be strung with the same gauges of strings, but they end up tuned to different pitches. Theorbos are simply tuned to G or A, while following a pitch standard (392/415/440). If a

[LUTE] Re: Heretical Thinking vis a vis Lutes

2006-03-26 Thread Shaun Ng
this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Shaun Ng Perth, Western Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: +61 (0)410 820 228 Solo Recital at KULCHA - 15 April 8:00 PM http://www.kulcha.com.au/0604/index.html#SHAUN%20NG15

[LUTE] Thumb

2007-03-20 Thread Shaun Ng
Hi there lute list, I'm looking for some specific information for my thesis I'm doing on the viol. Does anybody know of any reference to the position of the left hand thumb on any plucked instrument? Thanks in advance all. Shaun Ng skype: shaunkfng tel: +61 (0)410 820228 msn: [EMAIL

[LUTE] Re: Stung again

2007-03-31 Thread Shaun Ng
Dowland, and we will have (in some part) to thank Sting. In the bigger picture of things, we haven't really performed early music long enough for it to develop, and anyhow, it is in the nature of all things that everything will change! Thanks. Shaun Ng skype: shaunkfng tel: +61 (0)410 820228 msn

[LUTE] Re: theorbo

2007-05-04 Thread Shaun Ng
, but there is also music written for the instrument specifying an instrument in A, isn't there? Shaun Ng On 04/05/2007, at 5:30 AM, Mathias Rösel wrote: Does this mean we should not use the same right hand technique to play the theorbo (chitaronne) pieces by Piccinini as for De Viséé over a century

[LUTE] Re: Historical gut strings.

2007-08-16 Thread Shaun Ng
Just a little comment outside the discussion. I think, as plucked instrumentalists, sometimes we forget how fortunate we are to have nylgut and other synthetics to play with. At least we have the option! Have you ever wondered how viol players cope with only gut? We have to change our top

[LUTE] Hautman

2008-02-12 Thread Shaun Ng
Does anyone know where this engraving of Hautman is taken from? http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/spencer/html/Page%20413.html Thanks. Shaun To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Hautman

2008-02-12 Thread Shaun Ng
source might have been. See also: http://www.unh.edu/music/Icon/iltifs.htm It might be worthwhile asking DvE. g On 12.02.2008, at 23:49, Shaun Ng wrote: Does anyone know where this engraving of Hautman is taken from? http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/spencer/html/Page%20413.html Thanks. Shaun

[LUTE] Re: Forqueray

2008-03-15 Thread Shaun Ng
Anyone else notice how the continuo part sounds redundant at times as the viol is almost always playing it's own accompaniment? The archlute is rarely playing the bass either. Yes, theorbo would have been nicer. Historically more accurate and would definitely sound better. On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at

[LUTE] Re: Forqueray

2008-03-15 Thread Shaun Ng
Let's not read too deep into Igor's comments. I think this was directed to me, at my audacity in suggesting that I may know better. While I am well capable of performing Forqueray, I think to record a version of my own online with the sole purpose to prove that I can interpret Forqueray better is

[LUTE] Mersenne quote

2008-04-21 Thread Shaun Ng
Hi all, I once copied a quote from a letter between Mersenne and Titelouze that goes like this: I remember having seen in my youth everybody admiring and being delighted by a man playing a lute, and badly enough at that... and now I see many lutenists more skilled than him who are hardly

[LUTE] French ornamentation

2008-05-06 Thread Shaun Ng
doigt de la main gauche. [2] Charles Mouton, Pi=E8ces de luth sur differents modes (Paris, c. 1680): Pour tirer la corde de la main gauche apres l'avoir touchee de la main droitte une fois. Thanks all! Shaun Ng -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu

[LUTE] Contact

2008-07-11 Thread Shaun Ng
Can someone please pass me Philip Pickett's email address off list? We used to correspond through email, but I've since lost his email. Thanks. Shaun To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Apple Tuning Applet

2009-06-15 Thread Shaun Ng
Look for an iPhone microphone adapter. Works on both iPod touch and iPhone. I have one from griffin, can't remember what it's called, but it is a quality mic. Checked meantone against my friend's $2,000 tuning machine on the harpsichord and it worked. Shaun Ng On 15/06/2009, at 17:27

[LUTE] Nicolas Vallet

2010-03-25 Thread Shaun Ng
Dear All, I was wondering if Nicolas Vallet's Secret de Muses (1615) is available online in facsimile. I am looking to do some research on his ornaments. Many thanks. Shaun Ng -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute

[LUTE] Bacilly

2010-06-23 Thread Shaun Ng
and not Bacilly's. Thanks in advance. Shaun Ng P.S. I know that this is really a topic for singers, but I am sure some theorbo players here would have some experience with Bacilly. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Theorbo treatises

2010-10-30 Thread Shaun Ng
Dear All, Does anyone happen to know if there are English translations of the following treatises and if they are available (either original or translation) online? Angelo Michele Bartolotti: Table pour apprendre facilement `a toucher le theorbe sur la basse-continue (Paris,

[LUTE] In darkness let me dwell

2012-05-03 Thread Shaun Ng
I have been asked to play the above lute song by Dowland, but one big problem: I don't play or own a renaissance lute! Would anyone happen have to a version for theorbo in French tab? Any advice appreciated. Thanks in advance. Shaun Ng 0426 240775 | shaunk...@gmail.com | shaunng.blogspot.com

[LUTE] Re: In darkness let me dwell

2012-05-03 Thread Shaun Ng
safely assume that some concessions can be made. This I suppose is not quite unlike asking a pianist to play a harpsichord! Shaun Ng 0426 240775 | shaunk...@gmail.com | shaunng.blogspot.com On 03/05/2012, at 21:33, David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 May 2012 13:19, Shaun Ng

[LUTE] Re: Are Pistoys prone to rot according to Mace?

2012-11-27 Thread Shaun Ng
their mention mostly comes a bit too late when we compare paintings of the time, which is not a good way to get credible information about musical instruments anyway. Shaun Ng 0426240 775 | shaunk...@gmail.com | shaunng.blogspot.com On 28/11/2012, at 5:35, jaroslawlip...@wp.pl wrote: Dear

[LUTE] Re: Lute bass strings - was Re: Are Pistoys prone to rot according to Mace?

2012-11-28 Thread Shaun Ng
a wire strung theorbo, if I remember rightly, and it predates both these sources, so that's at least evidence of non gut string use. But then what is the explanation for thin bass strings on lutes? For loaded strings, what is the evidence that one would expect to find? Shaun Ng On 29/11/2012

[LUTE] Re: Pistoys prone to rot (and string structure) according to Mace?

2012-11-28 Thread Shaun Ng
to back up his definition. Shaun Ng On 29/11/2012, at 8:53, jaroslawlip...@wp.pl wrote: Dear Anthony, As I said before, Martyn or Howard may be right, but if one reads the whole context it seems rather unlikely. Mace uses the word „decay” in places where he definitely means decomposition

[LUTE] Re: Lute bass strings - was Re: Are Pistoys prone to rot according to Mace?

2012-11-29 Thread Shaun Ng
been here before.. regards Martyn From: Shaun Ng shaunk...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [LUTE] Lute bass strings - was Re: Are Pistoys prone to rot according to Mace? To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Lute Dmth lute@cs.dartmouth.edu

[LUTE] Re: Lute bass strings - was Re: Are Pistoys prone to rot according to Mace?

2012-11-29 Thread Shaun Ng
Ng shaunk...@gmail.com wrote: From: Shaun Ng shaunk...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Lute bass strings - was Re: Are Pistoys prone to rot according to Mace? To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Lute Dmth lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Thursday, 29 November, 2012, 9:34 Dear

[LUTE] Re: Lute bass strings - was Re: Are Pistoys prone to rot according to Mace?

2012-11-29 Thread Shaun Ng
in later editions of Playford reprinted into the 18th century. It doesn't appear in Mace either, I think. Sounds to me like indifference to new technology, but is it really completely new considering metals have been around for such a long time? Shaun Ng On 30/11/2012, at 5:45, Dan Winheld dwinh

[LUTE] Re: Lute bass strings - was Re: Are Pistoys prone to rot according to Mace?

2012-11-29 Thread Shaun Ng
Seems that there is just a little bit more evidence for wound string use in the 18th century than there is for their supposed invention in the 1660s. Shaun Ng On 30/11/2012, at 9:39, Stephan Olbertz stephan.olbe...@web.de wrote: How about Zedler? The 64 volumes were published between 1732

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo set up

2014-02-20 Thread Shaun Ng
. This is seen in the French cantatas of his colleagues, such as Clerambault, Bernier, which Campion refers to in his Addition. Shaun Ng Sent from my iPhone On 21 Feb 2014, at 2:43 am, Luca Manassero l...@manassero.net wrote: I forgot to mention that I discovered the Franc,ois Campion' quote

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo set up

2014-02-21 Thread Shaun Ng
On 21 Feb 2014, at 6:00 pm, R. Mattes r...@mh-freiburg.de wrote: On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 10:43:23 +0800, Shaun Ng wrote I use 6+8. To me it makes more sense to have F and G as diapasons because they are used more often. Since there are more Gs than G#s in the literature, to me it makes more

[LUTE] Re: Bartolotti's continuo treatise

2014-02-27 Thread Shaun Ng
abbreviating the bass [in quick] movements. It is for this reason that I usually give, as I said, a dozen lessons on the guitar to those who intend to accompany on the theorbo. Its facility brings about in a short time [an understanding of] the touch [of the instrument]. Shaun Ng On 27 Feb 2014

[LUTE] Re: Bartolotti's continuo treatise

2014-02-27 Thread Shaun Ng
Visee and Medard were all guitarists and theorboists and indeed most professional players may have played both instruments as and when required in a manner appropriated to the occasion. Please don't knock the guitar!!! Monica - Original Message - From: Shaun Ng To: Monica Hall Cc

[LUTE] Re: Bartolotti's continuo treatise

2014-02-27 Thread Shaun Ng
Thanks for the clarification. Also thanks to Monica for mentioning the doubtful Portuguese connection. On 28 Feb 2014, at 6:49 am, Jean-Marie Poirier jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr wrote: True we do not know exactly where de Visée was from, but he was probably born in the Paris area and was active

[LUTE] Re: De Visee

2014-03-02 Thread Shaun Ng
What I find interesting in all this (Satoh’s exercise) is why De Visée needs to be foreign. Is this to align him with Lully (the Italian)? In the light of the long tradition of lute playing in France, making De Visée foreign does not seem to elevate his status. In fact, historical writers in

[LUTE] Chaconne

2014-05-16 Thread Shaun Ng
Dear List, In Toyohiko Satoh's recent lute De Visée CD, he plays a chaconne (on track 5) that has also been recorded by José Miguel Moreno on theorbo on his CD (on track 6). Where is the music for this theorbo version to be found? Many thanks in advance. Shaun Ng To get on or off

[LUTE] Re: Chaconne

2014-05-16 Thread Shaun Ng
for theorbo by De Visée that I can find in the Saizenay are in G major, A minor and D major (from Lully's Le Bourgeois gentilhomme). Am I missing something here? Shaun Ng On 16 May 2014, at 21:29, Brad Walton gtung.wal...@utoronto.ca wrote: I haven't heard the Satoh recording, but Moreno is playing

[LUTE] SJP solo

2014-05-27 Thread Shaun Ng
Dear All, As a theorbo player who doesn't play archlute or lute (yet!), I was wondering if anyone has a theorbo arrangement of Betrachte meine seel from Bach's St John Passion that they wouldn't mind sharing? :) Many thanks. Shaun Ng To get on or off this list see list information

[LUTE] Re: Italian Theorbo: 6/8, 7/8, 8/8....

2014-08-15 Thread Shaun Ng
On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 7:29, R. Mattes r...@mh-freiburg.de wrote: On Thu, 14 Aug 2014 22:26:19 +0200, Benjamin Narvey wrote Both. Whike French theorboes tended to be single strung, Taken from Robert Spencer's article: He [Mersenne] added the correction that his engraving of

[LUTE] Some French Theorbo

2015-02-10 Thread Shaun Ng
Dear All, I am a viol and theorbo player living in Sydney, Australia. Because of my fascination with the French theorbo repertoire, I have begun to post some YouTube videos of me playing some of the theorbo pieces from the Saizenay manuscript. I would like to invite you to view

[LUTE] Contact with Mr Satoh

2016-07-15 Thread Shaun Ng
Dear All, I'll be travelling to Japan in the near future and was wondering if there was anyone on the list who could help me get in touch with lutenist Toyohiko Satoh. Please write me off list. Many thanks. Kindest regards, Shaun To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Gallot Avertissement

2017-05-06 Thread Shaun Ng
Dear Lute List, I am wondering if any of you can help me locate Gallot's Pièces de luth composées sur différens mode in facsimile. I am particularly interested in the short treatise that I think might appear at the beginning of the publication. The entry in Wikipedia, I