[LUTE] Re: Broeken nylgut string

2018-02-19 Thread Matthew Daillie
You didn't mention the string length of your lute so we can't judge whether 0.44 is the right diameter or not (it would certainly be far too much for a 60 cm lute and would explain the snapping strings). Unfortunately breakage is a common problem with the current Nylgut top strings, particularl

[LUTE] Re: Broeken nylgut string

2018-02-19 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Wim, Since it is the stress (ie Tension p.u.cross sectional Area) on the string which causes it to break (at the 'Breaking Stress'), the critical factors for a particular string material are simply pitch and string length. Despite continuing mythology, absolute thickness is not

[LUTE] Re: Broeken nylgut string

2018-02-19 Thread Matthew Daillie
I was presuming a pitch of 440 but Wim mentions neither pitch nor string length. > On Feb 19, 2018, at 11:22, Martyn Hodgson > wrote: > > A nylgut string of 0.44 on a lute of 60cmm string length at A415 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lut

[LUTE] Re: Broeken nylgut string

2018-02-19 Thread Mimmo - Aquila Corde Armoniche
The problem of breackage of the thinner Nylgut strings was caused by some inner extruder parameters. The extrusion thecnology is very complex, so the problemi s not just related to the common knowledges in matter of breaking index etc . On this fyeld I am learning everyday something of new. I

[LUTE] OP

2018-02-19 Thread Martin Shepherd
I'm sending this to the lute list, as I have been invited to do so by my old friend David Hill (ex-countertenor singer of lute songs) and I think you might find it stimulating. I have to say that when I wrote my blog I was not recommending the use of OP, just trying to set out what

[LUTE] Re: Broeken nylgut string

2018-02-19 Thread Dan Winheld
Wim- No clue as to cause of the breakage until you supply essential information: 1. String length- nut to bridge? 2. A= ? 440, 415, 465, 392 - other? While stronger than equivalent gut, nylgut (especially the 1st generation, dead white stuff) is much more delicate than equivalent tension nylo

[LUTE] Re: OP

2018-02-19 Thread Matthew Daillie
I tend to think that parallels can be drawn between the use of period pronunciation and temperaments. It would be unthinkable for most early keyboard players today to perform the repertoire of Cabezon, de Macque, the English virginalists, Louis Couperin or Bach in equal temperament; they would

[LUTE] Re: Broeken nylgut string

2018-02-19 Thread Matthew Daillie
On 19/02/2018 17:53, Dan Winheld wrote: While stronger than equivalent gut, nylgut (especially the 1st generation, dead white stuff) is much more delicate than equivalent tension nylon or KF. The later, more yellow New Nylgut is stronger but still nowhere near as tough as the other synthetics.

[LUTE] Re: Broeken nylgut string

2018-02-19 Thread Leonard Williams
While string quaity has been an issue for me (using gut), another factor to consider may be the location of the break: my strings tend to wear and fray either at the point of plucking or somewhere near the most used frets (2nd and 3rd). This has often enough been due to rough,

[LUTE] Francesco or da Crema

2018-02-19 Thread Leonard Williams
I’ve just been playing through some recent da Crema recercars (Lutezine Supp 123) and found No. 11 (p 37) remarkably similar to Francesco da Milano's (Ness) No. 84 (Lute News 107 Supp). I believe the only difference is barring and the last couple of measures. Could someone mor

[LUTE] Re: Francesco or da Crema

2018-02-19 Thread Leonard Williams
I've exaggerated: there are a number of differences, but I believe the similarities outweigh them. Perhaps two different recercari based on the same motif, sacred or otherwise? Leonard -Original Message- From: Leonard Williams To: Lute List Sent: Mon, Feb 19,