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2017-11-14 Thread Alain Veylit
I just finished (the first draft of) a transcription of a sonata in the Bologna Dall Casa manuscript which seems to me quite extraordinary. I don't know if it is bad music, but it is different - with three very distinct sections in strikingly different styles. If you are curious, please check

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2017-11-13 Thread Anthony Hart
alks into a bar in Holborne: "Where's the loo?" A lute walks into a bar in Germany: "What's up? Are you short of staff?" Stewart McCoy -Original Message----- From: Ron Andrico Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 2:09 PM To: lutelist Net

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2017-11-13 Thread Sean Smith
re you short of staff?" > > Stewart McCoy > > -Original Message- From: Ron Andrico > Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 2:09 PM > To: lutelist Net > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bad lute music > > A lute walks into a bar: "I'd like to order a small Frei, please.

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2017-11-12 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Am 11.11.2017 um 18:51 schrieb Alain Veylit: Anyone with a good ending for: A lute walks into a bar ...? How about those: A lute walks into a bar: "I'll have a large beer please. No mug, I have a bowl." A lute walks into a bar. The barkeeper: "Why all those frets?" A lute walks into a

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2017-11-12 Thread howard posner
> On Nov 12, 2017, at 5:41 AM, Christopher Wilke > wrote: > > Just curious - How do we know the exact cause of Beethoven's deafness > today? We don't > I assume doctors of the time didn't possess enough knowledge of > the causes of deafness to make a

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2017-11-12 Thread Markus Lutz
In the film they also inform about the most recent diagnosis of Beethoven's illness, that is drawn from the contemporary autopsie of Beethoven's ear (after minute 58, around 62 you find a table with the diagnosis). After Wolfram Klingler: (as already written by A. John Mardinly) an "chronical

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2017-11-12 Thread Lex van Sante
Oops! I didn’t read all previous posts. My bad! > Op 12 nov. 2017, om 15:56 heeft Lex van Sante het > volgende geschreven: > > Thomas Mace was deaf in his later years. He pressed his front teeth against > the edge of the soundboard and thus was able to hear what he was

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2017-11-12 Thread Lex van Sante
Thomas Mace was deaf in his later years. He pressed his front teeth against the edge of the soundboard and thus was able to hear what he was playing. He describes this in his Musicks’ Monument in 1676. > Op 12 nov. 2017, om 15:33 heeft G. C. het volgende > geschreven: > >

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2017-11-12 Thread G. C.
Very interesting discourse about Beethoven's deafness, several more available (in german) on YT. Thanks for the link Markus. Although it doesn't specify the nature of the hearing aid connected to the piano which was used, I assume that all hasn't yet been said in this matter. G.

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2017-11-12 Thread Christopher Wilke
Just curious - How do we know the exact cause of Beethoven's deafness today? I assume doctors of the time didn't possess enough knowledge of the causes of deafness to make a diagnosis. Chris [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Saturday, November 11, 2017, 7:01 PM, John

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2017-11-12 Thread Markus Lutz
I'm not sure that this is a myth. There is a youtube video in German by the medical society of Mainz about Beethoven's deafness and his relation to Johann Nepomuk Mälzel (the inventor of the metronome). Beethoven used his ear trumpets and Mälzel also constructed a mechanism that was set on the

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2017-11-12 Thread G. C.
A myth then apparently. Interesting though, that: The "phenomenon" of bone conduction is generally credited as being discovered in the 1500s (though some say it can be traced back to around 2AD). A physician, mathematician, philosopher and all-around brilliant fella' by the name of

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2017-11-12 Thread wayne lute
have been any use to him. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. > Begin forwarded message: > > From: John Mardinly <john.mardi...@asu.edu> > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bad lute music > Date: November 11, 2017 at 12:17:52 PM EST > To: howard posner <howardpos...@ca.rr.com> > Cc

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2017-11-11 Thread John Mardinly
Beethoven’s deafness was caused by “inner ear” problems, sometimes called labyrinthitis, a form of nerve deafness, not mechanical problems, such as damage to the eardrum or the small bones of the inner ear. As such, it is unlikely that the bone conduction would have been any use to him. A.

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2017-11-11 Thread Alain Veylit
No, it is just an absurd joke that mostly works with children under age 12... But whatever makes a child giggle hysterically is worth remembering. (IMHO) Another example: "What is the difference between a crow?" Answer: "none, both legs are the same". I guess these are equivalent to the

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2017-11-11 Thread John Mardinly
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2017-11-11 Thread G. C.
So, is this just another example of that recent (american?) phenomenon "fake news"? The google string "Beethoven bone conduction" gives an awful lot of hits! And Mace beating him to it is great. :) Doesn't the custom of leaning the lute onto a table also somehow associate to the

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2017-11-10 Thread howard posner
> > See ya, > > jeff > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: howard posner > Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 6:29 PM > To: Lutelist > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bad lute music > > >> On Nov 10, 2017, at 10:50 AM, G. C. <kalei...@gmail.co

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2017-11-10 Thread jeff
at it, so I could be making this up. But I think not… See ya, jeff Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: howard posner Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 6:29 PM To: Lutelist Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bad lute music > On Nov 10, 2017, at 10:50 AM, G. C. <kalei...@gmail.com> wrote: > &

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2017-11-10 Thread howard posner
> On Nov 8, 2017, at 4:54 PM, Alain Veylit wrote: > > PS: bad French joke: Beethoven was so deaf that all his life he thought he > was a painter... Is this a pun in French? To get on or off this list see list information at

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2017-11-10 Thread howard posner
> On Nov 10, 2017, at 10:50 AM, G. C. wrote: > > According to Dan Brown in his newest book, "Origins", Beethoven was the > inventor of "bone conduction technology", who upon going deaf, > discovered that he could fix a metal rod to his piano, and bite down on > it as

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2017-11-10 Thread Christopher Stetson
From a historical perspective even "bad" music is worth preserving and making available, so thanks, Alain, for undertaking this project. I'll read through it as soon as my slipped 2nd course strings are back up to pitch. I wouldn't have taken the trouble without your

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2017-11-10 Thread G. C.
According to Dan Brown in his newest book, "Origins", Beethoven was the inventor of "bone conduction technology", who upon going deaf, discovered that he could fix a metal rod to his piano, and bite down on it as he played, enabling him to hear perfectly, through vibrations in his

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2017-11-08 Thread Braig, Eugene
Perhaps not as profound as a Weiss tombeau, but I simply like the sound of much of Dalla Casa's archlute music, and he saw fit to include several works for mandolino/mandola as well. Worth a listen to judge for one's self: https://www.hidekiyamaya.com/recordings