It's interesting to compare the two and thanks for putting them both against
the music. Personally, I like your playing without the dedillo as the run
becomes a little clearer and fits better with the nature of the rest of the
piece.
I'm not sure of purpose of dedillo in Milan's approach. Is
Excellent! Can you give us any advice on how to do it? I've always
wondered whether it was necessary to support the index finger with the
thumb, for instance, in which case it would be like using a very fat
stiff plectrum, or whether the movement is just of the index finger.
Martin
On
Mastering the dedillo
http://www.ralphmaier.com/index_files/Page318.htm
http://www.ralphmaier.com/index_files/Page318.htm
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Thanks very much for the vids; especially from the two different hand
orientations- but now I hear the same problems with sound that caused me
to abandon further pursuit of the technique, only your greater patience
and stronger commitment have yielded better results; I like what 95%
Hi Martin,
I'm not sure how clearly one can see on the videos, but i think I mainly
just move the finger leaving the last joint fairly loose. In some
situations the thumb can be planted, but sometimes one has to land on
the thumb to come back up, and then it has to be free.
Both thumb out
Thanks for your interest and kind responses.
I'm playing on a viola da mano (60cm) by Richard Fletcher with a capo on
the second fret. (I have a smaller one on order.)
I have a few test videos of dedillo here:
https://youtu.be/Oe0TYyR8TM4
and here from a few months ago in a more thumb out
Very convincing. Just very good, period. Better than I could ever do
dedillo. Can you tell us about your vihuela- or whatever your instrument is?
Dan
On 5/18/2015 2:18 PM, Robert Barto wrote:
[1]https://youtu.be/Cn6fmQXP2Pc
Here is a first attempt at dedillo with one of the Milan
The beginning of this clip focuses on Carlos Paredes' right hand.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gKnO_RwGhss
On Nov 2, 2007, at 11:38 AM, Ed Durbrow wrote:
Yes, I got your reply yesterday. Very interesting. Did you see my
response? It went like this:
Thanks Doc,
Ah ha! So the interesting
a site devoted to Carlos Paredes with other views of his technique:
http://www.cidadevirtual.pt/cdl/carlosparedes.html
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ha,
did you noticed: PoD has a marker on the 7th bar!
i need one too!
:-)
w.
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Datum: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 08:22:46 +0100
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Betreff: [LUTE] Re: dedillo
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Could someone please post the URL so I could watch this? Thank you.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=G23_pcCZkZg
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On Nov 1, 2007, at 7:53 PM, Doc Rossi wrote:
I think I misunderstood your question earlier. They use the flesh
side of the nail for the strong beat - the stroke towards the body.
Thanks Doc,
Ah ha! So the interesting point would be where they change to and
from it, how they negotiate going
Oh thanks Gernot. That one. I thought you all were talking about a
new one.
On Nov 2, 2007, at 4:22 PM, Gernot Hilger wrote:
Zitat von Ed Durbrow [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Could someone please post the URL so I could watch this? Thank you.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=G23_pcCZkZg
Ed Durbrow
Hi Ed,
I think I misunderstood your question earlier. They use the flesh
side of the nail for the strong beat - the stroke towards the body.
Doc
On Oct 31, 2007, at 2:10 PM, Ed Durbrow wrote:
On Oct 31, 2007, at 1:49 PM, Doc Rossi wrote:
I've seen people play dedilho before, but never to
Hi Ed,
I think I misunderstood your question earlier. They use the flesh
side of the nail for the strong beat - the stroke towards the body.
Doc
On Oct 31, 2007, at 2:10 PM, Ed Durbrow wrote:
On Oct 31, 2007, at 1:49 PM, Doc Rossi wrote:
I've seen people play dedilho before, but never to
I recently watched a YouTube clip with PO'D, from some
instructional TV
program, where he played the Poulton #73 (Molinaro-dubious-very-fine)
Fantasia with dedillo in the final show-off. I thought that was
cool, as I
play it differently.
Let me gently suggest that you watch the video
Bob is right, different thing
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From: Robert Clair [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 12:41 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: dedillo
I recently watched a YouTube clip with PO'D, from some
instructional TV
program
The video looks very much like dedillo, but the sound tells us
otherwise. Bass and treble are merely alternating as are the thumb and
index. If it were dedillo we'd notice more than one treble note per
bass note.
Is the piece really attributed to Molinaro?
g
On 01.11.2007, at 12:41,
10:49 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: dedillo
The video looks very much like dedillo, but the sound tells us otherwise.
Bass and treble are merely alternating as are the thumb and index. If it
were dedillo we'd notice more than one treble note per bass note.
Is the piece really attributed
PS. #73 has an identical beginning as 2 of Molinaro's fantasias.
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Subject: [LUTE] Re: dedillo
The video looks very much like dedillo, but the sound
Really? Would you mind to tell us which ones? I've been very curious about
this fantasia (I'm playing it at the moment). I have a recording by
P.Odetteand it sounds a little different from Poulton's edition.
Regards.
2007/11/1, G. Crona [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
PS. #73 has an identical beginning
PS. #73 has an identical beginning as 2 of Molinaro's fantasias.
Neither remarkable nor much of a coincidence.
The first three or four notes are a formula known in Italy as, if I
recall correctly, the canzona francese. Pieces based on it were
common--Giovanni Gabrieli was particularly fond
:13 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: dedillo
Hi Jocelyn,
No the guitarra portuguesa is closer to a cittern in its modern form
-- they still use the term viol=E3o (=vihuela in Port.) for the
Spanish
guitar. Even though the current instrument is of 18th-century British
origin, the techniques for playing
On Oct 31, 2007, at 1:49 PM, Doc Rossi wrote:
I've seen people play dedilho before, but never to such an advanced
degree as in Portugal.
Did they use the flesh side or nail side for the strong beat in
Portugal?
TIA
Ed Durbrow
Saitama, Japan
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only need two fingers, or hoofs ;~)
B.R.
G.
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Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 2:13 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: dedillo
Hi Jocelyn,
No the guitarra portuguesa is closer to a cittern in its modern form
Hi Jocelyn,
No the guitarra portuguesa is closer to a cittern in its modern form
-- they still use the term viol=E3o (=vihuela in Port.) for the Spanish
guitar. Even though the current instrument is of 18th-century British
origin, the techniques for playing it are much older. They still play
I was just in Portugal for a PG conference. According to Pedro
Caldeira Cabral, the PG is not a descendent of the EG but rather a
parallel development of their native cittern. His large and
wonderfully illustrated book includes his argument, and an article
may be translated into English
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