Disaster (was Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks)

2019-02-24 Thread Andrew Greig via luv-main
Hi All I modified the /etc/fstab file to remove the reference to the /dev/sdc2 I used gparted live to delete the /dev/sdc2 partition I saved and quit and rebooted the machine, it stopped in an emergency condition Used CTRL + D to move forward, just came back to the same menu I removed the

Re: shrinking btrfs (was Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks)

2019-02-23 Thread Andrew Greig via luv-main
Hi, I have used gparted to clear the partition sdc2 in preparation for the addition to the btrfs RAID type set up. It does not have a label such as sdc2 and is reported by gparted as "unallocated" Is that the correct description for the purpose? as my machine no longer boots. It enters

Re: shrinking btrfs (was Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks)

2019-02-23 Thread Andrew Greig via luv-main
That was a great help, thanks for directing me there. On 24/2/19 4:08 pm, Craig Sanders via luv-main wrote: i don't know which message you're referring to. i already re-sent one to you, but it seems that wasn't the right one. you can find all messages in this thread in the LUV archives at:

Re: shrinking btrfs (was Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks)

2019-02-23 Thread Craig Sanders via luv-main
On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 03:15:19PM +1100, Andrew Greig wrote: > This should be my last message on this issue (I sincerely hope so as I have > probably redefined the meaning of "needy") > > I lost the message related to the setting up of one btrfs drive and then > using the force (-f) feature to

Re: shrinking btrfs (was Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks)

2019-02-23 Thread Andrew Greig via luv-main
Hi Craig, This should be my last message on this issue (I sincerely hope so as I have probably redefined the meaning of "needy") I lost the message related to the setting up of one btrfs drive and then using the force (-f) feature to get it to add the device to the array run sudo umount

shrinking btrfs (was Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks)

2019-02-23 Thread Craig Sanders via luv-main
[ you accidentally sent this Q as private mail. replying back to the luv-main list ] On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 08:33:25AM +1100, pushin.linux wrote: > Hi Craig,I was wondering if btrfs allows "shrinking" a patition to create > free space, and if swap at the end of an SSD was better than at the

Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks

2019-02-23 Thread Craig Sanders via luv-main
On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 06:32:43PM +1100, Andrew Greig wrote: > > 1. unmount both of them > > $sudo umount /dev/sdb1 && umount /dev/sdc1 ? or "sudo umount /data0 /data1" as long as no process has any file open under those directories (and that includes having a shell with it's current working

Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks

2019-02-23 Thread Andrew Greig via luv-main
Very happy vegemite atm, I disconnected my optical drive so I could hook up my old SATA HDD. Well, it was found by the system and automounted. I was getting ready for a mount operation. No Need. I am loading my SSD at present and then I will put a bit of data in the /Data directory to see how

Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks

2019-02-22 Thread Andrew Greig via luv-main
On 23/2/19 5:16 pm, Craig Sanders via luv-main wrote: On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 03:42:57PM +1100, Andrew Greig wrote: Now I need to plug in my old SATA drive and copy my data to one of my data drives. Small thing, when I was setting the partitions the system did not like /data on two

Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks

2019-02-22 Thread Craig Sanders via luv-main
On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 04:26:25PM +1100, Andrew Greig wrote: > Referring to an earlier message about my data drives, do I need to CHOWN > those drives to andrew:andrew and then set the permissions to rwx? I think i said perms should be 664. that was wrong. the execute bit is needed to access a

Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks

2019-02-22 Thread Craig Sanders via luv-main
On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 03:42:57PM +1100, Andrew Greig wrote: > Now I need to plug in my old SATA drive and copy my data to one of my data > drives. > > Small thing, when I was setting the partitions the system did not like /data > on two separate drives so for the moment one is /data0 and the

Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks

2019-02-22 Thread Andrew Greig via luv-main
Hi Craig, Referring to an earlier message about my data drives, do I need to CHOWN those drives to andrew:andrew and then set the permissions to rwx? I think you mentioned a symlink, would that be necessary if I have done the CHOWN? How do I set up the RAID1 on the Data0 and Data1

Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks

2019-02-22 Thread Andrew Greig via luv-main
Well, The good new is that I found a command on YouTube $ sudo tasksel ran that with several choices I am now sending this email from my GUI based desktop. copied the .Thunderbird hidden folder to my /home/andrew and after 4.6Gb had transferred I started Thunderbird and all of my email

Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks

2019-02-22 Thread Craig Sanders via luv-main
On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 02:30:46PM +1100, Andrew Greig wrote: > Unfortunately I am stuck in tty1, I thought that the GUI was on tty7, but I > have forgotten how to get there. I thought it used to be CTRL ALT F7 If you have a display manager (xdm, gdm, kdm, lightdm, etc) installed, it will start

Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks

2019-02-22 Thread Andrew Greig via luv-main
Hi Craig, Thanks for the advice, I cleared the partition tables and eventually worked out how to create new partitions and set the filesystems up. For me the partitioning tool in Ubuntu is a quantum leap behind the partition manager in Mandrake/Mandriva, it is a pity that that graphical

Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks

2019-02-22 Thread Craig Sanders via luv-main
On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 05:33:53PM +1100, Andrew Greig wrote: > I have purchased a new 1Tb SSD and I have two unused SATA 2Tb drives, and > currently 8Gb RAM (max capacity 32Gb DDR3 1866) I will settle for 24Gb soon. 24GB is nice. With that and the SSD, you should see an enormous boost in

Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks

2019-02-22 Thread Craig Sanders via luv-main
On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 08:20:48PM +1100, Andrew Greig wrote: > The 1Tb is an SSD for speed and I have another 2 x 2Tb drives for my data. > After 3 years of photography and 13,000 images in raw, proofs and full size > jpgs I have around 500Gb of data. This should meet my needs for 2 years at >

Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks

2019-02-22 Thread Andrew Greig via luv-main
Hi Russell, The 1Tb is an SSD for speed and I have another 2 x 2Tb drives for my data. After 3 years of photography and 13,000 images in raw, proofs and full size jpgs I have around 500Gb of data. This should meet my needs for 2 years at least at which time I will build a bigger machine. I

Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks

2019-02-22 Thread Russell Coker via luv-main
If you have a RAID-1 of 2TB disks a single 1TB disk doesn't provide much value. I suggest using the port for a second SSD instead and have a RAID-1 on SSD for root and /home and 2*2TB RAID-1 for everything else. If a 2TB RAID-1 isn't enough for your big files then consider getting a couple of

Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks

2019-02-21 Thread Andrew Voumard via luv-main
> Question - Should I choose Ubuntu 18.04 LTS or install 18.10 which will > need an upgrade at the end of July? > > Question: To set up my SSD for root and the other two drives as RAID 1 > mounted as /home, is it simply a matter of choosing btrfs? I haven't > built a Ubuntu Server before. Hi

Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks

2019-02-21 Thread Mark Trickett via luv-main
Hello Andrew, On 2/22/19, Andrew Greig via luv-main wrote: > Hi All, > > I have purchased a new 1Tb SSD and I have two unused SATA 2Tb drives, > and currently 8Gb RAM (max capacity 32Gb DDR3 1866) I will settle for > 24Gb soon. > > I have two optical drives, I will settle for one. > > MB =

Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks

2019-02-21 Thread Andrew Greig via luv-main
Hi All, I have purchased a new 1Tb SSD and I have two unused SATA 2Tb drives, and currently 8Gb RAM (max capacity 32Gb DDR3 1866) I will settle for 24Gb soon. I have two optical drives, I will settle for one. MB = ASRock 890 GM Pro3 5 sata slots Currently the optical drive is in slot one

Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks

2019-02-21 Thread Andrew Greig via luv-main
Hi Craig, I am unsure how much to clip as your response is comprehensive. But to start /dev/sda1 is my 1 TB drive and it is showing as having boot and lvm, do not know how root and swap were assigned to sdb1 The extra drives are 2 TB drives The problem with /dev/sdc1 not being part of the

RAM & LUV's HW Library (was Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks)

2019-02-21 Thread Craig Sanders via luv-main
On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 10:22:38AM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > In regard to the hardware advice. The LUV hardware library often has DDR3 > RAM for free, but 4G modules don't hang around long. If anyone is upgrading > from a DDR3 system to DDR4 please donate your old RAM as lots of people have >

Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks

2019-02-21 Thread Craig Sanders via luv-main
On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 11:14:13PM +1100, Andrew Greig wrote: > Looking at the disks in gparted I have: > > /dev/sda1 > File system lvn2 pv > Label > UUID sI0LJX-JSme-W2Yt-rFiZ-bQcV-lwFN-tSetH5 > Volume Group ubuntu-vg > Members /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1 > Partition /dev/sda1 > Name > Flags boot/lvm >

Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks

2019-02-21 Thread Russell Coker via luv-main
In regard to the hardware advice. The LUV hardware library often has DDR3 RAM for free, but 4G modules don't hang around long. If anyone is upgrading from a DDR3 system to DDR4 please donate your old RAM as lots of people have a use for this. Also we need more SATA disks, if anyone has disks

Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks

2019-02-21 Thread Andrew Greig via luv-main
Looking at the disks in gparted I have: /dev/sda1 File system lvn2 pv Label UUID sI0LJX-JSme-W2Yt-rFiZ-bQcV-lwFN-tSetH5 Volume Group ubuntu-vg Members /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1 Partition /dev/sda1 Name Flags boot/lvm /dev/sdb1 File system lvm2 pv Label UUID 9HV3H6-JIYu-IdaS-2CGr-lkZQ-9xcB-RVu9Ks

Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks

2019-02-21 Thread Andrew Greig via luv-main
Hi Craig, I tried to follow the UUID process and I think it worked OK. andrew@andrew-desktop:~$ blkid /dev/sdb1: UUID= andrew@andrew-desktop:~$ blkid /dev/sda1: UUID="sI0LJX-JSme-W2Yt-rFiZ-bQcV-lwFN-tSetH5" TYPE="LVM2_member" PARTUUID="92e664e1-01" /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root:

Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks

2019-02-20 Thread Craig Sanders via luv-main
On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 10:25:13PM +1100, Andrew Greig wrote: > I apologise for my carelessness. In the days when I needed frequent help > (2000 - 2007) bottom posting was preferred, and so I defaulted to that > position. It was not laziness, just a lack of awareness that I included too > much of

Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks

2019-02-20 Thread Andrew Greig via luv-main
Thanks Craig, It is late so I will digest all of this tomorrow. Andrew ___ luv-main mailing list luv-main@luv.asn.au https://lists.luv.asn.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luv-main

Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks

2019-02-20 Thread Craig Sanders via luv-main
On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 09:33:21PM +1100, Andrew Greig wrote: > I have peace of mind about the ECC or not issue. I have a machine which > boots slowly compared with even ten years ago. One needs to boot it up and > then log in, and go and make a cup of coffee have a chat with a friend over > the

Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks

2019-02-20 Thread Andrew Greig via luv-main
Hi Craig, I apologise for my carelessness. In the days when I needed frequent help (2000 - 2007) bottom posting was preferred, and so I defaulted to that position. It was not laziness, just a lack of awareness that I included too much of the thread. Most of my

Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks

2019-02-20 Thread Craig Sanders via luv-main
Firstly, can you please configure your thunderbird mail client to NOT send HTML mail? Or at least send both HTML and plain text? HTML mail really screws up the quoting, making it very hard to tell what's quoted and what's new. Also, don't bottom-post. Bottom posting is evil. And please trim

Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks

2019-02-20 Thread Andrew Greig via luv-main
On 20/2/19 9:07 pm, Craig Sanders via luv-main wrote: On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 08:18:59PM +1100, Morrie Wyatt via luv-main wrote: The ECC warnings just mean that either your motherboard doesn't support ECC error correcting RAM, or that you

Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks

2019-02-20 Thread Craig Sanders via luv-main
On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 08:18:59PM +1100, Morrie Wyatt via luv-main wrote: > The ECC warnings just mean that either your motherboard doesn't support ECC > error correcting RAM, or that you don't have ECC RAM installed. AFAIK, you see it when the motherboard supports ECC RAM but you only have

Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks

2019-02-20 Thread Morrie Wyatt via luv-main
On 20/02/2019 4:00 PM, Andrew Greig via luv-main wrote: On 16/2/19 2:44 pm, Craig Sanders via luv-main wrote: On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 01:02:44PM +1100, Andrew Greig wrote: I have had some disks "ready to go" for a couple of months, meaning all that was required was to plug the SATA cables

Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks

2019-02-19 Thread Andrew Greig via luv-main
On 16/2/19 2:44 pm, Craig Sanders via luv-main wrote: On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 01:02:44PM +1100, Andrew Greig wrote: I have had some disks "ready to go" for a couple of months, meaning all that was required was to plug the SATA cables into the MB. I

Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks

2019-02-19 Thread Andrew Greig via luv-main
On 16/2/19 4:08 pm, Craig Sanders via luv-main wrote: On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 03:00:08PM +1100, Morrie Wyatt wrote: The one extra step you might need to add to the end of Craig's list would be to force a rebuild of your bootloader

Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks

2019-02-19 Thread Andrew Greig via luv-main
On 16/2/19 1:09 pm, Ben Nisenbaum via luv-main wrote: Hello Andrew, Perhaps configure them in /etc/fstab? ben Hi Ben, I am not sure that the /etc/fstab file is even being addressed. Normally when I boot, an early event is the

Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks

2019-02-16 Thread Andrew Greig via luv-main
On 16/2/19 4:08 pm, Craig Sanders via luv-main wrote: On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 03:00:08PM +1100, Morrie Wyatt wrote: The one extra step you might need to add to the end of Craig's list would be to force a rebuild of your bootloader

Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks

2019-02-16 Thread Andrew Greig via luv-main
On 16/2/19 4:08 pm, Craig Sanders via luv-main wrote: On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 03:00:08PM +1100, Morrie Wyatt wrote: The one extra step you might need to add to the end of Craig's list would be to force a rebuild of your bootloader

Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks

2019-02-16 Thread Andrew Greig via luv-main
On 16/2/19 2:44 pm, Craig Sanders via luv-main wrote: On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 01:02:44PM +1100, Andrew Greig wrote: I have had some disks "ready to go" for a couple of months, meaning all that was required was to plug the SATA cables into

Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks

2019-02-15 Thread Craig Sanders via luv-main
On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 03:00:08PM +1100, Morrie Wyatt wrote: > The one extra step you might need to add to the end of Craig's list would be > to force a rebuild of your bootloader configuration (probably Grub) so that > the fstab UUID / LABEL changes get propagated into grub's config files. It

Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks

2019-02-15 Thread Morrie Wyatt via luv-main
Hi Andrew. Craig beat me to it, and in far better detail than I was typing. It's also going to be simpler to make the changes to UUID or LABEL format without the two additional drives unplugged, as it will give you your full-fat operating system and its tools to make the changes. The one extra

Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks

2019-02-15 Thread Craig Sanders via luv-main
On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 01:02:44PM +1100, Andrew Greig wrote: > I  shut it down and removed the 2 SATA cables from the MB and booted up - > successfully. I didn't notice this before. You can edit /etc/fstab to change to UUIDs or LABELs at this point. Then shutdown, add the new drives, and turn

Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks

2019-02-15 Thread Craig Sanders via luv-main
On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 01:02:44PM +1100, Andrew Greig wrote: > I have had some disks "ready to go" for a couple of months, meaning all that > was required was to plug the SATA cables into the MB. I plugged them in > today and booted the machine, except that it did not boot up. Ubuntu 18.04, > it

Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks

2019-02-15 Thread Nic Baxter via luv-main
On 16/2/19 1:02 pm, Andrew Greig via luv-main wrote: Hi All, I have had some disks "ready to go" for a couple of months, meaning all that was required was to plug the SATA cables into the MB. I plugged them in today and booted the machine, except that it did not boot up. Ubuntu 18.04, it

Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks

2019-02-15 Thread Andrew Greig via luv-main
On 16/2/19 1:09 pm, Ben Nisenbaum via luv-main wrote: Hello Andrew, Perhaps configure them in /etc/fstab? ben Hi Ben, I am not sure that the /etc/fstab file is even being addressed. Normally when I boot, an early event is the

Re: Boot problems after adding 2 new disks

2019-02-15 Thread Ben Nisenbaum via luv-main
Hello Andrew, Perhaps configure them in /etc/fstab? ben -- b...@fastmail.fm On Sat, Feb 16, 2019, at 1:02 PM, Andrew Greig via luv-main wrote: > Hi All, > > > I have had some disks "ready to go" for a couple of months, meaning all > that was required was to plug the SATA cables into

Boot problems after adding 2 new disks

2019-02-15 Thread Andrew Greig via luv-main
Hi All, I have had some disks "ready to go" for a couple of months, meaning all that was required was to plug the SATA cables into the MB. I plugged them in today and booted the machine, except that it did not boot up. Ubuntu 18.04, it stopped at the Ubuntu