Re: [LyX/master] Fix Ticket #9741 misleading name for font-encoding setting "default".

On 2016-10-23, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > [-- Type: text/plain, Encoding: quoted-printable --] > Am Sonntag, den 23.10.2016, 08:45 +0200 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller: >> In the meantime, could you please revert your original change? I >> think >> it is clear that we will change the strings, but

Re: [LyX/master] Fix Ticket #9741 misleading name for font-encoding setting "default".

Am Sonntag, den 23.10.2016, 08:45 +0200 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller: > In the meantime, could you please revert your original change? I > think > it is clear that we will change the strings, but differently. Since you didn't do it, I did. Jürgen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally

Re: [LyX/master] Fix Ticket #9741 misleading name for font-encoding setting "default".

On 2016-10-22, Guenter Milde wrote: > On 2016-10-22, Enrico Forestieri wrote: >> On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 05:16:49PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >>> How bad can it become for someone who has changed the [lyrc.fontenc] >>> setting? ... >> However, more damage can result if one selected T2A

Re: [LyX/master] Fix Ticket #9741 misleading name for font-encoding setting "default".

Am Samstag, den 22.10.2016, 18:02 + schrieb Guenter Milde: > > The first option (which should be the default, IMHO) uses whatever > font > > encoding is considered appropriate for the given language(s) and > > backend. We determine that via the fontenc option in languages. >    >   Please also

Re: [LyX/master] Fix Ticket #9741 misleading name for font-encoding setting "default".

On 2016-10-22, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > [-- Type: text/plain, Encoding: quoted-printable --] > Am Samstag, den 22.10.2016, 16:37 +0200 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: >> Le 22/10/2016 à 13:40, Enrico Forestieri a écrit : >> > Moreover, we add a new entry "LyX Default", which corresponds >> > to

Re: [LyX/master] Fix Ticket #9741 misleading name for font-encoding setting "default".

On 2016-10-22, Enrico Forestieri wrote: > On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 05:05:04PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> Le 22/10/2016 à 16:58, Enrico Forestieri a écrit : >> > > I still wonder why we should keep this preference. >> > >> > Good observation. I think for backward compatibility.

Re: [LyX/master] Fix Ticket #9741 misleading name for font-encoding setting "default".

On 2016-10-22, Enrico Forestieri wrote: > On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 05:16:49PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> Le 22/10/2016 à 17:15, Enrico Forestieri a écrit : >> > If you ask me, I think that 99.99% of users didn't change that default. >> > If someone was needing a different encoding, it is

Re: [LyX/master] Fix Ticket #9741 misleading name for font-encoding setting "default".

Am Samstag, den 22.10.2016, 18:41 +0200 schrieb Enrico Forestieri: > The main differences between OT1 and T1 are explained here: > http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/664/why-should-i-use-usepackag > et1fontenc > > If one changed it to OT1, now he would find that bitmapped fonts are > being

Re: [LyX/master] Fix Ticket #9741 misleading name for font-encoding setting "default".

On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 05:16:49PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Le 22/10/2016 à 17:15, Enrico Forestieri a écrit : > > If you ask me, I think that 99.99% of users didn't change that default. > > If someone was needing a different encoding, it is much more likely that > > he stumbled upon

Re: [LyX/master] Fix Ticket #9741 misleading name for font-encoding setting "default".

Le 22/10/2016 à 17:16, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes a écrit : Le 22/10/2016 à 17:15, Enrico Forestieri a écrit : If you ask me, I think that 99.99% of users didn't change that default. If someone was needing a different encoding, it is much more likely that he stumbled upon the custom setting in the

Re: [LyX/master] Fix Ticket #9741 misleading name for font-encoding setting "default".

Le 22/10/2016 à 17:15, Enrico Forestieri a écrit : If you ask me, I think that 99.99% of users didn't change that default. If someone was needing a different encoding, it is much more likely that he stumbled upon the custom setting in the document settings dialog rather than that setting in the

Re: [LyX/master] Fix Ticket #9741 misleading name for font-encoding setting "default".

On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 05:05:04PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Le 22/10/2016 à 16:58, Enrico Forestieri a écrit : > > > I still wonder why we should keep this preference. > > > > Good observation. I think for backward compatibility. Otherwise we > > don't know what was the old default.

Re: [LyX/master] Fix Ticket #9741 misleading name for font-encoding setting "default".

Le 22/10/2016 à 16:58, Enrico Forestieri a écrit : I still wonder why we should keep this preference. Good observation. I think for backward compatibility. Otherwise we don't know what was the old default. Suppose that a user unchecked that preference, meaning that no fontenc is loaded. If we

Re: [LyX/master] Fix Ticket #9741 misleading name for font-encoding setting "default".

Am Samstag, den 22.10.2016, 16:37 +0200 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > Le 22/10/2016 à 13:40, Enrico Forestieri a écrit : > > Moreover, we add a new entry "LyX Default", which corresponds > > to what is now the default (i.e, load fontenc with the value > > specified > > in

Re: [LyX/master] Fix Ticket #9741 misleading name for font-encoding setting "default".

On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 04:37:04PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Le 22/10/2016 à 13:40, Enrico Forestieri a écrit : > > Moreover, we add a new entry "LyX Default", which corresponds > > to what is now the default (i.e, load fontenc with the value specified > > in

Re: [LyX/master] Fix Ticket #9741 misleading name for font-encoding setting "default".

Le 22/10/2016 à 13:40, Enrico Forestieri a écrit : Moreover, we add a new entry "LyX Default", which corresponds to what is now the default (i.e, load fontenc with the value specified in Tools->Preferences->Output->LaTeX). I still wonder why we should keep this preference. JMarc

Re: [LyX/master] Fix Ticket #9741 misleading name for font-encoding setting "default".

On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 11:16:30PM +, Guenter Milde wrote: > On 2016-10-21, Enrico Forestieri wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 07:05:29PM +, Guenter Milde wrote: > >> On 2016-10-21, Enrico Forestieri wrote: > > >> > I think that the old "None (no fontenc)" was more than adequate. > >>

Re: [LyX/master] Fix Ticket #9741 misleading name for font-encoding setting "default".

On 2016-10-21, Enrico Forestieri wrote: > On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 07:05:29PM +, Guenter Milde wrote: >> On 2016-10-21, Enrico Forestieri wrote: >> > I think that the old "None (no fontenc)" was more than adequate. >> > This tells that *LyX* is not going to select any encoding. >> However, it

Re: [LyX/master] Fix Ticket #9741 misleading name for font-encoding setting "default".

On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 07:05:29PM +, Guenter Milde wrote: > On 2016-10-21, Enrico Forestieri wrote: > > > I think that the old "None (no fontenc)" was more than adequate. > > This tells that *LyX* is not going to select any encoding. > > However, it was inconsistent. The same fibt dialog

Re: [LyX/master] Fix Ticket #9741 misleading name for font-encoding setting "default".

On 2016-10-21, Enrico Forestieri wrote: > On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 12:05:00PM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: >> 2016-10-21 11:43 GMT+02:00 Guenter Milde : >> I'd prefer something such as "Class Defaults" > I think that the old "None (no fontenc)" was more than adequate. >

Re: [LyX/master] Fix Ticket #9741 misleading name for font-encoding setting "default".

On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 12:05:00PM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > 2016-10-21 11:43 GMT+02:00 Guenter Milde : > > > Would it help to remove just the "OT1" leaving "TeX default, no fontenc"? > > * texperts know the TeX default is OT1 > > * texpert know the default can be

Re: [LyX/master] Fix Ticket #9741 misleading name for font-encoding setting "default".

2016-10-21 11:43 GMT+02:00 Guenter Milde : > Would it help to remove just the "OT1" leaving "TeX default, no fontenc"? > * texperts know the TeX default is OT1 > * texpert know the default can be changed and fontenc (as any package) can > be loaded by a package or class > *

Re: [LyX/master] Fix Ticket #9741 misleading name for font-encoding setting "default".

Dear Jürgen, dear LyX developers, On 2016-10-21, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > [-- Type: text/plain, Encoding: quoted-printable --] > Am Freitag, den 21.10.2016, 09:12 +0200 schrieb Günter Milde: >> +   fontModule->fontencCO->addItem(qt_("TeX default (OT1, no >> fontenc)"),

Re: [LyX/master] Fix Ticket #9741 misleading name for font-encoding setting "default".

Am Freitag, den 21.10.2016, 09:12 +0200 schrieb Günter Milde: > +   fontModule->fontencCO->addItem(qt_("TeX default (OT1, no > fontenc)"), QString("default")); That's not necessarily true. It just means "don't load fontenc explicitly". The class (or a package) might load fontenc with