Re: LyX XMPP-Enhanced Chat

2013-11-04 Thread Nico Williams
Hi, this is pretty awesome indeed! Would it be possible to do somethin OTR-like (in the sense of hiding extra data) for exchanging cursor movement operations / cursor location, and changes (typing, ...)? That would make it possible to collaboratively edit LyX docs.

Re: LyX XMPP-Enhanced Chat

2013-11-04 Thread Nico Williams
Hi, this is pretty awesome indeed! Would it be possible to do somethin OTR-like (in the sense of hiding extra data) for exchanging cursor movement operations / cursor location, and changes (typing, ...)? That would make it possible to collaboratively edit LyX docs.

Re: LyX XMPP-Enhanced Chat

2013-11-04 Thread Nico Williams
Hi, this is pretty awesome indeed! Would it be possible to do somethin OTR-like (in the sense of hiding extra data) for exchanging cursor movement operations / cursor location, and changes (typing, ...)? That would make it possible to collaboratively edit LyX docs.

Re: HTML2LyX???

2013-07-31 Thread Nico Williams
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: Oh, I should have made it clear that style preservation would be my top priority. But you remind me of something: Assuming one writes completely styles-based HTML, the conversion to either LyX or LaTeX would be

Re: HTML2LyX???

2013-07-31 Thread Nico Williams
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: Oh, I should have made it clear that style preservation would be my top priority. But you remind me of something: Assuming one writes completely styles-based HTML, the conversion to either LyX or LaTeX would be

Re: HTML2LyX???

2013-07-31 Thread Nico Williams
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > Oh, I should have made it clear that style preservation would be my top > priority. But you remind me of something: Assuming one writes > completely styles-based HTML, the conversion to either LyX or LaTeX > would be

Re: LyXHTML, design intent?

2013-07-09 Thread Nico Williams
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 8:52 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: [...] Let me do a broken disk impression... I've used XHTML + XSLT successfully to convert to other XML schemas. XHTML doesn't quite preserve enough metadata for me though, so I've also written a LyX - XML converter[0]

Re: LyXHTML, design intent?

2013-07-09 Thread Nico Williams
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 8:52 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: [...] Let me do a broken disk impression... I've used XHTML + XSLT successfully to convert to other XML schemas. XHTML doesn't quite preserve enough metadata for me though, so I've also written a LyX - XML converter[0]

Re: LyXHTML, design intent?

2013-07-09 Thread Nico Williams
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 8:52 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > [...] Let me do a broken disk impression... I've used XHTML + XSLT successfully to convert to other XML schemas. XHTML doesn't quite preserve enough metadata for me though, so I've also written a LyX -> XML

Re: Converting lyx to odt

2013-05-02 Thread Nico Williams
A quick search for odt xslt finds some possibly useful tools and other things: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13031514/html-to-odt-xslt http://opendocumentfellowship.com/projects/odftools http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/ODF_Toolkit/Efforts/ODTransform http://open.comsultia.com/docbook2odf/

Re: Converting lyx to odt

2013-05-02 Thread Nico Williams
A quick search for odt xslt finds some possibly useful tools and other things: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13031514/html-to-odt-xslt http://opendocumentfellowship.com/projects/odftools http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/ODF_Toolkit/Efforts/ODTransform http://open.comsultia.com/docbook2odf/

Re: Converting lyx to odt

2013-05-02 Thread Nico Williams
A quick search for "odt xslt" finds some possibly useful tools and other things: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13031514/html-to-odt-xslt http://opendocumentfellowship.com/projects/odftools http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/ODF_Toolkit/Efforts/ODTransform http://open.comsultia.com/docbook2odf/

Re: Converting lyx to odt

2013-05-01 Thread Nico Williams
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 7:21 AM, ehud.kaplan ehud.kap...@gmail.com wrote: I had tried to convert from a Lyx document (a Ph.D. thesis, ~140 pages) to LibreOffice (File/Export/HTML). Much of it worked, but there were many problems: Equation numbers moved from right to left Figures were totally

Re: Converting lyx to odt

2013-05-01 Thread Nico Williams
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 7:21 AM, ehud.kaplan ehud.kap...@gmail.com wrote: I had tried to convert from a Lyx document (a Ph.D. thesis, ~140 pages) to LibreOffice (File/Export/HTML). Much of it worked, but there were many problems: Equation numbers moved from right to left Figures were totally

Re: Converting lyx to odt

2013-05-01 Thread Nico Williams
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 7:21 AM, ehud.kaplan wrote: > I had tried to convert from a Lyx document (a Ph.D. thesis, ~140 pages) to > LibreOffice (File/Export/HTML). Much of it worked, but there were many > problems: > > Equation numbers moved from right to left > Figures were

Re: feature request: ribbon menus

2013-04-09 Thread Nico Williams
Since we're piling on... I don't mind the sort of ribbon menu as they've evolved to be at MSFT, but I do prefer pull-down menus with *text* instead of icons. I'm a textual user, I prefer everything as textual as possible. I'd even like a search feature for menus/functions, and in general I'd

Re: feature request: ribbon menus

2013-04-09 Thread Nico Williams
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Nico Williams n...@cryptonector.com wrote: textual user, I prefer everything as textual as possible. I'd even like a search feature for menus/functions, and in general I'd like That's

Re: feature request: ribbon menus

2013-04-09 Thread Nico Williams
Since we're piling on... I don't mind the sort of ribbon menu as they've evolved to be at MSFT, but I do prefer pull-down menus with *text* instead of icons. I'm a textual user, I prefer everything as textual as possible. I'd even like a search feature for menus/functions, and in general I'd

Re: feature request: ribbon menus

2013-04-09 Thread Nico Williams
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Nico Williams n...@cryptonector.com wrote: textual user, I prefer everything as textual as possible. I'd even like a search feature for menus/functions, and in general I'd like That's

Re: feature request: ribbon menus

2013-04-09 Thread Nico Williams
Since we're piling on... I don't mind the sort of ribbon menu as they've evolved to be at MSFT, but I do prefer pull-down menus with *text* instead of icons. I'm a textual user, I prefer everything as textual as possible. I'd even like a search feature for menus/functions, and in general I'd

Re: feature request: ribbon menus

2013-04-09 Thread Nico Williams
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Liviu Andronic <landronim...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Nico Williams <n...@cryptonector.com> wrote: >> textual user, I prefer everything as textual as possible. I'd even >> like a search feature for menus/functio

Re: Share LaTeX

2013-02-26 Thread Nico Williams
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 2:14 AM, Rainer M Krug r.m.k...@gmail.com wrote: On 26/02/13 03:08, Nico Williams wrote: It'd be nice to have a LyX diff/merge feature. (We've had a thread about this.) Yes - and I think it would be *really* useful. Maybe a Google Sumer Of Code project, or would

Re: Share LaTeX

2013-02-26 Thread Nico Williams
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 2:14 AM, Rainer M Krug r.m.k...@gmail.com wrote: On 26/02/13 03:08, Nico Williams wrote: It'd be nice to have a LyX diff/merge feature. (We've had a thread about this.) Yes - and I think it would be *really* useful. Maybe a Google Sumer Of Code project, or would

Re: Share LaTeX

2013-02-26 Thread Nico Williams
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 2:14 AM, Rainer M Krug <r.m.k...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 26/02/13 03:08, Nico Williams wrote: >> It'd be nice to have a LyX diff/merge feature. (We've had a thread about >> this.) > > Yes - and I think it would be *really* useful. > > May

Re: Share LaTeX

2013-02-25 Thread Nico Williams
Mind you, merging LyX contents via a VCS is not easy... What I've been doing so far with my colleagues is to pass around a your turn e-mail, then we each make our edits in turn with change tracking, and one of us (or the next one to get a turn) merges edits. It'd be nice to have a LyX diff/merge

Re: Share LaTeX

2013-02-25 Thread Nico Williams
Mind you, merging LyX contents via a VCS is not easy... What I've been doing so far with my colleagues is to pass around a your turn e-mail, then we each make our edits in turn with change tracking, and one of us (or the next one to get a turn) merges edits. It'd be nice to have a LyX diff/merge

Re: Share LaTeX

2013-02-25 Thread Nico Williams
Mind you, merging LyX contents via a VCS is not easy... What I've been doing so far with my colleagues is to pass around a "your turn" e-mail, then we each make our edits in turn with change tracking, and one of us (or the next one to get a turn) merges edits. It'd be nice to have a LyX

Re: Word won't open simplest LyXHTML file

2013-01-23 Thread Nico Williams
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 9:15 AM, Guenter Milde mi...@users.sf.net wrote: On 2013-01-22, Nico Williams wrote: There was a thread about this a while back and the conclusion was that I'm on my own with this, that for now my lyx2xml is not to be part of LyX. Partly there's a desire to consider

Re: LyX2YAML: was Re: Word won't open simplest LyXHTML file

2013-01-23 Thread Nico Williams
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 15:15:15 + (UTC), Guenter Milde said: Please don't be discouraged to continue the work on and publication of the lyx2xml script. I think it is a useful addition to LyX. I have a question for

Re: LyX2YAML: was Re: Word won't open simplest LyXHTML file

2013-01-23 Thread Nico Williams
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 14:20:57 -0600, Nico Williams said: Well, there's http://yaxml.rubyforge.org/ , which is a tool that converts between (in both directions) YAXML and YAML. Pair this with my lyx2xml script and you

Re: Word won't open simplest LyXHTML file

2013-01-23 Thread Nico Williams
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 9:15 AM, Guenter Milde mi...@users.sf.net wrote: On 2013-01-22, Nico Williams wrote: There was a thread about this a while back and the conclusion was that I'm on my own with this, that for now my lyx2xml is not to be part of LyX. Partly there's a desire to consider

Re: LyX2YAML: was Re: Word won't open simplest LyXHTML file

2013-01-23 Thread Nico Williams
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 15:15:15 + (UTC), Guenter Milde said: Please don't be discouraged to continue the work on and publication of the lyx2xml script. I think it is a useful addition to LyX. I have a question for

Re: LyX2YAML: was Re: Word won't open simplest LyXHTML file

2013-01-23 Thread Nico Williams
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 14:20:57 -0600, Nico Williams said: Well, there's http://yaxml.rubyforge.org/ , which is a tool that converts between (in both directions) YAXML and YAML. Pair this with my lyx2xml script and you

Re: Word won't open simplest LyXHTML file

2013-01-23 Thread Nico Williams
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 9:15 AM, Guenter Milde <mi...@users.sf.net> wrote: > On 2013-01-22, Nico Williams wrote: >> There was a thread about this a while back and the conclusion was that >> I'm on my own with this, that for now my lyx2xml is not to be part of >> Ly

Re: LyX2YAML: was Re: Word won't open simplest LyXHTML file

2013-01-23 Thread Nico Williams
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 15:15:15 + (UTC), Guenter Milde said: >> Please don't be discouraged to continue the work on and publication of >> the lyx2xml script. I think it is a useful addition to LyX. > > I have a

Re: LyX2YAML: was Re: Word won't open simplest LyXHTML file

2013-01-23 Thread Nico Williams
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Steve Litt <sl...@troubleshooters.com> wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 14:20:57 -0600, Nico Williams said: > >> Well, there's http://yaxml.rubyforge.org/ , which is a tool that >> converts between (in both directions) YAXML and YAML. Pair

Re: Word won't open simplest LyXHTML file

2013-01-22 Thread Nico Williams
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote: On 01/22/2013 02:38 AM, Nico Williams wrote: Hmm, the thought occurs that my lyx2xml script wouldn't be broken by any changes to.lyx, not if it was always chained with lyx2lyx so that it's input were always in a version

Re: Word won't open simplest LyXHTML file

2013-01-22 Thread Nico Williams
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote: On 01/22/2013 02:38 AM, Nico Williams wrote: Hmm, the thought occurs that my lyx2xml script wouldn't be broken by any changes to.lyx, not if it was always chained with lyx2lyx so that it's input were always in a version

Re: Word won't open simplest LyXHTML file

2013-01-22 Thread Nico Williams
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Richard Heck <rgh...@lyx.org> wrote: > On 01/22/2013 02:38 AM, Nico Williams wrote: >> Hmm, the thought occurs that my lyx2xml script wouldn't be broken by any >> changes to.lyx, not if it was always chained with lyx2lyx so that it's

Re: Word won't open simplest LyXHTML file

2013-01-21 Thread Nico Williams
I've been using LyXHTML and writing an XSL to convert from that. That's left me unsatisfied. I think the right approach is to have a LyX XML schema, export to that, then apply an XSL to convert to whatever format you want. I've written a script to convert .lyx to XML using a very simple-minded

Re: Word won't open simplest LyXHTML file

2013-01-21 Thread Nico Williams
Hmm, the thought occurs that my lyx2xml script wouldn't be broken by any changes to.lyx, not if it was always chained with lyx2lyx so that it's input were always in a version supported by lyx2xml...

Re: Word won't open simplest LyXHTML file

2013-01-21 Thread Nico Williams
I've been using LyXHTML and writing an XSL to convert from that. That's left me unsatisfied. I think the right approach is to have a LyX XML schema, export to that, then apply an XSL to convert to whatever format you want. I've written a script to convert .lyx to XML using a very simple-minded

Re: Word won't open simplest LyXHTML file

2013-01-21 Thread Nico Williams
Hmm, the thought occurs that my lyx2xml script wouldn't be broken by any changes to.lyx, not if it was always chained with lyx2lyx so that it's input were always in a version supported by lyx2xml...

Re: Word won't open simplest LyXHTML file

2013-01-21 Thread Nico Williams
I've been using LyXHTML and writing an XSL to convert from that. That's left me unsatisfied. I think the right approach is to have a LyX XML schema, export to that, then apply an XSL to convert to whatever format you want. I've written a script to convert .lyx to XML using a very simple-minded

Re: Word won't open simplest LyXHTML file

2013-01-21 Thread Nico Williams
Hmm, the thought occurs that my lyx2xml script wouldn't be broken by any changes to.lyx, not if it was always chained with lyx2lyx so that it's input were always in a version supported by lyx2xml...

Re: The pLyX system

2013-01-02 Thread Nico Williams
On Jan 2, 2013 8:13 AM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote: On 01/02/2013 01:40 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote: On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote: all of this explanation, and these files, there. Better yet, for the files, create a git repo on github (or somewhere)

Re: The pLyX system

2013-01-02 Thread Nico Williams
On Jan 2, 2013 8:13 AM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote: On 01/02/2013 01:40 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote: On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote: all of this explanation, and these files, there. Better yet, for the files, create a git repo on github (or somewhere)

Re: The pLyX system

2013-01-02 Thread Nico Williams
On Jan 2, 2013 8:13 AM, "Richard Heck" wrote: > > On 01/02/2013 01:40 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Richard Heck wrote: >>> >>> all of this explanation, and these files, there. Better yet, for the files, >>> create a git repo on

Multiple references sections?

2012-12-28 Thread Nico Williams
When using the bibliography environment a section is created called 'References'. It's possible to add bibliography all over a document, each set of which will be in its own section, but they're all called References. Is there any way to change this other than editing the .lyx to change the

Re: Multiple references sections?

2012-12-28 Thread Nico Williams
Never mind, found it: paragraph settings.

Re: Multiple references sections?

2012-12-28 Thread Nico Williams
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Nico Williams n...@cryptonector.com wrote: Never mind, found it: paragraph settings. No, \labelwidthstring is something else. It'd be nice to be able to title References sections something else. In RFC typesetting we need to be able to have Normative References

Multiple references sections?

2012-12-28 Thread Nico Williams
When using the bibliography environment a section is created called 'References'. It's possible to add bibliography all over a document, each set of which will be in its own section, but they're all called References. Is there any way to change this other than editing the .lyx to change the

Re: Multiple references sections?

2012-12-28 Thread Nico Williams
Never mind, found it: paragraph settings.

Re: Multiple references sections?

2012-12-28 Thread Nico Williams
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Nico Williams n...@cryptonector.com wrote: Never mind, found it: paragraph settings. No, \labelwidthstring is something else. It'd be nice to be able to title References sections something else. In RFC typesetting we need to be able to have Normative References

Multiple references sections?

2012-12-28 Thread Nico Williams
When using the bibliography environment a section is created called 'References'. It's possible to add bibliography all over a document, each set of which will be in its own section, but they're all called "References". Is there any way to change this other than editing the .lyx to change the

Re: Multiple references sections?

2012-12-28 Thread Nico Williams
Never mind, found it: paragraph settings.

Re: Multiple references sections?

2012-12-28 Thread Nico Williams
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Nico Williams <n...@cryptonector.com> wrote: > Never mind, found it: paragraph settings. No, \labelwidthstring is something else. It'd be nice to be able to title References sections something else. In RFC typesetting we need to be able to have &

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-19 Thread Nico Williams
FWIW, I edit XML in vim plenty. It's not awesome, but it's not particularly painful either. XML is not unfriendly to $EDITOR, but it is more verbose. The great value that XML provides is in technologies like XPath, XQuery, and XSLT. I ache for the power of XSLT in association with LyX. But

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-19 Thread Nico Williams
FWIW, I edit XML in vim plenty. It's not awesome, but it's not particularly painful either. XML is not unfriendly to $EDITOR, but it is more verbose. The great value that XML provides is in technologies like XPath, XQuery, and XSLT. I ache for the power of XSLT in association with LyX. But

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-19 Thread Nico Williams
FWIW, I edit XML in vim plenty. It's not awesome, but it's not particularly painful either. XML is not unfriendly to $EDITOR, but it is more verbose. The great value that XML provides is in technologies like XPath, XQuery, and XSLT. I ache for the power of XSLT in association with LyX. But

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-18 Thread Nico Williams
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 10:22:17 +0100 Rainer M Krug r.m.k...@gmail.com wrote: This all sounds very exciting and extremely useful for import / export / collaboration, but there is one aspect which I would be missing in

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-18 Thread Nico Williams
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 10:22:17 +0100 Rainer M Krug r.m.k...@gmail.com wrote: This all sounds very exciting and extremely useful for import / export / collaboration, but there is one aspect which I would be missing in

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-18 Thread Nico Williams
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 10:22:17 +0100 > Rainer M Krug wrote: >> This all sounds very exciting and extremely useful for import / >> export / collaboration, but there is one aspect which I would be >>

Rendering metadata

2012-12-17 Thread Nico Williams
I've been using custom insets to represent metadata that LyX doesn't natively handle. I'd like this to get rendered when printing or exporting to, say, PDF. The rendering would first take the form of lyx code, so that LyX needn't have too much change. How would I go about making this happen?

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-17 Thread Nico Williams
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote: On 12/17/2012 11:45 AM, Alex Vergara Gil wrote: There still are long-term plans to convert the native LyX format to XML. But it turns out to be more work than one might expect. rh Really nice to hear about this, is there

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-17 Thread Nico Williams
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 2:02 PM, stefano franchi stefano.fran...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds like a great idea. One question: would having an external but faithful XML Lyx file allow XLS-translations to XML-based word-processing formats? That would solve once and for all (hopefully) the problem of

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-17 Thread Nico Williams
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote: I'm not so sure. If someone were to write a converter that mapped LyX's XML onto ODT's, or whatever, then yes. But that would still need doing. Yes, of course. However, I think it should be easier to write such XSLs to map

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-17 Thread Nico Williams
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Alex Vergara Gil a...@cphr.edu.cu wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote: I'm not so sure. If someone were to write a converter that mapped LyX's XML onto ODT's, or whatever, then yes. But that would still need doing.

Rendering metadata

2012-12-17 Thread Nico Williams
I've been using custom insets to represent metadata that LyX doesn't natively handle. I'd like this to get rendered when printing or exporting to, say, PDF. The rendering would first take the form of lyx code, so that LyX needn't have too much change. How would I go about making this happen?

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-17 Thread Nico Williams
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote: On 12/17/2012 11:45 AM, Alex Vergara Gil wrote: There still are long-term plans to convert the native LyX format to XML. But it turns out to be more work than one might expect. rh Really nice to hear about this, is there

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-17 Thread Nico Williams
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 2:02 PM, stefano franchi stefano.fran...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds like a great idea. One question: would having an external but faithful XML Lyx file allow XLS-translations to XML-based word-processing formats? That would solve once and for all (hopefully) the problem of

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-17 Thread Nico Williams
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote: I'm not so sure. If someone were to write a converter that mapped LyX's XML onto ODT's, or whatever, then yes. But that would still need doing. Yes, of course. However, I think it should be easier to write such XSLs to map

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-17 Thread Nico Williams
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Alex Vergara Gil a...@cphr.edu.cu wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote: I'm not so sure. If someone were to write a converter that mapped LyX's XML onto ODT's, or whatever, then yes. But that would still need doing.

Rendering metadata

2012-12-17 Thread Nico Williams
I've been using custom insets to represent metadata that LyX doesn't natively handle. I'd like this to get rendered when printing or exporting to, say, PDF. The rendering would first take the form of lyx code, so that LyX needn't have too much change. How would I go about making this happen?

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-17 Thread Nico Williams
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Richard Heck wrote: > On 12/17/2012 11:45 AM, Alex Vergara Gil wrote: >>> There still are long-term plans to convert the native LyX format to XML. >>> But it turns out to be more work than one might expect. >>> >>> rh >> >> Really nice to hear

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-17 Thread Nico Williams
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 2:02 PM, stefano franchi wrote: > Sounds like a great idea. One question: would having an external but > faithful XML Lyx file allow XLS-translations to XML-based word-processing > formats? > That would solve once and for all (hopefully) the

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-17 Thread Nico Williams
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Richard Heck wrote: > I'm not so sure. If someone were to write a converter that mapped LyX's XML > onto ODT's, or whatever, then yes. But that would still need doing. Yes, of course. However, I think it should be easier to write such XSLs to map

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-17 Thread Nico Williams
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Alex Vergara Gil wrote: > >> On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Richard Heck wrote: >>> >>> I'm not so sure. If someone were to write a converter that mapped LyX's >>> XML >>> onto ODT's, or whatever, then yes. But that would still

Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-16 Thread Nico Williams
I've written a Python script for converting .lyx files to XML. There's no DTD or schema, but it's a straightforward mapping of .lyx format to XML. Things like \being_layout ... \end_layout become layout ../layout and so on. This is much more faithful a mapping to XML than LyXHTML, or any of

Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-16 Thread Nico Williams
I've written a Python script for converting .lyx files to XML. There's no DTD or schema, but it's a straightforward mapping of .lyx format to XML. Things like \being_layout ... \end_layout become layout ../layout and so on. This is much more faithful a mapping to XML than LyXHTML, or any of

Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-16 Thread Nico Williams
I've written a Python script for converting .lyx files to XML. There's no DTD or schema, but it's a straightforward mapping of .lyx format to XML. Things like \being_layout ... \end_layout become ... and so on. This is much more faithful a mapping to XML than LyXHTML, or any of the other XML

Re: Using LyX to edit organise bibliographies

2012-12-13 Thread Nico Williams
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 5:58 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: On Apr 20, 2012, at 11:23 AM, stefano franchi wrote: Moreover, it is not even clear that BibTeX will remain the only database format for TeX users. Biber, a much more flexible and heavily developed BibTeX replacement, is

Re: Using LyX to edit organise bibliographies

2012-12-13 Thread Nico Williams
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 5:58 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: On Apr 20, 2012, at 11:23 AM, stefano franchi wrote: Moreover, it is not even clear that BibTeX will remain the only database format for TeX users. Biber, a much more flexible and heavily developed BibTeX replacement, is

Re: Using LyX to edit & organise bibliographies

2012-12-13 Thread Nico Williams
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 5:58 AM, Eric Weir wrote: > On Apr 20, 2012, at 11:23 AM, stefano franchi wrote: >> Moreover, it is not even clear that BibTeX will remain the only >> database format for TeX users. Biber, a much more flexible and heavily >> developed BibTeX

Re: LyX document diff/merge tools for cooperative editing?

2012-12-12 Thread Nico Williams
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org wrote: Gregory Jefferis wrote: One solution would be to detect merge conflicts and call our diff algorithm for the different versions. This would be beautiful but an order of magnitude harder to implement (surely not me:) That's

Re: LyX document diff/merge tools for cooperative editing?

2012-12-12 Thread Nico Williams
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org wrote: Gregory Jefferis wrote: One solution would be to detect merge conflicts and call our diff algorithm for the different versions. This would be beautiful but an order of magnitude harder to implement (surely not me:) That's

Re: LyX document diff/merge tools for cooperative editing?

2012-12-12 Thread Nico Williams
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Pavel Sanda wrote: > Gregory Jefferis wrote: > One solution would be to detect merge conflicts and call our diff algorithm > for the different versions. > This would be beautiful but an order of magnitude harder to implement (surely > not me:)

Re: No bibliography environment in DocBook document class

2012-12-11 Thread Nico Williams
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 5:22 PM, José Matos jama...@lyx.org wrote: On 12/10/2012 10:46 PM, Nico Williams wrote: Why is there no bibliography environment in the DocBook document classes? There must be a reason, of course, but then, bibtex is still supported, so that's strange... The reason

Re: LyX document diff/merge tools for cooperative editing?

2012-12-11 Thread Nico Williams
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org wrote: We currently use integrated SVN support of LyX for this. The merge conflicts are avoided by locking the whole document or childern (parts of the text). It is precisely because locking doesn't scale that we have branching and

Re: LyX document diff/merge tools for cooperative editing?

2012-12-11 Thread Nico Williams
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org wrote: Nico Williams wrote: It is precisely because locking doesn't scale that we have branching and merging. Locking simply does not scale. This is true even of documents (as opposed to source code). Conditions I had in mind were

Re: LyX document diff/merge tools for cooperative editing?

2012-12-11 Thread Nico Williams
On Tuesday, December 11, 2012, Pavel Sanda wrote: Nico Williams wrote: I believe merging is easier than locking, even for small teams. That's because you probably work with people with computer science background. The moment you step out of these waters the most you can expect is push red

Re: No bibliography environment in DocBook document class

2012-12-11 Thread Nico Williams
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 5:22 PM, José Matos jama...@lyx.org wrote: On 12/10/2012 10:46 PM, Nico Williams wrote: Why is there no bibliography environment in the DocBook document classes? There must be a reason, of course, but then, bibtex is still supported, so that's strange... The reason

Re: LyX document diff/merge tools for cooperative editing?

2012-12-11 Thread Nico Williams
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org wrote: We currently use integrated SVN support of LyX for this. The merge conflicts are avoided by locking the whole document or childern (parts of the text). It is precisely because locking doesn't scale that we have branching and

Re: LyX document diff/merge tools for cooperative editing?

2012-12-11 Thread Nico Williams
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org wrote: Nico Williams wrote: It is precisely because locking doesn't scale that we have branching and merging. Locking simply does not scale. This is true even of documents (as opposed to source code). Conditions I had in mind were

Re: LyX document diff/merge tools for cooperative editing?

2012-12-11 Thread Nico Williams
On Tuesday, December 11, 2012, Pavel Sanda wrote: Nico Williams wrote: I believe merging is easier than locking, even for small teams. That's because you probably work with people with computer science background. The moment you step out of these waters the most you can expect is push red

Re: No bibliography environment in DocBook document class

2012-12-11 Thread Nico Williams
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 5:22 PM, José Matos <jama...@lyx.org> wrote: > On 12/10/2012 10:46 PM, Nico Williams wrote: >> Why is there no bibliography environment in the DocBook document >> classes? There must be a reason, of course, but then, bibtex is still >> s

Re: LyX document diff/merge tools for cooperative editing?

2012-12-11 Thread Nico Williams
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Pavel Sanda wrote: > We currently use integrated SVN support of LyX for this. > The merge conflicts are avoided by locking the whole document or childern > (parts of the text). It is precisely because locking doesn't scale that we have branching

Re: LyX document diff/merge tools for cooperative editing?

2012-12-11 Thread Nico Williams
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Pavel Sanda <sa...@lyx.org> wrote: > Nico Williams wrote: >> It is precisely because locking doesn't scale that we have branching >> and merging. Locking simply does not scale. This is true even of >> documents (as opposed to source

Re: LyX document diff/merge tools for cooperative editing?

2012-12-11 Thread Nico Williams
On Tuesday, December 11, 2012, Pavel Sanda wrote: > Nico Williams wrote: > > I believe merging is easier than locking, even for small teams. > > That's because you probably work with people with computer science > background. > The moment you step out of these waters th

No bibliography environment in DocBook document class

2012-12-10 Thread Nico Williams
Why is there no bibliography environment in the DocBook document classes? There must be a reason, of course, but then, bibtex is still supported, so that's strange... Nico --

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