Chapter format/spacing

2001-09-06 Thread Simon G Hill


Greetings all,
I'm trying to condense a big report to make it as small as possible without 
taking out too many words. I noticed that the Chapter format tends to waste 
heaps of room on a page.

Can someone please let me know how to reduce 
the length from the top of the page to Chapter X,
the length to the Chapter title
and the length to the first bit of text.

Thanks heaps
Simon



Re: Full width tables

2001-09-06 Thread Nicholas Piper

On Wed, 05 Sep 2001, Herbert Voss wrote:

 Nicholas Piper wrote:

  I don't understand your last line. Could you give me an example or
  point me to where I might find one ?

 the following all in tex (red)

 \noindent\begin{tabularx}{\textwidth}{|c|X|c|}\hline 
 one  two  three \\ 
 1  2  3 \\ 
 a  b  c \\ \hline 
 \end{tabularx}

Ah, so it is still not possible to do this using the LyX table editor?
I suppose I can pass my file through a filter that converts tablular
to tabularx afterwards.

Cheers,

 Nick

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Re: Full width tables

2001-09-06 Thread Herbert Voss


On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Nicholas Piper wrote:

   I don't understand your last line. Could you give me an example or
   point me to where I might find one ?

  the following all in tex (red)

  \noindent\begin{tabularx}{\textwidth}{|c|X|c|}\hline
  one  two  three \\
  1  2  3 \\
  a  b  c \\ \hline
  \end{tabularx}

 Ah, so it is still not possible to do this using the LyX table editor?
 I suppose I can pass my file through a filter that converts tablular
 to tabularx afterwards.

latest cvs seems to be buggy, but 1.1.6 and ealier should
do the trick. with \renewenvironment{tabular}

Herbert




Rendering of EPS files

2001-09-06 Thread Nick Burgan

Hello All,

I wish to insert some photographs into my LyX document. I have the photos as 
.jpeg originally and I have converted them to .eps (level 2) using the 
Convert package that is part of image magick
ie. convert filename.jpg eps2:filename.eps

When I insert the .eps files into LyX, the image quality is very poor, and 
they look very grainy. In fact the .eps files look very poor in most of the 
image viewers I have on my system. Except for the Display package (part of 
image magick again).

(It doesn't seem to be a problem with figures ie plots, just with 
photograpghs)

I realise that the images will print perfectly but I was looking for a way to 
make them look better 'on screen'.

I guess LyX relies on ghostscript to render the images on screen ?

Is it possible to make LyX use another image rendering 'engine', for example 
the one that Display uses (I have no idea what this is). Display seems to 
render the images much faster also.

Maybe this is a development issue ?

Thanks in advance
Nick

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Postgraduate Student

Active Noise and Vibration Control Group
Department of Mechanical Engineering
University of Adelaide
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AUSTRALIA

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More than 12pt ?

2001-09-06 Thread Nicolas SABOURET

Hi !

This is more or less a latex question but I suppose I can find an
answer here. I prepare some exams or exercices for 11 to 16y old
students using Lyx and the article class.

However, 12pt is still too small for them. The solution I use is to
select the whole document text and to increase the size via the
character window.
This solution has one major problem : the section numbers stay in 12pt,
regular size (which is very small compared to the title, in some case).

Here are my two questions :
1. Is there a way to increase also the size of these numbers (I thought
about \Large{ at the begining of the document, and } at the end, in
latex mode, but I didn't try since it seemed hugly to me).

2. Is there any other class I could use ?

Thanks in advance,
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Re: More than 12pt ?

2001-09-06 Thread Jean-Pierre.Chretien


Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 11:41:53 +0200
From: Nicolas SABOURET [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: More than 12pt ?

Hi !

This is more or less a latex question but I suppose I can find an
answer here. I prepare some exams or exercices for 11 to 16y old
students using Lyx and the article class.

However, 12pt is still too small for them. The solution I use is to
select the whole document text and to increase the size via the
character window.
This solution has one major problem : the section numbers stay in 12pt,
regular size (which is very small compared to the title, in some case).

Here are my two questions :
1. Is there a way to increase also the size of these numbers (I thought
about \Large{ at the begining of the document, and } at the end, in
latex mode, but I didn't try since it seemed hugly to me).

2. Is there any other class I could use ?

Thanks in advance,
-- 

An « external » way is to use the magnification option of dvips,
wich can produce en enlarged image of the document (starting with
big margins of course).
The first time you call it with a mag coefficient different from 1000
(yes it's in thousandths), it will take some time for font calculation,
but otherwise I used it with success to build up 11.5 pt sized docs...

-- 
Jean-Pierre





Re: More than 12pt ?

2001-09-06 Thread Tuukka Toivonen

On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Nicolas SABOURET wrote:

 2. Is there any other class I could use ?

There is a package extsizes that should let you use more font sizes.
Haven't tried it myself though...




Re: More than 12pt ?

2001-09-06 Thread Herbert Voss


On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Nicolas SABOURET wrote:

 This is more or less a latex question but I suppose I can find an
 answer here. I prepare some exams or exercices for 11 to 16y old
 students using Lyx and the article class.

 However, 12pt is still too small for them. The solution I use is to
 select the whole document text and to increase the size via the
 character window.
 This solution has one major problem : the section numbers stay in 12pt,
 regular size (which is very small compared to the title, in some case).

 Here are my two questions :
 1. Is there a way to increase also the size of these numbers (I thought
 about \Large{ at the begining of the document, and } at the end, in
 latex mode, but I didn't try since it seemed hugly to me).

 2. Is there any other class I could use ?

have a look at

http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/fonts/extsizes.html

these classes are part of the latest cvs and maybe 1.1.6fix3

is it right, Jean-Marc??

Herbert




Re: More than 12pt ?

2001-09-06 Thread Nicolas SABOURET

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
 
  Herbert == Herbert Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Herbert these classes are part of the latest cvs and maybe 1.1.6fix3
 
 Herbert is it right, Jean-Marc??
 
 Yes, they are part of 1.1.6fix3.
 
 JMarc

Thanks for your answers. This looks good to me.

Nico.
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LIMSI-CNRS, BP133, 91403 Orsay, France
http://www.limsi.fr/Individu/nico



Unable to print roman numbered pages

2001-09-06 Thread Detlev Humann



Hi!
The first part of my text is "Roman" numbered, the 
second "arabic". All looks fine on the screen, but the problem is: How can I 
tell my printer to print the roman pages?
If I put e.g. "VII" in the printing menu I get an 
error message like "unable to print ("Es konnte nicht gedruckt 
werden").
If I put arabic numbers in the printing menu I get 
of course the arabic numbered pages printed.
What am I doing wrong?
Thanks in advance!
Detlev



Re: Hypertext and PDF

2001-09-06 Thread Beyer, Marcus



Hello Jean-Pierre,

  Running tex2pdf -r to change the toc 
  option from yes to no produced en error:
  pdfTeX error (ext4): link annotations can't be nested.

 The option linktocpage is doing nothing else than putting
'linktocpage'
 in the the hyperref parameters. Works here ...

A much better solution than 'linktocpage' is using a newer pdfTeX
version,
as it can now handle nested links!

See also this page from the hyperref mantainer 
http://www.tug.org/pipermail/pdftex/2000-August/006924.html

I tried it, and it works. I send you an example if you want.

Grüße,
Marcus

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Re: Why LyX?

2001-09-06 Thread Joao B. Oliveira

 On Wednesday 05 September 2001 16:09, you wrote:
  John Levon writes:
 
I've turned tens of normal students onto lyx instead
of word (even unix-hating students) entirely as a result of the output.
 
  Yes, but ...

My two bits:

The effect on my students has been the same. Two years ago we started
pushing them to LaTeX/LyX. At first they were rather reluctant,
but they learned that they can write rather large documents WITHOUT:

1) Getting ridiculously large .doc files

2) Losing all formatting because W*rd gets suddenly insane.

3) Losing pictures, references, numbering, etc due to the same
reasons.

4) blah-blah-blah: all bugs that W*rd has.

In fact, one year ago just one work (out of 20) was written in LyX,
a rather bad record. This year, there were 8 out of 12. Next year
we plan to crush the W*rd users, as people are learning that the
effort to learn a new editor completely pays itself.

Our price to have such results: we had to provide .cls and
.layout files for our written works (took a few days to adapt from
report.cls) and support them. Not such a terrible job.

Our advantage: all written works using such a format seem alike,
and there are NO formatting wars: everyone gets the same results
and nobody cares about making it more beautiful than the others or
such a crap. Gluing them all together to produce a volume is simple.

The students notice that they do not have to format their documents
for hours, or produce title pages by themselves, or many other
things that are done automatically. They notice that they are free
to concentrate on the thinking part of their texts.

This is all referent to LyX, but there is a point that specifically
refers to LaTeX: one CAN write programs that automatically produce
LaTeX files as output. I have already done that in my thesis long
ago, and it is a \HUGE satisfaction to have a program that runs
and produces TeX output automatically, formatted and ready to be
included into another document. There is no copy and paste, no
nothing. I have been using this to produce random exercise lists,
so that every student gets different tasks. You just need a lot
of tasks, a program to produce a .tex context around the task to
be done, and run LaTeX automatically. Couldn't be smoother, and in
three minutes I get 50 high-quality documents ready for distribution.

Yes, in this list we have all those little formatting problems:
How do I enlarge this, or reduce that, or insert this other, or
change all of  about this, there are two things that may be said:

-- Solving such things is fun, and one learns a lot from them.

-- There are such discussions because LaTeX allows us to make such
special demands (and we are free to try it), although a typical user
does not need to care about it. Thousands of LyX users don't care.

To sum it up, the best thing is to see a formerly reluctant student
come proudly to you to show the document he has produced, and saying
This is so much better to work with, and results are better too.

I think this is the joy of doing it all.

jb





Re: Coping and pasting tables from SPSS

2001-09-06 Thread Ronny Buchmann

* Giovanni Tummarello [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2001-09-04 19:26] wrote:
 Hello people, i am a student in engeneering trying to use lyx to write my 
 master thesis.
 Although entusiast at the beginning of the journey (leaving Word behind 
 seemed so attractive) i am now loosing entusiasm over the inability to import 
 objects (tables, graphs etc..) from other applications as well as the apparent 
 impossibility to really decide where things should go.
 
 Needless to say i am working on a windows 2000 environment.
this is not lyx's fault ;)

 
 Example.. i am using SPSS (very advanced statistical program) and it produces 
 graphs and tables. Graphs i can export to EPS and therefore have them in my lyx 
 document, no problems about that. but what about tables?? tables dont offer the 
 export to eps option and there seem to be no way to include them in lyx 
 without COMPLETELY REWRITING THEM (which is not an option since i have several 
 tables filled with values). Of course if i open Word .. all i have to do is a 
 copy/paste sequence and the table appairs in that environmanent as well. .ready 
 to be nicely included. 
if you can export to excel (or copypaste to excel) you can use xl2latex from ctan
 
-- 
ronny



Re: More than 12pt ?

2001-09-06 Thread Renaud MICHEL

Le Jeudi 6 Septembre 2001 12:28, vous avez écrit :
  Herbert == Herbert Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Herbert these classes are part of the latest cvs and maybe 1.1.6fix3

 Herbert is it right, Jean-Marc??

 Yes, they are part of 1.1.6fix3.

Installed extsizes and reconfigured LyX and it work, but the only sizes 
avaible from the document dialog are 8 9 14 17 20, this is too few, there 
should be also at least 11 and 12 (perhaps every size from 8 to 20 should be 
there), could this be modified for the next release of LyX (I will do it for 
my personnal use).

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sans faire de bulles, sans faire de bruit.
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Renaud MICHEL



Re: Unable to print roman numbered pages

2001-09-06 Thread Renaud MICHEL

Le Jeudi 6 Septembre 2001 12:57, vous avez écrit :
 Hi!
 The first part of my text is Roman numbered, the second arabic. All
 looks fine on the screen, but the problem is: How can I tell my printer to
 print the roman pages? If I put e.g. VII in the printing menu I get an
 error message like unable to print (Es konnte nicht gedruckt werden). If
 I put arabic numbers in the printing menu I get of course the arabic
 numbered pages printed. What am I doing wrong?
 Thanks in advance!
 Detlev

You can try to preview with ghostview and from there to select all the pages 
you want to print and send them to you printer from gv itself, to do so gv 
will ask for the command it should use to print this is generally lpr and you 
must use the -PNameOfPrinter option (note that there are no spaces between 
the name of the printer and the -P, for me this gives lpr -PHP660c).

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Re: More than 12pt ?

2001-09-06 Thread Andre Poenitz

On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 01:28:06PM +0200, Renaud MICHEL wrote:
 Installed extsizes and reconfigured LyX and it work, but the only sizes 
 avaible from the document dialog are 8 9 14 17 20, this is too few, there 
 should be also at least 11 and 12 (perhaps every size from 8 to 20 should be 
 there), could this be modified for the next release of LyX (I will do it for 
 my personnal use).

11 and 12 are available without extra packages...

Andre'

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Re: More than 12pt ?

2001-09-06 Thread Renaud MICHEL

Le Jeudi 6 Septembre 2001 13:51, vous avez écrit :
 On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 01:28:06PM +0200, Renaud MICHEL wrote:
  Installed extsizes and reconfigured LyX and it work, but the only sizes
  avaible from the document dialog are 8 9 14 17 20, this is too few, there
  should be also at least 11 and 12 (perhaps every size from 8 to 20 should
  be there), could this be modified for the next release of LyX (I will do
  it for my personnal use).

 11 and 12 are available without extra packages...

Sure, but this would be more consistant if you can access it also from the 
extra packages (for example if you need to make two different versions of the 
document, one that is normal size and one that is bigger). I have modified it 
to 8 9 11 12 14 16 18 20 for more fine tuning (but this is personnal opinion).

-- 
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Confucius 

Renaud MICHEL



Re: Underlined 16

2001-09-06 Thread Alessandro Cafarella


Lars Reineke wrote:
 Whenever I open a previously saved LyX-Dokument, a 
 blue underlined 16 has 
 been appended on the first line.
 What does that mean? And how do I get rid of it?

I had the same problem and I solved it.
One of the first lines in the lyx saved file is:
\lyxformat 2,16
(Notice the 16!)
If you manually change it in 2.16 each time it will
work. It's boring but it's so.
I think it's due to the fact that in some languages
(like italian, and, I guess, german) you write 0,5 to
mean one half, instead of the english use 0.5.

Bye, Alessandro

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Re: Unable to print roman numbered pages

2001-09-06 Thread Herbert Voss

 Detlev Humann wrote:
 
 The first part of my text is Roman numbered, the second arabic.
 All looks fine on the screen, but the problem is: How can I tell my
 printer to print the roman pages?
 If I put e.g. VII in the printing menu I get an error message like
 unable to print (Es konnte nicht gedruckt werden).
 If I put arabic numbers in the printing menu I get of course the
 arabic numbered pages printed.
 What am I doing wrong?

pagenumbering and counting the pages are two different things:

- pagenumbering may vary in the doc
- counting of the pages begins always at 1 and than increases  

in the printmenu insert the numbers how the pages are
counted, for example 2 to 4 are the second to the forth,
independent from your pagenumberstyle

Herbert

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Re: Rendering of EPS files

2001-09-06 Thread John Levon

On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 06:58:41PM +0930, Nick Burgan wrote:

 I guess LyX relies on ghostscript to render the images on screen ?

that's correct.

 Is it possible to make LyX use another image rendering 'engine', for example 
 the one that Display uses (I have no idea what this is). Display seems to 
 render the images much faster also.
 
 Maybe this is a development issue ?

the forthcoming 1.2.0 release uses ImageMagick (Display) to convert and
display the variety of image formats.

regards
john

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Re: Rendering of EPS files

2001-09-06 Thread Steve Litt

Hi Nick,

As I remember, when you convert to .eps you get a chance to declare a 
preview, which is a sort of thumbnail of the image in a different format. 
Perhaps you could use that to accomplish what you need. Try saving a .eps in 
Gimp, and notice the preview checkbox and preview size field.

Steve
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On Thursday 06 September 2001 05:28, Nick Burgan wrote:
 Hello All,

 I wish to insert some photographs into my LyX document. I have the photos
 as .jpeg originally and I have converted them to .eps (level 2) using the
 Convert package that is part of image magick
 ie. convert filename.jpg eps2:filename.eps

 When I insert the .eps files into LyX, the image quality is very poor, and
 they look very grainy. In fact the .eps files look very poor in most of the
 image viewers I have on my system. Except for the Display package (part of
 image magick again).

 (It doesn't seem to be a problem with figures ie plots, just with
 photograpghs)

 I realise that the images will print perfectly but I was looking for a way
 to make them look better 'on screen'.

 I guess LyX relies on ghostscript to render the images on screen ?

 Is it possible to make LyX use another image rendering 'engine', for
 example the one that Display uses (I have no idea what this is). Display
 seems to render the images much faster also.

 Maybe this is a development issue ?

 Thanks in advance
 Nick
 
 Nick Burgan
 Postgraduate Student

 Active Noise and Vibration Control Group
 Department of Mechanical Engineering
 University of Adelaide
 SA 5005
 AUSTRALIA

 Phone: +61 (0)8 8303 6385
 Fax: +61 (0)8 8303 4367
 



Re: Unable to print roman numbered pages

2001-09-06 Thread Detlev Humann



Thanks, Michel! Thanks, Herbert!It's O.K. Now I 
see the difference between counting and numbering the pages.I should have 
told that I have twice pages numbered 1-14, once roman andonce arabic 
(because of \setcounter{1} after the first part)So the economic way of 
printing only the roman pages is using gv.Detlev


Re: Underlined 16

2001-09-06 Thread Detlev Humann




 Lars Reineke wrote:
  Whenever I open a previously saved LyX-Dokument, a 
  blue underlined 16 has
  been appended on the first line.
  What does that mean? And how do I get rid of it?
 
 Alessandro Cafarella wrote:
 I had the same problem and I solved it.
 One of the first lines in the lyx saved file is:
 \lyxformat 2,16
 (Notice the 16!)
 If you manually change it in 2.16 each time it will
 work. It's boring but it's so.
 I think it's due to the fact that in some languages
 (like italian, and, I guess, german) you write 0,5 to
 mean one half, instead of the english use 0.5.

 Bye, Alessandro

In my humble opinion the easiest way is to put a % in ERT (the comment out
command) just in front of  the 16. So it won't appear again in your
printed doc.
Detlev





Letterhead?

2001-09-06 Thread Paul Lussier


Hi all,

Can someone provide a pointer to me as to how I can create letterhead 
with a logo on it?  I know I seen this documented somewhere, I just 
can't seem to remeber where.

Thanks,


-- 

Seeya,
Paul

...we don't need to be perfect to be the best around,
and we never stop trying to be better. 
   Tom Clancy, The Bear and The Dragon

 If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right!





Re: Letterhead?

2001-09-06 Thread rick

 
 Hi all,
 
 Can someone provide a pointer to me as to how I can create letterhead 
 with a logo on it?  I know I seen this documented somewhere, I just 
 can't seem to remeber where.
 
 Thanks,
 
 
 -- 
 
 Seeya,
 Paul 

We are a lyx positive company, or at least a lyx positive beachhead in a company.  Try 
looking here:  http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/%7evoss/lyx/titlepage/background.html

Rick

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Re: Chapter format/spacing

2001-09-06 Thread Herbert Voss

Simon G Hill wrote:
 
 I'm trying to condense a big report to make it as small as possible without
 taking out too many words. I noticed that the Chapter format tends to waste
 heaps of room on a page.
 
 Can someone please let me know how to reduce
 the length from the top of the page to Chapter X,
 the length to the Chapter title
 and the length to the first bit of text.

have a look at package secsty

HErbert

-- 
http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/



I need to make a new character style

2001-09-06 Thread Steve Litt

Hi all,

I need to make a new character style to represent steps in a 10 step 
Troubleshooting method. It must be a distinct style, not an additional use of 
a different character style such as noun style. That way I can find them all, 
and change their appearance en masse if need be.

How do you do that? If anyone has an example of a character style (not a 
paragraph style) they've created, could you email me an example? Herbert, do 
you have a good example on your website?

Thanks

Steve
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Re: I need to make a new character style

2001-09-06 Thread Herbert Voss

Steve Litt wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I need to make a new character style to represent steps in a 10 step
 Troubleshooting method. It must be a distinct style, not an additional use of
 a different character style such as noun style. That way I can find them all,
 and change their appearance en masse if need be.

\newfont{\myFont}{pzdr at 30pt} % expand cmr10 to 30pt

\myFont only a fonttest, which only works if you have the
font pzdr (Zapf Dingbats) installed. otherwise choose
anotherone

 How do you do that? If anyone has an example of a character style (not a
 paragraph style) they've created, could you email me an example? Herbert, do
 you have a good example on your website?

sure. ;-)

Herbert


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Re: Underlined 16

2001-09-06 Thread Lars Reineke

 I had the same problem and I solved it.
 One of the first lines in the lyx saved file is:
 \lyxformat 2,16
 (Notice the 16!)
 If you manually change it in 2.16 each time it will
 work. It's boring but it's so.
 I think it's due to the fact that in some languages
 (like italian, and, I guess, german) you write 0,5 to
 mean one half, instead of the english use 0.5.

While upgrading to SuSE 7.2 I installed 1.1.6fix2, too, so the problem is 
solved now.

Anyway, thank you very much for your effort.

Bye
Lars



Re: More than 12pt ?

2001-09-06 Thread Herbert Voss

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
 
  Renaud == Renaud MICHEL [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Renaud Installed extsizes and reconfigured LyX and it work, but the
 Renaud only sizes avaible from the document dialog are 8 9 14 17 20,
 Renaud this is too few, there should be also at least 11 and 12
 Renaud (perhaps every size from 8 to 20 should be there), could this
 Renaud be modified for the next release of LyX (I will do it for my
 Renaud personnal use).
 
 In fact, the extsizes classes should really support the normal sizes
 too. Do they?

The sizes available are 8pt, 9pt, 10pt, 11pt, 12pt, 14pt, 17pt, and
20pt.

but using one of the standard sizes must not be the same output
like the one from the standard classes.


Herbert

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Re: More than 12pt ?

2001-09-06 Thread Herbert Voss

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
 
  Herbert == Herbert Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   In fact, the extsizes classes should really support the normal
  sizes too. Do they?
 
 Herbert The sizes available are 8pt, 9pt, 10pt, 11pt, 12pt, 14pt,
 Herbert 17pt, and 20pt.
 
 Herbert but using one of the standard sizes must not be the same
 Herbert output like the one from the standard classes.
 
 So why are the 10|11|12 sizes not available in the layout files?

to prevent questions like: why does ... works in article
and not in extarticle?

but it's no problem to make these sizes available, too.

Herbert


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Re: Underlined 16

2001-09-06 Thread Detlev Humann


   Lars Reineke wrote:  Whenever I open a previously saved
  LyX-Dokument, a   blue underlined 16 has  been appended on the
  first line.  What does that mean? And how do I get rid of it? 
  Alessandro Cafarella wrote: I had the same problem and I solved it.
  One of the first lines in the lyx saved file is: \lyxformat 2,16
  (Notice the 16!) If you manually change it in 2.16 each time it
  will work. It's boring but it's so. I think it's due to the fact
  that in some languages (like italian, and, I guess, german) you
  write 0,5 to mean one half, instead of the english use 0.5.
 
  Bye, Alessandro

 Detlev In my humble opinion the easiest way is to put a % in ERT (the
 Detlev comment out command) just in front of the 16. So it won't
 Detlev appear again in your printed doc. Detlev

 Yes, but the risk is that a new one appears when relaoding the
 document. Another solution is to upgrade to 1.1.6fix3 which fixes this
 problems (but is not very stable wrt tables).

 JMarc


O.K. But the new one appears after the older one. In my doc there are dozens
of 16s on the screen but never on the paper.
And I'm glad about the very, very stable version lyx 1.1.5fix1. Great! So I
won't change my running system. :-)
Detlev




Re: More than 12pt ?

2001-09-06 Thread Herbert Voss

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
 
  Herbert == Herbert Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   So why are the 10|11|12 sizes not available in the layout files?
 
 Herbert to prevent questions like: why does ... works in article and
 Herbert not in extarticle?
 
 Are there so many differences between the two classes? I have to admit
 that I do not understand how this could mislead people.

the differences are in titlepage, in part, bibliography. But I can't
tell more, because it's some time ago when I used extsizes. maybe
that these differences are not important ...

Herbert but it's no problem to make these sizes available, too.

 I let you decide what you prefer to do.

let it be ...

Herbert


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Re: Why Lyx?

2001-09-06 Thread Kathryn Andersen

On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 04:45:44PM +0200, Jean-Pierre.Chretien wrote:
 
 Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 22:08:24 +1000
 From: Kathryn Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Why Lyx?
 
 On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 02:30:14AM +0200, Giovanni Tummarello wrote:
  This opens up a question: if you leave alone the fact that lyx is
  free.. and that the underlying latex is supposely bug free. why
  features does lyx offer that word doesnt? (the contrary isnt really to
  be asked :) ) . I mean.. all the manual is boasting about has
  (internal references, footnotes etc etc.. ) are all things that have
  existed for at least 5 years in Word, and the equation editor its the
  same (if not plain better) than the one offered in Lyx. 
 
 existing isn't the same as works well or plays well with others.
 
 (Warning: Tale of Woe follows)
 
 I wish I could use Lyx at work.  Unfortunately the manual for the
 software I work on is required (by the client) to be in Word-readable
 format.  
 
 My colleagues come across this kind of request often, frankly I find
 it hard to understand. 
 
 Does the client want to edit the manuals ?
 If the answer is yes, OK, but if it is no, PDF or HTML are
 much better from the point of view of navigation or indexation
 on the electronic support, anf PDF is equivalent for the paper support.
 
 Do I miss someting there ?

The customer is always right.

They want the manual in electronic format so that they can print it out
themselves.  They've always had it in Word, word is everywhere in their
workplace, they aren't going to install Acrobat Reader just for us.

End of story.

Persuading people to change is hard.  Persuading clients to change is
impossible.

Kathryn Andersen
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Re: Why Lyx?

2001-09-06 Thread Kathryn Andersen

On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 05:46:55PM +0300, Robin Turner wrote:
 On Wednesday 05 September 2001 17:24, John Levon wrote:
  On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 10:08:24PM +1000, Kathryn Andersen wrote:
   One thing that LyX definitely does worse is fonts -- but that's because
   of the limitations of TeX.  Does anyone know if that's ever likely to
   improve?
 
  what do you mean here ?
 
 I wouldn't want to make assumptions about what Kathryn meant, but what _I_ 
 would mean by being bad at fonts is:

Thanks for not assuming, but you hit the nail on the head.
 
 1.  You only get a few fonts pre-installed with your standard TeX/LaTeX 
 distribution (not necessarily a bad thing, though).

Agreed.  After leaving the world of hundreds of TrueType fonts, it's a
rather a letdown.
 
 2.  Although there are some very nice TeXable fonts out there, installing 
 them is about as intuitive as quantum physics.

Say it again, man!  Even with some nice tools like vfontinst, you still
have to mess around in the bowels...
 
 3.  Even if you actually manage to get a new font installed, LyX won't 
 recognise it.

Evil Red Text is required -- that or making your own Style (which is
what I ended up doing).
 
 As I've said before, a very nice feature/plugin for LyX would be a 
 font-installer. My dream would be something that would connect to my nearest 
 CTAN mirror, download the fonts I want, integrate them in my TeX system and 
 add them to the LyX default font popup.

Or simply something that would allow me to use all of my existing
TrueType fonts as easily as I can now use them in X-Windows.
 
 Oh yes, and although I normally decry it as bad typesetting, occasionally it 
 would be nice to have more than one font in the same document.
 
Agreed.  What I've used LyX for, a fanzine, I had two main styles of
body font -- one for prose, and another for poetry.  I used a
script-style font for the poetry.  Obviously most people won't need to
do that, and I agree that less is beautiful and logical markup is King,
but even so...

LyX wasn't actually free -- it cost me $72 (the price of Lamport's LaTeX
book).  Oddly enough, I found the book catalogued under programming
languages.

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Lamport's book

2001-09-06 Thread Steve Litt

On Thursday 06 September 2001 18:51, Kathryn Andersen wrote:

 LyX wasn't actually free -- it cost me $72 (the price of Lamport's LaTeX
 book).  Oddly enough, I found the book catalogued under programming
 languages.

 Kathryn Andersen

Kathryn,

Would you recommend Lamport's book to someone who is writing a book in Lyx 
and needs lots of custom Environments and character styles? Is it 
understandable for someone who, let's put it this way -- doesn't have the 
world's best attention span? Is it well organized? Is there a way to get it 
for less than $72.00? I don't live in a technical metropolis -- where can I 
get it?

Thanks

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Re: Lamport's book

2001-09-06 Thread Herbert Voss

Steve Litt wrote:
 
 Would you recommend Lamport's book to someone who is writing a book in Lyx
 and needs lots of custom Environments and character styles? Is it
 understandable for someone who, let's put it this way -- doesn't have the
 world's best attention span? Is it well organized? Is there a way to get it
 for less than $72.00? I don't live in a technical metropolis -- where can I
 get it?

take the one from Goossens, Mittelbach, Samarin:
The Latex Companion

much more better (from my point of view)

Herbert

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Chapter format/spacing

2001-09-06 Thread Simon G Hill


Greetings all,
I'm trying to condense a big report to make it as small as possible without 
taking out too many words. I noticed that the Chapter format tends to waste 
heaps of room on a page.

Can someone please let me know how to reduce 
the length from the top of the page to Chapter X,
the length to the Chapter title
and the length to the first bit of text.

Thanks heaps
Simon



Re: Full width tables

2001-09-06 Thread Nicholas Piper

On Wed, 05 Sep 2001, Herbert Voss wrote:

 Nicholas Piper wrote:

  I don't understand your last line. Could you give me an example or
  point me to where I might find one ?

 the following all in tex (red)

 \noindent\begin{tabularx}{\textwidth}{|c|X|c|}\hline 
 one  two  three \\ 
 1  2  3 \\ 
 a  b  c \\ \hline 
 \end{tabularx}

Ah, so it is still not possible to do this using the LyX table editor?
I suppose I can pass my file through a filter that converts tablular
to tabularx afterwards.

Cheers,

 Nick

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Re: Full width tables

2001-09-06 Thread Herbert Voss


On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Nicholas Piper wrote:

   I don't understand your last line. Could you give me an example or
   point me to where I might find one ?

  the following all in tex (red)

  \noindent\begin{tabularx}{\textwidth}{|c|X|c|}\hline
  one  two  three \\
  1  2  3 \\
  a  b  c \\ \hline
  \end{tabularx}

 Ah, so it is still not possible to do this using the LyX table editor?
 I suppose I can pass my file through a filter that converts tablular
 to tabularx afterwards.

latest cvs seems to be buggy, but 1.1.6 and ealier should
do the trick. with \renewenvironment{tabular}

Herbert




Rendering of EPS files

2001-09-06 Thread Nick Burgan

Hello All,

I wish to insert some photographs into my LyX document. I have the photos as 
.jpeg originally and I have converted them to .eps (level 2) using the 
Convert package that is part of image magick
ie. convert filename.jpg eps2:filename.eps

When I insert the .eps files into LyX, the image quality is very poor, and 
they look very grainy. In fact the .eps files look very poor in most of the 
image viewers I have on my system. Except for the Display package (part of 
image magick again).

(It doesn't seem to be a problem with figures ie plots, just with 
photograpghs)

I realise that the images will print perfectly but I was looking for a way to 
make them look better 'on screen'.

I guess LyX relies on ghostscript to render the images on screen ?

Is it possible to make LyX use another image rendering 'engine', for example 
the one that Display uses (I have no idea what this is). Display seems to 
render the images much faster also.

Maybe this is a development issue ?

Thanks in advance
Nick

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More than 12pt ?

2001-09-06 Thread Nicolas SABOURET

Hi !

This is more or less a latex question but I suppose I can find an
answer here. I prepare some exams or exercices for 11 to 16y old
students using Lyx and the article class.

However, 12pt is still too small for them. The solution I use is to
select the whole document text and to increase the size via the
character window.
This solution has one major problem : the section numbers stay in 12pt,
regular size (which is very small compared to the title, in some case).

Here are my two questions :
1. Is there a way to increase also the size of these numbers (I thought
about \Large{ at the begining of the document, and } at the end, in
latex mode, but I didn't try since it seemed hugly to me).

2. Is there any other class I could use ?

Thanks in advance,
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Re: More than 12pt ?

2001-09-06 Thread Jean-Pierre.Chretien


Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 11:41:53 +0200
From: Nicolas SABOURET [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: More than 12pt ?

Hi !

This is more or less a latex question but I suppose I can find an
answer here. I prepare some exams or exercices for 11 to 16y old
students using Lyx and the article class.

However, 12pt is still too small for them. The solution I use is to
select the whole document text and to increase the size via the
character window.
This solution has one major problem : the section numbers stay in 12pt,
regular size (which is very small compared to the title, in some case).

Here are my two questions :
1. Is there a way to increase also the size of these numbers (I thought
about \Large{ at the begining of the document, and } at the end, in
latex mode, but I didn't try since it seemed hugly to me).

2. Is there any other class I could use ?

Thanks in advance,
-- 

An « external » way is to use the magnification option of dvips,
wich can produce en enlarged image of the document (starting with
big margins of course).
The first time you call it with a mag coefficient different from 1000
(yes it's in thousandths), it will take some time for font calculation,
but otherwise I used it with success to build up 11.5 pt sized docs...

-- 
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Re: More than 12pt ?

2001-09-06 Thread Tuukka Toivonen

On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Nicolas SABOURET wrote:

 2. Is there any other class I could use ?

There is a package extsizes that should let you use more font sizes.
Haven't tried it myself though...




Re: More than 12pt ?

2001-09-06 Thread Herbert Voss


On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Nicolas SABOURET wrote:

 This is more or less a latex question but I suppose I can find an
 answer here. I prepare some exams or exercices for 11 to 16y old
 students using Lyx and the article class.

 However, 12pt is still too small for them. The solution I use is to
 select the whole document text and to increase the size via the
 character window.
 This solution has one major problem : the section numbers stay in 12pt,
 regular size (which is very small compared to the title, in some case).

 Here are my two questions :
 1. Is there a way to increase also the size of these numbers (I thought
 about \Large{ at the begining of the document, and } at the end, in
 latex mode, but I didn't try since it seemed hugly to me).

 2. Is there any other class I could use ?

have a look at

http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/fonts/extsizes.html

these classes are part of the latest cvs and maybe 1.1.6fix3

is it right, Jean-Marc??

Herbert




Re: More than 12pt ?

2001-09-06 Thread Nicolas SABOURET

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
 
  Herbert == Herbert Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Herbert these classes are part of the latest cvs and maybe 1.1.6fix3
 
 Herbert is it right, Jean-Marc??
 
 Yes, they are part of 1.1.6fix3.
 
 JMarc

Thanks for your answers. This looks good to me.

Nico.
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Unable to print roman numbered pages

2001-09-06 Thread Detlev Humann



Hi!
The first part of my text is "Roman" numbered, the 
second "arabic". All looks fine on the screen, but the problem is: How can I 
tell my printer to print the roman pages?
If I put e.g. "VII" in the printing menu I get an 
error message like "unable to print ("Es konnte nicht gedruckt 
werden").
If I put arabic numbers in the printing menu I get 
of course the arabic numbered pages printed.
What am I doing wrong?
Thanks in advance!
Detlev



Re: Hypertext and PDF

2001-09-06 Thread Beyer, Marcus



Hello Jean-Pierre,

  Running tex2pdf -r to change the toc 
  option from yes to no produced en error:
  pdfTeX error (ext4): link annotations can't be nested.

 The option linktocpage is doing nothing else than putting
'linktocpage'
 in the the hyperref parameters. Works here ...

A much better solution than 'linktocpage' is using a newer pdfTeX
version,
as it can now handle nested links!

See also this page from the hyperref mantainer 
http://www.tug.org/pipermail/pdftex/2000-August/006924.html

I tried it, and it works. I send you an example if you want.

Grüße,
Marcus

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Re: Why LyX?

2001-09-06 Thread Joao B. Oliveira

 On Wednesday 05 September 2001 16:09, you wrote:
  John Levon writes:
 
I've turned tens of normal students onto lyx instead
of word (even unix-hating students) entirely as a result of the output.
 
  Yes, but ...

My two bits:

The effect on my students has been the same. Two years ago we started
pushing them to LaTeX/LyX. At first they were rather reluctant,
but they learned that they can write rather large documents WITHOUT:

1) Getting ridiculously large .doc files

2) Losing all formatting because W*rd gets suddenly insane.

3) Losing pictures, references, numbering, etc due to the same
reasons.

4) blah-blah-blah: all bugs that W*rd has.

In fact, one year ago just one work (out of 20) was written in LyX,
a rather bad record. This year, there were 8 out of 12. Next year
we plan to crush the W*rd users, as people are learning that the
effort to learn a new editor completely pays itself.

Our price to have such results: we had to provide .cls and
.layout files for our written works (took a few days to adapt from
report.cls) and support them. Not such a terrible job.

Our advantage: all written works using such a format seem alike,
and there are NO formatting wars: everyone gets the same results
and nobody cares about making it more beautiful than the others or
such a crap. Gluing them all together to produce a volume is simple.

The students notice that they do not have to format their documents
for hours, or produce title pages by themselves, or many other
things that are done automatically. They notice that they are free
to concentrate on the thinking part of their texts.

This is all referent to LyX, but there is a point that specifically
refers to LaTeX: one CAN write programs that automatically produce
LaTeX files as output. I have already done that in my thesis long
ago, and it is a \HUGE satisfaction to have a program that runs
and produces TeX output automatically, formatted and ready to be
included into another document. There is no copy and paste, no
nothing. I have been using this to produce random exercise lists,
so that every student gets different tasks. You just need a lot
of tasks, a program to produce a .tex context around the task to
be done, and run LaTeX automatically. Couldn't be smoother, and in
three minutes I get 50 high-quality documents ready for distribution.

Yes, in this list we have all those little formatting problems:
How do I enlarge this, or reduce that, or insert this other, or
change all of  about this, there are two things that may be said:

-- Solving such things is fun, and one learns a lot from them.

-- There are such discussions because LaTeX allows us to make such
special demands (and we are free to try it), although a typical user
does not need to care about it. Thousands of LyX users don't care.

To sum it up, the best thing is to see a formerly reluctant student
come proudly to you to show the document he has produced, and saying
This is so much better to work with, and results are better too.

I think this is the joy of doing it all.

jb





Re: Coping and pasting tables from SPSS

2001-09-06 Thread Ronny Buchmann

* Giovanni Tummarello [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2001-09-04 19:26] wrote:
 Hello people, i am a student in engeneering trying to use lyx to write my 
 master thesis.
 Although entusiast at the beginning of the journey (leaving Word behind 
 seemed so attractive) i am now loosing entusiasm over the inability to import 
 objects (tables, graphs etc..) from other applications as well as the apparent 
 impossibility to really decide where things should go.
 
 Needless to say i am working on a windows 2000 environment.
this is not lyx's fault ;)

 
 Example.. i am using SPSS (very advanced statistical program) and it produces 
 graphs and tables. Graphs i can export to EPS and therefore have them in my lyx 
 document, no problems about that. but what about tables?? tables dont offer the 
 export to eps option and there seem to be no way to include them in lyx 
 without COMPLETELY REWRITING THEM (which is not an option since i have several 
 tables filled with values). Of course if i open Word .. all i have to do is a 
 copy/paste sequence and the table appairs in that environmanent as well. .ready 
 to be nicely included. 
if you can export to excel (or copypaste to excel) you can use xl2latex from ctan
 
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Re: More than 12pt ?

2001-09-06 Thread Renaud MICHEL

Le Jeudi 6 Septembre 2001 12:28, vous avez écrit :
  Herbert == Herbert Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Herbert these classes are part of the latest cvs and maybe 1.1.6fix3

 Herbert is it right, Jean-Marc??

 Yes, they are part of 1.1.6fix3.

Installed extsizes and reconfigured LyX and it work, but the only sizes 
avaible from the document dialog are 8 9 14 17 20, this is too few, there 
should be also at least 11 and 12 (perhaps every size from 8 to 20 should be 
there), could this be modified for the next release of LyX (I will do it for 
my personnal use).

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Re: Unable to print roman numbered pages

2001-09-06 Thread Renaud MICHEL

Le Jeudi 6 Septembre 2001 12:57, vous avez écrit :
 Hi!
 The first part of my text is Roman numbered, the second arabic. All
 looks fine on the screen, but the problem is: How can I tell my printer to
 print the roman pages? If I put e.g. VII in the printing menu I get an
 error message like unable to print (Es konnte nicht gedruckt werden). If
 I put arabic numbers in the printing menu I get of course the arabic
 numbered pages printed. What am I doing wrong?
 Thanks in advance!
 Detlev

You can try to preview with ghostview and from there to select all the pages 
you want to print and send them to you printer from gv itself, to do so gv 
will ask for the command it should use to print this is generally lpr and you 
must use the -PNameOfPrinter option (note that there are no spaces between 
the name of the printer and the -P, for me this gives lpr -PHP660c).

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Re: More than 12pt ?

2001-09-06 Thread Andre Poenitz

On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 01:28:06PM +0200, Renaud MICHEL wrote:
 Installed extsizes and reconfigured LyX and it work, but the only sizes 
 avaible from the document dialog are 8 9 14 17 20, this is too few, there 
 should be also at least 11 and 12 (perhaps every size from 8 to 20 should be 
 there), could this be modified for the next release of LyX (I will do it for 
 my personnal use).

11 and 12 are available without extra packages...

Andre'

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Re: More than 12pt ?

2001-09-06 Thread Renaud MICHEL

Le Jeudi 6 Septembre 2001 13:51, vous avez écrit :
 On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 01:28:06PM +0200, Renaud MICHEL wrote:
  Installed extsizes and reconfigured LyX and it work, but the only sizes
  avaible from the document dialog are 8 9 14 17 20, this is too few, there
  should be also at least 11 and 12 (perhaps every size from 8 to 20 should
  be there), could this be modified for the next release of LyX (I will do
  it for my personnal use).

 11 and 12 are available without extra packages...

Sure, but this would be more consistant if you can access it also from the 
extra packages (for example if you need to make two different versions of the 
document, one that is normal size and one that is bigger). I have modified it 
to 8 9 11 12 14 16 18 20 for more fine tuning (but this is personnal opinion).

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Re: Underlined 16

2001-09-06 Thread Alessandro Cafarella


Lars Reineke wrote:
 Whenever I open a previously saved LyX-Dokument, a 
 blue underlined 16 has 
 been appended on the first line.
 What does that mean? And how do I get rid of it?

I had the same problem and I solved it.
One of the first lines in the lyx saved file is:
\lyxformat 2,16
(Notice the 16!)
If you manually change it in 2.16 each time it will
work. It's boring but it's so.
I think it's due to the fact that in some languages
(like italian, and, I guess, german) you write 0,5 to
mean one half, instead of the english use 0.5.

Bye, Alessandro

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Re: Unable to print roman numbered pages

2001-09-06 Thread Herbert Voss

 Detlev Humann wrote:
 
 The first part of my text is Roman numbered, the second arabic.
 All looks fine on the screen, but the problem is: How can I tell my
 printer to print the roman pages?
 If I put e.g. VII in the printing menu I get an error message like
 unable to print (Es konnte nicht gedruckt werden).
 If I put arabic numbers in the printing menu I get of course the
 arabic numbered pages printed.
 What am I doing wrong?

pagenumbering and counting the pages are two different things:

- pagenumbering may vary in the doc
- counting of the pages begins always at 1 and than increases  

in the printmenu insert the numbers how the pages are
counted, for example 2 to 4 are the second to the forth,
independent from your pagenumberstyle

Herbert

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Re: Rendering of EPS files

2001-09-06 Thread John Levon

On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 06:58:41PM +0930, Nick Burgan wrote:

 I guess LyX relies on ghostscript to render the images on screen ?

that's correct.

 Is it possible to make LyX use another image rendering 'engine', for example 
 the one that Display uses (I have no idea what this is). Display seems to 
 render the images much faster also.
 
 Maybe this is a development issue ?

the forthcoming 1.2.0 release uses ImageMagick (Display) to convert and
display the variety of image formats.

regards
john

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Re: Rendering of EPS files

2001-09-06 Thread Steve Litt

Hi Nick,

As I remember, when you convert to .eps you get a chance to declare a 
preview, which is a sort of thumbnail of the image in a different format. 
Perhaps you could use that to accomplish what you need. Try saving a .eps in 
Gimp, and notice the preview checkbox and preview size field.

Steve
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On Thursday 06 September 2001 05:28, Nick Burgan wrote:
 Hello All,

 I wish to insert some photographs into my LyX document. I have the photos
 as .jpeg originally and I have converted them to .eps (level 2) using the
 Convert package that is part of image magick
 ie. convert filename.jpg eps2:filename.eps

 When I insert the .eps files into LyX, the image quality is very poor, and
 they look very grainy. In fact the .eps files look very poor in most of the
 image viewers I have on my system. Except for the Display package (part of
 image magick again).

 (It doesn't seem to be a problem with figures ie plots, just with
 photograpghs)

 I realise that the images will print perfectly but I was looking for a way
 to make them look better 'on screen'.

 I guess LyX relies on ghostscript to render the images on screen ?

 Is it possible to make LyX use another image rendering 'engine', for
 example the one that Display uses (I have no idea what this is). Display
 seems to render the images much faster also.

 Maybe this is a development issue ?

 Thanks in advance
 Nick
 
 Nick Burgan
 Postgraduate Student

 Active Noise and Vibration Control Group
 Department of Mechanical Engineering
 University of Adelaide
 SA 5005
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Re: Unable to print roman numbered pages

2001-09-06 Thread Detlev Humann



Thanks, Michel! Thanks, Herbert!It's O.K. Now I 
see the difference between counting and numbering the pages.I should have 
told that I have twice pages numbered 1-14, once roman andonce arabic 
(because of \setcounter{1} after the first part)So the economic way of 
printing only the roman pages is using gv.Detlev


Re: Underlined 16

2001-09-06 Thread Detlev Humann




 Lars Reineke wrote:
  Whenever I open a previously saved LyX-Dokument, a 
  blue underlined 16 has
  been appended on the first line.
  What does that mean? And how do I get rid of it?
 
 Alessandro Cafarella wrote:
 I had the same problem and I solved it.
 One of the first lines in the lyx saved file is:
 \lyxformat 2,16
 (Notice the 16!)
 If you manually change it in 2.16 each time it will
 work. It's boring but it's so.
 I think it's due to the fact that in some languages
 (like italian, and, I guess, german) you write 0,5 to
 mean one half, instead of the english use 0.5.

 Bye, Alessandro

In my humble opinion the easiest way is to put a % in ERT (the comment out
command) just in front of  the 16. So it won't appear again in your
printed doc.
Detlev





Letterhead?

2001-09-06 Thread Paul Lussier


Hi all,

Can someone provide a pointer to me as to how I can create letterhead 
with a logo on it?  I know I seen this documented somewhere, I just 
can't seem to remeber where.

Thanks,


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Re: Letterhead?

2001-09-06 Thread rick

 
 Hi all,
 
 Can someone provide a pointer to me as to how I can create letterhead 
 with a logo on it?  I know I seen this documented somewhere, I just 
 can't seem to remeber where.
 
 Thanks,
 
 
 -- 
 
 Seeya,
 Paul 

We are a lyx positive company, or at least a lyx positive beachhead in a company.  Try 
looking here:  http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/%7evoss/lyx/titlepage/background.html

Rick

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Re: Chapter format/spacing

2001-09-06 Thread Herbert Voss

Simon G Hill wrote:
 
 I'm trying to condense a big report to make it as small as possible without
 taking out too many words. I noticed that the Chapter format tends to waste
 heaps of room on a page.
 
 Can someone please let me know how to reduce
 the length from the top of the page to Chapter X,
 the length to the Chapter title
 and the length to the first bit of text.

have a look at package secsty

HErbert

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I need to make a new character style

2001-09-06 Thread Steve Litt

Hi all,

I need to make a new character style to represent steps in a 10 step 
Troubleshooting method. It must be a distinct style, not an additional use of 
a different character style such as noun style. That way I can find them all, 
and change their appearance en masse if need be.

How do you do that? If anyone has an example of a character style (not a 
paragraph style) they've created, could you email me an example? Herbert, do 
you have a good example on your website?

Thanks

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Re: I need to make a new character style

2001-09-06 Thread Herbert Voss

Steve Litt wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I need to make a new character style to represent steps in a 10 step
 Troubleshooting method. It must be a distinct style, not an additional use of
 a different character style such as noun style. That way I can find them all,
 and change their appearance en masse if need be.

\newfont{\myFont}{pzdr at 30pt} % expand cmr10 to 30pt

\myFont only a fonttest, which only works if you have the
font pzdr (Zapf Dingbats) installed. otherwise choose
anotherone

 How do you do that? If anyone has an example of a character style (not a
 paragraph style) they've created, could you email me an example? Herbert, do
 you have a good example on your website?

sure. ;-)

Herbert


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Re: Underlined 16

2001-09-06 Thread Lars Reineke

 I had the same problem and I solved it.
 One of the first lines in the lyx saved file is:
 \lyxformat 2,16
 (Notice the 16!)
 If you manually change it in 2.16 each time it will
 work. It's boring but it's so.
 I think it's due to the fact that in some languages
 (like italian, and, I guess, german) you write 0,5 to
 mean one half, instead of the english use 0.5.

While upgrading to SuSE 7.2 I installed 1.1.6fix2, too, so the problem is 
solved now.

Anyway, thank you very much for your effort.

Bye
Lars



Re: More than 12pt ?

2001-09-06 Thread Herbert Voss

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
 
  Renaud == Renaud MICHEL [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Renaud Installed extsizes and reconfigured LyX and it work, but the
 Renaud only sizes avaible from the document dialog are 8 9 14 17 20,
 Renaud this is too few, there should be also at least 11 and 12
 Renaud (perhaps every size from 8 to 20 should be there), could this
 Renaud be modified for the next release of LyX (I will do it for my
 Renaud personnal use).
 
 In fact, the extsizes classes should really support the normal sizes
 too. Do they?

The sizes available are 8pt, 9pt, 10pt, 11pt, 12pt, 14pt, 17pt, and
20pt.

but using one of the standard sizes must not be the same output
like the one from the standard classes.


Herbert

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Re: More than 12pt ?

2001-09-06 Thread Herbert Voss

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
 
  Herbert == Herbert Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   In fact, the extsizes classes should really support the normal
  sizes too. Do they?
 
 Herbert The sizes available are 8pt, 9pt, 10pt, 11pt, 12pt, 14pt,
 Herbert 17pt, and 20pt.
 
 Herbert but using one of the standard sizes must not be the same
 Herbert output like the one from the standard classes.
 
 So why are the 10|11|12 sizes not available in the layout files?

to prevent questions like: why does ... works in article
and not in extarticle?

but it's no problem to make these sizes available, too.

Herbert


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Re: Underlined 16

2001-09-06 Thread Detlev Humann


   Lars Reineke wrote:  Whenever I open a previously saved
  LyX-Dokument, a   blue underlined 16 has  been appended on the
  first line.  What does that mean? And how do I get rid of it? 
  Alessandro Cafarella wrote: I had the same problem and I solved it.
  One of the first lines in the lyx saved file is: \lyxformat 2,16
  (Notice the 16!) If you manually change it in 2.16 each time it
  will work. It's boring but it's so. I think it's due to the fact
  that in some languages (like italian, and, I guess, german) you
  write 0,5 to mean one half, instead of the english use 0.5.
 
  Bye, Alessandro

 Detlev In my humble opinion the easiest way is to put a % in ERT (the
 Detlev comment out command) just in front of the 16. So it won't
 Detlev appear again in your printed doc. Detlev

 Yes, but the risk is that a new one appears when relaoding the
 document. Another solution is to upgrade to 1.1.6fix3 which fixes this
 problems (but is not very stable wrt tables).

 JMarc


O.K. But the new one appears after the older one. In my doc there are dozens
of 16s on the screen but never on the paper.
And I'm glad about the very, very stable version lyx 1.1.5fix1. Great! So I
won't change my running system. :-)
Detlev




Re: More than 12pt ?

2001-09-06 Thread Herbert Voss

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
 
  Herbert == Herbert Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   So why are the 10|11|12 sizes not available in the layout files?
 
 Herbert to prevent questions like: why does ... works in article and
 Herbert not in extarticle?
 
 Are there so many differences between the two classes? I have to admit
 that I do not understand how this could mislead people.

the differences are in titlepage, in part, bibliography. But I can't
tell more, because it's some time ago when I used extsizes. maybe
that these differences are not important ...

Herbert but it's no problem to make these sizes available, too.

 I let you decide what you prefer to do.

let it be ...

Herbert


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Re: Why Lyx?

2001-09-06 Thread Kathryn Andersen

On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 04:45:44PM +0200, Jean-Pierre.Chretien wrote:
 
 Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 22:08:24 +1000
 From: Kathryn Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Why Lyx?
 
 On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 02:30:14AM +0200, Giovanni Tummarello wrote:
  This opens up a question: if you leave alone the fact that lyx is
  free.. and that the underlying latex is supposely bug free. why
  features does lyx offer that word doesnt? (the contrary isnt really to
  be asked :) ) . I mean.. all the manual is boasting about has
  (internal references, footnotes etc etc.. ) are all things that have
  existed for at least 5 years in Word, and the equation editor its the
  same (if not plain better) than the one offered in Lyx. 
 
 existing isn't the same as works well or plays well with others.
 
 (Warning: Tale of Woe follows)
 
 I wish I could use Lyx at work.  Unfortunately the manual for the
 software I work on is required (by the client) to be in Word-readable
 format.  
 
 My colleagues come across this kind of request often, frankly I find
 it hard to understand. 
 
 Does the client want to edit the manuals ?
 If the answer is yes, OK, but if it is no, PDF or HTML are
 much better from the point of view of navigation or indexation
 on the electronic support, anf PDF is equivalent for the paper support.
 
 Do I miss someting there ?

The customer is always right.

They want the manual in electronic format so that they can print it out
themselves.  They've always had it in Word, word is everywhere in their
workplace, they aren't going to install Acrobat Reader just for us.

End of story.

Persuading people to change is hard.  Persuading clients to change is
impossible.

Kathryn Andersen
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Re: Why Lyx?

2001-09-06 Thread Kathryn Andersen

On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 05:46:55PM +0300, Robin Turner wrote:
 On Wednesday 05 September 2001 17:24, John Levon wrote:
  On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 10:08:24PM +1000, Kathryn Andersen wrote:
   One thing that LyX definitely does worse is fonts -- but that's because
   of the limitations of TeX.  Does anyone know if that's ever likely to
   improve?
 
  what do you mean here ?
 
 I wouldn't want to make assumptions about what Kathryn meant, but what _I_ 
 would mean by being bad at fonts is:

Thanks for not assuming, but you hit the nail on the head.
 
 1.  You only get a few fonts pre-installed with your standard TeX/LaTeX 
 distribution (not necessarily a bad thing, though).

Agreed.  After leaving the world of hundreds of TrueType fonts, it's a
rather a letdown.
 
 2.  Although there are some very nice TeXable fonts out there, installing 
 them is about as intuitive as quantum physics.

Say it again, man!  Even with some nice tools like vfontinst, you still
have to mess around in the bowels...
 
 3.  Even if you actually manage to get a new font installed, LyX won't 
 recognise it.

Evil Red Text is required -- that or making your own Style (which is
what I ended up doing).
 
 As I've said before, a very nice feature/plugin for LyX would be a 
 font-installer. My dream would be something that would connect to my nearest 
 CTAN mirror, download the fonts I want, integrate them in my TeX system and 
 add them to the LyX default font popup.

Or simply something that would allow me to use all of my existing
TrueType fonts as easily as I can now use them in X-Windows.
 
 Oh yes, and although I normally decry it as bad typesetting, occasionally it 
 would be nice to have more than one font in the same document.
 
Agreed.  What I've used LyX for, a fanzine, I had two main styles of
body font -- one for prose, and another for poetry.  I used a
script-style font for the poetry.  Obviously most people won't need to
do that, and I agree that less is beautiful and logical markup is King,
but even so...

LyX wasn't actually free -- it cost me $72 (the price of Lamport's LaTeX
book).  Oddly enough, I found the book catalogued under programming
languages.

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Lamport's book

2001-09-06 Thread Steve Litt

On Thursday 06 September 2001 18:51, Kathryn Andersen wrote:

 LyX wasn't actually free -- it cost me $72 (the price of Lamport's LaTeX
 book).  Oddly enough, I found the book catalogued under programming
 languages.

 Kathryn Andersen

Kathryn,

Would you recommend Lamport's book to someone who is writing a book in Lyx 
and needs lots of custom Environments and character styles? Is it 
understandable for someone who, let's put it this way -- doesn't have the 
world's best attention span? Is it well organized? Is there a way to get it 
for less than $72.00? I don't live in a technical metropolis -- where can I 
get it?

Thanks

Steve
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Re: Lamport's book

2001-09-06 Thread Herbert Voss

Steve Litt wrote:
 
 Would you recommend Lamport's book to someone who is writing a book in Lyx
 and needs lots of custom Environments and character styles? Is it
 understandable for someone who, let's put it this way -- doesn't have the
 world's best attention span? Is it well organized? Is there a way to get it
 for less than $72.00? I don't live in a technical metropolis -- where can I
 get it?

take the one from Goossens, Mittelbach, Samarin:
The Latex Companion

much more better (from my point of view)

Herbert

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Chapter format/spacing

2001-09-06 Thread Simon G Hill


Greetings all,
I'm trying to condense a big report to make it as small as possible without 
taking out too many words. I noticed that the Chapter format tends to waste 
heaps of room on a page.

Can someone please let me know how to reduce 
the length from the top of the page to Chapter X,
the length to the Chapter title
and the length to the first bit of text.

Thanks heaps
Simon



Re: Full width tables

2001-09-06 Thread Nicholas Piper

On Wed, 05 Sep 2001, Herbert Voss wrote:

> Nicholas Piper wrote:

> > I don't understand your last line. Could you give me an example or
> > point me to where I might find one ?

> the following all in tex (red)

> \noindent\begin{tabularx}{\textwidth}{|c|X|c|}\hline 
> one & two & three \\ 
> 1 & 2 & 3 \\ 
> a & b & c \\ \hline 
> \end{tabularx}

Ah, so it is still not possible to do this using the LyX table editor?
I suppose I can pass my file through a filter that converts tablular
to tabularx afterwards.

Cheers,

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Re: Full width tables

2001-09-06 Thread Herbert Voss


On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Nicholas Piper wrote:

> > > I don't understand your last line. Could you give me an example or
> > > point me to where I might find one ?
>
> > the following all in tex (red)
>
> > \noindent\begin{tabularx}{\textwidth}{|c|X|c|}\hline
> > one & two & three \\
> > 1 & 2 & 3 \\
> > a & b & c \\ \hline
> > \end{tabularx}
>
> Ah, so it is still not possible to do this using the LyX table editor?
> I suppose I can pass my file through a filter that converts tablular
> to tabularx afterwards.

latest cvs seems to be buggy, but 1.1.6 and ealier should
do the trick. with \renewenvironment{tabular}

Herbert




Rendering of EPS files

2001-09-06 Thread Nick Burgan

Hello All,

I wish to insert some photographs into my LyX document. I have the photos as 
.jpeg originally and I have converted them to .eps (level 2) using the 
Convert package that is part of image magick
ie. convert filename.jpg eps2:filename.eps

When I insert the .eps files into LyX, the image quality is very poor, and 
they look very grainy. In fact the .eps files look very poor in most of the 
image viewers I have on my system. Except for the Display package (part of 
image magick again).

(It doesn't seem to be a problem with figures ie plots, just with 
photograpghs)

I realise that the images will print perfectly but I was looking for a way to 
make them look better 'on screen'.

I guess LyX relies on ghostscript to render the images on screen ?

Is it possible to make LyX use another image rendering 'engine', for example 
the one that Display uses (I have no idea what this is). Display seems to 
render the images much faster also.

Maybe this is a development issue ?

Thanks in advance
Nick

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Postgraduate Student

Active Noise and Vibration Control Group
Department of Mechanical Engineering
University of Adelaide
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More than 12pt ?

2001-09-06 Thread Nicolas SABOURET

Hi !

This is more or less a "latex" question but I suppose I can find an
answer here. I prepare some exams or exercices for 11 to 16y old
students using Lyx and the "article" class.

However, 12pt is still too small for them. The solution I use is to
select the whole document text and to increase the size via the
character window.
This solution has one major problem : the section numbers stay in 12pt,
regular size (which is very small compared to the title, in some case).

Here are my two questions :
1. Is there a way to increase also the size of these numbers (I thought
about \Large{ at the begining of the document, and } at the end, in
latex mode, but I didn't try since it seemed hugly to me).

2. Is there any other class I could use ?

Thanks in advance,
-- 
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http://www.limsi.fr/Individu/nico



Re: More than 12pt ?

2001-09-06 Thread Jean-Pierre.Chretien


>>Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 11:41:53 +0200
>>From: Nicolas SABOURET <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: More than 12pt ?
>>
>>Hi !
>>
>>This is more or less a "latex" question but I suppose I can find an
>>answer here. I prepare some exams or exercices for 11 to 16y old
>>students using Lyx and the "article" class.
>>
>>However, 12pt is still too small for them. The solution I use is to
>>select the whole document text and to increase the size via the
>>character window.
>>This solution has one major problem : the section numbers stay in 12pt,
>>regular size (which is very small compared to the title, in some case).
>>
>>Here are my two questions :
>>1. Is there a way to increase also the size of these numbers (I thought
>>about \Large{ at the begining of the document, and } at the end, in
>>latex mode, but I didn't try since it seemed hugly to me).
>>
>>2. Is there any other class I could use ?
>>
>>Thanks in advance,
>>-- 

An « external » way is to use the magnification option of dvips,
wich can produce en enlarged image of the document (starting with
big margins of course).
The first time you call it with a mag coefficient different from 1000
(yes it's in thousandths), it will take some time for font calculation,
but otherwise I used it with success to build up 11.5 pt sized docs...

-- 
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Re: More than 12pt ?

2001-09-06 Thread Tuukka Toivonen

On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Nicolas SABOURET wrote:

> 2. Is there any other class I could use ?

There is a package "extsizes" that should let you use more font sizes.
Haven't tried it myself though...




Re: More than 12pt ?

2001-09-06 Thread Herbert Voss


On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Nicolas SABOURET wrote:

> This is more or less a "latex" question but I suppose I can find an
> answer here. I prepare some exams or exercices for 11 to 16y old
> students using Lyx and the "article" class.
>
> However, 12pt is still too small for them. The solution I use is to
> select the whole document text and to increase the size via the
> character window.
> This solution has one major problem : the section numbers stay in 12pt,
> regular size (which is very small compared to the title, in some case).
>
> Here are my two questions :
> 1. Is there a way to increase also the size of these numbers (I thought
> about \Large{ at the begining of the document, and } at the end, in
> latex mode, but I didn't try since it seemed hugly to me).
>
> 2. Is there any other class I could use ?

have a look at

http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/fonts/extsizes.html

these classes are part of the latest cvs and maybe 1.1.6fix3

is it right, Jean-Marc??

Herbert




Re: More than 12pt ?

2001-09-06 Thread Nicolas SABOURET

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> 
> > "Herbert" == Herbert Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> Herbert> these classes are part of the latest cvs and maybe 1.1.6fix3
> 
> Herbert> is it right, Jean-Marc??
> 
> Yes, they are part of 1.1.6fix3.
> 
> JMarc

Thanks for your answers. This looks good to me.

Nico.
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Unable to print roman numbered pages

2001-09-06 Thread Detlev Humann



Hi!
The first part of my text is "Roman" numbered, the 
second "arabic". All looks fine on the screen, but the problem is: How can I 
tell my printer to print the roman pages?
If I put e.g. "VII" in the printing menu I get an 
error message like "unable to print ("Es konnte nicht gedruckt 
werden").
If I put arabic numbers in the printing menu I get 
of course the arabic numbered pages printed.
What am I doing wrong?
Thanks in advance!
Detlev
 


Re: Hypertext and PDF

2001-09-06 Thread Beyer, Marcus



Hello Jean-Pierre,

> > Running tex2pdf -r to change the toc 
> > option from yes to no produced en error:
> > pdfTeX error (ext4): link annotations can't be nested.
>
> The option linktocpage is doing nothing else than putting
'linktocpage'
> in the the hyperref parameters. Works here ...

A much better solution than 'linktocpage' is using a newer pdfTeX
version,
as it can now handle nested links!

See also this page from the hyperref mantainer 
http://www.tug.org/pipermail/pdftex/2000-August/006924.html

I tried it, and it works. I send you an example if you want.

Grüße,
Marcus

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Re: Why LyX?

2001-09-06 Thread Joao B. Oliveira

> On Wednesday 05 September 2001 16:09, you wrote:
> > John Levon writes:
> >
> >   I've turned tens of normal students onto lyx instead
> >   of word (even unix-hating students) entirely as a result of the output.
> >
> > Yes, but ...

My two bits:

The effect on my students has been the same. Two years ago we started
pushing them to LaTeX/LyX. At first they were rather reluctant,
but they learned that they can write rather large documents WITHOUT:

1) Getting ridiculously large .doc files

2) Losing all formatting because W*rd gets suddenly insane.

3) Losing pictures, references, numbering, etc due to the same
reasons.

4) blah-blah-blah: all bugs that W*rd has.

In fact, one year ago just one work (out of 20) was written in LyX,
a rather bad record. This year, there were 8 out of 12. Next year
we plan to crush the W*rd users, as people are learning that the
effort to learn a new editor completely pays itself.

Our price to have such results: we had to provide .cls and
.layout files for our written works (took a few days to adapt from
report.cls) and support them. Not such a terrible job.

Our advantage: all written works using such a format seem alike,
and there are NO formatting wars: everyone gets the same results
and nobody cares about "making it more beautiful than the others" or
such a crap. Gluing them all together to produce a volume is simple.

The students notice that they do not have to format their documents
for hours, or produce title pages by themselves, or many other
things that are done automatically. They notice that they are free
to concentrate on the thinking part of their texts.

This is all referent to LyX, but there is a point that specifically
refers to LaTeX: one CAN write programs that automatically produce
LaTeX files as output. I have already done that in my thesis long
ago, and it is a \HUGE satisfaction to have a program that runs
and produces TeX output automatically, formatted and ready to be
included into another document. There is no copy and paste, no
nothing. I have been using this to produce random exercise lists,
so that every student gets different tasks. You just need a lot
of tasks, a program to produce a .tex context around the task to
be done, and run LaTeX automatically. Couldn't be smoother, and in
three minutes I get 50 high-quality documents ready for distribution.

Yes, in this list we have all those little formatting problems:
How do I enlarge this, or reduce that, or insert this other, or
change all of  about this, there are two things that may be said:

-- Solving such things is fun, and one learns a lot from them.

-- There are such discussions because LaTeX allows us to make such
special demands (and we are free to try it), although a typical user
does not need to care about it. Thousands of LyX users don't care.

To sum it up, the best thing is to see a formerly reluctant student
come proudly to you to show the document he has produced, and saying
"This is so much better to work with, and results are better too."

I think this is the joy of doing it all.

jb





Re: Coping and pasting tables from SPSS

2001-09-06 Thread Ronny Buchmann

* Giovanni Tummarello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2001-09-04 19:26] wrote:
> Hello people, i am a student in engeneering trying to use lyx to write my 
> master thesis.
> Although entusiast at the beginning of the journey (leaving "Word" behind 
> seemed so attractive) i am now loosing entusiasm over the inability to import 
> objects (tables, graphs etc..) from other applications as well as the apparent 
> impossibility to really decide where things should go.
> 
> Needless to say i am working on a windows 2000 environment.
this is not lyx's fault ;)

> 
> Example.. i am using SPSS (very advanced statistical program) and it produces 
> graphs and tables. Graphs i can export to EPS and therefore have them in my lyx 
> document, no problems about that. but what about tables?? tables dont offer the 
> "export to eps" option and there seem to be no way to include them in lyx 
> without COMPLETELY REWRITING THEM (which is not an option since i have several 
> tables filled with values). Of course if i open Word .. all i have to do is a 
> copy/paste sequence and the table appairs in that environmanent as well. .ready 
> to be nicely included. 
if you can export to excel (or copy to excel) you can use xl2latex from ctan
 
-- 
ronny



Re: More than 12pt ?

2001-09-06 Thread Renaud MICHEL

Le Jeudi 6 Septembre 2001 12:28, vous avez écrit :
> > "Herbert" == Herbert Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Herbert> these classes are part of the latest cvs and maybe 1.1.6fix3
>
> Herbert> is it right, Jean-Marc??
>
> Yes, they are part of 1.1.6fix3.

Installed extsizes and reconfigured LyX and it work, but the only sizes 
avaible from the document dialog are 8 9 14 17 20, this is too few, there 
should be also at least 11 and 12 (perhaps every size from 8 to 20 should be 
there), could this be modified for the next release of LyX (I will do it for 
my personnal use).

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le coeur des disciples, dans un grand silence attentif,
comme cette huile rousse de mes collines qui coule du
pressoir dans la jarre par un long fil d'or immobile,
sans faire de bulles, sans faire de bruit.
Marcel Pagnol.

Renaud MICHEL



Re: Unable to print roman numbered pages

2001-09-06 Thread Renaud MICHEL

Le Jeudi 6 Septembre 2001 12:57, vous avez écrit :
> Hi!
> The first part of my text is "Roman" numbered, the second "arabic". All
> looks fine on the screen, but the problem is: How can I tell my printer to
> print the roman pages? If I put e.g. "VII" in the printing menu I get an
> error message like "unable to print ("Es konnte nicht gedruckt werden"). If
> I put arabic numbers in the printing menu I get of course the arabic
> numbered pages printed. What am I doing wrong?
> Thanks in advance!
> Detlev

You can try to preview with ghostview and from there to select all the pages 
you want to print and send them to you printer from gv itself, to do so gv 
will ask for the command it should use to print this is generally lpr and you 
must use the -PNameOfPrinter option (note that there are no spaces between 
the name of the printer and the -P, for me this gives lpr -PHP660c).

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  linux-fr et persone ne m'aidait!
<|ZeNon|> merci a tous

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Renaud MICHEL



Re: More than 12pt ?

2001-09-06 Thread Andre Poenitz

On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 01:28:06PM +0200, Renaud MICHEL wrote:
> Installed extsizes and reconfigured LyX and it work, but the only sizes 
> avaible from the document dialog are 8 9 14 17 20, this is too few, there 
> should be also at least 11 and 12 (perhaps every size from 8 to 20 should be 
> there), could this be modified for the next release of LyX (I will do it for 
> my personnal use).

11 and 12 are available without extra packages...

Andre'

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Re: More than 12pt ?

2001-09-06 Thread Renaud MICHEL

Le Jeudi 6 Septembre 2001 13:51, vous avez écrit :
> On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 01:28:06PM +0200, Renaud MICHEL wrote:
> > Installed extsizes and reconfigured LyX and it work, but the only sizes
> > avaible from the document dialog are 8 9 14 17 20, this is too few, there
> > should be also at least 11 and 12 (perhaps every size from 8 to 20 should
> > be there), could this be modified for the next release of LyX (I will do
> > it for my personnal use).
>
> 11 and 12 are available without extra packages...

Sure, but this would be more consistant if you can access it also from the 
extra packages (for example if you need to make two different versions of the 
document, one that is normal size and one that is bigger). I have modified it 
to 8 9 11 12 14 16 18 20 for more fine tuning (but this is personnal opinion).

-- 
Virginité, comme ballons de baudruche: une piqûre, pfffuit, envolés. 
Confucius 

Renaud MICHEL



Re: Underlined "16"

2001-09-06 Thread Alessandro Cafarella


Lars Reineke wrote:
> Whenever I open a previously saved LyX-Dokument, a >
> blue underlined "16" has 
> been appended on the first line.
> What does that mean? And how do I get rid of it?

I had the same problem and I solved it.
One of the first lines in the lyx saved file is:
\lyxformat 2,16
(Notice the 16!)
If you manually change it in 2.16 each time it will
work. It's boring but it's so.
I think it's due to the fact that in some languages
(like italian, and, I guess, german) you write 0,5 to
mean one half, instead of the english use 0.5.

Bye, Alessandro

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Re: Unable to print roman numbered pages

2001-09-06 Thread Herbert Voss

> Detlev Humann wrote:
> 
> The first part of my text is "Roman" numbered, the second "arabic".
> All looks fine on the screen, but the problem is: How can I tell my
> printer to print the roman pages?
> If I put e.g. "VII" in the printing menu I get an error message like
> "unable to print ("Es konnte nicht gedruckt werden").
> If I put arabic numbers in the printing menu I get of course the
> arabic numbered pages printed.
> What am I doing wrong?

pagenumbering and counting the pages are two different things:

- pagenumbering may vary in the doc
- counting of the pages begins always at 1 and than increases  

in the printmenu insert the numbers how the pages are
counted, for example 2 to 4 are the second to the forth,
independent from your pagenumberstyle

Herbert

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http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/





Re: Rendering of EPS files

2001-09-06 Thread John Levon

On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 06:58:41PM +0930, Nick Burgan wrote:

> I guess LyX relies on ghostscript to render the images on screen ?

that's correct.

> Is it possible to make LyX use another image rendering 'engine', for example 
> the one that Display uses (I have no idea what this is). Display seems to 
> render the images much faster also.
> 
> Maybe this is a development issue ?

the forthcoming 1.2.0 release uses ImageMagick (Display) to convert and
display the variety of image formats.

regards
john

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Re: Rendering of EPS files

2001-09-06 Thread Steve Litt

Hi Nick,

As I remember, when you convert to .eps you get a chance to declare a 
preview, which is a sort of thumbnail of the image in a different format. 
Perhaps you could use that to accomplish what you need. Try saving a .eps in 
Gimp, and notice the preview checkbox and preview size field.

Steve
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On Thursday 06 September 2001 05:28, Nick Burgan wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I wish to insert some photographs into my LyX document. I have the photos
> as .jpeg originally and I have converted them to .eps (level 2) using the
> Convert package that is part of image magick
> ie. convert filename.jpg eps2:filename.eps
>
> When I insert the .eps files into LyX, the image quality is very poor, and
> they look very grainy. In fact the .eps files look very poor in most of the
> image viewers I have on my system. Except for the Display package (part of
> image magick again).
>
> (It doesn't seem to be a problem with figures ie plots, just with
> photograpghs)
>
> I realise that the images will print perfectly but I was looking for a way
> to make them look better 'on screen'.
>
> I guess LyX relies on ghostscript to render the images on screen ?
>
> Is it possible to make LyX use another image rendering 'engine', for
> example the one that Display uses (I have no idea what this is). Display
> seems to render the images much faster also.
>
> Maybe this is a development issue ?
>
> Thanks in advance
> Nick
> 
> Nick Burgan
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>
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> Department of Mechanical Engineering
> University of Adelaide
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>
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Re: Unable to print roman numbered pages

2001-09-06 Thread Detlev Humann



Thanks, Michel! Thanks, Herbert!It's O.K. Now I 
see the difference between counting and numbering the pages.I should have 
told that I have twice pages numbered 1-14, once roman andonce arabic 
(because of \setcounter{1} after the first part)So the economic way of 
printing only the roman pages is using gv.Detlev


Re: Underlined "16"

2001-09-06 Thread Detlev Humann



>
> Lars Reineke wrote:
> > Whenever I open a previously saved LyX-Dokument, a >
> > blue underlined "16" has
> > been appended on the first line.
> > What does that mean? And how do I get rid of it?
> >
> Alessandro Cafarella wrote:
> I had the same problem and I solved it.
> One of the first lines in the lyx saved file is:
> \lyxformat 2,16
> (Notice the 16!)
> If you manually change it in 2.16 each time it will
> work. It's boring but it's so.
> I think it's due to the fact that in some languages
> (like italian, and, I guess, german) you write 0,5 to
> mean one half, instead of the english use 0.5.
>
> Bye, Alessandro

In my humble opinion the easiest way is to put a % in ERT (the "comment out"
command) just in front of  the "16". So it won't appear again in your
printed doc.
Detlev





Letterhead?

2001-09-06 Thread Paul Lussier


Hi all,

Can someone provide a pointer to me as to how I can create letterhead 
with a logo on it?  I know I seen this documented somewhere, I just 
can't seem to remeber where.

Thanks,


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Seeya,
Paul

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and we never stop trying to be better. 
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Re: Letterhead?

2001-09-06 Thread rick

> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Can someone provide a pointer to me as to how I can create letterhead 
> with a logo on it?  I know I seen this documented somewhere, I just 
> can't seem to remeber where.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Seeya,
> Paul 

We are a lyx positive company, or at least a lyx positive beachhead in a company.  Try 
looking here:  http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/%7evoss/lyx/titlepage/background.html

Rick

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Re: Chapter format/spacing

2001-09-06 Thread Herbert Voss

Simon G Hill wrote:
> 
> I'm trying to condense a big report to make it as small as possible without
> taking out too many words. I noticed that the Chapter format tends to waste
> heaps of room on a page.
> 
> Can someone please let me know how to reduce
> the length from the top of the page to Chapter X,
> the length to the Chapter title
> and the length to the first bit of text.

have a look at package secsty

HErbert

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