Re: lyx 2.3.7 running on a Mac Ventura 13.6.1

[mark salmon]

Hi Anders, and everyone else interested-- everything appears to now be 
working perfectly thanks again Anders. I have the same set up now as you 
described you have and all is working ok in Beamer as well- phew! I have 
no problems with slowness- I think this might have to do with Mac OS 14+ 
requiring more from the machine- if it is underpowered for OS 14 then 
everything demanding - not just Lyx slows down.

touch wood! thanks again Anders!
A presto,
Mark

On 10/01/2024 14:12, markhsalmon wrote:
Thank you Anders thanks a million- I am using Beamer so we shall see! 
But you have given me the courage to jump- wish me well-  happy new 
year- I hope.
Ps. Cambridge has just bought all faculty and in fact students 
licences for Overleaf professional which is the alternative now … I 
want to continue with Lyx but the lack of proper Mac support is making 
this decision difficult.


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On 10 Jan 2024, at 13:25, Anders Ekberg  wrote:

 On 10 Jan 2024, at 13:35, mark salmon  wrote:


An urgent request for advice please. My apologies but I dropped of 
the edge of the planet for some time- and have slowly been able to 
get back in gear.when I was last active there were problems - 
both graphics and slowness running Lyx on Macs with Ventura. I last 
understood the graphics problem had been resolved in the latest 
version of Lyx 2.4??? beta but that this beta had problems with 
Ventura above13.6.1. The latest MacOS is Sonoma 14.. DO I 
RISK UPDATING MY MAC OS and ARE THERE CONTINUING PROBLEMS WITH LYX 
13.6.1- graphics insert and slowdown??
I have lecture notes to write for Monday next week and cannot risk 
making a mistake- DO I UPDATE MY SYSTEM AND LYX???  PLEASE!!


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Hi Mark
I run LyX 2.4.0 b5 with MacTeX 2023 and Inkscape 1.3.2 on MacOSX 
14.2.1 on my production (writing notes, compendia etc but very seldom 
using beamer) computer (MacBook Pro 2019). Works fine, but of course 
no guarantee it will for you…


/Anders


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lyx 2.3.7 running on a Mac Ventura 13.6.1

[mark salmon]

An urgent request for advice please. My apologies but I dropped of the 
edge of the planet for some time- and have slowly been able to get back 
in gear.when I was last active there were problems - both graphics 
and slowness running Lyx on Macs with Ventura. I last understood the 
graphics problem had been resolved in the latest version of Lyx 2.4??? 
beta but that this beta had problems with Ventura above13.6.1. The 
latest MacOS is Sonoma 14.. DO I RISK UPDATING MY MAC OS and ARE 
THERE CONTINUING PROBLEMS WITH LYX 13.6.1- graphics insert and slowdown??
I have lecture notes to write for Monday next week and cannot risk 
making a mistake- DO I UPDATE MY SYSTEM AND LYX???  PLEASE!!


thanks
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Re: [EXTERNAL] ImageMagick

[mark salmon]

Ok Thanks Stephan

On 09/03/2023 16:12, Stephan Witt wrote:

Am 09.03.2023 um 08:47 schrieb markhsalmon:

Surely this applies for Mac versions as well? Hasn’t Ventura dropped 
ImageMagick? I thought I read this here some time ago and might be the problem 
with inserting graphics into Documents on Mac system?

Hi Mark,

IMO this isn’t related. ImageMagick isn’t bundled with LyX for macOS. I’ve 
checked the status of ImageMagick for macports. Ventura seems to be supported.

BR,
Stephan


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On 7 Mar 2023, at 21:00, Yu Jin  wrote:


Am Mi., 1. März 2023 um 23:21 Uhr schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck:
On 3/1/23 16:27, Salazar, Derek Gonzalo wrote:

Yes, for Windows.

CCing Eugene, then, our Windows package manager.

Sure, I'll update that next time.
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Reconfigure from script

[Mark Livingstone]

Hi People,

I am using LyX 2.3.7 on Mac OS Ventura.

Is it possible to run reconfigure from script in the terminal, if so how?

Thanks in advance,

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Missing fonts in list

[Mark Rudolph]

When I go to Document —> Settings —> Fonts, no fonts are listed in any of the 
three pull down lists (Roman, Sans Serif, Typewriter).

I’m using the following version for the ARM chip on an M2 computer.

Version 2.4.0-beta2
(December 11, 2022)

Qt Version (run-time): 6.4.1 on platform cocoa
Qt Version (compile-time): 6.4.1
OS Version (run-time): macOS 13.2
Python detected: python3 -tt

Any help would be appreciated!

Thank you,

Mark R.


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Re: Ventura graphics Mac

[mark salmon]

THANK YOU! Stephan
best
Mark

On 25/01/2023 11:39, Stephan Witt wrote:

Hi all,

another report with a similar problem is 
here:https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/10047

Now I could reproduce the problem on Ventura 13.2. It is the LyX:Graphics 
dialog not being on anymore after click on Open.

I’ve placed a series of images to demonstrate the issue here:
https://my.hidrive.com/share/cgcp53ay2p

To workaround the issue please place the LyX:Graphics popup slightly above or 
below the lyx main window to have the opportunity to get it frontmost again.

I’ll have a look for a fix to this problem. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Best regards,
Stephan


Am 21.01.2023 um 22:16 schrieb markhsalmon:

This works for me- I think - I have to physically put the file location  in the 
graphic insert box and not use browse and it gets the graphics file now. On 
screen looks fuzzy but formats perfectly in pdf. I upgraded to Ventura at the 
same time as upgrading to 2.3.7 which was dumb but this looks more like a file 
location recognition issue now to me. Thanks so much for your help - it’s not 
solved but a work around exists which is an enormous relief- Thanks! This 
surely must be a Lyx issue … with Ventura. I had to upgrade to Ventura for 
other reasons related to Dropbox.
Thanks again
Mark


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On 21 Jan 2023, at 21:02, Christopher Menzel  wrote:


Udi wrote:

I think this bug is already reported here, it seems that you can enter the Unix file path 
into the "File:" field manually.

It's not a perfect solution, but it might solve your problem in the meantime.

Can confirm.

This definitely appears to be a Ventura thing. I can’t insert graphics on my 
2021 MacBook Pro using either 2.3.6.2 or 2.3.7 but both versions work just fine 
on my old iMac under Big Sur. You can mitigate the pain of the kludgy 
workaround a little bit by locating your desired graphic in the Finder, right 
clicking and selecting “Get Info”. This will bring up an info window that 
contains the full Unix path to the containing directory that you can copy and 
paste into the “file:”  field in the LyX pop-up for inserting graphics. You’ll 
still have to type in the file name, but the process is still easier than 
typing in the whole path, especially if you use cloud storage, which buries 
your files pretty deeply under your home directory.

Alternatively, run LyX under Linux in a Parallels VM — it’s quite a bit faster 
than the MacOS universal binary and doesn’t suffer from this bug.

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Re: Problems with LyX on Mac computers

[mark salmon]

PLease ignore my email below from last night regarding  my inablity to 
copy and paste from a PDF file into Lyx with Mac Ventura and Lyx 2.3.7- 
this was a tired error on my part after a long day struggling to get to 
lectures written- I simply confused command V with Control V on the Mac. 
It does work as it whould if I hit the correct keys. However the 
graphics issue still remains. Could this be due the the version of 
Python I have installed? Which Python version does Lyx require on the 
Mac please? How can I check and re-install. I thought I had the Xcode 
version but may  have Anaconda 3.7- but I am ignorant of these issues. 
Any ideas please?

Many many thanks so far,
Mark

On 23/01/2023 08:46, markhsalmon wrote:

Hi Stephan
I hit another problem last night and gave up but will try and replicate it 
again in the next hour when back in my office. I could not copy and paste text 
from a pdf document into Lyx as was trivial before. I am the person who cannot 
insert graphics via the normal insert graphics route but can by inserting the 
graphics file location. Latest version of Lyx and Ventura 13.1. This new 
problem is similar in that I can still with my mouse select the text from the 
pdf document and place the cursor where I want it in the Lyx document but now 
have to click paste from the menu and it works. I have to double check this 
when I get back to my office. I saw somewhere on the web something I didn’t 
understand that I” imagemagick was missing
Thank you for your help but this is really serious as I am in the middle of 
teaching and trying to prepare lecture slides.
Many thanks
Mark



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On 22 Jan 2023, at 21:27, Stephan Witt  wrote:

Hi all,

unfortunately there is some problem with the LyX binaries on macOS Ventura. I 
built these binaries including the Qt frameworks. At the moment I don’t have 
the option to investigate the problem because I didn’t upgrade the build system 
(yet).

The Universal binary was build on Big Sur and requires at least macOS 10.14. 
For those unable to update to Mojave (10.14) I made an Intel binary for macOS 
10.12 or newer.

I have no idea what the cause of the Ventura file open dialog is. My plan is to 
update the build system to macOS 13.x - so it should be possible to solve the 
problem then.

Best regards,
Stephan


Am 22.01.2023 um 21:09 schrieb Edwin Burmeister:

Sorry, I did not realize that the current binary for LyX 2.3.7 is a Universal 
application. That is what I have been using.

So apparently the problems encountered by Mac users are NOT due to Rosetta as I 
had wrongly guessed.

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On Jan 22, 2023, at 2:10 PM, Christopher Menzel  wrote:

On Jan 22, 2023, at 10:48 AM, mark salmon  wrote:

Marcus in your reply to Ed Burmeister you said there are 2 installers for Lyx 
2.3.7- for macs- one for old and one for new versions of MacOS .I don't 
think I saw this when installing 2.3.7 I just chose the one option I saw in 
front of me-

The two installers are not for older and newer versions of MacOS, they are for 
older and newer Macs — older machines have Intel chips while newer machines 
have Apple Silicon (M1 and M2 chips). The installer for the universal LyX 
binary, which will run on either platform, includes the string “x86_64-arm64”; 
the installer for the Intel-only binary only includes the substring “x86_64”. 
In fact, both installers and both binaries will run on both older and newer 
machines (although, of course, the Intel binary requires the mediation of 
Rosetta on Apple Silicon machines). I suppose the Intel-only binary is a bit 
smaller and perhaps runs a bit faster on an Intel Mac, but would think the 
differences would be negligible (but I could be wrong).


could this be the source of the graphics problem?

No. The problem arises under Ventura no matter which LyX binary you use.

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Re: Problems with LyX on Mac computers

[mark salmon]

Marcus in your reply to Ed Burmeister you said there are 2 installers 
for Lyx 2.3.7- for macs- one for old and one for new versions of MacOS 
.I don't think I saw this when installing 2.3.7 I just chose the one 
option I saw in front of me- could this be the source of the graphics 
problem?

Cheers,
Mark

On 22/01/2023 16:08, Edwin Burmeister wrote:
My apologies, I made a typo in my original message. I AM using LyX 
version 2.3.7 and all of my previous comments and questions apply to it.


Sorry for my mistake!

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On Jan 22, 2023, at 11:03 AM, Marcus Kriele  wrote:

Ed, have you tried LyX 2.3.7, which came out very recently?  I 
believe it is  universal, if you take the correct installer (there 
are two to choose from, one for old versions of MacOS and one for the 
newer ones which support arm.


Regards, Marcus


On 22 Jan 2023, at 16:58, Edwin Burmeister  wrote:

Hi—

I am using Mac OS Ventura 13.1 and LyX version 2.2.7.

Many Mac users have reported problems with LyX when using Ventura. I 
too have encountered difficulties, but fortunately I’ve been able to 
find workarounds for all of them. However, behavior is erratic: 
sometimes it works and sometimes it does not. I’ve had to resort to 
trying different workaround strategies that seem to depend upon 
exactly where my LyX related files are located.


You probably know this information from Apple, but I repeat it here 
for completeness:


*Rosetta works automatically in the background whenever you use an 
app that was built only for Mac computers with an Intel processor*. 
It translates the app for use with Apple silicon. In most cases, you 
won't notice any difference in the performance of an app that needs 
Rosetta. May 17, 2022


In my opinion most and perhaps all of the problems LyX users have 
encountered on a Mac can be traced back to Rosetta.


The ideal solution is to have an update to LyX that makes it a 
so-called Universal application, i.e., one that works equally well 
on both Intel and Apple silicon chips. [In any event, this solution 
will be needed in the future because Apple is likely to stop its 
support via Rosetta.]


Is such an update to LyX in the works?
If so, when might we expect to see it?
If not, why not?

Danke!

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Re: Problems with LyX on Mac computers

[mark salmon]

Hi Ed again,
 Could you possibly try inserting a graphic into a document- I know 
nothing... I am a simple econometrician but it seems to me if some 
people have this graphics problem and others don't with superficially 
the same set up, it may be down to different ways we have handled 
Python- Apple, Homebrew, Anaconda? Does this make sense people?

Cheers ,
Mark

On 22/01/2023 16:08, Edwin Burmeister wrote:
My apologies, I made a typo in my original message. I AM using LyX 
version 2.3.7 and all of my previous comments and questions apply to it.


Sorry for my mistake!

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On Jan 22, 2023, at 11:03 AM, Marcus Kriele  wrote:

Ed, have you tried LyX 2.3.7, which came out very recently?  I 
believe it is  universal, if you take the correct installer (there 
are two to choose from, one for old versions of MacOS and one for the 
newer ones which support arm.


Regards, Marcus


On 22 Jan 2023, at 16:58, Edwin Burmeister  wrote:

Hi—

I am using Mac OS Ventura 13.1 and LyX version 2.2.7.

Many Mac users have reported problems with LyX when using Ventura. I 
too have encountered difficulties, but fortunately I’ve been able to 
find workarounds for all of them. However, behavior is erratic: 
sometimes it works and sometimes it does not. I’ve had to resort to 
trying different workaround strategies that seem to depend upon 
exactly where my LyX related files are located.


You probably know this information from Apple, but I repeat it here 
for completeness:


*Rosetta works automatically in the background whenever you use an 
app that was built only for Mac computers with an Intel processor*. 
It translates the app for use with Apple silicon. In most cases, you 
won't notice any difference in the performance of an app that needs 
Rosetta. May 17, 2022


In my opinion most and perhaps all of the problems LyX users have 
encountered on a Mac can be traced back to Rosetta.


The ideal solution is to have an update to LyX that makes it a 
so-called Universal application, i.e., one that works equally well 
on both Intel and Apple silicon chips. [In any event, this solution 
will be needed in the future because Apple is likely to stop its 
support via Rosetta.]


Is such an update to LyX in the works?
If so, when might we expect to see it?
If not, why not?

Danke!

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Re: Problems with LyX on Mac computers

[mark salmon]

Hi Ed,
 One academic to another- I have a problem in that I can  ( in Lyx 
2.3.7) no longer browse for the graph in the dialog box when wanting to 
insert graphics into a document- I am using Lyx 2.3.7 not 2.2.7. which 
you are using. The assumption people have made is that it is a ventura 
13.1 problem however if you can browse and insert graphics with the same 
Ventura as myself but  using Lyx 2.2.7 it must be a Lyx problem. It 
would be really helpful to know where the problem lies if you could give 
it a try please. I can work around this by copying and pasting the 
location of the graphics file into the location box but I lost 2 days of 
my life over the last few days trying to solve this!

Cheers,
Mark

On 22/01/2023 15:58, Edwin Burmeister wrote:

Hi—

I am using Mac OS Ventura 13.1 and LyX version 2.2.7.


Many Mac users have reported problems with LyX when using Ventura. I 
too have encountered difficulties, but fortunately I’ve been able to 
find workarounds for all of them. However, behavior is erratic: 
sometimes it works and sometimes it does not. I’ve had to resort to 
trying different workaround strategies that seem to depend upon 
exactly where my LyX related files are located.



You probably know this information from Apple, but I repeat it here 
for completeness:



*Rosetta works automatically in the background whenever you use an app 
that was built only for Mac computers with an Intel processor*. It 
translates the app for use with Apple silicon. In most cases, you 
won't notice any difference in the performance of an app that needs 
Rosetta. May 17, 2022



In my opinion most and perhaps all of the problems LyX users have 
encountered on a Mac can be traced back to Rosetta.



The ideal solution is to have an update to LyX that makes it a 
so-called Universal application, i.e., one that works equally well on 
both Intel and Apple silicon chips. [In any event, this solution 
will be needed in the future because Apple is likely to stop its 
support via Rosetta.]



Is such an update to LyX in the works?

If so, when might we expect to see it?

If not, why not?


Danke!


Ed

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Ventura graphics Mac

[mark salmon]

I have just upgraded to ventura on an Imac- as far as I know I have 
resolved the gatekeeper and python issues but one problem remains- if 
anyone can help me please? I can no longer insert graphics in lyx 
documents- this is critical for my lecture notes and really urgent. I do 
example the same as before and am running with lyx 2.3.7 and ventura 13.1.
 Graphics already within the document are not affected  and still there 
but I can no longer browse and click on the graphic to get ta new graph 
copied into the Lyx document!! Seems to be a problem with Lyx /ventura 
not recognising the clicked link??? any help please please.

Thank you
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Re: Acrobat pdf

[mark salmon]

Thank you very much El! just and apologies forthe slow response - what I 
needed and apologies for the slow response- a strange day -walking in 
the sunshine all day! A weird experience that used to be normal!

Will try it now and thanks again
Mark

On 20/05/2022 08:25, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:

Assuming this is on the Mac:

Click on any PDF and then issue CMD-I. Then change the "Open-With"
Pulldown do whatever viewer you want but click on "Change-All"

Then in Lyx you can use "open" as the viewer.

PDF Expert is very nice and powerful but I like Skim for day-to-day by
the way.

greetings, el

On 2022-05-19 14:24 , Kornel Benko wrote:

Am Thu, 19 May 2022 12:33:49 +0100
schrieb mark salmon :


Thank you Kornel- when I get to Viewer ( for pdflatex) it gives me
only 2 options- None or Custom- alongside Custom in another box it
also has " auto".  No mention of PDF Expert or in fact Adobe
Acrobat--what do I haver to do now to make lyx use PDF Expert??
Cheers,
Mark



Use custom and fill the box with the path to your favourite pdf
viewer.  You may not need the full path, if your pdf-viewer is
directly accessible.


On 19/05/2022 12:04, Kornel Benko wrote:

Am Thu, 19 May 2022 11:50:20 +0100
schrieb mark salmon:

I have moved away from Adobe Acrobat for PDFs as there are many
alternatives that are substantially cheaper and in fact in many
cases better.  However as my Adobe licence has just run out it
seems I can no longer generate PDF documents- I get the pdf in
acrobat but I can't access it as an adobe page comes up asking me
to re-licence Acrobat but I want to continue using PDFexpert
instead- How do I change the preferences with Lyx to stop it
assuming I am using Adobe Acrobat for PDFs and instead use
PDFExpert for pdf output?
Many thanks,
Mark

Select
Tools->Preferences->File Handling->File Formats->Format
    Select there the relevant PDF output, e.g. 'PDF (pdflatex)'
    and select the Viewer to what you desire.

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Re: Acrobat pdf

[mark salmon]

Thank you Kornel- when I get to Viewer ( for pdflatex) it gives me only 
2 options- None or Custom- alongside Custom  in another box it also has 
" auto". No mention of PDF Expert or in fact Adobe Acrobat--what do I 
haver to do now to make lyx use PDF Expert??

Cheers,
Mark

On 19/05/2022 12:04, Kornel Benko wrote:

Am Thu, 19 May 2022 11:50:20 +0100
schrieb mark salmon:


I have moved away from Adobe Acrobat for PDFs as there are many
alternatives that are substantially cheaper and in fact in many cases
better. However as my Adobe licence has just run out it seems I can no
longer generate PDF documents- I get the pdf  in acrobat but I can't
access it as an adobe page comes up asking me to re-licence Acrobat but
I want to  continue using PDFexpert instead- How do I change the
preferences with Lyx to stop it assuming I am using Adobe Acrobat for
PDFs and instead use PDFExpert for pdf output?
Many thanks,
Mark

Select
Tools->Preferences->File Handling->File Formats->Format
Select there the relevant PDF output, e.g. 'PDF (pdflatex)'
and select the Viewer to what you desire.

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Acrobat pdf

[mark salmon]

I have moved away from Adobe Acrobat for PDFs as there are many 
alternatives that are substantially cheaper and in fact in many cases 
better. However as my Adobe licence has just run out it seems I can no 
longer generate PDF documents- I get the pdf  in acrobat but I can't 
access it as an adobe page comes up asking me to re-licence Acrobat but 
I want to  continue using PDFexpert instead- How do I change the 
preferences with Lyx to stop it assuming I am using Adobe Acrobat for 
PDFs and instead use PDFExpert for pdf output?

Many thanks,
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How to set image resolution in LyXHTML export?

[Mark van Rossum]

Hi

I export my LyX file with PDF images to LyXHTML.
However, the resolution is too low.

How can I change it?


In exports to other formats, the resolution is good.


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Error File '/var/folders/lw/lwhvvr995qd496m04pr11sp80000gn/T/lyx_tmpdir.zuVLBxb13258/lyx_tmpbuf0/Diss121.tex' was not closed properly.

[Mark Hempelmann]

Dear Lyx-Wizards,

I researched on above error and the closest I got was the discussion between 
Wolfgang and Jürgen in 2010. However, my text compiled fine with Lyx 2.1.5, now 
with the 2.2.3 update I get above error. I’m using German characters, don’t 
know where to find the encoding, though, I thought it was Latin1 or UTF8.

I’m completely lost as where to start looking at, I cannot remove all my 
„Umlaute“ or the like. I’m using bibdesk for literature. Here is my preamble:


\usepackage[backend=biber,style=philosophy-modern,natbib=true]{biblatex}
\usepackage{amsmath}
\usepackage{amssymb}% für mathbb
\usepackage{marginnote} % Randnotizen
\usepackage{ragged2e}
\usepackage{blindtext} % Lorem ipsum
\usepackage{lipsum}

\addbibresource{/Users/mhem23/Documents/Uni/Dissertation/Bibliothek/bibdesk/DissBib3.bib}

\setlength{\marginparwidth}{2,5cm}  % setze Randnotizbreite
\renewcommand*{\marginfont}{\footnotesize \bfseries}
\let\marginpar\marginnote   % \marginpar ist jetzt identisch mit \marginnote

\usepackage{xcolor}
\usepackage[framemethod=tikz]{mdframed} % für Absatzboxen aller Art
\usepackage{longtable, array}

Please help me along, it worked with my old Lyx!

Thank you very much
mark

Re: LyX update loses settings.

[Mark, K5AM]

Thanks, Uwe. That worked fine.

Mark


On 2016-10-20 11:00, Uwe Stöhr wrote:

The user settings will not be deleted if you don't explicitly trigger this.


 So you can safely install LyX 2.2.2 over 2.2.0 without problems and 
you user settings will stay untouched.


Regards Uwe
  Original Message

Re: LyX update loses settings.

[Mark, K5AM]

Thanks, Stephan. That worked fine.

Mark


On 2016-10-20 04:44, Stephan Witt wrote:

Am 16.10.2016 um 20:07 schrieb Mark, K5AM <k...@zianet.com>:



Hi Stephan,

Thank you for considering this problem.

I am using LyX Version 2.2.0. I am reluctant to update to
the new version, since it was so much trouble to redo the
settings last time.

Windows 7 Pro 64.

The settings I needed to redo:
Paths in Preferences
Location of pwl_english.dict
Some special keys that I set
Shortcut keys that I set
Colors
Other items that I may have forgotten,
but usually find out about soon enough.

Mark


Hi Mark,

LyX on Windows saves the preferences in a version specific directory, IMO.
The "About LyX“ dialog should tell you the location. Make a note where it is
before doing the upgrade. You may try to restore your settings from there after
the upgrade. Compare the files in the two different directories and adjust
them accordingly.

I hope it works as I’m not on Windows. I’ve CCed Uwe Stöhr - perhaps he
can tell you more or a simpler solution.

Stephan



On 2016-10-16 11:01, Stephan Witt wrote:

Am 15.10.2016 um 22:08 schrieb Mark <k...@zianet.com>:


LyX update loses settings.

Is there an easy way to save settings, and restore after an update?


Hi Mark,

it’s not clear what version and on which platform you’re using LyX.

Stephan

Re: LyX update loses settings.

[Mark, K5AM]

Hi Stephan,

Thank you for considering this problem.

I am using LyX Version 2.2.0. I am reluctant to update to
the new version, since it was so much trouble to redo the
settings last time.

Windows 7 Pro 64.

The settings I needed to redo:
Paths in Preferences
Location of pwl_english.dict
Some special keys that I set
Shortcut keys that I set
Colors
Other items that I may have forgotten,
but usually find out about soon enough.

Mark

On 2016-10-16 11:01, Stephan Witt wrote:

Am 15.10.2016 um 22:08 schrieb Mark <k...@zianet.com>:


LyX update loses settings.

Is there an easy way to save settings, and restore after an update?


Hi Mark,

it’s not clear what version and on which platform you’re using LyX.

Stephan

LyX update loses settings.

[Mark]

LyX update loses settings.

Is there an easy way to save settings, and restore after an update?

Re: LyX Win7 package install fails because Miktex install fails.

[Mark Kortink]

Thanks Richard

On each reinstall I deleted all residual directories. BUT I have solved the
problem. After uninstall I searched the registry for references to LyX and
Miktex and found a few. I couldn't delete them, I think because I am on a
work computer and everything is locked down. I did notice references to
Miketx 2.9 and also to mpm.exe, the package manger.

So I decided to reinstall the LyX package and change the directory name for
Miktex from ../Miktex 2.9 to ../Miktex  ignoring the note from the Lyx
installer not to change any Miktex defaults. This worked.

There is an article on this problem at
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/97296/lyx-miktex-installation-problems-on-windows-7


Regards

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 6:23 AM, Richard Heck <rgh...@lyx.org> wrote:

> On 08/02/2016 09:30 PM, Mark Kortink wrote:
>
> Hi. I had LyX 2.2.0 (LyX-220-Bundle-3) running on a brand new Win 7 laptop
> but for various reasons to do with not being able to generate pdfs and
> missing .sty files I decided to uninstall and reinstall.
>
>
>
> The 2.2.0 reinstallation then failed on several attempts, so I tried
> uninstalling that and installing 2.1.4 (LyX-2.1.4-Bundle-1) downloaded from
> LyX.org. Same problem. What happens is
>
> 1)   LyX seems to be installing fine, gets to the point where it says to
> install Miktex, that seems to be installing fine as well.
>
> 2)   The MikTex install seems to almost run to the end then fails with
> “The operation failed for some reason” message.
>
> 3)   Clicking OK there is an Miktex install failed message.
>
> 4)   Clicking OK there is a “No LaTeX distribution could be found”
> message .
>
> 5)   LyX tries to abort but hangs when it tries to delete the main LyX
> directory.
>
>
> The error log which I assume is recording what happened at step 2 above
> says:-
>
> 2016-08-03 11:12:28,372+1000 INFO  initexmf - starting: MiKTeX
> Configuration Utility 2.9.5900 (MiKTeX 2.9)
>
> 2016-08-03 11:12:28,388+1000 INFO  initexmf - Removing fndb
> (C:\ProgramData\MiKTeX\2.9)...
>
> 2016-08-03 11:12:28,388+1000 FATAL initexmf - Windows API error 32: The
> process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process.
>
> 2016-08-03 11:12:28,388+1000 FATAL initexmf - Info:
> path="C:\ProgramData\MiKTeX\2.9\miktex/data/le\1756f6ade37d5f870f23c05a7f81e257.fndb"
>
> 2016-08-03 11:12:28,388+1000 FATAL initexmf - Source:
> Libraries\MiKTeX\Core\File\win\winFile.cpp
>
> 2016-08-03 11:12:28,388+1000 FATAL initexmf - Line: 286
>
>
> This is a "clean" install in the sense I have done unistalls and
> reinstalls of the package and haven't fiddled with anything. I do not know
> what process might be locking a needed file.
>
>
> I am not on Windows, so I doubt I can be very helpful. But one thing you
> might try is manually deleting the directory C:\ProgramData\MiKTeX\2.9\.
> It's possible there is a some file in there that is somehow locked.
>
> Richard
>
>

LyX Win7 package install fails because Miktex install fails.

[Mark Kortink]

Hi. I had LyX 2.2.0 (LyX-220-Bundle-3) running on a brand new Win 7 laptop
but for various reasons to do with not being able to generate pdfs and
missing .sty files I decided to uninstall and reinstall.



The 2.2.0 reinstallation then failed on several attempts, so I tried
uninstalling that and installing 2.1.4 (LyX-2.1.4-Bundle-1) downloaded from
LyX.org. Same problem. What happens is

1)   LyX seems to be installing fine, gets to the point where it says to
install Miktex, that seems to be installing fine as well.

2)   The MikTex install seems to almost run to the end then fails with “The
operation failed for some reason” message.

3)   Clicking OK there is an Miktex install failed message.

4)   Clicking OK there is a “No LaTeX distribution could be found” message .

5)   LyX tries to abort but hangs when it tries to delete the main LyX
directory.


The error log which I assume is recording what happened at step 2 above
says:-

2016-08-03 11:12:28,372+1000 INFO  initexmf - starting: MiKTeX
Configuration Utility 2.9.5900 (MiKTeX 2.9)

2016-08-03 11:12:28,388+1000 INFO  initexmf - Removing fndb
(C:\ProgramData\MiKTeX\2.9)...

2016-08-03 11:12:28,388+1000 FATAL initexmf - Windows API error 32: The
process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process.

2016-08-03 11:12:28,388+1000 FATAL initexmf - Info:
path="C:\ProgramData\MiKTeX\2.9\miktex/data/le\1756f6ade37d5f870f23c05a7f81e257.fndb"

2016-08-03 11:12:28,388+1000 FATAL initexmf - Source:
Libraries\MiKTeX\Core\File\win\winFile.cpp

2016-08-03 11:12:28,388+1000 FATAL initexmf - Line: 286


This is a "clean" install in the sense I have done unistalls and reinstalls
of the package and haven't fiddled with anything. I do not know what
process might be locking a needed file.


Regards

Mark Kortink

Re: View (in pdf) opens but no document

[Mark Kortink]

Mark Kortink  kortink.com> writes:

> 
> Hi, I have upgraded to LyX 2.1.3 on my two laptops.
> 
> On one laptop when I click View [Ctl-R] Adobe Reader XI opens and 
displays 
> the document. On the other it opens but does not display the document, 
> instead it displays recently viewed files (a LyX one is not there). 
> 
> I am guessing but judging by the time it takes I think a pdf is 
generated 
> somewhere, it is just not passed to the pdf program to open.
> 
> Can you suggest some things for me to chaeck/fix.
> 
> Thanks
> Mark
> 
> 

Using Sumatra worked instantly, shame the official Win10 pdf viewer can't 
handle it!

Layout sondard was not found.

[Mark Kortink]

When I open one on my LyX articles I get the message "Layout `sondard' was 
not found." I have never used or heard of this layout, and the only 
package the document uses is "xy" for xypic (Document Class is an American 
Mathematical Society Book). Once I close the dialog everything works fine.
How can I get rid of this annoying message?

Thanks

View (in pdf) opens but no document

[Mark Kortink]

Hi, I have upgraded to LyX 2.1.3 on my two laptops.

On one laptop when I click View [Ctl-R] Adobe Reader XI opens and displays 
the document. On the other it opens but does not display the document, 
instead it displays recently viewed files (a LyX one is not there). 

I am guessing but judging by the time it takes I think a pdf is generated 
somewhere, it is just not passed to the pdf program to open.

Can you suggest some things for me to chaeck/fix.

Thanks
Mark

Re: View (in pdf) opens but no document

[Kortink, Mark A]

Thanks, I will do that if I can't get the Adobe one working, prefer to have 
only one pdf viewer if I can.

Pstricks problem

[Mark]

Pstricks problem

A file that includes a simple drawing using
pstricks worked perfectly with 2.1.3, but now
after updating to 2.1.4 it does not work. Trying
to get a pdf results in error messages.

There is

\usepackage{pstricks}
\usepackage{pst-plot}

in the preamble.

Any suggestions?

Mark

Pstricks problem

[Mark]

Pstricks problem

A file that includes a simple drawing using
pstricks worked perfectly with 2.1.3, but now
after updating to 2.1.4 it does not work. Trying
to get a pdf results in error messages.

There is

\usepackage{pstricks}
\usepackage{pst-plot}

in the preamble.

Any suggestions?

Mark

tar.gz

[Mark K5AM]

Looked everywhere, but cannot find instructions
for updating with  lyx-2.1.4.tar.gz

Mark

tar.gz

[Mark K5AM]

Looked everywhere, but cannot find instructions
for updating with  lyx-2.1.4.tar.gz

Mark

Enumerate changes spacing over 2 pages

[Mark Garrow]

I have an enumerated list under a section with a number of items that are
indented one level.  The list begins towards the bottom of the page and
continues on the next page.  The spacing on the list items on the second
page changes drastically from what appear to be 1 line to several lines.
I've attached a pdf of the 2 pages in question so it's easier to see what
I'm talking about.  Any suggestions on how to remedy this would be greatly
appreciated.

Best regards,

Mark Garrow


Appendix9-10.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document

Enumerate changes spacing over 2 pages

[Mark Garrow]

I have an enumerated list under a section with a number of items that are
indented one level.  The list begins towards the bottom of the page and
continues on the next page.  The spacing on the list items on the second
page changes drastically from what appear to be 1 line to several lines.
I've attached a pdf of the 2 pages in question so it's easier to see what
I'm talking about.  Any suggestions on how to remedy this would be greatly
appreciated.

Best regards,

Mark Garrow


Appendix9-10.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document

Enumerate changes spacing over 2 pages

[Mark Garrow]

I have an enumerated list under a section with a number of items that are
indented one level.  The list begins towards the bottom of the page and
continues on the next page.  The spacing on the list items on the second
page changes drastically from what appear to be 1 line to several lines.
I've attached a pdf of the 2 pages in question so it's easier to see what
I'm talking about.  Any suggestions on how to remedy this would be greatly
appreciated.

Best regards,

Mark Garrow


Appendix9-10.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document

Re: new documents always have change-tracking on

[Mark Bravington]

 Stephan Witt st.witt at gmx.net writes:

 
 Am 17.11.2014 um 04:37 schrieb Mark Bravington mark.bravington at
csiro.au:
 
  Lyx 2.1.2 on Windows 7: When I do File/New document, it opens up with
  change-tracking switched on

 You've saved this state with your document defaults.
 
 To get rid of it you may disable change tracking in a new document
 and in document preferences save this document as default again.
 
 Stephan

Thanks, that solves it.

It does seem a bit odd that change-tracking status can be a document
default, since all the other things on the document-settings page are
output-related--- but maybe there's nowhere else that's more appropriate.

Mark

Re: new documents always have change-tracking on

[Mark Bravington]

 Stephan Witt st.witt at gmx.net writes:

 
 Am 17.11.2014 um 04:37 schrieb Mark Bravington mark.bravington at
csiro.au:
 
  Lyx 2.1.2 on Windows 7: When I do File/New document, it opens up with
  change-tracking switched on

 You've saved this state with your document defaults.
 
 To get rid of it you may disable change tracking in a new document
 and in document preferences save this document as default again.
 
 Stephan

Thanks, that solves it.

It does seem a bit odd that change-tracking status can be a document
default, since all the other things on the document-settings page are
output-related--- but maybe there's nowhere else that's more appropriate.

Mark

Re: new documents always have change-tracking on

[Mark Bravington]

> Stephan Witt  gmx.net> writes:

> 
> Am 17.11.2014 um 04:37 schrieb Mark Bravington 
csiro.au>:
> 
> > Lyx 2.1.2 on Windows 7: When I do File/New document, it opens up with
> > change-tracking switched on

> You've saved this state with your document defaults.
> 
> To get rid of it you may disable change tracking in a new document
> and in document preferences save this document as default again.
> 
> Stephan

Thanks, that solves it.

It does seem a bit odd that change-tracking status can be a "document
default", since all the other things on the document-settings page are
output-related--- but maybe there's nowhere else that's more appropriate.

Mark

new documents always have change-tracking on

[Mark Bravington]

Lyx 2.1.2 on Windows 7: When I do File/New document, it opens up with
change-tracking switched on, so that I start typing and then have to undo it
and turn off change-tracking and start again. Not life-threatening, but
annoying... and I can't find where to control this behaviour.

If it's not just me, then

 Tools/Preferences/LookFeel/Document handling

could be a good place for a checkbox to turn this off/on for new documents.

Mark

new documents always have change-tracking on

[Mark Bravington]

Lyx 2.1.2 on Windows 7: When I do File/New document, it opens up with
change-tracking switched on, so that I start typing and then have to undo it
and turn off change-tracking and start again. Not life-threatening, but
annoying... and I can't find where to control this behaviour.

If it's not just me, then

 Tools/Preferences/LookFeel/Document handling

could be a good place for a checkbox to turn this off/on for new documents.

Mark

new documents always have change-tracking on

[Mark Bravington]

Lyx 2.1.2 on Windows 7: When I do File/New document, it opens up with
change-tracking switched on, so that I start typing and then have to undo it
and turn off change-tracking and start again. Not life-threatening, but
annoying... and I can't find where to control this behaviour.

If it's not just me, then

 Tools/Preferences/Look/Document handling

could be a good place for a checkbox to turn this off/on for new documents.

Mark

tex2lyx

[Mark A Pinsky]

I'm running Lyx 2.1 and trying to convert tex-file to lyx-file.  Follow the 
standard pass: file importLatex(plain); however am getting an error message:
An error occurred while running tex2lyx-froot1.texroot1.lyx
What should I do?
Thanks,
Mark

tex2lyx

[Mark A Pinsky]

I'm running Lyx 2.1 and trying to convert tex-file to lyx-file.  Follow the 
standard pass: file importLatex(plain); however am getting an error message:
An error occurred while running tex2lyx-froot1.texroot1.lyx
What should I do?
Thanks,
Mark

tex2lyx

[Mark A Pinsky]

I'm running Lyx 2.1 and trying to convert tex-file to lyx-file.  Follow the 
standard pass: file> import>Latex(plain); however am getting an error message:
An error occurred while running tex2lyx-f"root1.tex""root1.lyx"
What should I do?
Thanks,
Mark

Re: Adding new class into LyX

[Mark Salmon]

I totally agree!!!I have wasted so much time trying and given up. Also where
is the best repository for alternative classes- I am using a Mac OSX - like
many Mac users have nearly given up with LyX¹s lack of support for Mac- LyX
is a pleasure when it works but when it doesn¹t it is a total waste of time
and time is something we just don¹t have. The documentation just isn¹t clear
and Mac support is terrible.

From:  Steven Fredman stevenfred...@gmail.com
Date:  Friday, 28 March 2014 09:25
To:  lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject:  Adding new class into LyX

Hi

I'm trying to import a new class into LyX. The class and all of it's
associated files can be found at
http://labproj.eie.wits.ac.za/labproj/papers/witseie-paper-2005.zip

I've spent quite a bit of time on Google looking for a method to do this,
but all of the tutorials are vague and seem to contradict each other - I've
followed the instructions on a number of them and they don't seem to work.

Can you please give me a clear set of instructions of how to go about adding
this type of document.

I'm running LyX Version 2.0.7 with MiKTeX 2.9.4248 on Windows 8 64-bit.

Alternatively, is there a better or easier way for me to use the template
provided?

Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Kind Regards
Steven Fredman

Re: Adding new class into LyX

[Mark Salmon]

Aplogies for lack of immediate  response - I had to teach. I have had
frustrations with Lyx  ever since I moved from SciWord several years ago.
Yesterday I upgraded to the latest beta and now when I try and load up a New
file I get the error message that there is no begin document command when
there clearly is in the source file- I wasted half a day trying to work out
what was wrong- in fact I still don¹t know what was wrong but by removing
use theme warsaw from the Latex preamble it works for some reason- secondly
the installation on MacOSx does not drop the relevant files -templates  etc.
in the right places where the system can find them ‹- so when I ask for a
New from template I am told the file will not compile as it requires
external files which are not available.etc. Etc. etc. can you understand how
frustrating this is when you are under pressure???  I am not a TeX speaker
but someone who needs to use the wonderful system that  you have helped to
create in a professional context. HoweverŠ. It is just a real pain that it
does not work properly on a Mac largely because of install problems I
believe. I fully understand your effort and all those who along with you
have helped create Lyx in the form it is today ­ thank you- but that is not
the point ­ nobody should put any software out to the public which does not
work as it should­ my time as yours is valuable. It is simply not
professional.
Mark

From:  Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org
Date:  Friday, 28 March 2014 10:44
To:  Murat Yildizoglu murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr
Cc:  Mark Salmon markhsal...@gmail.com, Steven Fredman
stevenfred...@gmail.com, LyX Users List lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject:  Re: Adding new class into LyX

2014-03-28 11:33 GMT+01:00 Murat Yildizoglu:
 Don't get vexed so quickly Jürgen :-)  The users should be able to tell the
 problems they meet.

Sure, but in a constructive way. We cannot fix a total waste of time and
terrible support.
 
 It is true that writing a module for supporting a new class file is not very
 easy, but I do not know how it could be. We must find a way to tell to the
 WSYWYM software a way to represent on the screen the new logical components
 that are specific to this new class. Scientific Word (a commercial software
 costing a LOT money- especially in France) has always been confronted to the
 same problem, even if they provided a graphical style composer (it was not
 very easy to use either, but I have not tested it recently, since I have
 switched to Lyx).

Sure. We all want some graphical tool to setup layout files. There even were
attempts to do so. But then, we are about 7 persons in the core team, all of
has have a job and a career, so it is a it is in OSS: Things get implemented
if someone finds the time and interest.

OTOH, I think LyX has a great community. Usually, if someone requests for
help with setting up a layout, he gets help within the same day. I have
responded the OP within minutes, even though I actually have a paper to
write myself at this very moment (where the deadline has passed already).

So with all respect to wishes and dreams, my understanding for such
unconstructive rants is rather limited.

Jürgen

Re: Adding new class into LyX

[Mark Salmon]

Murat 
Thank you for your reply. If these problems which have frustrated me and
wasted my time‹ are well known by other users and there are solutions to
them  as you say ‹- then WHY have the solutions not been embedded in the
latest beta?
I understand software development issues and the need to update as changes
are made but my comment above remains- as a simple user I need to be able to
use the software- if there are well know problems in the software on
particular platforms then surely the developers have a responsibility to
remove them when the  software is upgraded? This applies equally to open
source community based as to commercial software.
Mark

From:  Murat Yildizoglu murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr
Date:  Friday, 28 March 2014 13:39
To:  Mark Salmon markhsal...@gmail.com
Cc:  Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org, Murat Yildizoglu
murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr, LyX Users List lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject:  Re: Adding new class into LyX

Mark,

I understand your frustrations, but these installation discrepancies are
small problems, and they are perfectly known normally by the users (you can
search the mail list, and you will find these problems there and solutions
to them). So you have not been cheated by a commercial vendor hiding from
you the deficiencies of the product he sells (see below on your
responsibilities as a user, from my point of view as a user)...

There was also a lot of discussion about the big rewriting of the BEAMER
module in the previous beta version. This is a big change, but it goes in
the correct direction, even if each of us had to take sometime to get used
to the new standard. You should read the documentation on the new beamer
module. My beamer slides from much older versions of LyX have nearly all
been imported without any big problems (including elements in the preamble,
but see the end of this paragraph). You sometime need to add a separation at
the end of a slide, and eliminate instructions - old tricks - that are not
necessary in the newer versions of beamer.

In any case, this is a software developed by a community of dedicated
developers with limited resources, as J ürgen reminds it in his message. And
I am grateful to them that they indeed put this software out to the
public, to which I belong (I am mainly a user).

Communities developing open source softs cannot just reply take it or leave
it to users who formulate criticisms, but these users have also the
responsibility of taking time to collect some information about the soft
before adopting it  (because adopting a new software is a time consuming
process, whatever is the software - commercial like SWP or not), and of
making suggestions of amelioration for the soft, when they have new needs,
instead of flaming the community with their definitive improductive
judgements. 

I hope that you will quickly solve your problems.

Murat


2014-03-28 13:58 GMT+01:00 Mark Salmon markhsal...@gmail.com:
 Aplogies for lack of immediate  response - I had to teach. I have had
 frustrations with Lyx  ever since I moved from SciWord several years ago.
 Yesterday I upgraded to the latest beta and now when I try and load up a New
 file I get the error message that there is no begin document command when
 there clearly is in the source file- I wasted half a day trying to work out
 what was wrong- in fact I still don¹t know what was wrong but by removing use
 theme warsaw from the Latex preamble it works for some reason- secondly the
 installation on MacOSx does not drop the relevant files -templates  etc. in
 the right places where the system can find them ‹- so when I ask for a New
 from template I am told the file will not compile as it requires external
 files which are not available.etc. Etc. etc. can you understand how
 frustrating this is when you are under pressure???  I am not a TeX speaker but
 someone who needs to use the wonderful system that  you have helped to create
 in a professional context. HoweverŠ. It is just a real pain that it does not
 work properly on a Mac largely because of install problems I believe. I fully
 understand your effort and all those who along with you have helped create Lyx
 in the form it is today ­ thank you- but that is not the point ­ nobody should
 put any software out to the public which does not work as it should­ my time
 as yours is valuable. It is simply not professional.
 Mark
 
 From:  Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org
 Date:  Friday, 28 March 2014 10:44
 To:  Murat Yildizoglu murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr
 Cc:  Mark Salmon markhsal...@gmail.com, Steven Fredman
 stevenfred...@gmail.com, LyX Users List lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
 Subject:  Re: Adding new class into LyX
 
 2014-03-28 11:33 GMT+01:00 Murat Yildizoglu:
 Don't get vexed so quickly Jürgen :-)  The users should be able to tell the
 problems they meet.
 
 Sure, but in a constructive way. We cannot fix a total waste of time and
 terrible support.
  
 It is true that writing a module for supporting a new class file

Re: Adding new class into LyX

[Mark Salmon]

I totally agree!!!I have wasted so much time trying and given up. Also where
is the best repository for alternative classes- I am using a Mac OSX - like
many Mac users have nearly given up with LyX¹s lack of support for Mac- LyX
is a pleasure when it works but when it doesn¹t it is a total waste of time
and time is something we just don¹t have. The documentation just isn¹t clear
and Mac support is terrible.

From:  Steven Fredman stevenfred...@gmail.com
Date:  Friday, 28 March 2014 09:25
To:  lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject:  Adding new class into LyX

Hi

I'm trying to import a new class into LyX. The class and all of it's
associated files can be found at
http://labproj.eie.wits.ac.za/labproj/papers/witseie-paper-2005.zip

I've spent quite a bit of time on Google looking for a method to do this,
but all of the tutorials are vague and seem to contradict each other - I've
followed the instructions on a number of them and they don't seem to work.

Can you please give me a clear set of instructions of how to go about adding
this type of document.

I'm running LyX Version 2.0.7 with MiKTeX 2.9.4248 on Windows 8 64-bit.

Alternatively, is there a better or easier way for me to use the template
provided?

Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Kind Regards
Steven Fredman

Re: Adding new class into LyX

[Mark Salmon]

Aplogies for lack of immediate  response - I had to teach. I have had
frustrations with Lyx  ever since I moved from SciWord several years ago.
Yesterday I upgraded to the latest beta and now when I try and load up a New
file I get the error message that there is no begin document command when
there clearly is in the source file- I wasted half a day trying to work out
what was wrong- in fact I still don¹t know what was wrong but by removing
use theme warsaw from the Latex preamble it works for some reason- secondly
the installation on MacOSx does not drop the relevant files -templates  etc.
in the right places where the system can find them ‹- so when I ask for a
New from template I am told the file will not compile as it requires
external files which are not available.etc. Etc. etc. can you understand how
frustrating this is when you are under pressure???  I am not a TeX speaker
but someone who needs to use the wonderful system that  you have helped to
create in a professional context. HoweverŠ. It is just a real pain that it
does not work properly on a Mac largely because of install problems I
believe. I fully understand your effort and all those who along with you
have helped create Lyx in the form it is today ­ thank you- but that is not
the point ­ nobody should put any software out to the public which does not
work as it should­ my time as yours is valuable. It is simply not
professional.
Mark

From:  Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org
Date:  Friday, 28 March 2014 10:44
To:  Murat Yildizoglu murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr
Cc:  Mark Salmon markhsal...@gmail.com, Steven Fredman
stevenfred...@gmail.com, LyX Users List lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject:  Re: Adding new class into LyX

2014-03-28 11:33 GMT+01:00 Murat Yildizoglu:
 Don't get vexed so quickly Jürgen :-)  The users should be able to tell the
 problems they meet.

Sure, but in a constructive way. We cannot fix a total waste of time and
terrible support.
 
 It is true that writing a module for supporting a new class file is not very
 easy, but I do not know how it could be. We must find a way to tell to the
 WSYWYM software a way to represent on the screen the new logical components
 that are specific to this new class. Scientific Word (a commercial software
 costing a LOT money- especially in France) has always been confronted to the
 same problem, even if they provided a graphical style composer (it was not
 very easy to use either, but I have not tested it recently, since I have
 switched to Lyx).

Sure. We all want some graphical tool to setup layout files. There even were
attempts to do so. But then, we are about 7 persons in the core team, all of
has have a job and a career, so it is a it is in OSS: Things get implemented
if someone finds the time and interest.

OTOH, I think LyX has a great community. Usually, if someone requests for
help with setting up a layout, he gets help within the same day. I have
responded the OP within minutes, even though I actually have a paper to
write myself at this very moment (where the deadline has passed already).

So with all respect to wishes and dreams, my understanding for such
unconstructive rants is rather limited.

Jürgen

Re: Adding new class into LyX

[Mark Salmon]

Murat 
Thank you for your reply. If these problems which have frustrated me and
wasted my time‹ are well known by other users and there are solutions to
them  as you say ‹- then WHY have the solutions not been embedded in the
latest beta?
I understand software development issues and the need to update as changes
are made but my comment above remains- as a simple user I need to be able to
use the software- if there are well know problems in the software on
particular platforms then surely the developers have a responsibility to
remove them when the  software is upgraded? This applies equally to open
source community based as to commercial software.
Mark

From:  Murat Yildizoglu murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr
Date:  Friday, 28 March 2014 13:39
To:  Mark Salmon markhsal...@gmail.com
Cc:  Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org, Murat Yildizoglu
murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr, LyX Users List lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject:  Re: Adding new class into LyX

Mark,

I understand your frustrations, but these installation discrepancies are
small problems, and they are perfectly known normally by the users (you can
search the mail list, and you will find these problems there and solutions
to them). So you have not been cheated by a commercial vendor hiding from
you the deficiencies of the product he sells (see below on your
responsibilities as a user, from my point of view as a user)...

There was also a lot of discussion about the big rewriting of the BEAMER
module in the previous beta version. This is a big change, but it goes in
the correct direction, even if each of us had to take sometime to get used
to the new standard. You should read the documentation on the new beamer
module. My beamer slides from much older versions of LyX have nearly all
been imported without any big problems (including elements in the preamble,
but see the end of this paragraph). You sometime need to add a separation at
the end of a slide, and eliminate instructions - old tricks - that are not
necessary in the newer versions of beamer.

In any case, this is a software developed by a community of dedicated
developers with limited resources, as J ürgen reminds it in his message. And
I am grateful to them that they indeed put this software out to the
public, to which I belong (I am mainly a user).

Communities developing open source softs cannot just reply take it or leave
it to users who formulate criticisms, but these users have also the
responsibility of taking time to collect some information about the soft
before adopting it  (because adopting a new software is a time consuming
process, whatever is the software - commercial like SWP or not), and of
making suggestions of amelioration for the soft, when they have new needs,
instead of flaming the community with their definitive improductive
judgements. 

I hope that you will quickly solve your problems.

Murat


2014-03-28 13:58 GMT+01:00 Mark Salmon markhsal...@gmail.com:
 Aplogies for lack of immediate  response - I had to teach. I have had
 frustrations with Lyx  ever since I moved from SciWord several years ago.
 Yesterday I upgraded to the latest beta and now when I try and load up a New
 file I get the error message that there is no begin document command when
 there clearly is in the source file- I wasted half a day trying to work out
 what was wrong- in fact I still don¹t know what was wrong but by removing use
 theme warsaw from the Latex preamble it works for some reason- secondly the
 installation on MacOSx does not drop the relevant files -templates  etc. in
 the right places where the system can find them ‹- so when I ask for a New
 from template I am told the file will not compile as it requires external
 files which are not available.etc. Etc. etc. can you understand how
 frustrating this is when you are under pressure???  I am not a TeX speaker but
 someone who needs to use the wonderful system that  you have helped to create
 in a professional context. HoweverŠ. It is just a real pain that it does not
 work properly on a Mac largely because of install problems I believe. I fully
 understand your effort and all those who along with you have helped create Lyx
 in the form it is today ­ thank you- but that is not the point ­ nobody should
 put any software out to the public which does not work as it should­ my time
 as yours is valuable. It is simply not professional.
 Mark
 
 From:  Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org
 Date:  Friday, 28 March 2014 10:44
 To:  Murat Yildizoglu murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr
 Cc:  Mark Salmon markhsal...@gmail.com, Steven Fredman
 stevenfred...@gmail.com, LyX Users List lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
 Subject:  Re: Adding new class into LyX
 
 2014-03-28 11:33 GMT+01:00 Murat Yildizoglu:
 Don't get vexed so quickly Jürgen :-)  The users should be able to tell the
 problems they meet.
 
 Sure, but in a constructive way. We cannot fix a total waste of time and
 terrible support.
  
 It is true that writing a module for supporting a new class file

Re: Adding new class into LyX

[Mark Salmon]

I totally agree!!!I have wasted so much time trying and given up. Also where
is the best repository for alternative classes- I am using a Mac OSX - like
many Mac users have nearly given up with LyX¹s lack of support for Mac- LyX
is a pleasure when it works but when it doesn¹t it is a total waste of time
and time is something we just don¹t have. The documentation just isn¹t clear
and Mac support is terrible.

From:  Steven Fredman 
Date:  Friday, 28 March 2014 09:25
To:  
Subject:  Adding new class into LyX

Hi

I'm trying to import a new class into LyX. The class and all of it's
associated files can be found at
http://labproj.eie.wits.ac.za/labproj/papers/witseie-paper-2005.zip

I've spent quite a bit of time on Google looking for a method to do this,
but all of the tutorials are vague and seem to contradict each other - I've
followed the instructions on a number of them and they don't seem to work.

Can you please give me a clear set of instructions of how to go about adding
this type of document.

I'm running LyX Version 2.0.7 with MiKTeX 2.9.4248 on Windows 8 64-bit.

Alternatively, is there a better or easier way for me to use the template
provided?

Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Kind Regards
Steven Fredman

Re: Adding new class into LyX

[Mark Salmon]

Aplogies for lack of immediate  response - I had to teach. I have had
frustrations with Lyx  ever since I moved from SciWord several years ago.
Yesterday I upgraded to the latest beta and now when I try and load up a New
file I get the error message that there is no begin document command when
there clearly is in the source file- I wasted half a day trying to work out
what was wrong- in fact I still don¹t know what was wrong but by removing
use theme warsaw from the Latex preamble it works for some reason- secondly
the installation on MacOSx does not drop the relevant files -templates  etc.
in the right places where the system can find them ‹- so when I ask for a
New from template I am told the file will not compile as it requires
external files which are not available.etc. Etc. etc. can you understand how
frustrating this is when you are under pressure???  I am not a TeX speaker
but someone who needs to use the wonderful system that  you have helped to
create in a professional context. HoweverŠ. It is just a real pain that it
does not work properly on a Mac largely because of install problems I
believe. I fully understand your effort and all those who along with you
have helped create Lyx in the form it is today ­ thank you- but that is not
the point ­ nobody should put any software out to the public which does not
work as it should­ my time as yours is valuable. It is simply not
professional.
Mark

From:  Jürgen Spitzmüller <sp...@lyx.org>
Date:  Friday, 28 March 2014 10:44
To:  Murat Yildizoglu <murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr>
Cc:  Mark Salmon <markhsal...@gmail.com>, Steven Fredman
<stevenfred...@gmail.com>, LyX Users List <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org>
Subject:  Re: Adding new class into LyX

2014-03-28 11:33 GMT+01:00 Murat Yildizoglu:
> Don't get vexed so quickly Jürgen :-)  The users should be able to tell the
> problems they meet.

Sure, but in a constructive way. We cannot fix "a total waste of time" and
"terrible support".
 
> It is true that writing a module for supporting a new class file is not very
> easy, but I do not know how it could be. We must find a way to tell to the
> WSYWYM software a way to represent on the screen the new logical components
> that are specific to this new class. Scientific Word (a commercial software
> costing a LOT money- especially in France) has always been confronted to the
> same problem, even if they provided a graphical style composer (it was not
> very easy to use either, but I have not tested it recently, since I have
> switched to Lyx).

Sure. We all want some graphical tool to setup layout files. There even were
attempts to do so. But then, we are about 7 persons in the core team, all of
has have a job and a career, so it is a it is in OSS: Things get implemented
if someone finds the time and interest.

OTOH, I think LyX has a great community. Usually, if someone requests for
help with setting up a layout, he gets help within the same day. I have
responded the OP within minutes, even though I actually have a paper to
write myself at this very moment (where the deadline has passed already).

So with all respect to wishes and dreams, my understanding for such
unconstructive rants is rather limited.

Jürgen

Re: Adding new class into LyX

[Mark Salmon]

Murat 
Thank you for your reply. If these problems which have frustrated me and
wasted my time‹ are well known by other users and there are solutions to
them  as you say ‹- then WHY have the solutions not been embedded in the
latest beta?
I understand software development issues and the need to update as changes
are made but my comment above remains- as a simple user I need to be able to
use the software- if there are well know problems in the software on
particular platforms then surely the developers have a responsibility to
remove them when the  software is upgraded? This applies equally to open
source community based as to commercial software.
Mark

From:  Murat Yildizoglu <murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr>
Date:  Friday, 28 March 2014 13:39
To:  Mark Salmon <markhsal...@gmail.com>
Cc:  Jürgen Spitzmüller <sp...@lyx.org>, Murat Yildizoglu
<murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr>, LyX Users List <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org>
Subject:  Re: Adding new class into LyX

Mark,

I understand your frustrations, but these installation discrepancies are
small problems, and they are perfectly known normally by the users (you can
search the mail list, and you will find these problems there and solutions
to them). So you have not been cheated by a commercial vendor hiding from
you the deficiencies of the product he sells (see below on your
responsibilities as a user, from my point of view as a user)...

There was also a lot of discussion about the big rewriting of the BEAMER
module in the previous beta version. This is a big change, but it goes in
the correct direction, even if each of us had to take sometime to get used
to the new standard. You should read the documentation on the new beamer
module. My beamer slides from much older versions of LyX have nearly all
been imported without any big problems (including elements in the preamble,
but see the end of this paragraph). You sometime need to add a separation at
the end of a slide, and eliminate instructions - old tricks - that are not
necessary in the newer versions of beamer.

In any case, this is a software developed by a community of dedicated
developers with limited resources, as J ürgen reminds it in his message. And
I am grateful to them that they indeed "put this software out to the
public", to which I belong (I am mainly a user).

Communities developing open source softs cannot just reply "take it or leave
it" to users who formulate criticisms, but these users have also the
responsibility of taking time to collect some information about the soft
before adopting it  (because adopting a new software is a time consuming
process, whatever is the software - commercial like SWP or not), and of
making suggestions of amelioration for the soft, when they have new needs,
instead of flaming the community with their definitive improductive
judgements. 

I hope that you will quickly solve your problems.

Murat


2014-03-28 13:58 GMT+01:00 Mark Salmon <markhsal...@gmail.com>:
> Aplogies for lack of immediate  response - I had to teach. I have had
> frustrations with Lyx  ever since I moved from SciWord several years ago.
> Yesterday I upgraded to the latest beta and now when I try and load up a New
> file I get the error message that there is no begin document command when
> there clearly is in the source file- I wasted half a day trying to work out
> what was wrong- in fact I still don¹t know what was wrong but by removing use
> theme warsaw from the Latex preamble it works for some reason- secondly the
> installation on MacOSx does not drop the relevant files -templates  etc. in
> the right places where the system can find them ‹- so when I ask for a New
> from template I am told the file will not compile as it requires external
> files which are not available.etc. Etc. etc. can you understand how
> frustrating this is when you are under pressure???  I am not a TeX speaker but
> someone who needs to use the wonderful system that  you have helped to create
> in a professional context. HoweverŠ. It is just a real pain that it does not
> work properly on a Mac largely because of install problems I believe. I fully
> understand your effort and all those who along with you have helped create Lyx
> in the form it is today ­ thank you- but that is not the point ­ nobody should
> put any software out to the public which does not work as it should­ my time
> as yours is valuable. It is simply not professional.
> Mark
> 
> From:  Jürgen Spitzmüller <sp...@lyx.org>
> Date:  Friday, 28 March 2014 10:44
> To:  Murat Yildizoglu <murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr>
> Cc:  Mark Salmon <markhsal...@gmail.com>, Steven Fredman
> <stevenfred...@gmail.com>, LyX Users List <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org>
> Subject:  Re: Adding new class into LyX
> 
> 2014-03-28 11:33 GMT+01:00 Murat Yildizoglu:
>> Don't get vexed so 

Re: LyX label and reference problem - Faulty pdf

[Mark Mandelkern]

Hi Scott,

Thank you for the e-mail. I have received no
other suggestions about this problem.

Yes, of course, it could be a problem in
MikTeK. Or XP.

I will try to get an example next time it happens.

Anyway, LyX has been a great help. Thank you!

All the best,

Mark



On 2013-11-11 21:33, Scott Kostyshak wrote:

Hi Markus,

This sounds like a very frustrating experience. See my comments in-line.

On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Mark Mandelkern k...@zianet.com wrote:


LyX label and reference problem - faulty pdf

This is about internal labels and references, as for theorem
numbers and section numbers, not about the references at
the end of a paper.

These numbers should appear in an exported pdf, but
at times the pdf will have only   ??   instead of the
numbers, at more than a hundred places. The labels
appear, but not the references. Thus, the exported
pdf is useless.


Can you send (to the list) a minimal working example?
http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/NewInLyX21


Program restart does not help. Computer restart does
not help. The only solution I have found is a complete
reinstall of the program, including MikTek. And even
then, it is necessary to go back to a previous saved
draft, and re-enter many updates. Sometimes
a day's work. Sometimes a crucial line is lost.


Doesn't this suggest that the problem is with MikTeX? Why do you think
it is a LyX issue? I really have no idea and it could still be a LyX
issue (maybe LyX triggers something when a new MikTeX installation is
found), but I'm curious on your thoughts.

Best,

Scott

Re: LyX label and reference problem - Faulty pdf

[Mark Mandelkern]

Hi Scott,

Thank you for the e-mail. I have received no
other suggestions about this problem.

Yes, of course, it could be a problem in
MikTeK. Or XP.

I will try to get an example next time it happens.

Anyway, LyX has been a great help. Thank you!

All the best,

Mark



On 2013-11-11 21:33, Scott Kostyshak wrote:

Hi Markus,

This sounds like a very frustrating experience. See my comments in-line.

On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Mark Mandelkern k...@zianet.com wrote:


LyX label and reference problem - faulty pdf

This is about internal labels and references, as for theorem
numbers and section numbers, not about the references at
the end of a paper.

These numbers should appear in an exported pdf, but
at times the pdf will have only   ??   instead of the
numbers, at more than a hundred places. The labels
appear, but not the references. Thus, the exported
pdf is useless.


Can you send (to the list) a minimal working example?
http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/NewInLyX21


Program restart does not help. Computer restart does
not help. The only solution I have found is a complete
reinstall of the program, including MikTek. And even
then, it is necessary to go back to a previous saved
draft, and re-enter many updates. Sometimes
a day's work. Sometimes a crucial line is lost.


Doesn't this suggest that the problem is with MikTeX? Why do you think
it is a LyX issue? I really have no idea and it could still be a LyX
issue (maybe LyX triggers something when a new MikTeX installation is
found), but I'm curious on your thoughts.

Best,

Scott

Re: LyX label and reference problem - Faulty pdf

[Mark Mandelkern]

Hi Scott,

Thank you for the e-mail. I have received no
other suggestions about this problem.

Yes, of course, it could be a problem in
MikTeK. Or XP.

I will try to get an example next time it happens.

Anyway, LyX has been a great help. Thank you!

All the best,

Mark



On 2013-11-11 21:33, Scott Kostyshak wrote:

Hi Markus,

This sounds like a very frustrating experience. See my comments in-line.

On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Mark Mandelkern <k...@zianet.com> wrote:


LyX label and reference problem - faulty pdf

This is about internal labels and references, as for theorem
numbers and section numbers, not about the references at
the end of a paper.

These numbers should appear in an exported pdf, but
at times the pdf will have only   ??   instead of the
numbers, at more than a hundred places. The labels
appear, but not the references. Thus, the exported
pdf is useless.


Can you send (to the list) a minimal working example?
http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/NewInLyX21


Program restart does not help. Computer restart does
not help. The only solution I have found is a complete
reinstall of the program, including MikTek. And even
then, it is necessary to go back to a previous saved
draft, and re-enter many updates. Sometimes
a day's work. Sometimes a crucial line is lost.


Doesn't this suggest that the problem is with MikTeX? Why do you think
it is a LyX issue? I really have no idea and it could still be a LyX
issue (maybe LyX triggers something when a new MikTeX installation is
found), but I'm curious on your thoughts.

Best,

Scott

LyX label and reference problem - Faulty pdf

[Mark Mandelkern]

LyX label and reference problem - faulty pdf

This is about internal labels and references, as for theorem
numbers and section numbers, not about the references at
the end of a paper.

These numbers should appear in an exported pdf, but
at times the pdf will have only   ??   instead of the
numbers, at more than a hundred places. The labels
appear, but not the references. Thus, the exported
pdf is useless.

Program restart does not help. Computer restart does
not help. The only solution I have found is a complete
reinstall of the program, including MikTek. And even
then, it is necessary to go back to a previous saved
draft, and re-enter many updates. Sometimes
a day's work. Sometimes a crucial line is lost.

Is there a cure for this serious malfunctioning?

Mark

LyX label and reference problem - Faulty pdf

[Mark Mandelkern]

LyX label and reference problem - faulty pdf

This is about internal labels and references, as for theorem
numbers and section numbers, not about the references at
the end of a paper.

These numbers should appear in an exported pdf, but
at times the pdf will have only   ??   instead of the
numbers, at more than a hundred places. The labels
appear, but not the references. Thus, the exported
pdf is useless.

Program restart does not help. Computer restart does
not help. The only solution I have found is a complete
reinstall of the program, including MikTek. And even
then, it is necessary to go back to a previous saved
draft, and re-enter many updates. Sometimes
a day's work. Sometimes a crucial line is lost.

Is there a cure for this serious malfunctioning?

Mark

LyX label and reference problem - Faulty pdf

[Mark Mandelkern]

LyX label and reference problem - faulty pdf

This is about internal labels and references, as for theorem
numbers and section numbers, not about the references at
the end of a paper.

These numbers should appear in an exported pdf, but
at times the pdf will have only   ??   instead of the
numbers, at more than a hundred places. The labels
appear, but not the references. Thus, the exported
pdf is useless.

Program restart does not help. Computer restart does
not help. The only solution I have found is a complete
reinstall of the program, including MikTek. And even
then, it is necessary to go back to a previous saved
draft, and re-enter many updates. Sometimes
a day's work. Sometimes a crucial line is lost.

Is there a cure for this serious malfunctioning?

Mark

Re: Beginners need to tweak layout

[Mark Horton]

Steve Litt slitt at troubleshooters.com writes:

 
 On Tue, 29 Oct 2013 16:43:02 + (UTC)
 Mark Horton mark.horton001 at yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 
  Hi I am a beginner in Lyx and understand a bit about the principles
  of Latex. I understand the advantages of a fixed layout and have
  seen some code to create a simple one. However it looks like a very
  steep learning curve. 
 
 Hi Mark,
 
 You're exactly right. LaTeX, and therefore layouts, have a steep
 learning curve. I'd recommend you make your first one in the same
 directory as your document, but test it with a tiny test document.
 
  
  All I would like to do is 2 little adjustments to the standard book
  layout. It looks fine on A4 paper but when dropping down to A5 paper
  the space around the Chapter heading text is too big and the Chapter
  heading text is too big.
  
  I believe there are two possible routes, something about a local
  module to override current settings which would be best. Or if
  possible get the original source for the book layout and create my
  own local layout from it. (But I wouldn't know where to find that..
  or if it is available)
 
 That's a last resort, Mark. It's best just to specify only the changes,
 if possible, rather than rewriting the whole environment and modifying
 it.
 
 Here's the idiomatic way people specify the changes:
 
 \let\oldmiscstyle=\miscstyle
 \let\endoldmiscstyle=\endmiscstyle
 \renewenvironment{miscstyle}{
   %%% Stuff to do before invoking original environment
   \begin{oldmiscstyle}
    Stuff to do after invoking original, but before the text
 }{
    Stuff to do before ending original, but after text
   \end{oldmiscstyle}
    Stuff to do after original environment ends
 }
 
 Mark, if you've been a software developer in the past, the line with
 \endoldmiscstyle probably looks like Voodoo, especially given that
 neither \endoldmiscstyle nor \endmiscstyle is ever mentioned again. Do
 it anyway: Somehow, when an environment \whatever is made, LaTeX seems
 to make a corresponding \endwhatever that gets executed upon
 \whatever's completion. I've personally had situations where this idiom
 didn't work unless I put in the line:
 
 \let\endoldmiscstyle=\endmiscstyle
 
 It's best not to give too much thought to such thing as it could screw
 up your brain --- just do it.
 
  
  So much for the principle. Any advice on where to find out about the
  practice (at beginner level) would be appreciated.
 
 I gave a beginners-eye view of making your own layout here:
 
 http://www.troubleshooters.com/lpm/200210/200210.htm#_MakingYourOwnLayout
 
 If I were you, I'd read the entire document, in order. 
 
 http://www.troubleshooters.com/lpm/200210/200210.htm
 
 I'd estimate it would be about a day to assimilate all the information,
 and you'll get back your day after writing 200 pages of LyX-authored
 content, and from then on you'll benefit from the knowledge.
 
 WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING
 
 My document was written before LyX had a great facility for placing the
 layout file in the local directory. Unless you have a reason to believe
 that you'll use the same layout for lots of books (I never have), then
 use current directory layouts, like this:
 
 Document-Settings-Document_class-Local_layout_button
 
 WARNING: DEFINITION ALERT
 
 LyX now has two different definitions for Local Layout. Definition 1:
 Document-Settings-Document_class-Local_layout_button
 
 Definition 2: 
 Document-Settings-Local_layout
 
 Definition 1 refers to a layout file in the same directory as the
 document. Definition 2 refers to putting the text you would normally
 put in a layout file, into the document itself.
 
 I personally always do it with Definition 1 because I can use my editor
 of choice (which of course is Vim), and because I don't have to deal
 with the hassles of the Validate button.
 
 When you use a Definition 1 layout file, be sure to Tools-Reconfigure
 and then restart LyX after every change to the layout file. This hassle
 is one reason I recommend a small test document while building and
 fine-tuning your layout. I often put everything in a shellscript that
 loops. There are people on this list who know how to do a reconfigure
 from the command line: Ask them how to do that --- makes it easier, but
 be careful, you need to be in the right directory when you issue that
 command.
 
 Lastly, I'd like to congratulate you. There are people in this world
 who say Oh, LyX is trivially easy, anyone can use it!. Those people
 have no credibility with me, because they've obviously always used
 LyX defaults and have never made layout files. In making your layout
 file, you become a LyX journeyman, with its attendant credibility.
 
 Thanks,
 
 SteveT
 
 Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
 Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance
 
 
Steve  Guenter

Steve
Thanks for your long and prompt reply. It was your document on creating a 
layout that I looked

Re: Beginners need to tweak layout

[Mark Horton]

Steve Litt slitt at troubleshooters.com writes:

 
 On Tue, 29 Oct 2013 16:43:02 + (UTC)
 Mark Horton mark.horton001 at yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 
  Hi I am a beginner in Lyx and understand a bit about the principles
  of Latex. I understand the advantages of a fixed layout and have
  seen some code to create a simple one. However it looks like a very
  steep learning curve. 
 
 Hi Mark,
 
 You're exactly right. LaTeX, and therefore layouts, have a steep
 learning curve. I'd recommend you make your first one in the same
 directory as your document, but test it with a tiny test document.
 
  
  All I would like to do is 2 little adjustments to the standard book
  layout. It looks fine on A4 paper but when dropping down to A5 paper
  the space around the Chapter heading text is too big and the Chapter
  heading text is too big.
  
  I believe there are two possible routes, something about a local
  module to override current settings which would be best. Or if
  possible get the original source for the book layout and create my
  own local layout from it. (But I wouldn't know where to find that..
  or if it is available)
 
 That's a last resort, Mark. It's best just to specify only the changes,
 if possible, rather than rewriting the whole environment and modifying
 it.
 
 Here's the idiomatic way people specify the changes:
 
 \let\oldmiscstyle=\miscstyle
 \let\endoldmiscstyle=\endmiscstyle
 \renewenvironment{miscstyle}{
   %%% Stuff to do before invoking original environment
   \begin{oldmiscstyle}
    Stuff to do after invoking original, but before the text
 }{
    Stuff to do before ending original, but after text
   \end{oldmiscstyle}
    Stuff to do after original environment ends
 }
 
 Mark, if you've been a software developer in the past, the line with
 \endoldmiscstyle probably looks like Voodoo, especially given that
 neither \endoldmiscstyle nor \endmiscstyle is ever mentioned again. Do
 it anyway: Somehow, when an environment \whatever is made, LaTeX seems
 to make a corresponding \endwhatever that gets executed upon
 \whatever's completion. I've personally had situations where this idiom
 didn't work unless I put in the line:
 
 \let\endoldmiscstyle=\endmiscstyle
 
 It's best not to give too much thought to such thing as it could screw
 up your brain --- just do it.
 
  
  So much for the principle. Any advice on where to find out about the
  practice (at beginner level) would be appreciated.
 
 I gave a beginners-eye view of making your own layout here:
 
 http://www.troubleshooters.com/lpm/200210/200210.htm#_MakingYourOwnLayout
 
 If I were you, I'd read the entire document, in order. 
 
 http://www.troubleshooters.com/lpm/200210/200210.htm
 
 I'd estimate it would be about a day to assimilate all the information,
 and you'll get back your day after writing 200 pages of LyX-authored
 content, and from then on you'll benefit from the knowledge.
 
 WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING
 
 My document was written before LyX had a great facility for placing the
 layout file in the local directory. Unless you have a reason to believe
 that you'll use the same layout for lots of books (I never have), then
 use current directory layouts, like this:
 
 Document-Settings-Document_class-Local_layout_button
 
 WARNING: DEFINITION ALERT
 
 LyX now has two different definitions for Local Layout. Definition 1:
 Document-Settings-Document_class-Local_layout_button
 
 Definition 2: 
 Document-Settings-Local_layout
 
 Definition 1 refers to a layout file in the same directory as the
 document. Definition 2 refers to putting the text you would normally
 put in a layout file, into the document itself.
 
 I personally always do it with Definition 1 because I can use my editor
 of choice (which of course is Vim), and because I don't have to deal
 with the hassles of the Validate button.
 
 When you use a Definition 1 layout file, be sure to Tools-Reconfigure
 and then restart LyX after every change to the layout file. This hassle
 is one reason I recommend a small test document while building and
 fine-tuning your layout. I often put everything in a shellscript that
 loops. There are people on this list who know how to do a reconfigure
 from the command line: Ask them how to do that --- makes it easier, but
 be careful, you need to be in the right directory when you issue that
 command.
 
 Lastly, I'd like to congratulate you. There are people in this world
 who say Oh, LyX is trivially easy, anyone can use it!. Those people
 have no credibility with me, because they've obviously always used
 LyX defaults and have never made layout files. In making your layout
 file, you become a LyX journeyman, with its attendant credibility.
 
 Thanks,
 
 SteveT
 
 Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
 Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance
 
 
Steve  Guenter

Steve
Thanks for your long and prompt reply. It was your document on creating a 
layout that I looked

Re: Beginners need to tweak layout

[Mark Horton]

Steve Litt  troubleshooters.com> writes:

> 
> On Tue, 29 Oct 2013 16:43:02 + (UTC)
> Mark Horton  yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > Hi I am a beginner in Lyx and understand a bit about the principles
> > of Latex. I understand the advantages of a "fixed" layout and have
> > seen some code to create a simple one. However it looks like a very
> > steep learning curve. 
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> You're exactly right. LaTeX, and therefore layouts, have a steep
> learning curve. I'd recommend you make your first one in the same
> directory as your document, but test it with a tiny test document.
> 
> > 
> > All I would like to do is 2 little adjustments to the standard "book"
> > layout. It looks fine on A4 paper but when dropping down to A5 paper
> > the space around the Chapter heading text is too big and the Chapter
> > heading text is too big.
> > 
> > I believe there are two possible routes, something about a "local"
> > module to override current settings which would be best. Or if
> > possible get the original source for the book layout and create my
> > own local layout from it. (But I wouldn't know where to find that..
> > or if it is available)
> 
> That's a last resort, Mark. It's best just to specify only the changes,
> if possible, rather than rewriting the whole environment and modifying
> it.
> 
> Here's the idiomatic way people specify the changes:
> 
> \let\oldmiscstyle=\miscstyle
> \let\endoldmiscstyle=\endmiscstyle
> \renewenvironment{miscstyle}{
>   %%% Stuff to do before invoking original environment
>   \begin{oldmiscstyle}
>    Stuff to do after invoking original, but before the text
> }{
>    Stuff to do before ending original, but after text
>   \end{oldmiscstyle}
>    Stuff to do after original environment ends
> }
> 
> Mark, if you've been a software developer in the past, the line with
> \endoldmiscstyle probably looks like Voodoo, especially given that
> neither \endoldmiscstyle nor \endmiscstyle is ever mentioned again. Do
> it anyway: Somehow, when an environment \whatever is made, LaTeX seems
> to make a corresponding \endwhatever that gets executed upon
> \whatever's completion. I've personally had situations where this idiom
> didn't work unless I put in the line:
> 
> \let\endoldmiscstyle=\endmiscstyle
> 
> It's best not to give too much thought to such thing as it could screw
> up your brain --- just do it.
> 
> > 
> > So much for the principle. Any advice on where to find out about the
> > practice (at beginner level) would be appreciated.
> 
> I gave a beginners-eye view of making your own layout here:
> 
> http://www.troubleshooters.com/lpm/200210/200210.htm#_MakingYourOwnLayout
> 
> If I were you, I'd read the entire document, in order. 
> 
> http://www.troubleshooters.com/lpm/200210/200210.htm
> 
> I'd estimate it would be about a day to assimilate all the information,
> and you'll get back your day after writing 200 pages of LyX-authored
> content, and from then on you'll benefit from the knowledge.
> 
> WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING
> 
> My document was written before LyX had a great facility for placing the
> layout file in the local directory. Unless you have a reason to believe
> that you'll use the same layout for lots of books (I never have), then
> use current directory layouts, like this:
> 
> Document->Settings->Document_class->Local_layout_button
> 
> WARNING: DEFINITION ALERT
> 
> LyX now has two different definitions for "Local Layout". Definition 1:
> Document->Settings->Document_class->Local_layout_button
> 
> Definition 2: 
> Document->Settings->Local_layout
> 
> Definition 1 refers to a layout file in the same directory as the
> document. Definition 2 refers to putting the text you would normally
> put in a layout file, into the document itself.
> 
> I personally always do it with Definition 1 because I can use my editor
> of choice (which of course is Vim), and because I don't have to deal
> with the hassles of the Validate button.
> 
> When you use a Definition 1 layout file, be sure to Tools->Reconfigure
> and then restart LyX after every change to the layout file. This hassle
> is one reason I recommend a small test document while building and
> fine-tuning your layout. I often put everything in a shellscript that
> loops. There are people on this list who know how to do a reconfigure
> from the command line: Ask them how to do that --- makes it easier, but
> be careful, you need to be in the right directory when you issue that
> command.
> 
> Lastly, I'd like to con

Beginners need to tweak layout

[Mark Horton]

Hi I am a beginner in Lyx and understand a bit about the principles of Latex. 
I understand the advantages of a fixed layout and have seen some code to 
create a simple one. However it looks like a very steep learning curve. 

All I would like to do is 2 little adjustments to the standard book layout. 
It looks fine on A4 paper but when dropping down to A5 paper the space around 
the Chapter heading text is too big and the Chapter heading text is too big.

I believe there are two possible routes, something about a local module to 
override current settings which would be best. Or if possible get the original 
source for the book layout and create my own local layout from it. (But I 
wouldn't know where to find that.. or if it is available)

So much for the principle. Any advice on where to find out about the practice 
(at beginner level) would be appreciated.

(needed but not urgently required)

Best Regards

Mark H  :-)

Beginners need to tweak layout

[Mark Horton]

Hi I am a beginner in Lyx and understand a bit about the principles of Latex. 
I understand the advantages of a fixed layout and have seen some code to 
create a simple one. However it looks like a very steep learning curve. 

All I would like to do is 2 little adjustments to the standard book layout. 
It looks fine on A4 paper but when dropping down to A5 paper the space around 
the Chapter heading text is too big and the Chapter heading text is too big.

I believe there are two possible routes, something about a local module to 
override current settings which would be best. Or if possible get the original 
source for the book layout and create my own local layout from it. (But I 
wouldn't know where to find that.. or if it is available)

So much for the principle. Any advice on where to find out about the practice 
(at beginner level) would be appreciated.

(needed but not urgently required)

Best Regards

Mark H  :-)

Beginners need to tweak layout

[Mark Horton]

Hi I am a beginner in Lyx and understand a bit about the principles of Latex. 
I understand the advantages of a "fixed" layout and have seen some code to 
create a simple one. However it looks like a very steep learning curve. 

All I would like to do is 2 little adjustments to the standard "book" layout. 
It looks fine on A4 paper but when dropping down to A5 paper the space around 
the Chapter heading text is too big and the Chapter heading text is too big.

I believe there are two possible routes, something about a "local" module to 
override current settings which would be best. Or if possible get the original 
source for the book layout and create my own local layout from it. (But I 
wouldn't know where to find that.. or if it is available)

So much for the principle. Any advice on where to find out about the practice 
(at beginner level) would be appreciated.

(needed but not urgently required)

Best Regards

Mark H  :-)

Re: LyX XMPP-Enhanced Chat

[Mark Livingstone]

Wow, I could see how that could be quite useful in collaborative efforts!

Well done, and I hope it gets picked up!

Cheers,

MArkL



On 21 October 2013 10:54, Tommaso Cucinotta tomm...@lyx.org wrote:

 Hi all,

 I couldn't resist the temptation in the end, and I refined a bit
 that patch for a LyX Chat, going forward along the QXMPP path.

 I just attached the new patch to the original ticket:

   http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/7964

 and being XMPP-based, it also interoperates nicely with Pidgin for
 example, as shown in the VIDEO AT:

   www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQnVxbX8A3w

 Plus, it doesn't need any chat server from the LyX side, as the many
 existing XMPP ones
 can easily be used (as in the shown example, where I'm using jabber.org).

 Comments are welcome of course, as always.

 T.

Re: LyX XMPP-Enhanced Chat

[Mark Livingstone]

Wow, I could see how that could be quite useful in collaborative efforts!

Well done, and I hope it gets picked up!

Cheers,

MArkL



On 21 October 2013 10:54, Tommaso Cucinotta tomm...@lyx.org wrote:

 Hi all,

 I couldn't resist the temptation in the end, and I refined a bit
 that patch for a LyX Chat, going forward along the QXMPP path.

 I just attached the new patch to the original ticket:

   http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/7964

 and being XMPP-based, it also interoperates nicely with Pidgin for
 example, as shown in the VIDEO AT:

   www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQnVxbX8A3w

 Plus, it doesn't need any chat server from the LyX side, as the many
 existing XMPP ones
 can easily be used (as in the shown example, where I'm using jabber.org).

 Comments are welcome of course, as always.

 T.

Re: LyX XMPP-Enhanced Chat

[Mark Livingstone]

Wow, I could see how that could be quite useful in collaborative efforts!

Well done, and I hope it gets picked up!

Cheers,

MArkL



On 21 October 2013 10:54, Tommaso Cucinotta  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I couldn't resist the temptation in the end, and I refined a bit
> that patch for a LyX Chat, going forward along the QXMPP path.
>
> I just attached the new patch to the original ticket:
>
>   http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/7964
>
> and being XMPP-based, it also interoperates nicely with Pidgin for
> example, as shown in the VIDEO AT:
>
>   www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQnVxbX8A3w
>
> Plus, it doesn't need any chat server from the LyX side, as the many
> existing XMPP ones
> can easily be used (as in the shown example, where I'm using jabber.org).
>
> Comments are welcome of course, as always.
>
> T.
>
>

Re: New Feature Request: Chapter Contents

[Mark Horton]

Guenter Milde milde at users.sf.net writes:

 
 On 2013-10-13, Andrew Parsloe wrote:
  On 14/10/2013 5:35 a.m., Mark Horton wrote:
  Mark Horton mark.horton001 at yahoo.co.uk writes:
 
 ...
 
  However I am still getting the problem of being unable to control the 
depth
  of the initial Table of contents.
 
  This is controlled in LyX by going to Document  Settings  Numbering  
  TOC and adjusting the slider.
 
 And if you open ViewSource and click whole document, you will see the
 correct LaTeX code inserted into the document preamble to customize the
 tocdepth 
 
 Günter
 

Hi All

This all seems to be working now thanks to your help. :-) 


Andrew: The only thing not quite resolved is a new issue, that binary 
file. I can't seem to open or import it. So I can't even change the 
compression setting.  

Best Wishes

Mark :-)

Re: New Feature Request: Chapter Contents

[Mark Horton]

Guenter Milde milde at users.sf.net writes:

 
 On 2013-10-13, Andrew Parsloe wrote:
  On 14/10/2013 5:35 a.m., Mark Horton wrote:
  Mark Horton mark.horton001 at yahoo.co.uk writes:
 
 ...
 
  However I am still getting the problem of being unable to control the 
depth
  of the initial Table of contents.
 
  This is controlled in LyX by going to Document  Settings  Numbering  
  TOC and adjusting the slider.
 
 And if you open ViewSource and click whole document, you will see the
 correct LaTeX code inserted into the document preamble to customize the
 tocdepth 
 
 Günter
 

Hi All

This all seems to be working now thanks to your help. :-) 


Andrew: The only thing not quite resolved is a new issue, that binary 
file. I can't seem to open or import it. So I can't even change the 
compression setting.  

Best Wishes

Mark :-)

Re: New Feature Request: Chapter Contents

[Mark Horton]

Guenter Milde  users.sf.net> writes:

> 
> On 2013-10-13, Andrew Parsloe wrote:
> > On 14/10/2013 5:35 a.m., Mark Horton wrote:
> >> Mark Horton  yahoo.co.uk> writes:
> 
> ...
> 
> >> However I am still getting the problem of being unable to control the 
depth
> >> of the initial Table of contents.
> 
> > This is controlled in LyX by going to Document > Settings > Numbering & 
> > TOC and adjusting the slider.
> 
> And if you open View>Source and click "whole document", you will see the
> correct LaTeX code inserted into the document preamble to customize the
> tocdepth 
> 
> Günter
> 
>
Hi All

This all seems to be working now thanks to your help. :-) 


Andrew: The only thing not quite resolved is a "new" issue, that binary 
file. I can't seem to open or import it. So I can't even change the 
compression setting.  

Best Wishes

Mark :-)

Re: New Feature Request: Chapter Contents

[Mark Horton]

Andrew Parsloe aparsloe at clear.net.nz writes:

 
 
 On 9/10/2013 11:34 a.m., Andrew Parsloe wrote:
 
  Stephano has replied, but he has not used MikTeX and doesn't use 
windows.
  Combining that with my near complete ignorance he has quite sensibly
  suggested I try to find out about installing packages with MikTeX.
 
  Having so far managed to produce a pretty impressive document (if only 
by
  weight) in LyX I am quite keen to keep it up and finish it in LyX if I
  can.
 
 
  Mark
 
 
  Have you managed to produce a pdf version of your document? If you have
  then you most likely already have MiKTeX installed on your system. Go to
  the Start button,  click on All Programs and scan down the list to
  MiKTeX, click on that, then on Maintenance, then on Package Manager.
  Scan down the list of packages until you come to minitoc. If it is
  already installed there will be a date in the Installed on column. If
  not, select minitoc and click the + button, upper left of the package
  manager window. Assuming you are currently connected to the internet,
  the minitoc package will be downloaded and installed for you.
 
  I omitted one item in the recipe for using minitoc in my previous
  posting. The sequence is this:
 
  1. Add \usepackage{minitoc} to your document preamble
 
  2. Insert \dominitoc in ERT (or TeX code) *before* your document's table
  of contents
 
  3. After each chapter heading insert \minitoc in ERT
 
  That's it. All the rest is tinkering or catering for special
  circumstances. The minitoc documentation is large, but only the first
  two chapters are relevant to the user.
 
  Andrew
 
 
 Further to the above, I've attached a summary about using minitoc with 
 LyX -- changing various settings. I was going to put it on the wiki, but 
 it's not clear to me exactly where to put it.
 
 Andrew
 
 Attachment (minitoc.lyx): application/x-lyx, 13 KiB


Hi Andrew

Thanks for that, I have a bit of your solution working...

Firstly your attached file is Binary, and I don't know what to do with it, 
it may lead to the info I need. If it is a link to the minitoc user manual I 
have it.

Next I tried to edit the latex “source”, as described. Because that doesn’t 
seem to be possible in Lyx I used TexWorks,  as found in the MiTeX2.9 
directory. 
However this meant exporting from Lyx to latex plain format. After doing the 
edits and re-importing back into Lyx I found that firstly the links to 
graphics were broken. The loss of graphics is not  a major problem because 
there are only 9 graphics in the whole document.
More of a problem (I think) is that I cannot view what I have done so far, 
(I have not used any option settings just put code in as suggested.) because 
lots of errors come up.
For the graphics there are…
LaTeX Error: Cannot determine size of graphic in 
C:/stringC:/Users/Mark/Download
For the command lines you said to insert there are…
Undefined control sequence.

Nevertheless I have continued to work in TeXworks to see how far I can get. 
With the Tables of Contents and have got quite far…
 The new mini TOC’s seem to be behaving ok, and respond to depth changes,  
but the initial Table of Contents still lists everything. I have tried a 
number of things including…
\setcounter{minitocdepth}{1}
\dominitoc
\tableofcontents

Or …

\mtcsetdepth{minitoc}{1}
\dominitoc
\tableofcontents

But whatever figure I put in, the initial TOC depth remains unchanged, 
listing everything.
I am probably missing something obvious, or it will be when pointed out :-)

Best Regards
Mark :-) 

Re: New Feature Request: Chapter Contents

[Mark Horton]

Mark Horton mark.horton001 at yahoo.co.uk writes:


 Nevertheless I have continued to work in TeXworks to see how far I can 
get. 
 With the Tables of Contents and have got quite far…
  The new mini TOC’s seem to be behaving ok, and respond to depth changes,  
 but the initial Table of Contents still lists everything. I have tried a 
 number of things including…
 \setcounter{minitocdepth}{1}
 \dominitoc
 \tableofcontents
 
 Or …
 
 \mtcsetdepth{minitoc}{1}
 \dominitoc
 \tableofcontents
 
 But whatever figure I put in, the initial TOC depth remains unchanged, 
 listing everything.
 I am probably missing something obvious, or it will be when pointed out 
 
 Best Regards
 Mark  
 
 

An update...

I have now inserted the commands into a Lyx document using the Lyx 
environment.
However I am still getting the problem of being unable to control the depth 
of the initial Table of contents.

Re: New Feature Request: Chapter Contents

[Mark Horton]

Andrew Parsloe aparsloe at clear.net.nz writes:

 
 
 On 9/10/2013 11:34 a.m., Andrew Parsloe wrote:
 
  Stephano has replied, but he has not used MikTeX and doesn't use 
windows.
  Combining that with my near complete ignorance he has quite sensibly
  suggested I try to find out about installing packages with MikTeX.
 
  Having so far managed to produce a pretty impressive document (if only 
by
  weight) in LyX I am quite keen to keep it up and finish it in LyX if I
  can.
 
 
  Mark
 
 
  Have you managed to produce a pdf version of your document? If you have
  then you most likely already have MiKTeX installed on your system. Go to
  the Start button,  click on All Programs and scan down the list to
  MiKTeX, click on that, then on Maintenance, then on Package Manager.
  Scan down the list of packages until you come to minitoc. If it is
  already installed there will be a date in the Installed on column. If
  not, select minitoc and click the + button, upper left of the package
  manager window. Assuming you are currently connected to the internet,
  the minitoc package will be downloaded and installed for you.
 
  I omitted one item in the recipe for using minitoc in my previous
  posting. The sequence is this:
 
  1. Add \usepackage{minitoc} to your document preamble
 
  2. Insert \dominitoc in ERT (or TeX code) *before* your document's table
  of contents
 
  3. After each chapter heading insert \minitoc in ERT
 
  That's it. All the rest is tinkering or catering for special
  circumstances. The minitoc documentation is large, but only the first
  two chapters are relevant to the user.
 
  Andrew
 
 
 Further to the above, I've attached a summary about using minitoc with 
 LyX -- changing various settings. I was going to put it on the wiki, but 
 it's not clear to me exactly where to put it.
 
 Andrew
 
 Attachment (minitoc.lyx): application/x-lyx, 13 KiB


Hi Andrew

Thanks for that, I have a bit of your solution working...

Firstly your attached file is Binary, and I don't know what to do with it, 
it may lead to the info I need. If it is a link to the minitoc user manual I 
have it.

Next I tried to edit the latex “source”, as described. Because that doesn’t 
seem to be possible in Lyx I used TexWorks,  as found in the MiTeX2.9 
directory. 
However this meant exporting from Lyx to latex plain format. After doing the 
edits and re-importing back into Lyx I found that firstly the links to 
graphics were broken. The loss of graphics is not  a major problem because 
there are only 9 graphics in the whole document.
More of a problem (I think) is that I cannot view what I have done so far, 
(I have not used any option settings just put code in as suggested.) because 
lots of errors come up.
For the graphics there are…
LaTeX Error: Cannot determine size of graphic in 
C:/stringC:/Users/Mark/Download
For the command lines you said to insert there are…
Undefined control sequence.

Nevertheless I have continued to work in TeXworks to see how far I can get. 
With the Tables of Contents and have got quite far…
 The new mini TOC’s seem to be behaving ok, and respond to depth changes,  
but the initial Table of Contents still lists everything. I have tried a 
number of things including…
\setcounter{minitocdepth}{1}
\dominitoc
\tableofcontents

Or …

\mtcsetdepth{minitoc}{1}
\dominitoc
\tableofcontents

But whatever figure I put in, the initial TOC depth remains unchanged, 
listing everything.
I am probably missing something obvious, or it will be when pointed out :-)

Best Regards
Mark :-) 

Re: New Feature Request: Chapter Contents

[Mark Horton]

Mark Horton mark.horton001 at yahoo.co.uk writes:


 Nevertheless I have continued to work in TeXworks to see how far I can 
get. 
 With the Tables of Contents and have got quite far…
  The new mini TOC’s seem to be behaving ok, and respond to depth changes,  
 but the initial Table of Contents still lists everything. I have tried a 
 number of things including…
 \setcounter{minitocdepth}{1}
 \dominitoc
 \tableofcontents
 
 Or …
 
 \mtcsetdepth{minitoc}{1}
 \dominitoc
 \tableofcontents
 
 But whatever figure I put in, the initial TOC depth remains unchanged, 
 listing everything.
 I am probably missing something obvious, or it will be when pointed out 
 
 Best Regards
 Mark  
 
 

An update...

I have now inserted the commands into a Lyx document using the Lyx 
environment.
However I am still getting the problem of being unable to control the depth 
of the initial Table of contents.

Re: New Feature Request: Chapter Contents

[Mark Horton]

Andrew Parsloe  clear.net.nz> writes:

> 
> 
> On 9/10/2013 11:34 a.m., Andrew Parsloe wrote:
> >
> >> Stephano has replied, but he has not used MikTeX and doesn't use 
windows.
> >> Combining that with my near complete ignorance he has quite sensibly
> >> suggested I try to find out about installing packages with MikTeX.
> >>
> >> Having so far managed to produce a pretty impressive document (if only 
by
> >> weight) in LyX I am quite keen to keep it up and finish it in LyX if I
> >> can.
> >>
> >>
> >> Mark
> >>
> >
> > Have you managed to produce a pdf version of your document? If you have
> > then you most likely already have MiKTeX installed on your system. Go to
> > the Start button,  click on All Programs and scan down the list to
> > MiKTeX, click on that, then on Maintenance, then on Package Manager.
> > Scan down the list of packages until you come to minitoc. If it is
> > already installed there will be a date in the "Installed on" column. If
> > not, select minitoc and click the + button, upper left of the package
> > manager window. Assuming you are currently connected to the internet,
> > the minitoc package will be downloaded and installed for you.
> >
> > I omitted one item in the recipe for using minitoc in my previous
> > posting. The sequence is this:
> >
> > 1. Add \usepackage{minitoc} to your document preamble
> >
> > 2. Insert \dominitoc in ERT (or TeX code) *before* your document's table
> > of contents
> >
> > 3. After each chapter heading insert \minitoc in ERT
> >
> > That's it. All the rest is tinkering or catering for special
> > circumstances. The minitoc documentation is large, but only the first
> > two chapters are relevant to the user.
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> 
> Further to the above, I've attached a summary about using minitoc with 
> LyX -- changing various settings. I was going to put it on the wiki, but 
> it's not clear to me exactly where to put it.
> 
> Andrew
> 
> Attachment (minitoc.lyx): application/x-lyx, 13 KiB


Hi Andrew

Thanks for that, I have a bit of your solution working...

Firstly your attached file is Binary, and I don't know what to do with it, 
it may lead to the info I need. If it is a link to the minitoc user manual I 
have it.

Next I tried to edit the latex “source”, as described. Because that doesn’t 
seem to be possible in Lyx I used TexWorks,  as found in the MiTeX2.9 
directory. 
However this meant exporting from Lyx to latex plain format. After doing the 
edits and re-importing back into Lyx I found that firstly the links to 
graphics were broken. The loss of graphics is not  a major problem because 
there are only 9 graphics in the whole document.
More of a problem (I think) is that I cannot view what I have done so far, 
(I have not used any option settings just put code in as suggested.) because 
lots of errors come up.
For the graphics there are…
LaTeX Error: Cannot determine size of graphic in 
C:/string"C:/Users/Mark/Download
For the command lines you said to insert there are…
Undefined control sequence.

Nevertheless I have continued to work in TeXworks to see how far I can get. 
With the Tables of Contents and have got quite far…
 The new mini TOC’s seem to be behaving ok, and respond to depth changes,  
but the initial Table of Contents still lists everything. I have tried a 
number of things including…
\setcounter{minitocdepth}{1}
\dominitoc
\tableofcontents

Or …

\mtcsetdepth{minitoc}{1}
\dominitoc
\tableofcontents

But whatever figure I put in, the initial TOC depth remains unchanged, 
listing everything.
I am probably missing something obvious, or it will be when pointed out :-)

Best Regards
Mark :-) 

Re: New Feature Request: Chapter Contents

[Mark Horton]

Mark Horton  yahoo.co.uk> writes:


> Nevertheless I have continued to work in TeXworks to see how far I can 
get. 
> With the Tables of Contents and have got quite far…
>  The new mini TOC’s seem to be behaving ok, and respond to depth changes,  
> but the initial Table of Contents still lists everything. I have tried a 
> number of things including…
> \setcounter{minitocdepth}{1}
> \dominitoc
> \tableofcontents
> 
> Or …
> 
> \mtcsetdepth{minitoc}{1}
> \dominitoc
> \tableofcontents
> 
> But whatever figure I put in, the initial TOC depth remains unchanged, 
> listing everything.
> I am probably missing something obvious, or it will be when pointed out 
> 
> Best Regards
> Mark  
> 
> 

An update...

I have now inserted the commands into a Lyx document using the Lyx 
environment.
However I am still getting the problem of being unable to control the depth 
of the initial Table of contents.

Re: New Feature Request: Chapter Contents

[Mark Horton]

stefano franchi stefano.franchi at gmail.com writes:

 
 
 
 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Mark Horton mark.horton001 at 
yahoo.co.uk wrote:I found the package to do the job called Minitoc. 
 Unfortunately being anignorant beginner in this field  I don't know how to 
Install it  and make
 it work from Latex.
 
 
 
 Mark,
 
 installation of a Latex package is usually done, nowadays, by invoking the 
TeX package manager used by your TeX distribution. But there are several of 
those, and we can't help you further unless you tell us more about your 
system. Which platform are you on? Linux, Mac, Windows? How did you install 
(La)TeX? Detailed instructions on how to install the minitoc package depends 
on the answers to those questions.Cheers,Stefano
 
  
 
 
 -- __Stefano 
FranchiAssociate Research ProfessorDepartment of Hispanic Studies            
Ph:   +1 (979) 845-2125
 Texas AM University                          Fax:  +1 (979) 845-
6421College Station, Texas, USAstefano at 
tamu.eduhttp://stefano.cleinias.org
 
 
Wow Thanks Stephano, this is a very helpful group.

I am Using Windows 7 Home Premium and Lyx ver 2.06
I have downloaded an upgrade and don't remember exactly how I did the 
original.
I do remember it was very simple. I downloaded the Lyx file and then ran the 
Lyx installer application, choosing whatever defaults were offered. 
I don't recall installing La(Tex) in a separate process.

Regards

Mark :-)
 

Re: New Feature Request: Chapter Contents

[Mark Horton]

Mark Horton mark.horton001 at yahoo.co.uk writes:

 
 stefano franchi stefano.franchi at gmail.com writes:
 
  
  
  
  On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Mark Horton mark.horton001 at 
 yahoo.co.uk wrote:I found the package to do the job called Minitoc. 
  Unfortunately being anignorant beginner in this field  I don't know how 
to 
 Install it  and make
  it work from Latex.
  
  
  
  Mark,
  
  installation of a Latex package is usually done, nowadays, by invoking 
the 
 TeX package manager used by your TeX distribution. But there are several 
of 
 those, and we can't help you further unless you tell us more about your 
 system. Which platform are you on? Linux, Mac, Windows? How did you 
install 
 (La)TeX? Detailed instructions on how to install the minitoc package 
depends 
 on the answers to those questions.Cheers,Stefano
  
   
  
  
  -- __Stefano 
 FranchiAssociate Research ProfessorDepartment of Hispanic Studies         
   
 Ph:   +1 (979) 845-2125
  Texas AM University                          Fax:  +1 (979) 845-
 6421College Station, Texas, USAstefano at 
 tamu.eduhttp://stefano.cleinias.org
  
  
 Wow Thanks Stephano, this is a very helpful group.
 
 I am Using Windows 7 Home Premium and Lyx ver 2.06
 I have downloaded an upgrade and don't remember exactly how I did the 
 original.
 I do remember it was very simple. I downloaded the Lyx file and then ran 
the 
 Lyx installer application, choosing whatever defaults were offered. 
 I don't recall installing La(Tex) in a separate process.
 
 Regards
 
 Mark 
 
 
Stephano has replied, but he has not used MikTeX and doesn't use windows. 
Combining that with my near complete ignorance he has quite sensibly 
suggested I try to find out about installing packages with MikTeX.

Having so far managed to produce a pretty impressive document (if only by 
weight) in LyX I am quite keen to keep it up and finish it in LyX if I can.


Mark  

Re: New Feature Request: Chapter Contents

[Mark Horton]

stefano franchi stefano.franchi at gmail.com writes:

 
 
 
 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Mark Horton mark.horton001 at 
yahoo.co.uk wrote:I found the package to do the job called Minitoc. 
 Unfortunately being anignorant beginner in this field  I don't know how to 
Install it  and make
 it work from Latex.
 
 
 
 Mark,
 
 installation of a Latex package is usually done, nowadays, by invoking the 
TeX package manager used by your TeX distribution. But there are several of 
those, and we can't help you further unless you tell us more about your 
system. Which platform are you on? Linux, Mac, Windows? How did you install 
(La)TeX? Detailed instructions on how to install the minitoc package depends 
on the answers to those questions.Cheers,Stefano
 
  
 
 
 -- __Stefano 
FranchiAssociate Research ProfessorDepartment of Hispanic Studies            
Ph:   +1 (979) 845-2125
 Texas AM University                          Fax:  +1 (979) 845-
6421College Station, Texas, USAstefano at 
tamu.eduhttp://stefano.cleinias.org
 
 
Wow Thanks Stephano, this is a very helpful group.

I am Using Windows 7 Home Premium and Lyx ver 2.06
I have downloaded an upgrade and don't remember exactly how I did the 
original.
I do remember it was very simple. I downloaded the Lyx file and then ran the 
Lyx installer application, choosing whatever defaults were offered. 
I don't recall installing La(Tex) in a separate process.

Regards

Mark :-)
 

Re: New Feature Request: Chapter Contents

[Mark Horton]

Mark Horton mark.horton001 at yahoo.co.uk writes:

 
 stefano franchi stefano.franchi at gmail.com writes:
 
  
  
  
  On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Mark Horton mark.horton001 at 
 yahoo.co.uk wrote:I found the package to do the job called Minitoc. 
  Unfortunately being anignorant beginner in this field  I don't know how 
to 
 Install it  and make
  it work from Latex.
  
  
  
  Mark,
  
  installation of a Latex package is usually done, nowadays, by invoking 
the 
 TeX package manager used by your TeX distribution. But there are several 
of 
 those, and we can't help you further unless you tell us more about your 
 system. Which platform are you on? Linux, Mac, Windows? How did you 
install 
 (La)TeX? Detailed instructions on how to install the minitoc package 
depends 
 on the answers to those questions.Cheers,Stefano
  
   
  
  
  -- __Stefano 
 FranchiAssociate Research ProfessorDepartment of Hispanic Studies         
   
 Ph:   +1 (979) 845-2125
  Texas AM University                          Fax:  +1 (979) 845-
 6421College Station, Texas, USAstefano at 
 tamu.eduhttp://stefano.cleinias.org
  
  
 Wow Thanks Stephano, this is a very helpful group.
 
 I am Using Windows 7 Home Premium and Lyx ver 2.06
 I have downloaded an upgrade and don't remember exactly how I did the 
 original.
 I do remember it was very simple. I downloaded the Lyx file and then ran 
the 
 Lyx installer application, choosing whatever defaults were offered. 
 I don't recall installing La(Tex) in a separate process.
 
 Regards
 
 Mark 
 
 
Stephano has replied, but he has not used MikTeX and doesn't use windows. 
Combining that with my near complete ignorance he has quite sensibly 
suggested I try to find out about installing packages with MikTeX.

Having so far managed to produce a pretty impressive document (if only by 
weight) in LyX I am quite keen to keep it up and finish it in LyX if I can.


Mark  

Re: New Feature Request: Chapter Contents

[Mark Horton]

stefano franchi  gmail.com> writes:

> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Mark Horton  
yahoo.co.uk> wrote:I found the "package" to do the job called Minitoc. 
 Unfortunately being anignorant beginner in this field  I don't know how to 
"Install it " and make
> it work from Latex.
> 
> 
> 
> Mark,
> 
> installation of a Latex package is usually done, nowadays, by invoking the 
TeX package manager used by your TeX distribution. But there are several of 
those, and we can't help you further unless you tell us more about your 
system. Which platform are you on? Linux, Mac, Windows? How did you install 
(La)TeX? Detailed instructions on how to install the minitoc package depends 
on the answers to those questions.Cheers,Stefano
> 
>  
> 
> 
> -- __Stefano 
FranchiAssociate Research ProfessorDepartment of Hispanic Studies            
Ph:   +1 (979) 845-2125
> Texas A University                          Fax:  +1 (979) 845-
6421College Station, Texas, USAstefano  
tamu.eduhttp://stefano.cleinias.org
> 
> 
Wow Thanks Stephano, this is a very helpful group.

I am Using Windows 7 Home Premium and Lyx ver 2.06
I have downloaded an upgrade and don't remember exactly how I did the 
original.
I do remember it was very simple. I downloaded the Lyx file and then ran the 
Lyx installer application, choosing whatever defaults were offered. 
I don't recall installing La(Tex) in a separate process.

Regards

Mark :-)
 

Re: New Feature Request: Chapter Contents

[Mark Horton]

Mark Horton  yahoo.co.uk> writes:

> 
> stefano franchi  gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Mark Horton  
> yahoo.co.uk> wrote:I found the "package" to do the job called Minitoc. 
>  Unfortunately being anignorant beginner in this field  I don't know how 
to 
> "Install it " and make
> > it work from Latex.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Mark,
> > 
> > installation of a Latex package is usually done, nowadays, by invoking 
the 
> TeX package manager used by your TeX distribution. But there are several 
of 
> those, and we can't help you further unless you tell us more about your 
> system. Which platform are you on? Linux, Mac, Windows? How did you 
install 
> (La)TeX? Detailed instructions on how to install the minitoc package 
depends 
> on the answers to those questions.Cheers,Stefano
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > -- __Stefano 
> FranchiAssociate Research ProfessorDepartment of Hispanic Studies         
   
> Ph:   +1 (979) 845-2125
> > Texas A University                          Fax:  +1 (979) 845-
> 6421College Station, Texas, USAstefano  
> tamu.eduhttp://stefano.cleinias.org
> > 
> > 
> Wow Thanks Stephano, this is a very helpful group.
> 
> I am Using Windows 7 Home Premium and Lyx ver 2.06
> I have downloaded an upgrade and don't remember exactly how I did the 
> original.
> I do remember it was very simple. I downloaded the Lyx file and then ran 
the 
> Lyx installer application, choosing whatever defaults were offered. 
> I don't recall installing La(Tex) in a separate process.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Mark 
> 
> 
Stephano has replied, but he has not used MikTeX and doesn't use windows. 
Combining that with my near complete ignorance he has quite sensibly 
suggested I try to find out about installing packages with MikTeX.

Having so far managed to produce a pretty impressive document (if only by 
weight) in LyX I am quite keen to keep it up and finish it in LyX if I can.


Mark  

Re: New Feature Request: Chapter Contents

[Mark Horton]

Guenter Milde milde at users.sf.net writes:

 
 On 2013-10-06, Andrew Parsloe wrote:
  On 7/10/2013 4:49 a.m., Richard Heck wrote:
  On 10/06/2013 07:33 AM, Mark Horton wrote:
  Hi Developers
 
  It would make navigation a lot easier for large documents if we had 
the
  the ability to generate a contents of Chapters at the start.
 
  Plus a more detailed contents page at the start of each Chapter.
 
 ...
 
  I've used the LaTeX minitoc package successfully with LyX for a large 
  book (600 pages). It creates a table of contents for each chapter, 
  inserted at the start of the chapter. I restricted the main TOC at the 
  start of the book to section level, but each chapter TOC was to 
  subsubsection level. Each chapter has \minitoc in ERT after the chapter 
  heading, but that's all, so ERT use is minimal. The preamble to the 
  master document (each chapter is a child document  has nothing in the 
  preamble) has
 
  \usepackage[tight]{minitoc}
  \setcounter{minitocdepth}{3}
  \setlength{\mtcindent}{24pt}
  \renewcommand{\mtcfont}{\small\rm}
  \renewcommand{\mtcSfont}{\small\bf}
  \renewcommand{\mtcSSSfont}{\footnotesize\it}
  \renewcommand{\mtctitle}{}
 
  which shows the kind of tailoring to individual whims that is possible.
 
 It should be fairly easy to create a LyX module to support the minitoc
 package.
 
 Günter
 
 
Hi Richard Andrew and Günter

Thanks for your replies.

I found the package to do the job called Minitoc.  Unfortunately being an 
ignorant beginner in this field  I don't know how to Install it  and make 
it work from Latex.

It appears to have no windows type executable or install files in the set I 
have downloaded. Though I guess some of them may be some sort of macro 
runable in Latex based software.

The installation instructions suggest were some files should go, but I 
haven't found were all of them should go yet. Even if they were all located 
it gives no indication as to what to do next. 
 
Is there somewhere on the LyX site which gives some general guide to the 
principles of installing such packages to use from Lyx?  Or am I thinking 
nonsense that won't happen for reasons I don't understand? Is the long 
learning curve of Latex the only way forwards for me?

Best Regards

Mark :-)

Re: New Feature Request: Chapter Contents

[Mark Horton]

Guenter Milde milde at users.sf.net writes:

 
 On 2013-10-06, Andrew Parsloe wrote:
  On 7/10/2013 4:49 a.m., Richard Heck wrote:
  On 10/06/2013 07:33 AM, Mark Horton wrote:
  Hi Developers
 
  It would make navigation a lot easier for large documents if we had 
the
  the ability to generate a contents of Chapters at the start.
 
  Plus a more detailed contents page at the start of each Chapter.
 
 ...
 
  I've used the LaTeX minitoc package successfully with LyX for a large 
  book (600 pages). It creates a table of contents for each chapter, 
  inserted at the start of the chapter. I restricted the main TOC at the 
  start of the book to section level, but each chapter TOC was to 
  subsubsection level. Each chapter has \minitoc in ERT after the chapter 
  heading, but that's all, so ERT use is minimal. The preamble to the 
  master document (each chapter is a child document  has nothing in the 
  preamble) has
 
  \usepackage[tight]{minitoc}
  \setcounter{minitocdepth}{3}
  \setlength{\mtcindent}{24pt}
  \renewcommand{\mtcfont}{\small\rm}
  \renewcommand{\mtcSfont}{\small\bf}
  \renewcommand{\mtcSSSfont}{\footnotesize\it}
  \renewcommand{\mtctitle}{}
 
  which shows the kind of tailoring to individual whims that is possible.
 
 It should be fairly easy to create a LyX module to support the minitoc
 package.
 
 Günter
 
 
Hi Richard Andrew and Günter

Thanks for your replies.

I found the package to do the job called Minitoc.  Unfortunately being an 
ignorant beginner in this field  I don't know how to Install it  and make 
it work from Latex.

It appears to have no windows type executable or install files in the set I 
have downloaded. Though I guess some of them may be some sort of macro 
runable in Latex based software.

The installation instructions suggest were some files should go, but I 
haven't found were all of them should go yet. Even if they were all located 
it gives no indication as to what to do next. 
 
Is there somewhere on the LyX site which gives some general guide to the 
principles of installing such packages to use from Lyx?  Or am I thinking 
nonsense that won't happen for reasons I don't understand? Is the long 
learning curve of Latex the only way forwards for me?

Best Regards

Mark :-)

Re: New Feature Request: Chapter Contents

[Mark Horton]

Guenter Milde  users.sf.net> writes:

> 
> On 2013-10-06, Andrew Parsloe wrote:
> > On 7/10/2013 4:49 a.m., Richard Heck wrote:
> >> On 10/06/2013 07:33 AM, Mark Horton wrote:
> >>> Hi Developers
> 
> >>> It would make navigation a lot easier for large documents if we had 
the
> >>> the ability to generate a contents of Chapters at the start.
> 
> >>> Plus a more detailed contents page at the start of each Chapter.
> 
> ...
> 
> > I've used the LaTeX minitoc package successfully with LyX for a large 
> > book (600 pages). It creates a table of contents for each chapter, 
> > inserted at the start of the chapter. I restricted the main TOC at the 
> > start of the book to section level, but each chapter TOC was to 
> > subsubsection level. Each chapter has \minitoc in ERT after the chapter 
> > heading, but that's all, so ERT use is minimal. The preamble to the 
> > master document (each chapter is a child document & has nothing in the 
> > preamble) has
> 
> > \usepackage[tight]{minitoc}
> > \setcounter{minitocdepth}{3}
> > \setlength{\mtcindent}{24pt}
> > \renewcommand{\mtcfont}{\small\rm}
> > \renewcommand{\mtcSfont}{\small\bf}
> > \renewcommand{\mtcSSSfont}{\footnotesize\it}
> > \renewcommand{\mtctitle}{}
> 
> > which shows the kind of tailoring to individual whims that is possible.
> 
> It should be fairly easy to create a LyX module to support the minitoc
> package.
> 
> Günter
> 
> 
Hi Richard Andrew and Günter

Thanks for your replies.

I found the "package" to do the job called Minitoc.  Unfortunately being an 
ignorant beginner in this field  I don't know how to "Install it " and make 
it work from Latex.

It appears to have no windows type executable or install files in the set I 
have downloaded. Though I guess some of them may be some sort of macro 
runable in Latex based software.

The installation "instructions" suggest were some files should go, but I 
haven't found were all of them should go yet. Even if they were all located 
it gives no indication as to what to do next. 
 
Is there somewhere on the LyX site which gives some general guide to the 
principles of installing such packages to use from Lyx?  Or am I thinking 
nonsense that won't happen for reasons I don't understand? Is the long 
learning curve of Latex the only way forwards for me?

Best Regards

Mark :-)

New Feature Request: Chapter Contents

[Mark Horton]

Hi Developers

It would make navigation a lot easier for large documents if we had the
the ability to generate a contents of Chapters at the start.

Plus a more detailed contents page at the start of each Chapter. 


Best Regards

Mark Horton

New Feature Request: Chapter Contents

[Mark Horton]

Hi Developers

It would make navigation a lot easier for large documents if we had the
the ability to generate a contents of Chapters at the start.

Plus a more detailed contents page at the start of each Chapter. 


Best Regards

Mark Horton

New Feature Request: Chapter Contents

[Mark Horton]

Hi Developers

It would make navigation a lot easier for large documents if we had the
the ability to generate a contents of Chapters at the start.

Plus a more detailed contents page at the start of each Chapter. 


Best Regards

Mark Horton

Lost labels

[Mark Mandelkern]

I have been using LyX with no problems for years, but now suddenly . . .

A paper is already 40 pages long, and has about 90 labels, with
many cross-references. Just today, when I look at a PDF output, the
cross-references are gone, only ?? shows in the PDF, for each cross-reference.

This is about internal cross-references, not bibliographic references.
All the labels and cross-references do show up okay in the paper and
in the left window.

Any suggestions?

Mark Mandelkern

Lost labels

[Mark Mandelkern]

I have been using LyX with no problems for years, but now suddenly . . .

A paper is already 40 pages long, and has about 90 labels, with
many cross-references. Just today, when I look at a PDF output, the
cross-references are gone, only ?? shows in the PDF, for each cross-reference.

This is about internal cross-references, not bibliographic references.
All the labels and cross-references do show up okay in the paper and
in the left window.

Any suggestions?

Mark Mandelkern

Lost labels

[Mark Mandelkern]

I have been using LyX with no problems for years, but now suddenly . . .

A paper is already 40 pages long, and has about 90 labels, with
many cross-references. Just today, when I look at a PDF output, the
cross-references are gone, only ?? shows in the PDF, for each cross-reference.

This is about internal cross-references, not bibliographic references.
All the labels and cross-references do show up okay in the paper and
in the left window.

Any suggestions?

Mark Mandelkern

Keyboard shortcut preferences file location

[Mark Spindler]

I have Windows 7 and LyX 2.0.5.1 on this machine. When I go to
ToolsPreferencesEditingShortcuts, it says cua at the top, and I can
see a lot of edits which have not gone away when updating LyX.

I would now like to move those to another Windows 7 machine, but I don't
know where my changes have been stored. They don't seem to have modified
...\Lyx 2.0\Resources\bind\cua.bind. Any help locating a file I can
copy/rename to get the same shortcuts on another computer would be greatly
appreciated.

-Mark Spindler

Keyboard shortcut preferences file location

[Mark Spindler]

I have Windows 7 and LyX 2.0.5.1 on this machine. When I go to
ToolsPreferencesEditingShortcuts, it says cua at the top, and I can
see a lot of edits which have not gone away when updating LyX.

I would now like to move those to another Windows 7 machine, but I don't
know where my changes have been stored. They don't seem to have modified
...\Lyx 2.0\Resources\bind\cua.bind. Any help locating a file I can
copy/rename to get the same shortcuts on another computer would be greatly
appreciated.

-Mark Spindler

Keyboard shortcut preferences file location

[Mark Spindler]

I have Windows 7 and LyX 2.0.5.1 on this machine. When I go to
Tools>Preferences>Editing>Shortcuts, it says "cua" at the top, and I can
see a lot of edits which have not gone away when updating LyX.

I would now like to move those to another Windows 7 machine, but I don't
know where my changes have been stored. They don't seem to have modified
...\Lyx 2.0\Resources\bind\cua.bind. Any help locating a file I can
copy/rename to get the same shortcuts on another computer would be greatly
appreciated.

-Mark Spindler

Working with Lyx and Sweave; pasting R-code from Emacs into Lyx seems awkward. Any suggestions?

[Mark Dalphin]

Hi,

I use Lyx for writing reports on data analysis. To incorporate results 
from those analysis, I use Sweave within Lyx. This is all nicely 
integrated in the recent versions of Lyx. There is one major 
inconvenience remaining for me, however, and that is described here.


I usually develop my R-code in Emacs (ESS-mode). This permits me to 
refine my tables and graphs before I incorporate them into Lyx. This is 
much faster as it interactive and avoids the time to run LaTeX (or 
export the R, etc etc). Then I write the text part of my report, and, in 
the Lyx scrap, I paste the required chunks of R-code. Nice and simple 
(thank you!). The problem is that when I paste the R-code from Emacs to 
the Lyx scrap, the End-Of-Line character gets converted into something 
else (a BLANK or some other white space, I guess), which is not 
acceptable to the R-parser when Sweave runs. This means that every paste 
operation is followed by many edit operations to convert the blanks back 
into new-lines.


Is is possible to prevent this mangling of the paste? Or could there be 
a right-click option to paste-retaining-newlines or something such 
item? Or is this a user-error and there is a better way to perform the 
actions I am describing (A wild example that I have not tried: in a 
blank Lyx window, import the Emacs file, then cut-and-paste from one Lyx 
buffer to another).


System: Linux (Kubuntu 8.04)
Lyx: 2.0.5.1, built from source.

Cut-and-paste: Standard Linux/X11, selecting with left-mouse button and 
pasting with center mouse button.


Regards,
Mark

--



   Mark Dalphin Ph.D.

Director of Bioinformatics

mark.dalp...@pacificedge.co.nz mailto:mark.dalp...@pacificedge.co.nz
*Ph:* +64-3-479-5805
*Cell:* +64-21-156-7625
*Skype:* mark.dalphin.pel
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http://twitter.com/#%21/pacificEdgeLtd 
http://www.youtube.com/PacificEdgeLtd


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attachment: mark_dalphin.vcf

Re: Working with Lyx and Sweave; pasting R-code from Emacs into Lyx seems awkward. Any suggestions?

[Mark Dalphin]

Thanks to both Scott Kostyshak and Yihui Xie (I appreciate Yihui not 
reminding me that he has already suggested I switch to knitr). I 
mis-wrote when I said scrap in my text; it is indeed the chunk into 
which I paste my text from Emacs.


When I use ctrl-shift-v into a chunk that I have pre-filled with 
echo=FALSE,fig=TRUE=\n (where \n means I am on the next line, 
not the literal characters), the first line adds correctly, then there 
is a blank line and change of paragraph type into Standard, with the 
remaining lines in that standard paragraph.


If I change my work order and paste-special into a Standard paragraph, 
it looks alright, but then selection of those lines and conversion to a 
Chunk paragraph yields a similar output: one good, chunk line, a blank 
line plus several lines in the following Standard paragraph.


Trying Yihui's ERT format seemed to paste correctly, however, I am left 
wondering then in what kind of paragraph should the ERT exist. Just as 
a stand-alone Standard paragraph? I can live with that if it leads to 
clean processing of my report. Does anyone have any comments on possible 
side-effects of using the ERT to contain the Sweave material?


Cheers,
Mark

Scott Kostyshak wrote:

On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 7:06 PM, Mark Dalphin
mark.dalp...@pacificedge.co.nz wrote:
  

I usually develop my R-code in Emacs (ESS-mode). This permits me to refine
my tables and graphs before I incorporate them into Lyx. This is much faster
as it interactive and avoids the time to run LaTeX (or export the R, etc
etc). Then I write the text part of my report, and, in the Lyx scrap, I
paste the required chunks of R-code. Nice and simple (thank you!). The
problem is that when I paste the R-code from Emacs to the Lyx scrap, the
End-Of-Line character gets converted into something else (a BLANK or some
other white space, I guess), which is not acceptable to the R-parser when
Sweave runs. This means that every paste operation is followed by many edit
operations to convert the blanks back into new-lines.

Is is possible to prevent this mangling of the paste?



Hi Mark,

Does ctrl+shift+v work for you? Or, Edit  Paste Special  Plain Text ?

Best,

Scott

  


--



   Mark Dalphin Ph.D.

Director of Bioinformatics

mark.dalp...@pacificedge.co.nz mailto:mark.dalp...@pacificedge.co.nz
*Ph:* +64-3-479-5805
*Cell:* +64-21-156-7625
*Skype:* mark.dalphin.pel
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Pacific-Edge/111356775582456 
http://twitter.com/#%21/pacificEdgeLtd 
http://www.youtube.com/PacificEdgeLtd


87 St David St, PO Box 56, Dunedin, New Zealand 9016www.pacificedge.co.nz

attachment: mark_dalphin.vcf

Working with Lyx and Sweave; pasting R-code from Emacs into Lyx seems awkward. Any suggestions?

[Mark Dalphin]

Hi,

I use Lyx for writing reports on data analysis. To incorporate results 
from those analysis, I use Sweave within Lyx. This is all nicely 
integrated in the recent versions of Lyx. There is one major 
inconvenience remaining for me, however, and that is described here.


I usually develop my R-code in Emacs (ESS-mode). This permits me to 
refine my tables and graphs before I incorporate them into Lyx. This is 
much faster as it interactive and avoids the time to run LaTeX (or 
export the R, etc etc). Then I write the text part of my report, and, in 
the Lyx scrap, I paste the required chunks of R-code. Nice and simple 
(thank you!). The problem is that when I paste the R-code from Emacs to 
the Lyx scrap, the End-Of-Line character gets converted into something 
else (a BLANK or some other white space, I guess), which is not 
acceptable to the R-parser when Sweave runs. This means that every paste 
operation is followed by many edit operations to convert the blanks back 
into new-lines.


Is is possible to prevent this mangling of the paste? Or could there be 
a right-click option to paste-retaining-newlines or something such 
item? Or is this a user-error and there is a better way to perform the 
actions I am describing (A wild example that I have not tried: in a 
blank Lyx window, import the Emacs file, then cut-and-paste from one Lyx 
buffer to another).


System: Linux (Kubuntu 8.04)
Lyx: 2.0.5.1, built from source.

Cut-and-paste: Standard Linux/X11, selecting with left-mouse button and 
pasting with center mouse button.


Regards,
Mark

--



   Mark Dalphin Ph.D.

Director of Bioinformatics

mark.dalp...@pacificedge.co.nz mailto:mark.dalp...@pacificedge.co.nz
*Ph:* +64-3-479-5805
*Cell:* +64-21-156-7625
*Skype:* mark.dalphin.pel
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Pacific-Edge/111356775582456 
http://twitter.com/#%21/pacificEdgeLtd 
http://www.youtube.com/PacificEdgeLtd


87 St David St, PO Box 56, Dunedin, New Zealand 9016www.pacificedge.co.nz

attachment: mark_dalphin.vcf

Re: Working with Lyx and Sweave; pasting R-code from Emacs into Lyx seems awkward. Any suggestions?

[Mark Dalphin]

Thanks to both Scott Kostyshak and Yihui Xie (I appreciate Yihui not 
reminding me that he has already suggested I switch to knitr). I 
mis-wrote when I said scrap in my text; it is indeed the chunk into 
which I paste my text from Emacs.


When I use ctrl-shift-v into a chunk that I have pre-filled with 
echo=FALSE,fig=TRUE=\n (where \n means I am on the next line, 
not the literal characters), the first line adds correctly, then there 
is a blank line and change of paragraph type into Standard, with the 
remaining lines in that standard paragraph.


If I change my work order and paste-special into a Standard paragraph, 
it looks alright, but then selection of those lines and conversion to a 
Chunk paragraph yields a similar output: one good, chunk line, a blank 
line plus several lines in the following Standard paragraph.


Trying Yihui's ERT format seemed to paste correctly, however, I am left 
wondering then in what kind of paragraph should the ERT exist. Just as 
a stand-alone Standard paragraph? I can live with that if it leads to 
clean processing of my report. Does anyone have any comments on possible 
side-effects of using the ERT to contain the Sweave material?


Cheers,
Mark

Scott Kostyshak wrote:

On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 7:06 PM, Mark Dalphin
mark.dalp...@pacificedge.co.nz wrote:
  

I usually develop my R-code in Emacs (ESS-mode). This permits me to refine
my tables and graphs before I incorporate them into Lyx. This is much faster
as it interactive and avoids the time to run LaTeX (or export the R, etc
etc). Then I write the text part of my report, and, in the Lyx scrap, I
paste the required chunks of R-code. Nice and simple (thank you!). The
problem is that when I paste the R-code from Emacs to the Lyx scrap, the
End-Of-Line character gets converted into something else (a BLANK or some
other white space, I guess), which is not acceptable to the R-parser when
Sweave runs. This means that every paste operation is followed by many edit
operations to convert the blanks back into new-lines.

Is is possible to prevent this mangling of the paste?



Hi Mark,

Does ctrl+shift+v work for you? Or, Edit  Paste Special  Plain Text ?

Best,

Scott

  


--



   Mark Dalphin Ph.D.

Director of Bioinformatics

mark.dalp...@pacificedge.co.nz mailto:mark.dalp...@pacificedge.co.nz
*Ph:* +64-3-479-5805
*Cell:* +64-21-156-7625
*Skype:* mark.dalphin.pel
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Pacific-Edge/111356775582456 
http://twitter.com/#%21/pacificEdgeLtd 
http://www.youtube.com/PacificEdgeLtd


87 St David St, PO Box 56, Dunedin, New Zealand 9016www.pacificedge.co.nz

attachment: mark_dalphin.vcf

Working with Lyx and Sweave; pasting R-code from Emacs into Lyx seems awkward. Any suggestions?

[Mark Dalphin]

Hi,

I use Lyx for writing reports on data analysis. To incorporate results 
from those analysis, I use Sweave within Lyx. This is all nicely 
integrated in the recent versions of Lyx. There is one major 
inconvenience remaining for me, however, and that is described here.


I usually develop my R-code in Emacs (ESS-mode). This permits me to 
refine my tables and graphs before I incorporate them into Lyx. This is 
much faster as it interactive and avoids the time to run LaTeX (or 
export the R, etc etc). Then I write the text part of my report, and, in 
the Lyx scrap, I paste the required chunks of R-code. Nice and simple 
(thank you!). The problem is that when I paste the R-code from Emacs to 
the Lyx scrap, the End-Of-Line character gets converted into something 
else (a BLANK or some other white space, I guess), which is not 
acceptable to the R-parser when Sweave runs. This means that every paste 
operation is followed by many edit operations to convert the blanks back 
into new-lines.


Is is possible to prevent this mangling of the paste? Or could there be 
a right-click option to "paste-retaining-newlines" or something such 
item? Or is this a user-error and there is a better way to perform the 
actions I am describing (A wild example that I have not tried: in a 
blank Lyx window, import the Emacs file, then cut-and-paste from one Lyx 
buffer to another).


System: Linux (Kubuntu 8.04)
Lyx: 2.0.5.1, built from source.

Cut-and-paste: Standard Linux/X11, selecting with left-mouse button and 
pasting with center mouse button.


Regards,
Mark

--



   Mark Dalphin Ph.D.

Director of Bioinformatics

mark.dalp...@pacificedge.co.nz <mailto:mark.dalp...@pacificedge.co.nz>
*Ph:* +64-3-479-5805
*Cell:* +64-21-156-7625
*Skype:* mark.dalphin.pel
<http://www.facebook.com/pages/Pacific-Edge/111356775582456> 
<http://twitter.com/#%21/pacificEdgeLtd> 
<http://www.youtube.com/PacificEdgeLtd>


87 St David St, PO Box 56, Dunedin, New Zealand 9016www.pacificedge.co.nz

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Re: Working with Lyx and Sweave; pasting R-code from Emacs into Lyx seems awkward. Any suggestions?

[Mark Dalphin]

Thanks to both Scott Kostyshak and Yihui Xie (I appreciate Yihui not 
reminding me that he has already suggested I switch to knitr). I 
mis-wrote when I said "scrap" in my text; it is indeed the "chunk" into 
which I paste my text from Emacs.


When I use "ctrl-shift-v" into a chunk that I have pre-filled with 

Re: Degraded figures going from ps to pdf

[Mark Livingstone]

Hi Vivian,

I recently did the same sort of thing (also using TexWorks) and found the
same results.

It seems to me that the vector based formats (line art) work fine, but
bitmap based formats (images) go wonky / degrade.

Cheers,

MarkL


On 27 March 2013 04:27, Vivian per...@husky.neu.edu wrote:

 Hi,

 I'm encountering the following problem producing pdfs with Lyx. I've
 upgraded
 to Lyx 2.051, and I'm using MiKTeX 2.9 (from previous Lyx installation) in
 Windows 7 environment. I have eps figures that I generated from emf files
 (figures saved from Powerpoint slides) using the Lyx utility metafile2eps.
 The
 eps figures themselves look very nice in Ghostview, and ps output directly
 from Lyx looks good, too. However, when I generate a pdf, most of the
 figures
 (strangely, not all!) suffer visible degradation in quality. I've noticed
 that
 in figures with a combination of line art and photographs/images, it's the
 latter that fare worse. Does anyone have any idea what may be going on?
 I've
 tried bypassing Lyx and using TeXworks (with package epstopdf, and
 pdfLatex+MakeIndex+BibTex), but this gives me the same (degraded) pdf
 output.
 Conversion of the ps file generated by Lyx (which looks good) using
 Ghostview
 also results in the same pdf.