LyX 1.6.1 on OS X unable to handle diacritic marks in .bib files

2009-01-26 Thread Grant Jacobs
Having *finally* managed to persuade LyX to generate bibliographies at all, I now find that LyX seemingly cannot handle characters with diacritic marks (i.e. UniCode) in .bib files when exporting them to PDF, etc. Unfortunately this really has to work for me as it will be the case with a

Re: LyX 1.6.1 on OS X unable to handle diacritic marks in .bib files

2009-01-26 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Grant Jacobs wrote: Having *finally* managed to persuade LyX to generate bibliographies at all, I now find that LyX seemingly cannot handle characters with diacritic marks (i.e. UniCode) in .bib files when exporting them to PDF, etc. Unfortunately this really has to work for me as it will be

Re: LyX 1.6.1 on OS X unable to handle diacritic marks in .bib files

2009-01-26 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: You need to use another encoding for the bib file, such as latin1, and insert the non-supported characters by means of the respective macros. Also look here for some further information: http://wiki.lyx.org/BibTeX/Tips#toc1 Jürgen

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread Piero Faustini
Hello fellow humanists! What a luck! Only one of your colleagues use LaTeX and some use Oo? Only the editors use LaTeX? In my area and field (italian history of music), World and Word mean the same thing, and everything which happens to us, little insignificant mortal scholars, is because of

Re: \usepackage[full]{textcomp} - where to set?

2009-01-26 Thread Wolfgang Keller
where can I tell Lyx once forever that it shall load the textcomp package always with the option full, because this is required by certain other packages? You can pass the full option to DocumentSettingsClass Options. Class options will be passed down to the packages by LaTeX.

RE: Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW
Still curious to hear some more opinions and experiences. I'm succesfully spreading the word of LyX to my supervisors and colleagues. I hope LyX will soon have some new features that will ease this collaboration. As we won't be able to implement everything, it would be nice to know which

Re: \usepackage[full]{textcomp} - where to set?

2009-01-26 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Wolfgang Keller wrote: You can pass the full option to DocumentSettingsClass Options. Class options will be passed down to the packages by LaTeX. Apparently not: LaTeX Error: Option clash for package textcomp.  ...textcomp\RequirePackage[full]{textcomp}\fi could you post a small example

Re: \usepackage[full]{textcomp} - where to set?

2009-01-26 Thread Wolfgang Keller
could you post a small example file? I'm unable to reproduce the problem. I've narrowed the source of the problem down to the use of a symbol I use: \textopenbullet{}, together with the kpfonts. The workaround is to use the ifsym package. Try this: % Quellcode vorschauen %% LyX 1.6.1

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread rgheck
Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote: Still curious to hear some more opinions and experiences. I'm succesfully spreading the word of LyX to my supervisors and colleagues. I hope LyX will soon have some new features that will ease this collaboration. As we won't be able to implement

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread rgheck
I don't have a whole lot to add to what other people have said. The difficulties in using LyX for cross-program collaboration will depend very much upon your field. I wrote a paper a while back with someone who was using Word, or maybe even an old version of WordPerfect, but it was

Re: \usepackage[full]{textcomp} - where to set?

2009-01-26 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Wolfgang Keller wrote: could you post a small example file? I'm unable to reproduce the problem. I've narrowed the source of the problem down to the use of a symbol I use: \textopenbullet{}, together with the kpfonts. You can disable the automatic textcomp loading of the kpfonts package

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread Micha Feigin
On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:53:14 -0500 rgheck rgh...@bobjweil.com wrote: Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote: Still curious to hear some more opinions and experiences. I'm succesfully spreading the word of LyX to my supervisors and colleagues. I hope LyX will soon have some new

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread Nikos Alexandris
I had a few days back this problem: how to give my document to somebody for corrections (anything except .lyx or .tex). The other person did try to install lyx (on Kubuntu) but probably Kubuntu's repositories host a previous version of LyX and we all know that it costs some time to get all things

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread A B
It'd be nice to have a list of things people need for collaboration. I guess we've probably had that discussion before, but I've never thought it had a very good outcome. The most importand would IMHO be to compare two documents and in some nice way, display differences so I can accept or

LyX 1.6.1 on OS X unable to handle diacritic marks in .bib files

2009-01-26 Thread Grant Jacobs
Thanks for explaining this. Its a damn nuisance I have admit, as I've spend a long time trying to resolve this when I have little time to spare really. I thought I was starting a new thread: I set a new subject line. Is there some other thing I am supposed to do to make that happen?? I'm

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread Rainer M Krug
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 3:42 PM, A B gentosa...@gmail.com wrote: It'd be nice to have a list of things people need for collaboration. I guess we've probably had that discussion before, but I've never thought it had a very good outcome. The most importand would IMHO be to compare two documents

RE: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW
While I agree, more or less, with Piero Faustini that _one_ way to push LyX further is to ignore other documents (especially .doc's) I still think that a tool should be interoperable meaning, except of getting it working on most operating systems, that it is able to handle most

Re: LyX 1.6.1 on OS X unable to handle diacritic marks in .bib files

2009-01-26 Thread Konrad Hofbauer
Grant Jacobs wrote: One thing that bothers me about this being a BibTeX issue, is that BibDesk writes these characters to RTF just fine. (It would tempt me to think that there might a work-around that gets this directly from BibDesk, avoiding BibTex.) 0) You have not understood the concept

Re: How to make Lyx recognize packages installed by Miktex (on ubuntu)?

2009-01-26 Thread Rintcius Blok(dev)
I have Tex-Live but not the tex live package manager. Since the package manager is not part of the ubuntu repos yet (as in that I can install it via apt-get install), I didn't bother with installing it yet. When it's part of ubuntu I will start using it probably. E. Kaplan wrote: Just

Re: LyX 1.6.1 on OS X unable to handle diacritic marks in .bib files

2009-01-26 Thread Konrad Hofbauer
Make sure you have 'Unicode to TeX Conversion' enabled in BibDesk's 'Files' Preferences !!! HTH, Konrad

Exporting Hebrew tex file under OS-X

2009-01-26 Thread Ronen Abravanel
When I try to export Hebrew LyX file into TeX file, It's print out an error: basic_filebuf::_M_convert_to_external conversion error (Lyx 1.6 On Os X) What can I do? Thanks, Ronen.

Re: Exporting Hebrew tex file under OS-X

2009-01-26 Thread Konrad Hofbauer
Ronen Abravanel wrote: What can I do? Provide a very small minimal LyX file that shows the error (and hope that somebody competent looks at it) ... /Konrad

RE: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread Nikos Alexandris
On Mon, 2009-01-26 at 15:29 +0100, Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote: [...] Maybe we should find a way to perfectly support content-only collaboration: Usually only one author governs the layout, so when you share your document with a co-author, you only want him or her to edit the

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread A B
Maybe we should find a way to perfectly support content-only collaboration: Usually only one author governs the layout, so when you share your document with a co-author, you only want him or her to edit the content. Ideally: you save your document as plain text, your co-authors can open

MS Word to LyX

2009-01-26 Thread Anders Host-Madsen
LyX is really a great way to write math. Therefore I would like to convert my old MS Word documents -- with a lot of equation in Equation Editor -- to LyX (these are documents I continually revise). Any advise about this? I found two commercial packages for conversion to LaTeX: Grind EQ and

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread Steve Litt
On Monday 26 January 2009 02:42:25 am Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: I have convinced some colleagues to use LyX or LaTeX, but since people in the humanities are often technically rather unskilled, this usually entails a significant amount of personal administration service, and you need to find

RE: Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread Charles de Miramon
Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote: I hope LyX will soon have some new features that will ease this collaboration. As we won't be able to implement everything, it would be nice to know which feature would satisfy most users. Having just finished editing a book, I think there is two phases

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread Steve Litt
On Monday 26 January 2009 08:33:32 am Nikos Alexandris wrote: I only want to say, as an end-user, that I don't even think to go back to OpenOffice for documents. Even if there are cooperation problems. Is it just me, or is OpenOffice terrible about styles? One day when mad at LyX, I briefly

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread Steve Litt
On Monday 26 January 2009 09:29:16 am Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote: While I agree, more or less, with Piero Faustini that _one_ way to push LyX further is to ignore other documents (especially .doc's) I still think that a tool should be interoperable meaning, except of getting it

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Steve Litt wrote: Have you ever supplied your colleagues with a layout file containing all the environments and character styles they'll need for their document? I think even the most non-technical person would find LyX trivial to use if he/she never had to make an environment or character

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread Ehud Kaplan
My own problems with using Lyx for a committee-composed documents are much more prosaic: 1. It is difficult to tell which is newly inserted text vs deleted text-- it is all blue on my screen 2. There is no tracking of who changed what, as is nicely done in MS WORD 3. There are no

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Ehud Kaplan wrote:    1. It is difficult to tell which is newly inserted text vs deleted       text-- it is all blue on my screen This is a bug we are aware of. It will be fixed in the next release (1.6.2), most likely.    2. There is no tracking of who changed what, as is nicely done in MS

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread Steve Litt
On Monday 26 January 2009 10:52:49 am Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Steve Litt wrote: Have you ever supplied your colleagues with a layout file containing all the environments and character styles they'll need for their document? I think even the most non-technical person would find LyX trivial

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread Steve Litt
On Monday 26 January 2009 11:07:41 am you wrote: 3. There are no keyboard shortcuts for accepting/rejecting changes, making the process tedious When I wrote Samba Unleashed there was no such shortcut either. In fact, when the editor took issue with a sentence, it was posed as a query, as in

Re: MS Word to LyX

2009-01-26 Thread Richard Heck
Anders Host-Madsen wrote: LyX is really a great way to write math. Therefore I would like to convert my old MS Word documents -- with a lot of equation in Equation Editor -- to LyX (these are documents I continually revise). Any advise about this? I found two commercial packages for

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread Ehud Kaplan
Thanks, Jurgen. Your comments were helpful. As for the inserted comments (item #4), sometimes one needs to insert comments for one's colleagues while editing a text. I tried to insert a Lyx note or a comment, and although they showed up in the Lyx file, they did not show up in the output

Re: MS Word to LyX

2009-01-26 Thread Anders Host-Madsen
Richard Heck rgh...@... writes: OpenOffice will export LaTeX. You should be able to load your Word docs there, and then export. Might be no worse. You WILL have to do hand editing, one way or the other. There's just no way around it. I tried to install open office (neo office). It does

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread James C. Sutherland
On Jan 26, 2009, at 1:07 PM, Ehud Kaplan wrote: Thanks, Jurgen. Your comments were helpful. As for the inserted comments (item #4), sometimes one needs to insert comments for one's colleagues while editing a text. I tried to insert a Lyx note or a comment, and although they showed up in

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread Ehud Kaplan
Thanks. This does not seem the most intuitive menu entry I suppose I must read the manual! James C. Sutherland wrote: On Jan 26, 2009, at 1:07 PM, Ehud Kaplan wrote: Thanks, Jurgen. Your comments were helpful. As for the inserted comments (item #4), sometimes one needs to insert

Re: LyX 1.6.1 on OS X unable to handle diacritic marks in .bib files

2009-01-26 Thread Grant Jacobs
Since writing below I have found a work-around, which I hope will continue working on the biblio files: In BibDesk, convert the bibtex database into bibtex. This seems a little daft at first, but I picked this up on reading that on importing and exporting BibDesk converts umlauts, etc. into

Re: LyX 1.6.1 on OS X unable to handle diacritic marks in .bib files

2009-01-26 Thread Konrad Hofbauer
Grant Jacobs wrote: I have a suspicion that the software I used to gather the references doesn't know the LaTeX encodings for the umlauts, etc. and just left them in their original UniCode. Ah ... I assumed your bibtex files initially came from BibDesk. Maybe it's time to switch to a

Re: MS Word to LyX

2009-01-26 Thread cmiramon
Anders Host-Madsen wrote: I tried to install open office (neo office). It does convert to LaTeX. But the issue is that it seems the philosophy in the OO converter is to make the typeset LaTeX document look like the OO document, rather than conveying the meaning/contents of the document --

How to shrink the size of math formulas?

2009-01-26 Thread Srinivas Nedunuri
Hello, is there a way of shrinking the overall size of a math formula, either displayed or inline? I am trying to stay within a page limit for a paper, and I could do with shrinking the formulas (as they would appear in the final output - I don't care too much what size they look in Lyx - so if

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Ehud Kaplan wrote: Thanks, Jurgen.  Your comments were helpful. As for the inserted comments (item #4), sometimes one needs to insert comments for one's colleagues while editing a text. I tried to insert a Lyx note or a comment, and although they showed up in the Lyx file, they did not show

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: 1. a module that lets you insert todo notes, as seen here: ftp://dante.ctan.org/tex- archive/macros/latex/contrib/todonotes/todonotesexample.pdf You need the todonotes package for this Try the attached instead. Jürgen #\DeclareLyXModule{TODO notes} #DescriptionBegin

LyX 1.6.1 on OS X unable to handle diacritic marks in .bib files

2009-01-26 Thread Grant Jacobs
Having *finally* managed to persuade LyX to generate bibliographies at all, I now find that LyX seemingly cannot handle characters with diacritic marks (i.e. UniCode) in .bib files when exporting them to PDF, etc. Unfortunately this really has to work for me as it will be the case with a

Re: LyX 1.6.1 on OS X unable to handle diacritic marks in .bib files

2009-01-26 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Grant Jacobs wrote: Having *finally* managed to persuade LyX to generate bibliographies at all, I now find that LyX seemingly cannot handle characters with diacritic marks (i.e. UniCode) in .bib files when exporting them to PDF, etc. Unfortunately this really has to work for me as it will be

Re: LyX 1.6.1 on OS X unable to handle diacritic marks in .bib files

2009-01-26 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: You need to use another encoding for the bib file, such as latin1, and insert the non-supported characters by means of the respective macros. Also look here for some further information: http://wiki.lyx.org/BibTeX/Tips#toc1 Jürgen

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread Piero Faustini
Hello fellow humanists! What a luck! Only one of your colleagues use LaTeX and some use Oo? Only the editors use LaTeX? In my area and field (italian history of music), World and Word mean the same thing, and everything which happens to us, little insignificant mortal scholars, is because of

Re: \usepackage[full]{textcomp} - where to set?

2009-01-26 Thread Wolfgang Keller
where can I tell Lyx once forever that it shall load the textcomp package always with the option full, because this is required by certain other packages? You can pass the full option to DocumentSettingsClass Options. Class options will be passed down to the packages by LaTeX.

RE: Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW
Still curious to hear some more opinions and experiences. I'm succesfully spreading the word of LyX to my supervisors and colleagues. I hope LyX will soon have some new features that will ease this collaboration. As we won't be able to implement everything, it would be nice to know which

Re: \usepackage[full]{textcomp} - where to set?

2009-01-26 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Wolfgang Keller wrote: You can pass the full option to DocumentSettingsClass Options. Class options will be passed down to the packages by LaTeX. Apparently not: LaTeX Error: Option clash for package textcomp.  ...textcomp\RequirePackage[full]{textcomp}\fi could you post a small example

Re: \usepackage[full]{textcomp} - where to set?

2009-01-26 Thread Wolfgang Keller
could you post a small example file? I'm unable to reproduce the problem. I've narrowed the source of the problem down to the use of a symbol I use: \textopenbullet{}, together with the kpfonts. The workaround is to use the ifsym package. Try this: % Quellcode vorschauen %% LyX 1.6.1

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread rgheck
Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote: Still curious to hear some more opinions and experiences. I'm succesfully spreading the word of LyX to my supervisors and colleagues. I hope LyX will soon have some new features that will ease this collaboration. As we won't be able to implement

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread rgheck
I don't have a whole lot to add to what other people have said. The difficulties in using LyX for cross-program collaboration will depend very much upon your field. I wrote a paper a while back with someone who was using Word, or maybe even an old version of WordPerfect, but it was

Re: \usepackage[full]{textcomp} - where to set?

2009-01-26 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Wolfgang Keller wrote: could you post a small example file? I'm unable to reproduce the problem. I've narrowed the source of the problem down to the use of a symbol I use: \textopenbullet{}, together with the kpfonts. You can disable the automatic textcomp loading of the kpfonts package

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread Micha Feigin
On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:53:14 -0500 rgheck rgh...@bobjweil.com wrote: Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote: Still curious to hear some more opinions and experiences. I'm succesfully spreading the word of LyX to my supervisors and colleagues. I hope LyX will soon have some new

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread Nikos Alexandris
I had a few days back this problem: how to give my document to somebody for corrections (anything except .lyx or .tex). The other person did try to install lyx (on Kubuntu) but probably Kubuntu's repositories host a previous version of LyX and we all know that it costs some time to get all things

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread A B
It'd be nice to have a list of things people need for collaboration. I guess we've probably had that discussion before, but I've never thought it had a very good outcome. The most importand would IMHO be to compare two documents and in some nice way, display differences so I can accept or

LyX 1.6.1 on OS X unable to handle diacritic marks in .bib files

2009-01-26 Thread Grant Jacobs
Thanks for explaining this. Its a damn nuisance I have admit, as I've spend a long time trying to resolve this when I have little time to spare really. I thought I was starting a new thread: I set a new subject line. Is there some other thing I am supposed to do to make that happen?? I'm

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread Rainer M Krug
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 3:42 PM, A B gentosa...@gmail.com wrote: It'd be nice to have a list of things people need for collaboration. I guess we've probably had that discussion before, but I've never thought it had a very good outcome. The most importand would IMHO be to compare two documents

RE: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW
While I agree, more or less, with Piero Faustini that _one_ way to push LyX further is to ignore other documents (especially .doc's) I still think that a tool should be interoperable meaning, except of getting it working on most operating systems, that it is able to handle most

Re: LyX 1.6.1 on OS X unable to handle diacritic marks in .bib files

2009-01-26 Thread Konrad Hofbauer
Grant Jacobs wrote: One thing that bothers me about this being a BibTeX issue, is that BibDesk writes these characters to RTF just fine. (It would tempt me to think that there might a work-around that gets this directly from BibDesk, avoiding BibTex.) 0) You have not understood the concept

Re: How to make Lyx recognize packages installed by Miktex (on ubuntu)?

2009-01-26 Thread Rintcius Blok(dev)
I have Tex-Live but not the tex live package manager. Since the package manager is not part of the ubuntu repos yet (as in that I can install it via apt-get install), I didn't bother with installing it yet. When it's part of ubuntu I will start using it probably. E. Kaplan wrote: Just

Re: LyX 1.6.1 on OS X unable to handle diacritic marks in .bib files

2009-01-26 Thread Konrad Hofbauer
Make sure you have 'Unicode to TeX Conversion' enabled in BibDesk's 'Files' Preferences !!! HTH, Konrad

Exporting Hebrew tex file under OS-X

2009-01-26 Thread Ronen Abravanel
When I try to export Hebrew LyX file into TeX file, It's print out an error: basic_filebuf::_M_convert_to_external conversion error (Lyx 1.6 On Os X) What can I do? Thanks, Ronen.

Re: Exporting Hebrew tex file under OS-X

2009-01-26 Thread Konrad Hofbauer
Ronen Abravanel wrote: What can I do? Provide a very small minimal LyX file that shows the error (and hope that somebody competent looks at it) ... /Konrad

RE: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread Nikos Alexandris
On Mon, 2009-01-26 at 15:29 +0100, Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote: [...] Maybe we should find a way to perfectly support content-only collaboration: Usually only one author governs the layout, so when you share your document with a co-author, you only want him or her to edit the

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread A B
Maybe we should find a way to perfectly support content-only collaboration: Usually only one author governs the layout, so when you share your document with a co-author, you only want him or her to edit the content. Ideally: you save your document as plain text, your co-authors can open

MS Word to LyX

2009-01-26 Thread Anders Host-Madsen
LyX is really a great way to write math. Therefore I would like to convert my old MS Word documents -- with a lot of equation in Equation Editor -- to LyX (these are documents I continually revise). Any advise about this? I found two commercial packages for conversion to LaTeX: Grind EQ and

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread Steve Litt
On Monday 26 January 2009 02:42:25 am Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: I have convinced some colleagues to use LyX or LaTeX, but since people in the humanities are often technically rather unskilled, this usually entails a significant amount of personal administration service, and you need to find

RE: Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread Charles de Miramon
Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote: I hope LyX will soon have some new features that will ease this collaboration. As we won't be able to implement everything, it would be nice to know which feature would satisfy most users. Having just finished editing a book, I think there is two phases

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread Steve Litt
On Monday 26 January 2009 08:33:32 am Nikos Alexandris wrote: I only want to say, as an end-user, that I don't even think to go back to OpenOffice for documents. Even if there are cooperation problems. Is it just me, or is OpenOffice terrible about styles? One day when mad at LyX, I briefly

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread Steve Litt
On Monday 26 January 2009 09:29:16 am Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote: While I agree, more or less, with Piero Faustini that _one_ way to push LyX further is to ignore other documents (especially .doc's) I still think that a tool should be interoperable meaning, except of getting it

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Steve Litt wrote: Have you ever supplied your colleagues with a layout file containing all the environments and character styles they'll need for their document? I think even the most non-technical person would find LyX trivial to use if he/she never had to make an environment or character

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread Ehud Kaplan
My own problems with using Lyx for a committee-composed documents are much more prosaic: 1. It is difficult to tell which is newly inserted text vs deleted text-- it is all blue on my screen 2. There is no tracking of who changed what, as is nicely done in MS WORD 3. There are no

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Ehud Kaplan wrote:    1. It is difficult to tell which is newly inserted text vs deleted       text-- it is all blue on my screen This is a bug we are aware of. It will be fixed in the next release (1.6.2), most likely.    2. There is no tracking of who changed what, as is nicely done in MS

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread Steve Litt
On Monday 26 January 2009 10:52:49 am Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Steve Litt wrote: Have you ever supplied your colleagues with a layout file containing all the environments and character styles they'll need for their document? I think even the most non-technical person would find LyX trivial

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread Steve Litt
On Monday 26 January 2009 11:07:41 am you wrote: 3. There are no keyboard shortcuts for accepting/rejecting changes, making the process tedious When I wrote Samba Unleashed there was no such shortcut either. In fact, when the editor took issue with a sentence, it was posed as a query, as in

Re: MS Word to LyX

2009-01-26 Thread Richard Heck
Anders Host-Madsen wrote: LyX is really a great way to write math. Therefore I would like to convert my old MS Word documents -- with a lot of equation in Equation Editor -- to LyX (these are documents I continually revise). Any advise about this? I found two commercial packages for

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread Ehud Kaplan
Thanks, Jurgen. Your comments were helpful. As for the inserted comments (item #4), sometimes one needs to insert comments for one's colleagues while editing a text. I tried to insert a Lyx note or a comment, and although they showed up in the Lyx file, they did not show up in the output

Re: MS Word to LyX

2009-01-26 Thread Anders Host-Madsen
Richard Heck rgh...@... writes: OpenOffice will export LaTeX. You should be able to load your Word docs there, and then export. Might be no worse. You WILL have to do hand editing, one way or the other. There's just no way around it. I tried to install open office (neo office). It does

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread James C. Sutherland
On Jan 26, 2009, at 1:07 PM, Ehud Kaplan wrote: Thanks, Jurgen. Your comments were helpful. As for the inserted comments (item #4), sometimes one needs to insert comments for one's colleagues while editing a text. I tried to insert a Lyx note or a comment, and although they showed up in

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread Ehud Kaplan
Thanks. This does not seem the most intuitive menu entry I suppose I must read the manual! James C. Sutherland wrote: On Jan 26, 2009, at 1:07 PM, Ehud Kaplan wrote: Thanks, Jurgen. Your comments were helpful. As for the inserted comments (item #4), sometimes one needs to insert

Re: LyX 1.6.1 on OS X unable to handle diacritic marks in .bib files

2009-01-26 Thread Grant Jacobs
Since writing below I have found a work-around, which I hope will continue working on the biblio files: In BibDesk, convert the bibtex database into bibtex. This seems a little daft at first, but I picked this up on reading that on importing and exporting BibDesk converts umlauts, etc. into

Re: LyX 1.6.1 on OS X unable to handle diacritic marks in .bib files

2009-01-26 Thread Konrad Hofbauer
Grant Jacobs wrote: I have a suspicion that the software I used to gather the references doesn't know the LaTeX encodings for the umlauts, etc. and just left them in their original UniCode. Ah ... I assumed your bibtex files initially came from BibDesk. Maybe it's time to switch to a

Re: MS Word to LyX

2009-01-26 Thread cmiramon
Anders Host-Madsen wrote: I tried to install open office (neo office). It does convert to LaTeX. But the issue is that it seems the philosophy in the OO converter is to make the typeset LaTeX document look like the OO document, rather than conveying the meaning/contents of the document --

How to shrink the size of math formulas?

2009-01-26 Thread Srinivas Nedunuri
Hello, is there a way of shrinking the overall size of a math formula, either displayed or inline? I am trying to stay within a page limit for a paper, and I could do with shrinking the formulas (as they would appear in the final output - I don't care too much what size they look in Lyx - so if

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Ehud Kaplan wrote: Thanks, Jurgen.  Your comments were helpful. As for the inserted comments (item #4), sometimes one needs to insert comments for one's colleagues while editing a text. I tried to insert a Lyx note or a comment, and although they showed up in the Lyx file, they did not show

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: 1. a module that lets you insert todo notes, as seen here: ftp://dante.ctan.org/tex- archive/macros/latex/contrib/todonotes/todonotesexample.pdf You need the todonotes package for this Try the attached instead. Jürgen #\DeclareLyXModule{TODO notes} #DescriptionBegin

LyX 1.6.1 on OS X unable to handle diacritic marks in .bib files

2009-01-26 Thread Grant Jacobs
Having *finally* managed to persuade LyX to generate bibliographies at all, I now find that LyX seemingly cannot handle characters with diacritic marks (i.e. UniCode) in .bib files when exporting them to PDF, etc. Unfortunately this really has to work for me as it will be the case with a

Re: LyX 1.6.1 on OS X unable to handle diacritic marks in .bib files

2009-01-26 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Grant Jacobs wrote: > Having *finally* managed to persuade LyX to generate bibliographies > at all, I now find that LyX seemingly cannot handle characters with > diacritic marks (i.e. UniCode) in .bib files when exporting them to > PDF, etc. Unfortunately this really has to work for me as it will

Re: LyX 1.6.1 on OS X unable to handle diacritic marks in .bib files

2009-01-26 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > You need to use another encoding for the bib file, such as latin1, and > insert the non-supported characters by means of the respective macros. Also look here for some further information: http://wiki.lyx.org/BibTeX/Tips#toc1 Jürgen

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread Piero Faustini
Hello fellow humanists! What a luck! "Only" one of your colleagues use LaTeX and "some" use Oo? "Only" the editors use LaTeX? In my area and field (italian history of music), "World" and "Word" mean the same thing, and everything which happens to us, little insignificant mortal scholars, is

Re: \usepackage[full]{textcomp} - where to set?

2009-01-26 Thread Wolfgang Keller
> > where can I tell Lyx once forever that it shall load the "textcomp" > > package always with the option "full", because this is required by > > certain other packages? > > You can pass the "full" option to Document>Settings>Class Options. > Class options will be passed down to the packages by

RE: Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW
> Still curious to hear some more opinions and experiences. I'm succesfully spreading the word of LyX to my supervisors and colleagues. I hope LyX will soon have some new features that will ease this collaboration. As we won't be able to implement everything, it would be nice to know which

Re: \usepackage[full]{textcomp} - where to set?

2009-01-26 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Wolfgang Keller wrote: > > You can pass the "full" option to Document>Settings>Class Options. > > Class options will be passed down to the packages by LaTeX. > > Apparently not: > > LaTeX Error: Option clash for package textcomp. > >  ...textcomp\RequirePackage[full]{textcomp}\fi could you post a

Re: \usepackage[full]{textcomp} - where to set?

2009-01-26 Thread Wolfgang Keller
> could you post a small example file? I'm unable to reproduce the > problem. I've narrowed the source of the problem down to the use of a symbol I use: \textopenbullet{}, together with the kpfonts. The workaround is to use the ifsym package. Try this: % Quellcode vorschauen %% LyX 1.6.1

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread rgheck
Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote: Still curious to hear some more opinions and experiences. I'm succesfully spreading the word of LyX to my supervisors and colleagues. I hope LyX will soon have some new features that will ease this collaboration. As we won't be able to implement

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

2009-01-26 Thread rgheck
I don't have a whole lot to add to what other people have said. The difficulties in using LyX for cross-program collaboration will depend very much upon your field. I wrote a paper a while back with someone who was using Word, or maybe even an old version of WordPerfect, but it was

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