Re: Biblatex and Lyx: Verbose Style

2011-10-01 Thread Thomas Strausz
Julio Rojas  writes:

> 
> Dear all. I'm trying to use biblatex with lyx, using the verbose
> style. I followed carefully the instructions in the wiki. Lyx compiles
> the document, but instead of showing full citations for the first time
> a reference is used, I only get the key for the reference in the PDF. [...]

Hello,

I have a very similar problem at the moment, but I'm afraid the solution
specified in this thread doesn't work for me. My setup is:

1. I'm using Windows XP Service Pack 3, MikTeX 2.8 and Lyx 2.0.

2. As a backend to biblatex I use biber.

I have tried to use a simple .bib file with one entry located at C:\Test\. I
have followed the instructions for using biblatex in the LyX wiki
(http://wiki.lyx.org/BibTeX/Biblatex#toc2). When I try to compile a file, the
resulting PDF shows no bibliography and the cites are not formatted according by
the options set in the preamble, but are simply the key printed in bold. I have
tried out several things to make it work, but they all failed. Among them are:

1. Switching between \bibliography and \addbibresource.
2. Using "/" slashes and using "\" slashes. When using "/" slashes, the PDF
output only shows the keys as explained above, when using "\" slashes LaTeX
seems to interpret them as commands and shows an error message. Putting the path
in quotes or in \string" doesn't change that.
3. Following the reccomendation in the wiki I tried to setup a texmf order in
C:\texmf to put my .bib-file, but MikTeX won't accept it as a rootfile, showing
an error message: 
   "MiKTeX Problem Report
   Message: Not a TDS-compliant root directory.
   Data: C:\texmf
   Source: Programs\MiKTeX\MO\MFC\PropPageRoots.cpp
   Line: 365
   MiKTeX: 2.8
   OS: Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 3 (build 2600)
   SystemAdmin: yes
   PowerUser: no
   Root0: C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Thomas\Anwendungsdaten\MiKTeX\2.8
   Root1: C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Thomas\Lokale   
   Einstellungen\Anwendungsdaten\MiKTeX\2.8
   Root2: C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\All Users\Anwendungsdaten\MiKTeX\2.8
   Root3: C:\Programme\MiKTeX 2.8
   UserInstall: C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Thomas\Anwendungsdaten\MiKTeX\2.8
   UserConfig: C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Thomas\Anwendungsdaten\MiKTeX\2.8
   UserData: C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Thomas\Lokale   
   Einstellungen\Anwendungsdaten\MiKTeX\2.8
   CommonInstall: C:\Programme\MiKTeX 2.8
   CommonConfig: C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\All Users\Anwendungsdaten\MiKTeX
   \2.8
   CommonData: C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\All Users\Anwendungsdaten   
   \MiKTeX\2.8

I am fairly new to LaTeX and LyX, having begun to read about it a few months ago
and trying to use it since about a week for a test chapter for my diploma
thesis. Like any beginner I am encountering a load of problems, so I hope you
will be lenient towards me if I did make some very silly mistake or if I have
difficulties understanding something.

Thank you very much!

Kind regards

Thomas

PS. Below is the example I'm using:

%% LyX 2.0.0 created this file.  For more info, see http://www.lyx.org/.
%% Do not edit unless you really know what you are doing.
\documentclass[english]{article}
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}

\makeatletter
%% User specified LaTeX commands.
% biblatex verwenden
\usepackage[style=verbose,backend=biber]{biblatex}
% Bibliographie einbinden
\addbibresource{C:/Test/rechtswissenschaften.bib}

\makeatother

\usepackage{babel}
\usepackage{xunicode}
\begin{document}


\printbibliography

abc\cite{Deixler-Huebner2009}
\end{document}


PPS. The .bib-file rechtswissenschaften.bib looks like that:

% This file was created with JabRef 2.7.
% Encoding: UTF8

@BOOK{Deixler-Huebner2009,
  author = {Deixler-Hübner, Astrid},
  title = {Scheidung, Ehe und Lebensgemeinschaft},
  year = {2009},
  edition = {10},
  owner = {Thomas},
  timestamp = {2011.10.01}
}

@comment{jabref-meta: selector_review:}

@comment{jabref-meta: selector_publisher:}

@comment{jabref-meta: selector_author:}

@comment{jabref-meta: selector_journal:}

@comment{jabref-meta: selector_keywords:}



Re: Biblatex and Lyx: Verbose Style

2009-08-10 Thread rgheck

On 08/10/2009 12:11 PM, Piero wrote:

http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/4065

 


Does this mean that direct BibLaTeX support isn't a priority?

   
It's something that at least two of us have on our radar, but (a) until 
the package stabilizes, we won't directly support it and (b) there is a 
serious need for cleanup of how bibliography formats are handled before 
we can really do this properly. So there's work to be done and, as usual 
with open source projects, not nearly enough people to do it


rh



Re: Biblatex and Lyx: Verbose Style

2009-08-10 Thread Piero

> 
> http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/4065
> 

Does this mean that direct BibLaTeX support isn't a priority?
   






Re: Biblatex and Lyx: Verbose Style

2009-08-10 Thread Pavel Sanda
Piero wrote:
> Julio Rojas  writes:
> 
> > Very nice package by the way. Specially since somebody took the job of
> > translating it to spanish. Is LyX 1.7 going to support biblatex out of
> > the box?

http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/4065


Re: Biblatex and Lyx: Verbose Style

2009-08-09 Thread Piero
Julio Rojas  writes:

> Very nice package by the way. Specially since somebody took the job of
> translating it to spanish. Is LyX 1.7 going to support biblatex out of
> the box?

Indeed, I simply love it. It will happen just when P.Lehman, the developer of 
BibLaTeX, will consider that it is stable. Then... LyX+BibLaTeX= what better 
can 
you imagine???

> 
> Again, thank you very much to this wonderful community. The best one
> of them all!!!

Yes, you're right. It's just wonderful. Welcome in!



Re: Biblatex and Lyx: Verbose Style

2009-08-09 Thread Julio Rojas
Ok, thanks to all. Weird behavior but it seems to be the one that is
happening. I have completed the path and everything seems alright.
Very nice package by the way. Specially since somebody took the job of
translating it to spanish. Is LyX 1.7 going to support biblatex out of
the box?

Again, thank you very much to this wonderful community. The best one
of them all!!!
-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com



On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:10 PM, Stefano
Franchi wrote:
> On Friday 07 August 2009 02:58:32 pm Piero wrote:
>> Julio Rojas  writes:
>> > Everything is in the same folder. Lyx can read the file and shows the
>> > references when I select them, so no, I believe this is not the
>> > problem. You can see the bibliography declared in the lines I
>> > provided:
>> >
>> > \bibliography{biblatex-apa-test-references}
>> >
>> > I'm working right now in Ubuntu 9.04, but I also work in XP and Leopard.
>>
>> Ooops, didn't see the line, sorry.
>>
>> Anyway, BibLaTeX doesn't work with me without the FULL PATH, and PDF only
>> show bibtex keys. Tried already?
>
> I had this problem a while ago, and solved it by always giving the full path
> to the bib files in the preamble. If I remember correctly, the problem has to
> do with LyX's compilation strategy. To produce a pdf file, Lyx first produces 
> a
> .tex file in a temporary directory, and then runs (pdf)latex on it. At that
> point, latex can no longer find the .bib database because it is no longer in
> the same directory as the .tex file.
>
> Have you tried exporting your .lyx  file to a  latex (.tex) file and then
> running (pdf)latex on it from the command line? If I am right, it should
> produce correct references while the "View>PDF" command in Lyx (which uses the
> strategy above) shouldn't. Looking at the full Latex log (Document>Latex log)
> can be helfpul too.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Stefano
>
> __
> Stefano Franchi
> Department of Philosophy          Ph:  (979) 862-2211
> Texas A&M University              Fax: (979) 845-0458
> 305B Bolton Hall                  fran...@philosophy.tamu.edu
> College Station, TX 77843-4237
>
>


Re: Biblatex and Lyx: Verbose Style

2009-08-07 Thread Stefano Franchi
On Friday 07 August 2009 02:58:32 pm Piero wrote:
> Julio Rojas  writes:
> > Everything is in the same folder. Lyx can read the file and shows the
> > references when I select them, so no, I believe this is not the
> > problem. You can see the bibliography declared in the lines I
> > provided:
> >
> > \bibliography{biblatex-apa-test-references}
> >
> > I'm working right now in Ubuntu 9.04, but I also work in XP and Leopard.
>
> Ooops, didn't see the line, sorry.
>
> Anyway, BibLaTeX doesn't work with me without the FULL PATH, and PDF only
> show bibtex keys. Tried already?

I had this problem a while ago, and solved it by always giving the full path 
to the bib files in the preamble. If I remember correctly, the problem has to 
do with LyX's compilation strategy. To produce a pdf file, Lyx first produces a 
.tex file in a temporary directory, and then runs (pdf)latex on it. At that 
point, latex can no longer find the .bib database because it is no longer in 
the same directory as the .tex file.

Have you tried exporting your .lyx  file to a  latex (.tex) file and then 
running (pdf)latex on it from the command line? If I am right, it should 
produce correct references while the "View>PDF" command in Lyx (which uses the 
strategy above) shouldn't. Looking at the full Latex log (Document>Latex log) 
can be helfpul too.


Cheers,

Stefano

__
Stefano Franchi
Department of Philosophy  Ph:  (979) 862-2211
Texas A&M University  Fax: (979) 845-0458
305B Bolton Hall  fran...@philosophy.tamu.edu
College Station, TX 77843-4237



Re: Biblatex and Lyx: Verbose Style

2009-08-07 Thread Piero
Julio Rojas  writes:

> 
> Everything is in the same folder. Lyx can read the file and shows the
> references when I select them, so no, I believe this is not the
> problem. You can see the bibliography declared in the lines I
> provided:
> 
> \bibliography{biblatex-apa-test-references}
> 
> I'm working right now in Ubuntu 9.04, but I also work in XP and Leopard.


Ooops, didn't see the line, sorry.

Anyway, BibLaTeX doesn't work with me without the FULL PATH, and PDF only show 
bibtex keys. Tried already?







Re: Biblatex and Lyx: Verbose Style

2009-08-07 Thread Julio Rojas
Everything is in the same folder. Lyx can read the file and shows the
references when I select them, so no, I believe this is not the
problem. You can see the bibliography declared in the lines I
provided:

\bibliography{biblatex-apa-test-references}

I'm working right now in Ubuntu 9.04, but I also work in XP and Leopard.
-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com



On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Piero wrote:
> Julio Rojas  writes:
>
>>
>> Does anybody know about this problem? I have to work on a big document
>> and I think biblatex is the way to go, but not at the cost of having
>> to work directly on Latex.
>
> BibLaTeX IS your man. As LyX is.
> just 1 question: did you put
>
>   \bibliography{mybibfile}
>
> in the preamble, after the above lines?
> In my case (WinXP) it works only if I insert the ENTIRE path (C:/MyFolder...)
>
> Anyway, it's funny:
>  I never have been able to have BibLaTeX work with plain LaTeX
> without LyX.
>  Seems that LyX can show LaTeX the right .bib path.
>
> Tell me ifit works.
>
> Bye
> HPiero
>
>


Re: Biblatex and Lyx: Verbose Style

2009-08-07 Thread Piero
Julio Rojas  writes:

> 
> Does anybody know about this problem? I have to work on a big document
> and I think biblatex is the way to go, but not at the cost of having
> to work directly on Latex.

BibLaTeX IS your man. As LyX is.
just 1 question: did you put

   \bibliography{mybibfile}

in the preamble, after the above lines?
In my case (WinXP) it works only if I insert the ENTIRE path (C:/MyFolder...)

Anyway, it's funny:
 I never have been able to have BibLaTeX work with plain LaTeX 
without LyX.
 Seems that LyX can show LaTeX the right .bib path.

Tell me ifit works.

Bye
HPiero



Biblatex and Lyx: Verbose Style

2009-08-07 Thread Julio Rojas
Dear all. I'm trying to use biblatex with lyx, using the verbose
style. I followed carefully the instructions in the wiki. Lyx compiles
the document, but instead of showing full citations for the first time
a reference is used, I only get the key for the reference in the PDF.
This is the preamble I'm using:

\usepackage[natbib=true,style=verbose-note,autocite=footnote,sorting=nyt]{biblatex}
\bibliography{biblatex-apa-test-references}
\renewcommand\cite{\autocite}
\renewcommand\citep{\autocite}

I redefine the cite and citep commands to use footnote cites, but
that's it. You can see the output in an attached PDF. The weird part
is that if I export the document to latex and compile it by hand, the
desired result is obtained. I believe that maybe LyX is not compiling
the bibliography as it should and it only shows the results of a badly
constructed bbl file.

Does anybody know about this problem? I have to work on a big document
and I think biblatex is the way to go, but not at the cost of having
to work directly on Latex.
-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com


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