Re: Zapf typefaces in LaTeX (was: 'Re: No ligatures in Palatino?')

On Apr 8, 2011, at 6:04 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote: Hey Bruce On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Bruce Pourciau bruce.h.pourc...@lawrence.edu wrote: Other faces designed by Herman Zapf would do as well -- such as Aldus or Renaissance As far as I understand, Aldus is a book weight version of

Re: Zapf typefaces in LaTeX (was: 'Re: No ligatures in Palatino?')

On Apr 8, 2011, at 6:04 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote: Hey Bruce On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Bruce Pourciau bruce.h.pourc...@lawrence.edu wrote: Other faces designed by Herman Zapf would do as well -- such as Aldus or Renaissance As far as I understand, Aldus is a book weight version of

Re: Zapf typefaces in LaTeX (was: 'Re: No ligatures in Palatino?')

On Apr 8, 2011, at 6:04 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote: Hey Bruce On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Bruce Pourciau wrote: Other faces designed by Herman Zapf would do as well -- such as Aldus or Renaissance As far as I understand, Aldus is a book weight version of

Re: No ligatures in Palatino?

On 2011-04-07, Daniel CLEMENT wrote: Dear list members, I have been using the palatino font for a while. But I only recently noticed that, in documents using this font, no ligatures appeared (e.g. in ff, fi, ...). Because there are no ligatures in Palatino -- by design. Looking at the URW

Re: No ligatures in Palatino?

On 2011-04-07, Daniel CLEMENT wrote: Liviu Andronic wrote: On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Daniel CLEMENT dcleme...@sfr.fr wrote: ... the \usepackage{tgpagella} allowed me to get nicely linked ff. Definitely an improvement. Maybe LyX could load _this_ package for Palatino fonts, if it just

Re: No ligatures in Palatino?

On Fri, 8 Apr 2011, Guenter Milde wrote: Because there are no ligatures in Palatino -- by design. There is not much change in the standard Postscript fonts. Especially, considering the emphasis that TeX puts on consistent rendering of unchanged documents, there will be no change without a

Re: No ligatures in Palatino?

On Apr 8, 2011, at 1:31 AM, Guenter Milde wrote: Because there are no ligatures in Palatino -- by design. This is one of the many, many reasons why the typographic world would be a prettier place if Word folks would use Palatino, rather than Times, as the default typeface. Not only then

Re: No ligatures in Palatino?

On Fri, 8 Apr 2011, Bruce Pourciau wrote: This is one of the many, many reasons why the typographic world would be a prettier place if Word folks would use Palatino, rather than Times, Bruce, They either use Times or the default san-serif face as a body text font. Ugly and hard to read.

Zapf typefaces in LaTeX (was: 'Re: No ligatures in Palatino?')

Hey Bruce On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Bruce Pourciau bruce.h.pourc...@lawrence.edu wrote: Other faces designed by Herman Zapf would do as well -- such as Aldus or Renaissance As far as I understand, Aldus is a book weight version of Palatino, hence more readable. Do you know if URW++ or

Re: No ligatures in Palatino?

On 2011-04-07, Daniel CLEMENT wrote: Dear list members, I have been using the palatino font for a while. But I only recently noticed that, in documents using this font, no ligatures appeared (e.g. in ff, fi, ...). Because there are no ligatures in Palatino -- by design. Looking at the URW

Re: No ligatures in Palatino?

On 2011-04-07, Daniel CLEMENT wrote: Liviu Andronic wrote: On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Daniel CLEMENT dcleme...@sfr.fr wrote: ... the \usepackage{tgpagella} allowed me to get nicely linked ff. Definitely an improvement. Maybe LyX could load _this_ package for Palatino fonts, if it just

Re: No ligatures in Palatino?

On Fri, 8 Apr 2011, Guenter Milde wrote: Because there are no ligatures in Palatino -- by design. There is not much change in the standard Postscript fonts. Especially, considering the emphasis that TeX puts on consistent rendering of unchanged documents, there will be no change without a

Re: No ligatures in Palatino?

On Apr 8, 2011, at 1:31 AM, Guenter Milde wrote: Because there are no ligatures in Palatino -- by design. This is one of the many, many reasons why the typographic world would be a prettier place if Word folks would use Palatino, rather than Times, as the default typeface. Not only then

Re: No ligatures in Palatino?

On Fri, 8 Apr 2011, Bruce Pourciau wrote: This is one of the many, many reasons why the typographic world would be a prettier place if Word folks would use Palatino, rather than Times, Bruce, They either use Times or the default san-serif face as a body text font. Ugly and hard to read.

Zapf typefaces in LaTeX (was: 'Re: No ligatures in Palatino?')

Hey Bruce On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Bruce Pourciau bruce.h.pourc...@lawrence.edu wrote: Other faces designed by Herman Zapf would do as well -- such as Aldus or Renaissance As far as I understand, Aldus is a book weight version of Palatino, hence more readable. Do you know if URW++ or

Re: No ligatures in Palatino?

On 2011-04-07, Daniel CLEMENT wrote: > Dear list members, > I have been using the palatino font for a while. But I only recently > noticed that, in documents using this font, no ligatures appeared (e.g. > in ff, fi, ...). Because there are no ligatures in Palatino -- by design. Looking at the

Re: No ligatures in Palatino?

On 2011-04-07, Daniel CLEMENT wrote: > Liviu Andronic wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Daniel CLEMENT wrote: > ... the \usepackage{tgpagella} allowed me to get nicely linked "ff". > Definitely an improvement. Maybe LyX could load _this_ package for > Palatino fonts,

Re: No ligatures in Palatino?

On Fri, 8 Apr 2011, Guenter Milde wrote: Because there are no ligatures in Palatino -- by design. There is not much change in the standard Postscript fonts. Especially, considering the emphasis that TeX puts on consistent rendering of unchanged documents, there will be no change without a

Re: No ligatures in Palatino?

On Apr 8, 2011, at 1:31 AM, Guenter Milde wrote: Because there are no ligatures in Palatino -- by design. This is one of the many, many reasons why the typographic world would be a prettier place if Word folks would use Palatino, rather than Times, as the default typeface. Not only then

Re: No ligatures in Palatino?

On Fri, 8 Apr 2011, Bruce Pourciau wrote: This is one of the many, many reasons why the typographic world would be a prettier place if Word folks would use Palatino, rather than Times, Bruce, They either use Times or the default san-serif face as a body text font. Ugly and hard to read.

Zapf typefaces in LaTeX (was: 'Re: No ligatures in Palatino?')

Hey Bruce On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Bruce Pourciau wrote: > Other faces designed by Herman Zapf would do as well -- such as Aldus or > Renaissance > As far as I understand, Aldus is a book weight version of Palatino, hence more readable. Do you know if URW++

Re: No ligatures in Palatino?

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:03 AM, Daniel CLEMENT dcleme...@sfr.fr wrote: Dear list members, I have been using the palatino font for a while. But I only recently noticed that, in documents using this font, no ligatures appeared (e.g. in ff, fi, ...). Not an expert, but they seem to appear when

Re: No ligatures in Palatino?

First, thanks for your reply. Liviu Andronic wrote: [...] I have been using the palatino font for a while. But I only recently noticed that, in documents using this font, no ligatures appeared (e.g. in ff, fi, ...). Not an expert, but they seem to appear when using TeX Gyre Pagella, a

Re: No ligatures in Palatino?

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Daniel CLEMENT dcleme...@sfr.fr wrote: Hum... On the attached .PDF, I do see the ligature between the two ff (which I usually miss) and the dashes (which I have). However, I don't see any ligature between f and i, either in fi or ffi. (I am under 1.6.9 so I

Re: No ligatures in Palatino?

Thanks, that did the trick. I had to install the tex-gyre package. Then... Liviu Andronic wrote: On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Daniel CLEMENT dcleme...@sfr.fr wrote: Hum... On the attached .PDF, I do see the ligature between the two ff (which I usually miss) and the dashes (which I have).

Re: No ligatures in Palatino?

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Daniel CLEMENT dcleme...@sfr.fr wrote: Thanks, that did the trick. I had to install the tex-gyre package. Then... Liviu Andronic wrote: On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Daniel CLEMENT dcleme...@sfr.fr wrote: Hum... On the attached .PDF, I do see the ligature

Re: No ligatures in Palatino?

On Thu, 7 Apr 2011, Liviu Andronic wrote: See [1] for the list of expected ligatures. [1] http://www.tug.dk/FontCatalogue/palatino/ Liviu, Maybe it's my old eyeballs, but I don't see differences in the ligatures in the standard Palatino and the enhanced version. As a matter of fact, the

Re: No ligatures in Palatino?

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com wrote: On Thu, 7 Apr 2011, Liviu Andronic wrote: See [1] for the list of expected ligatures. [1] http://www.tug.dk/FontCatalogue/palatino/ Liviu,  Maybe it's my old eyeballs, but I don't see differences in the ligatures

Re: No ligatures in Palatino?

On Thu, 7 Apr 2011, Liviu Andronic wrote: Unfortunately it's bitmap, but even so if you zoom to about 1000% you will clearly notice that the Palladio ligatures have much less ligature pixels than the Pagella. The latter features a solid black line in the 'ff' ligature, and an almost

Re: No ligatures in Palatino?

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com wrote: On Thu, 7 Apr 2011, Liviu Andronic wrote: Unfortunately it's bitmap, but even so if you zoom to about 1000% you will clearly notice that the Palladio ligatures have much less ligature pixels than the Pagella. The

Re: No ligatures in Palatino?

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:03 AM, Daniel CLEMENT dcleme...@sfr.fr wrote: Dear list members, I have been using the palatino font for a while. But I only recently noticed that, in documents using this font, no ligatures appeared (e.g. in ff, fi, ...). Not an expert, but they seem to appear when

Re: No ligatures in Palatino?

First, thanks for your reply. Liviu Andronic wrote: [...] I have been using the palatino font for a while. But I only recently noticed that, in documents using this font, no ligatures appeared (e.g. in ff, fi, ...). Not an expert, but they seem to appear when using TeX Gyre Pagella, a

Re: No ligatures in Palatino?

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Daniel CLEMENT dcleme...@sfr.fr wrote: Hum... On the attached .PDF, I do see the ligature between the two ff (which I usually miss) and the dashes (which I have). However, I don't see any ligature between f and i, either in fi or ffi. (I am under 1.6.9 so I

Re: No ligatures in Palatino?

Thanks, that did the trick. I had to install the tex-gyre package. Then... Liviu Andronic wrote: On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Daniel CLEMENT dcleme...@sfr.fr wrote: Hum... On the attached .PDF, I do see the ligature between the two ff (which I usually miss) and the dashes (which I have).

Re: No ligatures in Palatino?

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Daniel CLEMENT dcleme...@sfr.fr wrote: Thanks, that did the trick. I had to install the tex-gyre package. Then... Liviu Andronic wrote: On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Daniel CLEMENT dcleme...@sfr.fr wrote: Hum... On the attached .PDF, I do see the ligature

Re: No ligatures in Palatino?

On Thu, 7 Apr 2011, Liviu Andronic wrote: See [1] for the list of expected ligatures. [1] http://www.tug.dk/FontCatalogue/palatino/ Liviu, Maybe it's my old eyeballs, but I don't see differences in the ligatures in the standard Palatino and the enhanced version. As a matter of fact, the

Re: No ligatures in Palatino?

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com wrote: On Thu, 7 Apr 2011, Liviu Andronic wrote: See [1] for the list of expected ligatures. [1] http://www.tug.dk/FontCatalogue/palatino/ Liviu,  Maybe it's my old eyeballs, but I don't see differences in the ligatures

Re: No ligatures in Palatino?

On Thu, 7 Apr 2011, Liviu Andronic wrote: Unfortunately it's bitmap, but even so if you zoom to about 1000% you will clearly notice that the Palladio ligatures have much less ligature pixels than the Pagella. The latter features a solid black line in the 'ff' ligature, and an almost

Re: No ligatures in Palatino?

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com wrote: On Thu, 7 Apr 2011, Liviu Andronic wrote: Unfortunately it's bitmap, but even so if you zoom to about 1000% you will clearly notice that the Palladio ligatures have much less ligature pixels than the Pagella. The

Re: No ligatures in Palatino?

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:03 AM, Daniel CLEMENT wrote: > Dear list members, > > I have been using the palatino font for a while. But I only recently > noticed that, in documents using this font, no ligatures appeared (e.g. > in ff, fi, ...). > Not an expert, but they seem to

Re: No ligatures in Palatino?

First, thanks for your reply. Liviu Andronic wrote: [...] > > I have been using the palatino font for a while. But I only recently > > noticed that, in documents using this font, no ligatures appeared (e.g. > > in ff, fi, ...). > > > Not an expert, but they seem to appear when using TeX Gyre

Re: No ligatures in Palatino?

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Daniel CLEMENT wrote: > Hum... On the attached .PDF, I do see the ligature between the two > "ff" (which I usually miss) and the dashes (which I have). > > However, I don't see any ligature between "f" and "i", either in "fi" or > "ffi". > > (I am

Re: No ligatures in Palatino?

Thanks, that did the trick. I had to install the tex-gyre package. Then... Liviu Andronic wrote: > On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Daniel CLEMENT wrote: > > Hum... On the attached .PDF, I do see the ligature between the two > > "ff" (which I usually miss) and the dashes (which

Re: No ligatures in Palatino?

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Daniel CLEMENT wrote: > Thanks, that did the trick. > > I had to install the tex-gyre package. Then... > > Liviu Andronic wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Daniel CLEMENT wrote: >> > Hum... On the attached .PDF, I do see

Re: No ligatures in Palatino?

On Thu, 7 Apr 2011, Liviu Andronic wrote: See [1] for the list of expected ligatures. [1] http://www.tug.dk/FontCatalogue/palatino/ Liviu, Maybe it's my old eyeballs, but I don't see differences in the ligatures in the standard Palatino and the enhanced version. As a matter of fact, the

Re: No ligatures in Palatino?

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Rich Shepard wrote: > On Thu, 7 Apr 2011, Liviu Andronic wrote: > >> See [1] for the list of expected ligatures. >> [1] http://www.tug.dk/FontCatalogue/palatino/ > > Liviu, > >  Maybe it's my old eyeballs, but I don't see differences in

Re: No ligatures in Palatino?

On Thu, 7 Apr 2011, Liviu Andronic wrote: Unfortunately it's bitmap, but even so if you zoom to about 1000% you will clearly notice that the Palladio ligatures have much less "ligature pixels" than the Pagella. The latter features a solid black line in the 'ff' ligature, and an almost

Re: No ligatures in Palatino?

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Rich Shepard wrote: > On Thu, 7 Apr 2011, Liviu Andronic wrote: > >> Unfortunately it's bitmap, but even so if you zoom to about 1000% you will >> clearly notice that the Palladio ligatures have much less "ligature >> pixels" than the