Re: UNITY (in Ubuntu) kills menus
I agree about UNITY-- I find gnome to be a much better interface, but I wanted to try it before I decide, and discovered the menu bug, which affects other programs, not only Lyx. Ehud Kaplan On 8/11/2011 6:19 PM, Steve Litt wrote: On Thursday, August 11, 2011 04:03:20 AM ehud.kap...@gmail.com wrote: I have discovered that the new Ubuntu 11.04 GUI Unity (or perhaps its appmenu) kills the menus on Lyx 2.0 (and several other programs, such as VLC), possibly because of a qt4 incompatibility. The bug has been known for almost a year. Does anyone have a way of getting around it, short of using gnome instead of Unity? Thanks, EK This response is non-responsive to your question, but... Unity! Slowly I turn, step by step, inch by inch! Never has a worse user interface been conceived or deployed. It even beats out Windows 7 for lameness. I have no idea how to fix Unity induced problems in any app, sorry. I went back to classic when upgrading to Ubuntu 11.04. If a future Ubuntu ever forces me to go Unity, I'll move away from Ubuntu. SteveT Steve Litt Author: The Key to Everyday Excellence http://www.troubleshooters.com/bookstore/key_excellence.htm Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt
Re: UNITY (in Ubuntu) kills menus
Ehud, I did a quick search, and it seems the bug has been fixed upstream: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libdbusmenu/+bug/619811 Also, in the meantime, there is a workaround documented here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/134649 Jacob
Re: UNITY (in Ubuntu) kills menus
On 8/11/11 11:25 PM, Richard Heck wrote: [...] > I saw it once, too, and fled. It's probably great for netbooks and > tablets, but why would I want to use such a thing on a desktop machine? > And don't get me started about Gnome 3.0 I don't even use it on the eeePC el
Re: UNITY (in Ubuntu) kills menus
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 2:03 AM, ehud.kap...@gmail.com < ehud.kap...@gmail.com> wrote: > I have discovered that the new Ubuntu 11.04 GUI Unity (or perhaps its > appmenu) kills the menus on Lyx 2.0 (and several other programs, such as > VLC), possibly because of a qt4 incompatibility. The bug has been known for > almost a year. Does anyone have a way of getting around it, short of using > gnome instead of Unity? > Thanks, > EK > -- > I do actually use LyX with Unity on Ubuntu 11.04. I don't remember if I had problems with the menus or not. My install is working great at the moment. I might have had issues, but if so I unfortunately did not document what I did to work around it. If you can explain the behavior a bit more, maybe I can help. Jacob
Re: UNITY (in Ubuntu) kills menus
On Thursday, August 11, 2011 09:31:47 AM ehud.kap...@gmail.com wrote: > I have tried gnome and KDE, but wanted to try Unity. The > developers know of the bug, and it has nothing to do with Lyx-- it > has to do (apparently) with qt4 and it affects other programs as > well. EK If your purpose is evaluating Unity, I'd suggest you try Unity for five hours in which you don't need LyX, or else load it on a different machine. If you're anything like me, you'll blow it right off the hard drive because it's nothing but frustration. Especially horrid is the menu structure, in which you have a few commonly used ones, and the rest all thrown into one bucket you need to rummage through. I found that almost everything I did in Unity took minutes instead of seconds or half-seconds. It was an attrocious time-sink. If you're anything like me, a simple evaluation without LyX will reveal that Unity isn't for you. SteeT Steve Litt Author: The Key to Everyday Excellence http://www.troubleshooters.com/bookstore/key_excellence.htm Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt
Re: UNITY (in Ubuntu) kills menus
On 08/11/2011 06:19 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > On Thursday, August 11, 2011 04:03:20 AM ehud.kap...@gmail.com wrote: >> I have discovered that the new Ubuntu 11.04 GUI Unity (or perhaps >> its appmenu) kills the menus on Lyx 2.0 (and several other >> programs, such as VLC), possibly because of a qt4 incompatibility. >> The bug has been known for almost a year. Does anyone have a way >> of getting around it, short of using gnome instead of Unity? >> Thanks, >> EK > This response is non-responsive to your question, but... > > Unity! Slowly I turn, step by step, inch by inch! > > Never has a worse user interface been conceived or deployed. It even > beats out Windows 7 for lameness. > > I have no idea how to fix Unity induced problems in any app, sorry. > > I went back to classic when upgrading to Ubuntu 11.04. If a future > Ubuntu ever forces me to go Unity, I'll move away from Ubuntu. > I saw it once, too, and fled. It's probably great for netbooks and tablets, but why would I want to use such a thing on a desktop machine? And don't get me started about Gnome 3.0 Richard
Re: UNITY (in Ubuntu) kills menus
On Thursday, August 11, 2011 04:03:20 AM ehud.kap...@gmail.com wrote: > I have discovered that the new Ubuntu 11.04 GUI Unity (or perhaps > its appmenu) kills the menus on Lyx 2.0 (and several other > programs, such as VLC), possibly because of a qt4 incompatibility. > The bug has been known for almost a year. Does anyone have a way > of getting around it, short of using gnome instead of Unity? > Thanks, > EK This response is non-responsive to your question, but... Unity! Slowly I turn, step by step, inch by inch! Never has a worse user interface been conceived or deployed. It even beats out Windows 7 for lameness. I have no idea how to fix Unity induced problems in any app, sorry. I went back to classic when upgrading to Ubuntu 11.04. If a future Ubuntu ever forces me to go Unity, I'll move away from Ubuntu. SteveT Steve Litt Author: The Key to Everyday Excellence http://www.troubleshooters.com/bookstore/key_excellence.htm Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt
Re: UNITY (in Ubuntu) kills menus
I have tried gnome and KDE, but wanted to try Unity. The developers know of the bug, and it has nothing to do with Lyx-- it has to do (apparently) with qt4 and it affects other programs as well. EK On 8/11/2011 9:20 AM, Helge Hafting wrote: On 11. aug. 2011 10:03, ehud.kap...@gmail.com wrote: I have discovered that the new Ubuntu 11.04 GUI Unity (or perhaps its appmenu) kills the menus on Lyx 2.0 (and several other programs, such as VLC), possibly because of a qt4 incompatibility. The bug has been known for almost a year. Does anyone have a way of getting around it, short of using gnome instead of Unity? Thanks, If unity has a bug, contact the unity developers. If they are slow in fixing it - consider using other software. Gnome is not the only other alternative to unity. Use google or apt-cache search window manager to find the many window manager alternatives. Try them out, see if you like one that works. I use icewm, and like it because it starts in a second or so. (I don't want to wait 5s after logging in...) Helge Hafting -- Ehud Kaplan, Ph.D. Jules and Doris Stein /Research to Prevent Blindness /Professor *Director*, Center of Excellence for /Computational & System neuroscience, The Friedman Brain Institute, MSSM/ *Director*, The laboratory of /Visual & Computational Neuroscience/ Depts. of Neuroscience, Ophthalmology, Chemical & Structural Biology The Mount Sinai School of Medicine One Gustave Levy Place New York, NY, 10029
Re: UNITY (in Ubuntu) kills menus
On 11. aug. 2011 10:03, ehud.kap...@gmail.com wrote: I have discovered that the new Ubuntu 11.04 GUI Unity (or perhaps its appmenu) kills the menus on Lyx 2.0 (and several other programs, such as VLC), possibly because of a qt4 incompatibility. The bug has been known for almost a year. Does anyone have a way of getting around it, short of using gnome instead of Unity? Thanks, If unity has a bug, contact the unity developers. If they are slow in fixing it - consider using other software. Gnome is not the only other alternative to unity. Use google or apt-cache search window manager to find the many window manager alternatives. Try them out, see if you like one that works. I use icewm, and like it because it starts in a second or so. (I don't want to wait 5s after logging in...) Helge Hafting
Re: UNITY (in Ubuntu) kills menus
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 10:03 AM, ehud.kap...@gmail.com wrote: > I have discovered that the new Ubuntu 11.04 GUI Unity (or perhaps its > appmenu) kills the menus on Lyx 2.0 (and several other programs, such as > VLC), possibly because of a qt4 incompatibility. The bug has been known for > almost a year. Does anyone have a way of getting around it, short of using > gnome instead of Unity? > This isn't much different, but I would suggest using Xfce instead of Unity. Since I always use Xfce, I haven't yet encountered this Unity bug and haven't investigated it, either. Sorry. Regards Liviu
