Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-19 Thread G. Milde
On 13.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 13 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: On 12.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: In answer to your previous comments: I tried setting the keyboard to Greek, but it doesn't do anything. Looking at the greek.kmap file I see that it doesn't really contain any

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-19 Thread G. Milde
On 13.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 13 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: On 12.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: In answer to your previous comments: I tried setting the keyboard to Greek, but it doesn't do anything. Looking at the greek.kmap file I see that it doesn't really contain any

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-19 Thread G. Milde
On 13.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: > On 13 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: > > On 12.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: > In answer to your previous comments: I tried setting the keyboard to > Greek, but it doesn't do anything. Looking at the greek.kmap file I see > that it doesn't really contain any

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-13 Thread G. Milde
On 12.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 12 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: A bit of background to all this: my wife is Greek and needs to type Greek occasionally; she is also a purist about accents etc. (Byzantine enthusiast). She is not happy seeing non-Greek characters on screen. In this case,

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-13 Thread G. Milde
On 12.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: Yes, I do have dejavu (ttf-dejavu) but I don't know how to tell lyx to use it - it doesn't appear as a choice. But I'm not sure that what I am trying to do is possible in Lyx (see my reply to Gunter below). 1. Does DejaVu appear as a choice in other

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-13 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 13 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: On 12.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: Yes, I do have dejavu (ttf-dejavu) but I don't know how to tell lyx to use it - it doesn't appear as a choice. But I'm not sure that what I am trying to do is possible in Lyx (see my reply to Gunter below). 1. Does

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-13 Thread Pavel Sanda
It is not just the accents but also hyphenation patterns etc. The distinction is similar to german and ngerman (i.e. old and new spelling), only that the reform in Greece was 20 years earlier). OTOH, it can be a big timesave if you can input strange characters as a combination of ASCII

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-13 Thread G. Milde
On 13.06.08, Pavel Sanda wrote: * Hyphenation and babel generated strings (like Chapter or Table of Contents) depend on the setting of greek vs. polutonikogreek. Just greek language is *not* enough! i have just tried it and don't see what you mean. i took

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-13 Thread G. Milde
On 12.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 12 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: A bit of background to all this: my wife is Greek and needs to type Greek occasionally; she is also a purist about accents etc. (Byzantine enthusiast). She is not happy seeing non-Greek characters on screen. In this case,

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-13 Thread G. Milde
On 12.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: Yes, I do have dejavu (ttf-dejavu) but I don't know how to tell lyx to use it - it doesn't appear as a choice. But I'm not sure that what I am trying to do is possible in Lyx (see my reply to Gunter below). 1. Does DejaVu appear as a choice in other

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-13 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 13 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: On 12.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: Yes, I do have dejavu (ttf-dejavu) but I don't know how to tell lyx to use it - it doesn't appear as a choice. But I'm not sure that what I am trying to do is possible in Lyx (see my reply to Gunter below). 1. Does

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-13 Thread Pavel Sanda
It is not just the accents but also hyphenation patterns etc. The distinction is similar to german and ngerman (i.e. old and new spelling), only that the reform in Greece was 20 years earlier). OTOH, it can be a big timesave if you can input strange characters as a combination of ASCII

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-13 Thread G. Milde
On 13.06.08, Pavel Sanda wrote: * Hyphenation and babel generated strings (like Chapter or Table of Contents) depend on the setting of greek vs. polutonikogreek. Just greek language is *not* enough! i have just tried it and don't see what you mean. i took

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-13 Thread G. Milde
On 12.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: > On 12 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: > A bit of background to all this: my wife is Greek and needs to type > Greek occasionally; she is also a purist about accents etc. (Byzantine > enthusiast). She is not happy seeing non-Greek characters on screen. In this

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-13 Thread G. Milde
On 12.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: > Yes, I do have dejavu (ttf-dejavu) but I don't know how to tell lyx to > use it - it doesn't appear as a choice. But I'm not sure that what I am > trying to do is possible in Lyx (see my reply to Gunter below). 1. Does DejaVu appear as a choice in other

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-13 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 13 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: > On 12.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: > > > Yes, I do have dejavu (ttf-dejavu) but I don't know how to tell lyx to > > use it - it doesn't appear as a choice. But I'm not sure that what I am > > trying to do is possible in Lyx (see my reply to Gunter below). > >

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-13 Thread Pavel Sanda
> It is not just the accents but also hyphenation patterns etc. > > The distinction is similar to german and ngerman (i.e. old and new > spelling), only that the reform in Greece was 20 years earlier). > > OTOH, it can be a big timesave if you can input "strange" characters as a > combination

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-13 Thread G. Milde
On 13.06.08, Pavel Sanda wrote: > > * Hyphenation and babel generated strings (like "Chapter" or "Table of > > Contents") depend on the setting of "greek" vs. "polutonikogreek". > > > > Just greek language is *not* enough! > i have just tried it and don't see what you mean. i took >

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-12 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 12 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: i would like to summarize the my understanding of the problems i encountered, please comment on: 1. Screen painting. after installing unicode fonts for X displaying ancient greek letters works in lyx without problems. [snip] Not here. I've set

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-12 Thread Pavel Sanda
On 12 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: i would like to summarize the my understanding of the problems i encountered, please comment on: 1. Screen painting. after installing unicode fonts for X displaying ancient greek letters works in lyx without problems. [snip] Not

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-12 Thread G. Milde
On 12.06.08, Pavel Sanda wrote: Question to the developers: Would it be possible to pass the tilde '~' to LaTeX as-is if the language is set to polutonikogreek? please correct me if i'm wrong, but i think this is wrong direction. how will you determine nonbreak. space vs tilde

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-12 Thread G. Milde
On 12.06.08, Rune Schjellerup Philosof wrote: On some keyboard layouts ~ is a dead key by default (danish for instance). I wonder why tilde is a dead key on danish keyboards, we don't have any chars in our alphabet that use a tilde accent. The same holds for German. I guess someone once

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-12 Thread G. Milde
On 12.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 12 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: i would like to summarize the my understanding of the problems i encountered, please comment on: 1. Screen painting. after installing unicode fonts for X displaying ancient greek letters works in lyx without

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-12 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 12 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: On 12 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: i would like to summarize the my understanding of the problems i encountered, please comment on: 1. Screen painting. after installing unicode fonts for X displaying ancient greek letters works in

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-12 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 12 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: This is not about conversion but display: * If you paste polytonic Greek text from e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_diacritics, this should show up in greek letters with diacritics at the correct place. * If you input latin letters and

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-12 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 12 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: i would like to summarize the my understanding of the problems i encountered, please comment on: 1. Screen painting. after installing unicode fonts for X displaying ancient greek letters works in lyx without problems. [snip] Not here. I've set

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-12 Thread Pavel Sanda
On 12 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: i would like to summarize the my understanding of the problems i encountered, please comment on: 1. Screen painting. after installing unicode fonts for X displaying ancient greek letters works in lyx without problems. [snip] Not

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-12 Thread G. Milde
On 12.06.08, Pavel Sanda wrote: Question to the developers: Would it be possible to pass the tilde '~' to LaTeX as-is if the language is set to polutonikogreek? please correct me if i'm wrong, but i think this is wrong direction. how will you determine nonbreak. space vs tilde

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-12 Thread G. Milde
On 12.06.08, Rune Schjellerup Philosof wrote: On some keyboard layouts ~ is a dead key by default (danish for instance). I wonder why tilde is a dead key on danish keyboards, we don't have any chars in our alphabet that use a tilde accent. The same holds for German. I guess someone once

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-12 Thread G. Milde
On 12.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 12 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: i would like to summarize the my understanding of the problems i encountered, please comment on: 1. Screen painting. after installing unicode fonts for X displaying ancient greek letters works in lyx without

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-12 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 12 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: On 12 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: i would like to summarize the my understanding of the problems i encountered, please comment on: 1. Screen painting. after installing unicode fonts for X displaying ancient greek letters works in

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-12 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 12 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: This is not about conversion but display: * If you paste polytonic Greek text from e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_diacritics, this should show up in greek letters with diacritics at the correct place. * If you input latin letters and

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-12 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 12 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: > > i would like to summarize the my understanding of the problems i encountered, > please comment on: > > 1. Screen painting. > after installing unicode fonts for X displaying ancient greek letters works > in lyx > without problems. > [snip] Not here.

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-12 Thread Pavel Sanda
> On 12 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: > > > > i would like to summarize the my understanding of the problems i > > encountered, > > please comment on: > > > > 1. Screen painting. > > after installing unicode fonts for X displaying ancient greek letters works > > in lyx > > without problems. > >

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-12 Thread G. Milde
On 12.06.08, Pavel Sanda wrote: > > > > Question to the developers: Would it be possible to pass the tilde '~' > > > > to LaTeX as-is if the language is set to polutonikogreek? > > > > > please correct me if i'm wrong, but i think this is wrong direction. > > > how will you determine nonbreak.

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-12 Thread G. Milde
On 12.06.08, Rune Schjellerup Philosof wrote: > On some keyboard layouts ~ is a dead key by default (danish for instance). > I wonder why tilde is a dead key on danish keyboards, we don't have any > chars in our alphabet that use a tilde accent. The same holds for German. > I guess someone

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-12 Thread G. Milde
On 12.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: > On 12 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: > > > > i would like to summarize the my understanding of the problems i > > encountered, please comment on: > > > > 1. Screen painting. > > after installing unicode fonts for X displaying ancient greek letters > > works

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-12 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 12 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: > > On 12 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: > > > > > > i would like to summarize the my understanding of the problems i > > > encountered, > > > please comment on: > > > > > > 1. Screen painting. > > > after installing unicode fonts for X displaying ancient greek

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-12 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 12 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: > > This is not about conversion but display: > > * If you paste polytonic Greek text from e.g. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_diacritics, this should show up in > greek letters with diacritics at the correct place. > > * If you input latin letters and

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-11 Thread Pavel Sanda
Question to the developers: Would it be possible to pass the tilde '~' to LaTeX as-is if the language is set to polutonikogreek? please correct me if i'm wrong, but i think this is wrong direction. how will you determine nonbreak. space vs tilde accent then? The same way as

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-11 Thread Rune Schjellerup Philosof
Pavel Sanda skrev: (or even hard code ~ as a dead key). On some keyboard layouts ~ is a dead key by default (danish for instance). My guess is that people, who wish to write greek, use such a keyboard layout (or changes to one). I wonder why tilde is a dead key on danish keyboards, we

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-11 Thread Pavel Sanda
Question to the developers: Would it be possible to pass the tilde '~' to LaTeX as-is if the language is set to polutonikogreek? please correct me if i'm wrong, but i think this is wrong direction. how will you determine nonbreak. space vs tilde accent then? The same way as

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-11 Thread Rune Schjellerup Philosof
Pavel Sanda skrev: (or even hard code ~ as a dead key). On some keyboard layouts ~ is a dead key by default (danish for instance). My guess is that people, who wish to write greek, use such a keyboard layout (or changes to one). I wonder why tilde is a dead key on danish keyboards, we

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-11 Thread Pavel Sanda
> > > Question to the developers: Would it be possible to pass the tilde '~' > > > to LaTeX as-is if the language is set to polutonikogreek? > > > please correct me if i'm wrong, but i think this is wrong direction. > > how will you determine nonbreak. space vs tilde accent then? > > The same

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-11 Thread Rune Schjellerup Philosof
Pavel Sanda skrev: (or even hard code ~ as a dead key). On some keyboard layouts ~ is a dead key by default (danish for instance). My guess is that people, who wish to write greek, use such a keyboard layout (or changes to one). I wonder why tilde is a dead key on danish keyboards, we