Re: [M100] Droid and the Model T

[kurt . mccullum]

I have never seen that writeup before but thanks to whoever took the time to document the Android version. The Windows version has better documentation.
 But to answer your question about which tablet. Any that has an os greater that 4.4 and supports USB otg. I think 4.2 works also but I have never tested it.
For Linux you best bet is LaddieAlpha.
Kurt
On Feb 21, 2018 9:17 PM, Joan Leach  wrote:http://www.planetnz.com/palmheads/tandy.php?pg=androidIt's near the bottom...Thanks Kurt, if I can't figure it out on one of my Linux systems, I'll have a reason for a tablet that can work as a phone, since the phone screens are so small. Any Android tablets work better for the Tandy 100?Joan in Reno   From: Darryl Pruett  To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com  Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 9:01 PM Subject: [M100] Droid and the Model T   I read on this list about droid’s ability to storage and transfer files.  Is there how to and what I  need to do this?

Re: [M100] modern cross-assemblers for M100?

[Kevin Becker]

Apple is pretty strict when it comes to emulators.  Applications can't run
code that comes from other sources, bypassing the app store.

It would be possible to port it and release it as source-code that you
would need to compile and side-load on your own though.  You can get a free
developer account that allows you to sign code to run on your own devices.

On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 6:51 PM, megarat  wrote:

> Speaking of VirtualT, is there any chance that it will be ported to a
> mobile platform anytime in the future?  Using VirtualT on my iPad with a BT
> keyboard sounds like a dream come true.  I'd pay $20 for that without
> blinking.
>
> I imagine that if VirtualT uses any proprietary ROMs, copyright issues
> might get in the way of a wider distribution, but I'm not sure what's going
> on under the hood.
>
> CAM
>

Re: [M100] modern cross-assemblers for M100?

[John R. Hogerhuis]

Agree. Apple won’t allow emulators AFAIK.

I avoided the whole issue by creating CloudT as a web app.

Not as good as VT but it works.

— John.

Re: [M100] modern cross-assemblers for M100?

[Ken Pettit]

Yeah, it would have to be distributed as an apk file that you load 
manually and that is distributed via an underground network.  I once 
ported VirtualT to a Blackberry Pearl device, but it was insanely slow.


Instead of spending time to port VT to an iPad, I need to just write a 
progam so I can say "Computer, please port VirtualT to the Apple iPad." 
and have it respond 5 seconds later telling me it is ready.


Ken

On 2/22/18 11:54 AM, John R. Hogerhuis wrote:

Agree. Apple won’t allow emulators AFAIK.

I avoided the whole issue by creating CloudT as a web app.

Not as good as VT but it works.

— John.

Re: [M100] Droid and the Model T

[Daryn Hanright]

It was me! My dear old neglected PalmHeads website. Ha.

Daryn

On 23/02/2018 2:22 AM,  wrote:

> I have never seen that writeup before but thanks to whoever took the time
> to document the Android version. The Windows version has better
> documentation.
>
> But to answer your question about which tablet. Any that has an os greater
> that 4.4 and supports USB otg. I think 4.2 works also but I have never
> tested it.
>
> For Linux you best bet is LaddieAlpha.
>
> Kurt
> On Feb 21, 2018 9:17 PM, Joan Leach  wrote:
>
> http://www.planetnz.com/palmheads/tandy.php?pg=android
>
> It's near the bottom...
>
> Thanks Kurt, if I can't figure it out on one of my Linux systems, I'll
> have a reason for a tablet that can work as a phone, since the phone
> screens are so small. Any Android tablets work better for the Tandy 100?
> Joan in Reno
>
> --
> *From:* Darryl Pruett 
> *To:* m100@lists.bitchin100.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 21, 2018 9:01 PM
> *Subject:* [M100] Droid and the Model T
>
> I read on this list about droid’s ability to storage and transfer files.
> Is there how to and what I  need to do this?
>
>
>

Re: [M100] modern cross-assemblers for M100?

[Willard Goosey]

On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 18:10:14 + (UTC)
megarat  wrote:

> what cross-assemblers people would use today for developing such
> software on the M100.  Is there a standard "go-to" package that is
> used by the Model T community?  I noticed GNUSim8085, which seems
> intriguing, but I haven't looked at it too closely.
> 
I think that has mostly been covered, except for Asm80 (old-school
mostly CP/M compatible 8080) and ZMAC (very nice z80 assembler -- has a
cli flag to mark z80-only opcodes as errors).

asm80 is on my website, ZMAC is around on the Net.

Willard
-- 
Willard Goosey  goo...@sdc.org
Socorro, New Mexico, USA
I search my heart and find Cimmeria, land of Darkness and the Night.
  -- R.E. Howard

Re: [M100] Droid and the Model T

[Kurt McCullum]

Daryn,
It may be neglected but I appreciate you putting it together. I'll keep a link 
to it for the next time someone asks for instructions.
Kurt 

On Thursday, February 22, 2018 12:32 PM, Daryn Hanright  
wrote:
 

 It was me! My dear old neglected PalmHeads website. Ha.
Daryn
On 23/02/2018 2:22 AM,  wrote:

I have never seen that writeup before but thanks to whoever took the time to 
document the Android version. The Windows version has better documentation. But 
to answer your question about which tablet. Any that has an os greater that 4.4 
and supports USB otg. I think 4.2 works also but I have never tested it.For 
Linux you best bet is LaddieAlpha.KurtOn Feb 21, 2018 9:17 PM, Joan Leach 
 wrote:

http://www.planetnz.com/ palmheads/tandy.php?pg=android

It's near the bottom...
Thanks Kurt, if I can't figure it out on one of my Linux systems, I'll have a 
reason for a tablet that can work as a phone, since the phone screens are so 
small. Any Android tablets work better for the Tandy 100?
Joan in Reno

  From: Darryl Pruett 
 To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 9:01 PM
 Subject: [M100] Droid and the Model T
  
I read on this list about droid’s ability to storage and transfer files.  Is 
there how to and what I  need to do this?

   



   

Re: [M100] modern cross-assemblers for M100?

[Jerry Stratton]

On Feb 22, 2018, at 1:01 PM, Kevin Becker  wrote:
> Apple is pretty strict when it comes to emulators.  Applications can't run 
> code that comes from other sources, bypassing the app store. 

This isn’t true any more, although I don’t know the limits of the new policy. 
Pythonista, for example, as of the latest version, uses iCloud Drive to 
transfer Python programs to and from the app.

Jerry

http://www.hoboes.com/Mimsy/
"After midnight, all things are possible."

[M100] OPL2LPT (was: List of wanna haves)

[Jim Williams]

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"...I use my LPT port for an OPL2 card and not sure I want to reuse the port."


OMG... You got an OPL2LPT AdLib clone working on the M100's parallel port? 
That's just awesome!

I *gotta* get one now!

The 8-Bit Guy is selling kits and pre-assembled models. I'm still debating 
about getting a kit or an assembled version (getting the kit would involve 
getting a soldering station set-up, which I want to do eventually anyway).
http://www.the8bitguy.com/product/opl2lpt-ad-lib-compatible-parallel-sound-card/

In a later message, Frederick Whitaker said:

Message: 19
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 16:27:53 -0500
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Subject: Re: [M100] List of wanna haves
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"...Why are we not writing programs for the Model "T" anymore? Why are we 
trying to
mimic the contemporary Desk Top Computer? Why are we not writing
assembly programs for it?"

My interest in the M100 is in writing games within its native limitations. 
Tools such as the Rex and possibly DVI would make that easier.
Might I hope that soon we'll be seeing a plethora of software written to take 
advantage of the OPL2LPT on the M100? Software to play adlib music (a lot of 
which is available on the internet), software to compose adlib music, and games 
incorporating adlib support?

Now that I know that an OPL2LPT can work with the model 100, I hope to add 
support for it in any games I write for the M100.

Game ideas I've been toying with (games have to accept the limitations of the 
slow LCD update...):
Imperial Stars - a strategy game based on "Reach for the Stars" for the C64.
The Organ Trail - A survival simulation based on the remake of "The Oregon 
Trail".
and a few other ideas I'm toying with.
---
Side note regarding the DVI "discussion" - I haven't tested it yet, but I got 
some keyboard wedge software, Bill Redirect, that would allow me to use my M100 
as a keyboard on my Windows 7 system, connected via serial port either null 
modem or with a bluetooth adapter. This would theoretically allow me to 
"program" macros into my M100 keyboard, and with custom software on the M100 I 
could use the M100's display to provide things such as status. Again, 
theoretically, I could have custom templates on the M100 that could use to 
change the macros based upon what software I was working on on the Win7 machine 
(one template for Word, one template for Blender, one template for Everquest, 
etc...)

[M100] M100 Docking Station (was TDock)

[Jim Williams]

Okay, first my disclaimer:

I think I've pretty much established how ignorant of the hardware side 
of things I am (not much better on software), but I throw out ideas and 
ask questions both to alleviate my ignorance, and to maybe give an idea 
to someone who *does* know something, who can use that to develop maybe 
something completely different.


I've been following the TDock discussion, and the debate over using 
superior hardware vs limited hardware.
Most popular seems to be some kind of external video without tying up 
the parallel or serial port.

Elsewhere I saw a project (which I intend to pursue when I have 
funds/tools/basic skills) to build an XT SBC onto an 8-bit ISA card. The 
same place had a project for a matching 8-bit ISA backplane.

What I want to suggest is, instead of tying up the expansion port with a 
dedicated external video solution, or external video with storage 
solution, or even tying it into a Pi, some capable person tie it into 
such an ISA backplane.

The reason 8-bit ISA comes to mind is, *as I understand it*, is that 
it's slow, simple, and common. Do I expect connecting to it to enable 
people to use an 8-bit VGA card with their Model T? Nope. But it might 
allow for custom ISA boards to be developed to expand the capability of 
the Model T. Someone linked to a serial VGA adapter... so someone could 
theoretically develop an ISA adapter for it. Or maybe develop a 
multi-I/O card that would give the Model T more serial/parallel ports 
for expansion. Or a custom IDE and/or floppy drive adapter.

I would imagine the first card developed would have to be an interface 
board to talk between the other slots and the M100 and do whatever 
conversion, mapping, routing that would need to be done.

I don't know; maybe an ISA CGA, EGA or VGA card *could* be adapted to 
work with the model T. Maybe an adlib or even soundblaster audio card 
could be adapted to work with the model T. Maybe even a network card 
could be adapted to it. I would think if a serial port bluetooth or wifi 
adapter can be made for the Model T, such an adapter should be doable on 
an ISA card connected to the system bus.

Or getting really wild, maybe a dedicated co-processor board, such as an 
FPGA or 8087 card, or a form of Rex and/or Quad. Or a 2nd custom Rom ISA 
card. Or a CP/M card with all the extra memory etc CP/M needs. Or a RAM 
expansion with an MMU so one could write software using more than the 
system's 32k.

It just seems to me that such a standardized docking station with 
multiple card slots (and it doesn't have to be ISA, I just chose that 
for above reasons and it's what inspired the thought) would be more 
versatile and useful than dedicated solutions for specific functions, 
with the added benefit that it doesn't require an OP 2nd computer to do 
it. It's just an expansion dock as has existed for PC laptops since the 80s.

Can I do any of this? Not a bit of it, not until I did a LOT of 
learning, at best. But there are people on this list who *do* like doing 
hardware mods. And there are people on this list, myself included, 
who've already expressed a willingness to pay for expanded capabilities 
for their Model T. So if this inspires some hardware guru... mission 
accomplished. At the very least I hope to learn why this is a stupid idea.

So... flame away...