Re: [M100] M100 Digest, Vol 80, Issue 9

2017-08-11 Thread Brian White
t is that when dealing with vintage equipment like the Model T or > even an external modem do not assume that a female DB25 is a parallel port > as IBM have (re)defined it. > > m > > > - Original Message - > > *From:* Brian White <bw.al...@gmail.com> >

Re: [M100] M100 Digest, Vol 80, Issue 9

2017-08-11 Thread Mike Stein
o: m...@bitchin100.com Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [M100] M100 Digest, Vol 80, Issue 9 It's wired as DTE, but with a female connector. *That's* what makes it backwards, not merely the female connector by itself. If it were a female connector, and wired as DCE, that wo

Re: [M100] M100 Digest, Vol 80, Issue 9

2017-08-11 Thread Brian White
err good grief yet another correction. I missed your very last line Josh, which obviates my entire post. "oh well" indeed ;) On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 6:18 PM, Brian White wrote: > I didn't notice that last post didn't include any quoting. Meant to reply > to Josh, and neither

Re: [M100] M100 Digest, Vol 80, Issue 9

2017-08-11 Thread Brian White
I didn't notice that last post didn't include any quoting. Meant to reply to Josh, and neither contradicting nor adding to what Mike already said. On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 6:13 PM, Brian White wrote: > It's wired as DTE, but with a female connector. *That's* what makes it >

Re: [M100] M100 Digest, Vol 80, Issue 9

2017-08-11 Thread Brian White
It's wired as DTE, but with a female connector. *That's* what makes it backwards, not merely the female connector by itself. If it were a female connector, and wired as DCE, that would be unusual for a computer, but it would still be conforming to the same conventions as everything else. When

Re: [M100] M100 Digest, Vol 80, Issue 9

2017-08-11 Thread Mike Stein
he parallel port. m - Original Message - From: Josh Malone To: m...@bitchin100.com Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [M100] M100 Digest, Vol 80, Issue 9 Depends on whether you consider the M100 to be "communications equipment" or "termin

Re: [M100] M100 Digest, Vol 80, Issue 9

2017-08-11 Thread Josh Malone
Depends on whether you consider the M100 to be "communications equipment" or "terminal equipment". From the perspective of "this is a device to be hooked up to your main PC" then female makes sense, somewhere. But I think the port is wired as terminal equipment, which then puts it (technically) in

Re: [M100] M100 Digest, Vol 80, Issue 9

2017-08-10 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 7:22 PM, Brian White wrote: > > * I heard someone suggest that actually the M100 was probably technically > correct according to the standards of the time, and predated the PC, and > it's actually the IBM PC that came along, backwards, and essentially

Re: [M100] M100 Digest, Vol 80, Issue 9

2017-08-10 Thread Brian White
A zip parallel plug would physically fit on a M100 thanks to the M100's backwards* gender, so some confusion is understandable. * I heard someone suggest that actually the M100 was probably technically correct according to the standards of the time, and predated the PC, and it's actually the IBM

Re: [M100] M100 Digest, Vol 80, Issue 9

2017-08-10 Thread Mark J. Blair
> On Aug 10, 2017, at 3:06 PM, Kurt McCullum wrote: > > Robert, > > Those early Zip drives were Parallel or SCSI, not serial. If your drive has a > male DB25 cable then that would be the cable that connected to a printer port > on a PC. The external Zip drives with

Re: [M100] M100 Digest, Vol 80, Issue 9

2017-08-10 Thread Kurt McCullum
Robert, Those early Zip drives were Parallel or SCSI, not serial. If your drive has a male DB25 cable then that would be the cable that connected to a printer port on a PC. Kurt On Thursday, August 10, 2017 2:55 PM, Robert Prather wrote: Hi All, I'm

Re: [M100] M100 Digest, Vol 80, Issue 9

2017-08-10 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Robert Prather wrote: > Another idea I had was the iomega Zip drive. One time on an eBay auction > (I go there frequently to watch for new model 100 stuff), I noticed someone > who was selling a model 100 with a zip drive and several

Re: [M100] M100 Digest, Vol 80, Issue 9

2017-08-10 Thread Robert Prather
Hi All, I'm putting the floppy disk idea on hold for the time being. Another idea I had was the iomega Zip drive. One time on an eBay auction (I go there frequently to watch for new model 100 stuff), I noticed someone who was selling a model 100 with a zip drive and several zip disks. Apparently