Re: [Mactel-linux-users] new MBP use nvidia

2007-06-09 Thread daniel g. siegel
seems like nvidia would work ;) [1] daniel [1]: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_100.14.09.html -- this mail was sent using 100% recycled electrons daniel g. siegel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://home.cs.tum.edu/~siegel gnupg key id: 0x

Re: [Mactel-linux-users] new MBP use nvidia

2007-06-07 Thread Sven Anders
gela schrieb: > Hi, > > I bought mine yesterdayand itś shiny, shiny... > > But, there are buts...a lot of buts...I mean, I use debian, is my os, > and I love it, but the instalation in the new MBP..argghhh!! > > First of all, the ethernet card is missing -at least the drivers - the > only on

Re: [Mactel-linux-users] new MBP use nvidia

2007-06-07 Thread Nick Hoffman
On 08/06/07, gela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I bought mine yesterdayand itś shiny, shiny... But, there are buts...a lot of buts...I mean, I use debian, is my os, and I love it, but the instalation in the new MBP..argghhh!! First of all, the ethernet card is missing -at least the drive

Re: [Mactel-linux-users] new MBP use nvidia

2007-06-07 Thread gela
Hi, I bought mine yesterdayand itś shiny, shiny... But, there are buts...a lot of buts...I mean, I use debian, is my os, and I love it, but the instalation in the new MBP..argghhh!! First of all, the ethernet card is missing -at least the drivers - the only ones that the MBP have knowledge

Re: [Mactel-linux-users] new MBP use nvidia

2007-06-06 Thread Sheer El-Showk
Hi Ottavio, You probably won't listen to me (I probably didn't listen to others) because these machines look so incredible and seem so nice but my advice to you is to _not_ buy an MBP, at least not any time soon. This is assuming you want to use Linux as a main OS. I love Linux and have been usin

Re: [Mactel-linux-users] new MBP use nvidia

2007-06-06 Thread Sven Anders
Ottavio Campana schrieb: > Nick Hoffman wrote: >> On 06/06/07, *Ottavio Campana* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > wrote: >> >> I'm wondering how Nvidia drivers work with efi. In order to use the ATI >> drivers bootcamp was necessary because they relied on BIOS. How do >>

Re: [Mactel-linux-users] new MBP use nvidia

2007-06-05 Thread Jon Grosshart
On 6/5/07, Nick Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Apple says not to use their laptops at an angle or on your lap?? where'd you read this? a URL would be great.. -Nick This isn't the link I was talking about, but I think it's what the article was refering to... http://docs.info.apple.com/a

Re: [Mactel-linux-users] new MBP use nvidia

2007-06-05 Thread Jon Grosshart
On 6/5/07, Nick Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: some of the "little dots" on my MBP C2D are silver, and others are gold. it's possible the gold ones are brown though, as there's a translucent piece of plastic above the exposed PCB that could be tricking my eyes, and i don't want to remove it

Re: [Mactel-linux-users] new MBP use nvidia

2007-06-05 Thread Joel Beaudoin
Hi, I'm speaking of the firmware updates (EFI, in this case) that we get as part of a normal OSX software update. These are probably also included in bootcamp, but if the OSX software is up-to-date, a user will already have the firmware update that includes the BIOS emulation. Here is the

Re: [Mactel-linux-users] new MBP use nvidia

2007-06-05 Thread Nick Hoffman
On 06/06/07, Ottavio Campana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: really? I'm buying a mbp in the next days and therefore I haven't tried yet, but reading some pages I always found that ati drivers require a legacy bios. For example, here http://modular.math.washington.edu/macbook/ I found | I reconfigu

Re: [Mactel-linux-users] new MBP use nvidia

2007-06-05 Thread Nick Hoffman
On 06/06/07, Joel Beaudoin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Most people think that bootcamp provides the BIOS functionality. It is actually the firmware update that does that and is independent of bootcamp. hi Joel. which firmware are you referring to? -Nick ---

Re: [Mactel-linux-users] new MBP use nvidia

2007-06-05 Thread Nick Hoffman
On 06/06/07, Jon Grosshart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Oh.. Out of curiosity... You guys should pop out your battery and take a look at the circuit board underneath it. You'll see some "white dots".. Mine are brown due to heat issues. God I love my macbook... I'm so glad Apple sold me a quality p

Re: [Mactel-linux-users] new MBP use nvidia

2007-06-05 Thread Ottavio Campana
Nick Hoffman wrote: > i know nothing about video cards, so apologies if the answers to these > questions are common knowledge. does the nVidia GeForce 8600M GT (which > comes in the new 15-inch MBP) ... > -have power-saving features? from http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_8600M.html NVIDIA Pow

Re: [Mactel-linux-users] new MBP use nvidia

2007-06-05 Thread Ottavio Campana
Nick Hoffman wrote: > On 06/06/07, *Ottavio Campana* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > I'm wondering how Nvidia drivers work with efi. In order to use the ATI > drivers bootcamp was necessary because they relied on BIOS. How do > Nvidia drivers work? Do they s

Re: [Mactel-linux-users] new MBP use nvidia

2007-06-05 Thread Ken Mandelberg
Does the Linux Nvidia driver support xvideo (it must), and if so what attributes? I ask because the older intels (955 and older) support brightness, contrast, and satauration but not hue. The newer intels (965) don't currently support any of the those. What about xvmc? Is this a good machine f

Re: [Mactel-linux-users] new MBP use nvidia

2007-06-05 Thread Jon Grosshart
On 6/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 11:59:51 -0400, "Jon Grosshart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now I'm just plain pissed... :-( Damnit!!! > > Knew I should have held off for a year or 2 untill Apple had the MBP's out > for awhile... wait and see if yo

Re: [Mactel-linux-users] new MBP use nvidia

2007-06-05 Thread Joel Beaudoin
Most people think that bootcamp provides the BIOS functionality. It is actually the firmware update that does that and is independent of bootcamp. On Jun 5, 2007, at 4:51 PM, Nick Hoffman wrote: On 06/06/07, Ottavio Campana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm wondering how Nvidia drivers work

Re: [Mactel-linux-users] new MBP use nvidia

2007-06-05 Thread Nick Hoffman
On 06/06/07, Ottavio Campana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm wondering how Nvidia drivers work with efi. In order to use the ATI drivers bootcamp was necessary because they relied on BIOS. How do Nvidia drivers work? Do they still need the BIOS and therefore bootcamp, or can we get rid of it?

Re: [Mactel-linux-users] new MBP use nvidia

2007-06-05 Thread Ottavio Campana
Sheer El-Showk wrote: > Hey All, > > I've got a new idea to solve my Linux woes. The new MBPs that just > came out today use Nvidia graphics cards. I am now seriously plotting > to somehow sell this one, eat the loss (hopefully not too much), and > get a new one with an NVidia card. > > I'd lov

Re: [Mactel-linux-users] new MBP use nvidia

2007-06-05 Thread Jon Grosshart
On 6/5/07, Sheer El-Showk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey All, The new MBPs that just came out today use Nvidia graphics cards. Now I'm just plain pissed... :-( Damnit!!! Knew I should have held off for a year or 2 untill Apple had the MBP's out for awhile... Thanks alot Sheer!!! :-) These

Re: [Mactel-linux-users] new MBP use nvidia

2007-06-05 Thread Sheer El-Showk
Hi Nick, I presume it has power-saving features because Apple claims the new MBP has as long a battery life as the MacBook (they say 6 hrs which probably means 4.5 hrs realistically). The main point for me is that nvidia has much better drivers for Linux than ATI does. They were discussed on pho

Re: [Mactel-linux-users] new MBP use nvidia

2007-06-05 Thread Nick Hoffman
On 05/06/07, Sheer El-Showk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey All, I've got a new idea to solve my Linux woes. The new MBPs that just came out today use Nvidia graphics cards. I am now seriously plotting to somehow sell this one, eat the loss (hopefully not too much), and get a new one with an N