Re: web site navigation by group verses DOM: Opinions wanted

2015-06-17 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Grant, Thank you for all these tips. I was actually aware of all of them with the exception of the fast searching. I suppose that I could set up fast searching with the right command key, then simply just attach it to an activity which I assign to Safari.app? If so, then beautiful! This

Tracking protection in Safari

2015-06-17 Thread Angus MacKinnon
In Fire fox 35, an option regarding Tracking was introduced. Can this tracking be done in Safari? I see the reading List option in Safari’s menubar. Thank you. Vaquero and the human Angus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To

menus on web pages causing problems

2015-06-17 Thread Mike Arrigo
Hey everyone, I'm wondering if anyone else has seen this. This is with mac os version 10.10.3 and the newest version of safari. On some pages, voiceover will say something like menu, 7 items, and no matter what you do, will not navigate that page. Tabbing does nothing, you can navigate down

Re: menus on web pages causing problems

2015-06-17 Thread Andrew Lamanche
Yes, I've experienced this behaviour to my utter dismay. Sometimes it helps to change to group navigation mode to overcome this problem. I have no idea what happens but it does for instance the national lottery page in the UK. It makes it impossible to navigate. Interestingly, if you toggle

Re: Crashplan Accessibility

2015-06-17 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
I didn’t like either, nor Carbonite. I think I mentioned Arq before. If you didn’t try it, check out; 100% accessible, and you choose where you want the data stored. Pricing conditioned on your storage provider. Also on Windows, though I can’t say how accessible it is. -- You received

Re: web site navigation by group verses DOM: Opinions wanted

2015-06-17 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Oh, yeah! I do remember now. Thank you for your help. I greatly appreciate it. Chris. - Original Message - From: Yuma Decaux jamy...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 12:17 PM Subject: Re: web site navigation by group verses DOM: Opinions

Re: web site navigation by group verses DOM: Opinions wanted

2015-06-17 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Eileen, It's actually the right command key that does the quick search navigation, not the right option key, so you should be fine. If you're concerned about globally across the OS not being able to use your right command key, then I'll betcha we can set up an activity just for the specific

Re: Crashplan Accessibility

2015-06-17 Thread Paul Erkens
Hi, I’m using CrashPlan and all I can say is that I’m satisfied. It’s true that the settings button is inaccessible, but I had a phone call with one of their support people and they set it up remotely. At least, they helped me get into my settings. If you are just beginning to use CrashPlan

Re: menus on web pages causing problems

2015-06-17 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Ditto. It’s a problem. When you find a page, tell Apple, for heaven’s sake, or it’ll never get sorted out. Cheers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

Re: Tracking protection in Safari

2015-06-17 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Ooo! You got Firefox to work with voiceover? OK, I wanna hear about this if so! Does it not still produce the busy busy busy message all the time? If not, this is gonna be a gl'lorious! day for me, as with me using firefox and Firefox sync on my Android Nexus 6 device, oh my God that will be

The Activity Manager and Its Purpose

2015-06-17 Thread Eileen
Hi Chris, Thanks for setting this old brain straight. I'll have to take a look in the VO utility under navigation and check this out. On another note, I'm going to start a new thread regarding the activity manager. In simple terms, can you or anyone else on this list explain what the activity

Re: menus on web pages causing problems

2015-06-17 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
You’re right, web 2.0 (and ARIA, by extension) are the spawns of Satan however there are definitely times when VO actually does miss content out entirely, especially in certain multi-level tables. I dunno why this is, but there’s never a problem with any other browser / screen reader combo.

Re: menus on web pages causing problems

2015-06-17 Thread Grant
Sometimes it helps to disable styles, which you can do from the develop menu in the menu bar. If that isn’t showing up, hit CMD+COMMA for Safari’s preferences and navigate to the advanced tab. There is an option to show the development menu there. Grant On Jun 17, 2015, at 12:57 PM, Mike

Re: ^qs about braille display issues

2015-06-17 Thread Stephanie
I think I know what caused it. My iphone went off and somehow my display tried to connect with it. I restarted my mac and all was fine again until my phone went off. Steph - Original Message - From: Scott Davert scottslistm...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Date:

Re: USB devices not working after waking up your computer.

2015-06-17 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, No, sorry, I'm not familiar with editing these parameters. I did a bit of research and it appears that it is not something that should be dived into without some considerable programming knowledge and there is the possibility of causing errors that make your system unbbootable. sorry,

Re: menus on web pages causing problems

2015-06-17 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
I have had this problem. I actually thought at the time something was wrong with the web site. To overcome this, I'd visit the same site on my Work's Windows machine. I know I'm cheating. Kawal. On 17 Jun 2015, at 21:12, Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com wrote: Ditto. It’s a problem.

Re: Tracking protection in Safari

2015-06-17 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Use the ABP lists such as EasyPrivacy and Fanboy’s Annoyances to stamp out large numbers of these parasites. Get the extension AdBlock from getadblock.com, rather than the extension called AdBlockPlus (which is trying to appease the right people, for a price). -- You received this message

Re: menus on web pages causing problems

2015-06-17 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
On web pages there are real menus created using the select element and options within that select. Some sites choose to fake this behavior with piles of spans, divs, css and javascript event handlers. There are lots of reasons they do this such as making a consistent look and feel between

Re: web site navigation by group verses DOM: Opinions wanted

2015-06-17 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
FWIW, I prefer DOM mode all the time. I have tried group mode every now and again, but I found that the supposed efficiency benefits were never there for me, and in fact I’d simply miss out on details that I actually wanted. Since group mode is based on document structure, it should in theory

Re: web site navigation by group verses DOM: Opinions wanted

2015-06-17 Thread Mike Arrigo
I always use dom mode as well, with group mode, you have to interact with everything, no thanks, just give me a structured order of the page. If I want to skip something, there are key strokes to do that. On Jun 17, 2015, at 5:08 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com wrote: FWIW, I

Re: Tracking protection in Safari

2015-06-17 Thread Shaf
Thanks for this. On 6/17/2015 10:02 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote: Use the ABP lists such as EasyPrivacy and Fanboy’s Annoyances to stamp out large numbers of these parasites. Get the extension AdBlock from getadblock.com, rather than the extension called AdBlockPlus (which is trying to

Re: The Activity Manager and Its Purpose

2015-06-17 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Thanks for the sarcasm. I appreciate it. - Original Message - From: E.T. ancient.ali...@icloud.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 11:45 PM Subject: Re: The Activity Manager and Its Purpose Might be time to pull the plug. Its Activity MONITOR

Re: menus on web pages causing problems

2015-06-17 Thread Nicholas Parsons
The work around I use is to open the window menu using VO-m followed by typing w i n, navigate through a couple of the options using the arrow keys, and then press escape. No idea why this affects it but it seems to work. Maybe it’s removing the selection from the webpage and thus making the

Re: The Activity Manager and Its Purpose

2015-06-17 Thread E.T.
Might be time to pull the plug. Its Activity MONITOR that one finds in the Utilities folder. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 6/17/2015 8:42 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: I'm an idiot!

Re: The Activity Manager and Its Purpose

2015-06-17 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I'm an idiot! Did I really call it the Activity quote: manager? OK, it's really! been a long day! What I was talking about was under your Voiceover Utility one of the categories in the table is called Activities. I was using the word Manager very loosly and in this case, very badly, to say

Re: web site navigation by group verses DOM: Opinions wanted

2015-06-17 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi there I very seldom use DOM mode. I’ve tried it a few times, and it didn’t get me what I wanted. Maybe I just don’t do enough web browsing. Gigi On Jun 17, 2015, at 6:52 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: I prefer groups mode in general as I find it more efficient. DOM

Re: safari doesn't open

2015-06-17 Thread Caitlyn Furness
I’ve doen this with the force quit option. when I try and open it again, it does the same thing, just sits there! Very frustrating! Cait On Jun 16, 2015, at 9:29 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Also, does it let you quit? Probably not, if it's busy. If it doesn't, use

Re: web site navigation by group verses DOM: Opinions wanted

2015-06-17 Thread Anne Robertson
I prefer groups mode in general as I find it more efficient. DOM mode seems tedious to me as it’s harder to skip elements when you know a website well. I have a short cut to switch between navigation modes for those times when DOM mode is better, such as when using the Safari Reader. In Groups

web site navigation by group verses DOM: Opinions wanted

2015-06-17 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Hi there. Subject line pretty much says it all. Due to a problem that Chris was having about a week ago reporting issues with beta software he is testing, Somebody here suggested group navigation rather then DOM navigation. I manage a google group myself, and, I was wondering why I couldn't

RE: Renaming cd in itunes.

2015-06-17 Thread george b
The steps you listed will do the job -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 02:09 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Renaming cd in itunes. Hello! I have a cd

Re: safari doesn't open

2015-06-17 Thread Caitlyn Furness
Hi Chris, Since this is a fresh install of the entire OS, I’d assume that it would default to the main apple page. If it did, for some insane reason, keep my usual prefs, I have a blank page set to open as my default home page. I’ll go and delete the plist file for Safari and see if that

Re: safari doesn't open

2015-06-17 Thread Caitlyn Furness
None. I am working with a fresh installation of yosemite with no extras at this point.. Cait On Jun 16, 2015, at 8:29 AM, Shaf shafpa...@gmail.com wrote: Could be your plugins, how many of them have you installed recently? On 6/16/2015 1:27 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote: Hi, when I try and

Re: time for Apple to get a new default voice

2015-06-17 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
You guys realize that Nuance bought Loquendo right? Therefore, we already have Loquendo voices on here. They are Alison, Kate and Susan. Shawn Sent from my White MacBook On Jun 16, 2015, at 6:30 AM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote: I'd love to have the loquendo voices too,

How to Resolve Keychain Error 25320

2015-06-17 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Everyone, The following comes to us courtesy of SimpleHelp.com While I have not experienced this error, personally, I thought I'd post it to the list just in case you come across it. Mark How to Resolve Keychain Error 25320 Posted: 15 Jun 2015 03:00 AM PDT This very brief tutorial will

Re: Apple watch voices

2015-06-17 Thread christopher hallsworth
I don't think so but it would be nice if you could. I have no plans to get a watch right now. On 16 Jun 2015, at 22:53, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I don't have an Apple Watch, nor have actually seen one in person, so forgive me, but can you use Alex on the

Re: does any one know much a apple extreme router costs?

2015-06-17 Thread Caitlyn Furness
Hi, I don’t know if you can share a connection between the air and the i pad.. Here in Canada, the airport extreme is around $299 or thereabouts. At least, that’s what it was when we got ours a couple of years ago.. Cait On Jun 16, 2015, at 7:11 PM, Adrian Leong adrianle...@rocketmail.com

Re: ^qs about braille display issues

2015-06-17 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi Stef Have you tried to unpair your Braille Sense, maybe even go into System Preferences too, and take your Braille Sense out of your computer’s memory first? Then, if it were my braille display, I would restart my computer and try to pair the braille display again, just in case it’s

Renaming cd in itunes.

2015-06-17 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hello! I have a cd here which is included in a radio-drama. Though the itunes database is naming it something else. Do i have to rip the cd first and then rename it or can i rename it bu selecting the title in question and then go to rename? Thanks in advance. /A -- You received this message

Re: time for Apple to get a new default voice

2015-06-17 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Oh, didn’t realize that. They haven’t included the swedish voices yet. Hope they will. /A 17 jun 2015 kl. 08:50 skrev Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com: You guys realize that Nuance bought Loquendo right? Therefore, we already have Loquendo voices on here. They are Alison, Kate and

Re: Renaming cd in itunes.

2015-06-17 Thread David Griffith
I am not sure if you are using Mac or Windows itunes but in either case itunes reads the appropriate CD information from the tag information included in the mp3 files or whatever media format you are using. I would suggest that in either case you need to delete the relevant files from the

USB devices not working after waking up your computer.

2015-06-17 Thread 'Gabriele Battaglia' via MacVisionaries
Hi all. Have you ever faced this issue? On my iMac27 running Yosemite 10.10.3, it happens with an USB sound Card, Tascam US4x4. It's very annoying because when I wake up the computer from sleep, there is no more sound output. Any help? Thanks. Gabriel. -- You received this message because you

Re: Renaming cd in itunes.

2015-06-17 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! I use mac most of the time so i may have to buy ID tag. If i can’t do this in itunes. /A 17 jun 2015 kl. 12:37 skrev David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com: I am not sure if you are using Mac or Windows itunes but in either case itunes reads the appropriate CD information from the tag

Re: USB devices not working after waking up your computer.

2015-06-17 Thread 'Gabriele Battaglia' via MacVisionaries
Reply to the Anders Holmberg's message, wrote on 17/06/2015 at 15:25: Try to unplug and replug it. Hi Anders, yes, it works but I don't want to unplug and replugin it all the time the computer goes sleeping. LOL. Gabriel. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: USB devices not working after waking up your computer.

2015-06-17 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Try to unplug and replug it. I have this issue with my logitech h800 headset. /A 17 jun 2015 kl. 12:50 skrev 'Gabriele Battaglia' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com: Hi all. Have you ever faced this issue? On my iMac27 running Yosemite 10.10.3, it happens with an USB

Re: web site navigation by group verses DOM: Opinions wanted

2015-06-17 Thread Kaare Dehard
Hey whatever works for ya. I switch depending on need but as a long ago and long time windows user for work which involves a lot of browsing, I’ve been more partial to dom. On Jun 17, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there I very seldom use DOM mode. I’ve tried it

Re: web site navigation by group verses DOM: Opinions wanted

2015-06-17 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
what was the difference though? i don't know much about it. when i transfred from windows to mac, i have problem interacting on the pages all the time. is this dom mode or what? On 17 Jun 2015, at 4:17 pm, Kaare Dehard kaare.deh...@gmail.com wrote: Hey whatever works for ya. I switch

Re: ^qs about braille display issues

2015-06-17 Thread Scott Davert
Hello. The other thing to look in to is whether the key assignments have somehow become corrupted. I've seen this happen a few times in the past, resetting VO preferences may fix the situation. Also, can you get to an Apple Store or to another Mac to try it? Scott On 6/17/15, Eugenia Firth

^qs about braille display issues

2015-06-17 Thread Stephanie
Hi all, I'm having some issues with my braille display and navigating. I'm using a braillesense u2 and I'd find that I cant navigate my mac using space with dot one etc. The mac also stops working when I use the routing buttons. How do I fix this? Thanks, Steph -- You received this message

Re: Renaming cd in itunes.

2015-06-17 Thread Barry Hadder
When you insert a cd, iTunes gets the info from the Gracenote database. If you think the title is incorrect, just click the cd info button and change it. Likewise the tracks. Then you can submit the new information to gracenote by clicking the cd options menu button and choosing submit track

Re: does any one know much a apple extreme router costs?

2015-06-17 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, Actually, here in Canada, the Extreme is only $249 now and as mentioned in my earlier post, you can share up to 50 devices through an Airport Extreme. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun 17, 2015, at 01:01, Caitlyn Furness caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I don’t

Re: USB devices not working after waking up your computer.

2015-06-17 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, You could tel your iMac not to sleep. So, in the Energy Saver pane of System Prefs, check the box that says something about preventing your Mac from going to sleep when the display is off. When set in this fashion, the display will still dim or go to sleep, but your computer will remain

Re: web site navigation by group verses DOM: Opinions wanted

2015-06-17 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Ray, I personally find group mode to be very very clunky. Yes, you have to do more Vo-ing around the screen with DOM, I'll give you that, but the thing is, with group navigation, though it might be more reliable at times, I'll even go so far as to grant you that, even though truthfully, I'd

Re: web site navigation by group verses DOM: Opinions wanted

2015-06-17 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I am curious if you, or someone else can tell me how to do this: I was listenning to the Testing Testing webinar which I purchased from Jonathan Mosen, and he had done the coolest thing with his Safari. Apparently, if I understood correctly what he was saying, he's got it set where he can hold

RE: web site navigation by group verses DOM: Opinions wanted

2015-06-17 Thread Junior Lolley KG4ITD
Chris, thank you. Junior Lolley kg4itd Liberty County Emergency Coordinator The 3 C’s of life: choices, chances, and changes. You must make a choice to take a chance or your life will never change. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

Re: web site navigation by group verses DOM: Opinions wanted

2015-06-17 Thread Eileen
Hi Grant and All, If one uses the right option key in web navigation, will it interfere with using the right option key (if set) in keyboard commanders to create shortcuts? I didn't know if the right option key worked independently in different apps. I'm just curious. Thanks. Eileen Sent

Re: USB devices not working after waking up your computer.

2015-06-17 Thread 'Gabriele Battaglia' via MacVisionaries
Il giorno 17/giu/2015, alle ore 17:05, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com ha scritto: Hi, You could tel your iMac not to sleep. So, in the Energy Saver pane of System Prefs, check the box that says something about preventing your Mac from going to sleep when the display is off. When set

RE: Android file transfer vs Mac

2015-06-17 Thread george b
Interact with the place before you try to paste there From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Holton Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 09:36 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Cc: eyes-f...@googlegroups.com Subject: Android file transfer

Re: Renaming cd in itunes.

2015-06-17 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, iTunes on the Mac will do this just fine. similarly, select the tracks related to the album, do a cmd-i to Get Info on the selected items, Modify the album title as needed and leave the rest of the fields alone. VO-space on the OK button or press return and you're done. Later... Tim

Re: web site navigation by group verses DOM: Opinions wanted

2015-06-17 Thread erik burggraaf
No question. group is a much more intuitive way to navigate than dom, taking full advantage of the mac system of navigation as it does. I would use it all the time except that no matter how many upgrades come down the pipe, group mode is consistently very slow. It pauses my browsing with

Re: Renaming cd in itunes.

2015-06-17 Thread David Griffith
Apologies for not specifying Mac instructions more. I did not spot this was a MacVisionaries question and confused this query with a more general Computing list. David Griffith On 17/06/2015 15:59, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi, iTunes on the Mac will do this just fine. similarly, select the

Re: web site navigation by group verses DOM: Opinions wanted

2015-06-17 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, I use Group mode pretty well all the time. As Anne mentioned, it seems much quicker when navigating sites you are familiar with as it allows you to navigate quickly past groups of content on the page that may be irrelevant to you at that time. I also use tab navigation fairly often in

RE: web site navigation by group verses DOM: Opinions wanted

2015-06-17 Thread Junior Lolley KG4ITD
I am still learning the Mac how do you make sure dom is selected please? Junior Lolley kg4itd Liberty County Emergency Coordinator The 3 C’s of life: choices, chances, and changes. You must make a choice to take a chance or your life will never change. -Original Message- From:

Re: web site navigation by group verses DOM: Opinions wanted

2015-06-17 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
If you've not changed it, then it should be set to dom by default. If you want to check though, go into your Voiceover Utility with VO+F8. Then in the categories table, go to web. In there you'll see the option for either group or dom. Again, by default, it should be on Dom. Chris. -

Re: web site navigation by group verses DOM: Opinions wanted

2015-06-17 Thread Yuma Decaux
Christopher, For fast searching, set the right command key as control key and use whatever first letter you want to search for on a site. For example, in google, if the first page of your search is not satisfactory, type right command 2 and you will go straight to page 2 link. Another example

Re: web site navigation by group verses DOM: Opinions wanted

2015-06-17 Thread Grant
I believe Yuma is referring to VoiceOver’s fast searching feature. This can be enabled from within VoiceOver utility (press CTRL+OPTION+F8 to get in there). The setting you want, “enable fast searching”, is in the navigation section. Once you turn this on, you could, for example, go to

Re: web site navigation by group verses DOM: Opinions wanted

2015-06-17 Thread Yuma Decaux
Go to voice over utility/navigation and vo right to the end of it. It’s before the help control. On 18/06/2015, at 1:50 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I don't think you all get the credit you all deserve, frankly... anyway, back to mac related things,

Android file transfer vs Mac

2015-06-17 Thread Bill Holton
Hi. I am having trouble figuring out how to copy a file using my Mac and Android File Transfer. Use command down arrow to get to the folder on Galaxy S6 where I wish to place the file, but command-V does not copy it as I would suspect. I am obviously missing something basic, and any help much

Re: web site navigation by group verses DOM: Opinions wanted

2015-06-17 Thread Christopher Gilland
Oh wow, just saw your signature. You're the coordinator for the emergency response system in your county? Wow! That is awesome! If so, thank you for all the work you guys do for us, regardless the area of jurisdiction/state/county. Chris. -- You received this message because you are

Re: web site navigation by group verses DOM: Opinions wanted

2015-06-17 Thread Christopher Gilland
Uma, Thank you so much for this. This info you've provided is excellent! Where do I set that with the right command key for fast searching? I know I've seen it, I just can't for the life of me recall where. Chris. - Original Message - From: Yuma Decaux jamy...@gmail.com To:

RE: web site navigation by group verses DOM: Opinions wanted

2015-06-17 Thread Junior Lolley KG4ITD
Chris, thanks very much sure appreciate it. It gets tough sometimes. Junior Lolley kg4itd Liberty County Emergency Coordinator The 3 C’s of life: choices, chances, and changes. You must make a choice to take a chance or your life will never change. -Original Message- From:

Re: web site navigation by group verses DOM: Opinions wanted

2015-06-17 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Well, I don't think you all get the credit you all deserve, frankly... anyway, back to mac related things, but I just had! to speak up and say something. So, yeah, thank you for all you do! Chris. - Original Message - From: Junior Lolley KG4ITD eagle...@fairpoint.net To:

RE: web site navigation by group verses DOM: Opinions wanted

2015-06-17 Thread Junior Lolley KG4ITD
Chris, thank you very much. Junior Lolley kg4itd Liberty County Emergency Coordinator The 3 C’s of life: choices, chances, and changes. You must make a choice to take a chance or your life will never change. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com