Re: dom order

2019-11-17 Thread Dave Carlson
Sorry, All I have are: Standard, Bookend Groups, Announce Groups, and Ignore Groups. Where is “Dom”. Dave Carlson Engineer, Pioneer, Farfar, Woodworker, Musician, and Oregonian -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any

Re: dom order

2019-11-17 Thread Lorie McCloud
it's in the vo utility. go to navigation. > On Nov 17, 2019, at 8:43 PM, Dave Carlson wrote: > > Not sure I understand where the Dom vs. Group order reading settings are to > be found. > > Dave Carlson > Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician > > > > > > -- >

Re: dom order

2019-11-17 Thread Dave Carlson
Not sure I understand where the Dom vs. Group order reading settings are to be found. Dave Carlson Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns

Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

2019-11-17 Thread Dave Carlson
Seems as that as messages are now stored in iCloud, you need to make sure that on all your devices you have messages selected in the iCloud settings. My iMessages and SMS messages all sync on my phone and Mac. Dave Carlson Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician --

Re: dom order

2019-11-17 Thread Lorie McCloud
thanks. I saved your email about switching back and forth between modes and I may create a commander for that at some point if I find I need group mode for anything. don't know yet. Lorie > On Nov 17, 2019, at 6:43 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: > > Dom order reads HTML documents like Windows

Re: dom order

2019-11-17 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Dom order reads HTML documents like Windows screen readers. Group order reads them more like Macintosh applications, for example in lists when you have group mode on, you need to interact with the list to see everything inside as individual items. It also tries to arrange things somewhat like

RE: macbook pro not pairing with smart beetle

2019-11-17 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Ok, So it's not ringo or paul staying out of the reach of bullets -Original Message- From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries Sent: Monday, 18 November 2019 11:31 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: macbook pro not pairing with smart beetle Smart Beetle is 14 cell

RE: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

2019-11-17 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Yeah but why not, It’s all coming out of the same service / system Why does it not automatically update synced messages. From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries Sent: Monday, 18 November 2019 11:29 AM To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries Subject: Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac I

RE: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

2019-11-17 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Yerah I mentioned this a month or so back and still haven’t found a solution, As you say it’s working fine with emails even from my watch / phone / computer everything syncs fine deleting or arriving etc. But messages don’t want to update sync automatically like you’d think they would. From:

RE: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

2019-11-17 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Ok, didn’t think non iMessages came through. Must check my settings as that’s probabl;y I’m not getting them. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings Sent: Monday, 18 November 2019 11:09 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Setting for the Messages App

Re: macbook pro not pairing with smart beetle

2019-11-17 Thread 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
Smart Beetle is 14 cell Braille display. > On 17 Nov 2019, at 21:12, Simon A Fogarty wrote: > > What is a smart beatle? > > > > -Original Message- > From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries > Sent: Sunday, 17 November 2019 10:30 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject:

Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

2019-11-17 Thread 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
I don’t think this works at all. There’s no automatic delete on any devices if you delete something on one device. SAd. > On 17 Nov 2019, at 20:42, Petrus Tuerlings wrote: > > Now I’ve got this working, there is still something else that isn’t working > correctly and I’m sure it got discussed

More on my fan high speed problem.

2019-11-17 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! I really not sure what is going on with my macbook air 2015. Catalina made it speed up. Activity manager told me first that VOiceover was the culprit. But i have reset pram and smc and now Voiceover is not the culprit. The activity manager gives no idea on what is going on. Logging out and

Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

2019-11-17 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
You think there would be, as if I delete an email on my phone it’s gone from my Mac and the other way as well. You’d think it would work on the messages ap. I know someone was asking about this very thing a while ago and can’t remember if they came up with a solution. > On 18/11/2019, at

Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

2019-11-17 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Nope, now I’m receiving all messages in the messages app on the Mac regardless of weather weather they are iMessages or text messages. > On 18/11/2019, at 10:11, Simon A Fogarty wrote: > > Hi Petrus, > > I was under the impression that only iMessages came through to other apple > devices >

dom order

2019-11-17 Thread Lorie McCloud
can somebody tell me what dom order is and how it differes from the other setting for navigation in vo utility? I changed my setting and it fixed my problem. I'd like to be aware of what else may change for me in Safari. thanks. Lorie -- The following information is important for all members

Re: reading from the top

2019-11-17 Thread Lorie McCloud
please tell me more about this setting. what's the alternative? I think I am in groups navigation. what should I change it to? > On Nov 17, 2019, at 1:41 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: > > Are you in Groups navigation? I have sometimes found groups navigation will > skip around a bit more. > You

RE: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

2019-11-17 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi Petrus, I wondered about this as well. I have the same problem with my iphone and my watch etc. If I delete a message from my watch it stays on my phone. And same with iPad and phone etc There is no sync between the devices. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Petrus

RE: Sonos Controller for Mac

2019-11-17 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi Angus, No remote for the standard sonos player devices Unless you cout the sonos app on the iphone etc. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Angus MacKinnon Sent: Monday, 18 November 2019 9:05 AM To: MacVisionaries Subject: Re: Sonos Controller for Mac Andrew Thank you for

RE: Is there anybody out there?

2019-11-17 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi Jason, What mail provider / server do you use for your mail system? From: 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries Sent: Monday, 18 November 2019 6:58 AM To: Macvisionaries Subject: Re: Is there anybody out there? I run my own email server, which provides a high degree of control. Obviously, not

RE: macbook pro not pairing with smart beetle

2019-11-17 Thread Simon A Fogarty
What is a smart beatle? -Original Message- From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries Sent: Sunday, 17 November 2019 10:30 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: macbook pro not pairing with smart beetle Has she paired it with her mac via Bluetooth in system preferences?

Re: Sonos Controller for Mac

2019-11-17 Thread Angus MacKinnon
Andrew I have the Sonos Controller App on my iPhone XR. So I can setup and control the Sonos with my iPhone XR already . I would like to do the same on my 2013 iMac running Catalina. I am thinking of getting the Menu Bar App from the Mac Appstore. Angus MacKinnon, Personalism Student Ghandi

RE: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

2019-11-17 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi Petrus, I was under the impression that only iMessages came through to other apple devices Standard text messages I didn’t think worked through that message platform. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings Sent: Sunday, 17 November 2019 9:49 PM To:

RE: Sonos Controller for Mac

2019-11-17 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi angus, I believe there is a sonos controller for the mac os, Or at leat there use to be. I must admit however that I’ve not used it as I only use my sonos from my iPhone and iPad. The ios sonos controller is very easy to use with voiceover. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf

Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

2019-11-17 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Now I’ve got this working, there is still something else that isn’t working correctly and I’m sure it got discussed on this group before. I’m sending and receiving messages on both devices perfectly but if I delete a message on the phone it stays on the Mac and if I delete a message on the Mac

Re: Sonos Controller for Mac

2019-11-17 Thread 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
Yes, Sonos app for iOS & Android are accessible. Appstore is where you need to go. Andrew > On 17 Nov 2019, at 20:05, Angus MacKinnon wrote: > > Andrew > > Thank you for the help. Regarding another issue; is their a Remote Control > for the Sonos? > > Angus MacKinnon, Personalism Student >

Re: Disabeling Preview in Mac Mail Problems

2019-11-17 Thread 'Danny Keys' via MacVisionaries
Hi, I already have the preview lines set to 0. Oh well. Thanks. > On Nov 17, 2019, at 11:49 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: > > Open mail settings and switching to the viewing pane you can find a “list > preview” popup button where you can change from 0 to 5 the number of lines > that are read when

Re: Sonos Controller for Mac

2019-11-17 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Yes. Your phone. Cheers, Donna > On Nov 17, 2019, at 2:05 PM, Angus MacKinnon wrote: > > Andrew > > Thank you for the help. Regarding another issue; is their a Remote Control > for the Sonos? > > Angus MacKinnon, Personalism Student > Ghandi said, “ It is better to have a heart without words

Re: Sonos Controller for Mac

2019-11-17 Thread Angus MacKinnon
Andrew Thank you for the help. Regarding another issue; is their a Remote Control for the Sonos? Angus MacKinnon, Personalism Student Ghandi said, “ It is better to have a heart without words than words without a heart.” -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac

Re: Disabeling Preview in Mac Mail Problems

2019-11-17 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Open mail settings and switching to the viewing pane you can find a “list preview” popup button where you can change from 0 to 5 the number of lines that are read when a message is selected. On my system setting this to 0 prevents this speaking, though personally I do like to be able to hear a

Re: reading from the top

2019-11-17 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Are you in Groups navigation? I have sometimes found groups navigation will skip around a bit more. You can check in VO Utility Web. > On Nov 17, 2019, at 12:53 AM, Lorie McCloud wrote: > > I also noticed that. it started happening with the most recent Safari update. > the tech at Apple

Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

2019-11-17 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Hi, It seems to be working now, and I didn’t have to enter any codes on the Mac side of things. Thanks again, Petrus > On 17/11/2019, at 22:18, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Petrus, > > You need to enable this feature on your iPhone in settings / Messages where > you

Re: Is there anybody out there?

2019-11-17 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
I actually noticed this happening once I upgraded to iOS 13, but I don’t think that is the reason but there could have been a lot of maintenance with email servers around that time. I’m thinking I should sign into gmail web-mail site and add this list address to the contacts in the webmail

Disabeling Preview in Mac Mail Problems

2019-11-17 Thread 'Danny Keys' via MacVisionaries
Hi folks, I have collapsed the horizontal slider but still my previews are being read. Is there another way to disable previews in mail? -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list,

Re: Is there anybody out there?

2019-11-17 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
I run my own email server, which provides a high degree of control. Obviously, not everyone has the time or the expertise for this, but it has its advantages too. From: Macvisionaries on behalf of Eric Oyen Reply-To: Macvisionaries Date: Sunday, November 17, 2019 at 11:58 To:

Re: Is there anybody out there?

2019-11-17 Thread CHUCK REICHEL
HI Same thing has been happening to me for the past 2 months or so. Its very intermittent though. Hard to pinned down what happened in the recent past? Chuck "God does not play dice with the universe" "Albert Einstein’ On Nov 17, 2019, at 11:58 AM, Eric Oyen wrote: > I may have to switch to a

Re: Is there anybody out there?

2019-11-17 Thread Dave Carlson
I use Yahoo mail, and it’s the same for me. They go to my bulk folder on the Mac. But I set up a smart folder for all unread messages, and I can browse through them along with others. Then occasionally I visit my bulk folder and move them all to my MacVisionaries folder. Not the best, but it

Re: Is there anybody out there?

2019-11-17 Thread Eric Oyen
I may have to switch to a different email provider because my mails from this list keep ending up in the spam folder on gmail.. I keep going in and marking it as “not spam” but google doesn’t seem to be getting the message. Btw, any suggestions on how to solve this would be greatly appreciated.

Re: Download PDF in Safari instead of Opening

2019-11-17 Thread Ronald van Rhijn
Hi If the save as option of the context menu doesn’t work, just open the linked pdf. Then when the pdf is opened in Safari, place the focus in the addressfield and push option+return. The pdf file is then saved to downloads. hth, Ronald > Op 17 nov. 2019, om 00:52 heeft Lorie McCloud het >

Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

2019-11-17 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Thank you Andrew, I just checked that and my messages settings on my iPhone. I already put my Mac away for the night, but will see if it prompts me to do anything in the morning. Thank you again Sent from Petrus's iPhone > On 17/11/2019, at 22:18, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries >

Re: macbook pro not pairing with smart beetle

2019-11-17 Thread 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
Has she paired it with her mac via Bluetooth in system preferences? Beetle’s got to be put into pairing mode and then she needs to go to bluetooth in system preferences. Once she can see Beetle in table of devices, she needs to interact with the cell that says Beetle where she will find pair

Re: Sonos Controller for Mac

2019-11-17 Thread 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
Angus, Yes, there’s a mac controller for Sonos, and you can download it from the support page of Sonos.com. Here’s the link to download it. Unfortunattely, with Mac controller it is not very accessible. Many buttons are not labelled although I have labelled them myself using vo+/ labelling

macbook pro not pairing with smart beetle

2019-11-17 Thread aussiebroadband.com.au
Hi list Michelle Stevens here, Am writing on behalf of a friend. she asked me the following question it is not working with usb or bluetooth. smartbeetle latest version macbook pro 4 5 years old. MacOS Catalina 10.15.1 software update any help much appreciated. Kind wishes Michelle

Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

2019-11-17 Thread 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
Petrus, You need to enable this feature on your iPhone in settings / Messages where you tick the box to allow your iPhone and mac to send and receive sms message to non-iPhone users. There may be a need to enter a code on your mac to tether the two devices so keep your Messages app on the mac

Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

2019-11-17 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Hi all, I suspect I’m missing a setting for my messages App on the Mac somewhere. I’ only seem to be getting iMessages and not regular Text messages. Even when I have my iPhone right next to my Mac. I thought this was normal, but just noticed my wife receiving a Text message on her Mac from a