Re: How to drag and drop in Mail or iTunes

2020-02-10 Thread Kevin Gibbs
Tim, Unfortunately, a lot of my e-mail boxes, particularly my Gmail box, are Pop3. I’m really not comfortable changing that because we’re dealing with some 15 years of mail and I don’t know what I’d lose. I think I did experience something like you describe by moving items to the On My Mac th

Re: How to drag and drop in Mail or iTunes

2020-02-10 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi Kevin, That I can help you with. Let's say that you have an eMail account named "My iCloud". Within this account structure, you have created mailboxes for Apple Receipts, Summer Trips, Tax Info and Tech Help. So, in the Mailboxes table, you'd have the "My iCloud" InBox listed near the top

Re: How to drag and drop in Mail or iTunes

2020-02-10 Thread Kevin Gibbs
Hi Tim, I actually was rearranging boxes which had mistakenly gotten placed within other boxes when they should have been top level On My Mac mailboxes to begin with. It was a bit of a bitch having to do it visually by hand because I would otherwise keep dropping boxes within other boxes. I t

Re: How to drag and drop in Mail or iTunes

2020-02-10 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, Are you moving InBoxes, or other mailboxes? For InBoxes, when you drop the dragged item, it always drops below the item you are focused on. For other mailboxes, they are usually arranged alphabetically within the parent folder/box. So, unless you are moving it to a different folder, or c

Re: How to drag and drop in Mail or iTunes

2020-02-03 Thread Kevin Gibbs
Tim and Co. Sorry to bring this thread back up. Tim’s suggestion works great with one exception. I can move mailboxes around but I can’t distinguish how to move a mailbox so that it appears immediately below the point where I release the mouse. Invariably, I end up putting the moved mailbox

Re: How to drag and drop in Mail or iTunes

2019-09-19 Thread Barry Hadder
No you don’t. > On Sep 19, 2019, at 08:40, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Before you release the mouse with vo+command+shift+spacebar, you need to > route mouse cursor to vo cursor with vo+command+f5 again and then release the > mouse. > >> On 18 Sep 2019, at 19:55, Barry

Re: How to drag and drop in Mail or iTunes

2019-09-19 Thread Dave Carlson
Andrew, Yes, I make sure that the mouse cursor is also positioned at the same point as the VO cursor. Dave Carlson Musician, Engineer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any question

Re: How to drag and drop in Mail or iTunes

2019-09-19 Thread 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
Before you release the mouse with vo+command+shift+spacebar, you need to route mouse cursor to vo cursor with vo+command+f5 again and then release the mouse. > On 18 Sep 2019, at 19:55, Barry Hadder wrote: > > The best way to drag and drop is the following: > 1. Move vo to the object to be dra

Re: How to drag and drop in Mail or iTunes

2019-09-18 Thread Kevin Gibbs
Tim, Haven’t tried moving anything from one folder to another. But I figured it should work. Really appreciate it. K. > On Sep 19, 2019, at 12:13 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi Kevin, > > Yeah, it's certainly not perfect, but it works. Remember that it is > shift-

Re: How to drag and drop in Mail or iTunes

2019-09-18 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi Kevin, Yeah, it's certainly not perfect, but it works. Remember that it is shift-cmd-space if VO keys are locked. I use this in iTunes quite often when moving playlists into folders. I've also used it to drag things from the Finder into drop locations in other applications. Later... Ti

Re: How to drag and drop in Mail or iTunes

2019-09-18 Thread Kevin Gibbs
Tim and everybody, I really appreciate this discussion. I just tried locking VO with VO Semicolon and then using the up and down arrows to move to a given item in a playlist. I then pressed CMD and SPACE which activated a mouse down. Remember that VO was already locked. Also, you don’t hea

Re: How to drag and drop in Mail or iTunes

2019-09-18 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, to clarify, this key combination was the original combination for dragging and dropping when it was first introduced way back in Leopard or Snow Leopard. This method also required you to turn off cursor tracking and to do some careful mouse routing. The cursor tracking part of it is no lo

Re: How to drag and drop in Mail or iTunes

2019-09-18 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
Try using VO plus semi colon to lock the VO keys. That should help. Don't forget to unlock the keys again with the same command which is a toggle. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 9/18/2019 5:41

Re: How to drag and drop in Mail or iTunes

2019-09-18 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
Yes. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 9/18/2019 5:41 PM, Dave Carlson wrote: E.T. so the syntax VO-command-shift-space literally means holding down the Control, Option, Command, Shift keys and pr

Re: How to drag and drop in Mail or iTunes

2019-09-18 Thread Dave Carlson
E.T. so the syntax VO-command-shift-space literally means holding down the Control, Option, Command, Shift keys and pressing spacebar? Dave Carlson Musician, Engineer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries

Re: How to drag and drop in Mail or iTunes

2019-09-18 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
Dave, There are keystrokes that uses VO plus command. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 9/18/2019 4:41 PM, Dave Carlson wrote: Barry, I’m confused, and this is likely in not correctly interpreting

Re: How to drag and drop in Mail or iTunes

2019-09-18 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
I beg to differ. That is a click mouse. The other command I referenced HOLDS the mouse button down. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 9/18/2019 4:09 PM, John Panarese wrote:    Mouse down and mou

Re: How to drag and drop in Mail or iTunes

2019-09-18 Thread Dave Carlson
Barry, I’m confused, and this is likely in not correctly interpreting your layout of keypresses. When you write VO-command you are actually saying VO (Control+Option)? Is that correct? Dave Carlson Musician, Engineer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer -- The following information

RE: How to drag and drop in Mail or iTunes

2019-09-18 Thread Simon A Fogarty
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How to drag and drop in Mail or iTunes Uh, Simon? Pray tell, what is the other way? From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 9/18/2019 3:25 PM, Simon A Fogarty

Re: How to drag and drop in Mail or iTunes

2019-09-18 Thread Dave Carlson
Okay, I’ll give that a try. The instructions given earlier said VO-Command-Shift-Space, so the command key is not involved. Dave Carlson Engineer, Pioneer, Farfar, Woodworker, Musician, and Oregonian -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If

Re: How to drag and drop in Mail or iTunes

2019-09-18 Thread John Panarese
Mouse down and mouse up should be shift-VO-spacebar for each one. I just tried it here and it works. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Traine

Re: How to drag and drop in Mail or iTunes

2019-09-18 Thread David Chittenden
No, that is the force click command. Search for the mouse down and mouse up commands. Kind regards, David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA On 19 September 2019 08:34:29 Dave Carlson wrote: Agree, and I can’t get this method to work, either. Is it certain that the correct keystroke is VO+Command+Shif

Re: How to drag and drop in Mail or iTunes

2019-09-18 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
That is the sticky mouse down or mouse up command, not commonly used. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 9/18/2019 3:34 PM, Dave Carlson wrote: Agree, and I can’t get this method to work, either. Is

Re: How to drag and drop in Mail or iTunes

2019-09-18 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
*From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *On Behalf Of *Barry Hadder *Sent:* Thursday, 19 September 2019 6:55 AM *To:* 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries *Subject:* Re: How to drag and drop in Mail or iTunes The best way to drag and drop is the following: 1.  Move vo to the object to be

Re: How to drag and drop in Mail or iTunes

2019-09-18 Thread Dave Carlson
Agree, and I can’t get this method to work, either. Is it certain that the correct keystroke is VO+Command+Shift+Spacebar? A lot of fingers, and it’s not working for me. Dave Carlson Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician -- The following information is important for

RE: How to drag and drop in Mail or iTunes

2019-09-18 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Is it just me or is this way now more a pain than the older way? From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Barry Hadder Sent: Thursday, 19 September 2019 6:55 AM To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries Subject: Re: How to drag and drop in Mail or iTunes The best way to drag a

Re: How to drag and drop in Mail or iTunes

2019-09-18 Thread Barry Hadder
The best way to drag and drop is the following: 1. Move vo to the object to be dragged with vo-arrows (control-option-arrows). 2. rout the mouse to vo with vo-command-f5. 3. Lock the mouse with vo-command-shift-space 4. Move vo to the destination. 5. Release the mouse with vo-command-shift-spa

Re: How to drag and drop in Mail or iTunes

2019-09-18 Thread Dave Carlson
Yes, I’d also like to know the process, and why it never seems to work for me. I consistently get the “xxx cannot be dopped on yyy”. Dave Carlson Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries l

How to drag and drop in Mail or iTunes

2019-09-18 Thread Kevin Gibbs
Based on the fact that my search for how to select discontiguous files turned up outdated info, could someone remind me of the best way to drag and drop things in either Mail or iTunes? I'm sure my memories are out of date. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac