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Sent: Tuesday, 16 May 2017 1:45 AM
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Subject: Re: How to prefer IPv6 on the Mac OS X Sierra?
Sure, Simon. That's what most people do.
My requirements wouldn't be met by relying on a cell phone, though. I'm
Ouch. I just bought a ZTE Axon 7 but haven't tried the hot spot feature
yet. Bummer if it's IPv4 only!
Ah well, I am planning to go LineageOS on this thing eventually--when I
figure out all the pieces needed to get rooted, etc.
Interestingly, it seems ZTE actually provides signed LineageOS
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> This i
Indeed. You'd think a prepaid service would check your funding balance
before completing each and every call. At least, that's what I thought.
Silly me!
Scott Granados writes:
> That’s a pretty good reason not to use flow-route.:).
>
> If you had a prepaid account I wonder how it left your
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On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Monday, 15 May 2017 6:32 AM
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Subject: Re: How to prefer IPv6 on the Mac OS X Sierra?
Simon, I bet you’re using SIP and don’t know it.:). If you’re using VOLTE on
that phone that’s SIP
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> This is correct, Simon. It's a problem both both SIP gateway services, and
> also SIP hardware devices.
>
> Just in the past half year I've picked up a Snom D715 handse
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Friday, 12 May 2017 3:38 PM
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> Subject: Re: How to prefer IPv6 on the Mac OS X Sierra?
Yes but wouldn’t you know that several of their hotspots are V4 only including
the ZTE model I have, that’s going to have to be updated probably by me buying
a newer unit.:)
You’re absolutely right, IPv6 is absolutely a requirement for the internet of
things. We’re not going to get 50 billion
That’s a pretty good reason not to use flow-route.:).
If you had a prepaid account I wonder how it left your account running to
accumulate that much more usage. That definitely wouldn’t build confidence for
me either.
Thanks for the V6 pointer of fail2ban. Honestly, I never see any
A key driver of IPv6 migration is the simple fact that the world is
running out of--has already (in some cases) run out of IPv4 addresses.
This includes ARIN who ran out about two years ago.
Here's a few pages on this:
Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv4_address_exhaustion
ARIN:
I believe IPv6 is a fundamental requirement if Internet of Things is
going to succeed. I believe Nest devices use some kind of IPv6 routing
to phone home and thus provide on line management for end users.
By the way, in case anyone isn't aware of it, T-Mobile is fully IPv6
enabled and has been
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
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> I smell a
Hi, Scott:
Two items in this email ...
1.) fail2ban and IPv6 ... It appears they're working on on IPv6
support:
https://ctrl.blog/entry/fail2ban-ipv6
As of today, however, it's not yet there on Fedora supported
packages.
2.) Floroute is a good SIP
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> Sent: Friday, 12 May 2017 11:21 PM
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> Subject: Re: How to prefer IPv6 on the Mac OS X Sierra?
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> That seems to be the case. IF anything, SIP over IPv6 should be less
> complicated. No NAT for exampl
: Re: How to prefer IPv6 on the Mac OS X Sierra?
That seems to be the case. IF anything, SIP over IPv6 should be less
complicated. No NAT for example.
> On May 12, 2017, at 4:37 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
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> I've not been in a situation to use SIP but d
Well everything is standardized I mean IPv6 is well defined by RFC. What most
carriers are doing is deploying in a dual stack mode. Big parts of the network
are converted although your right there’s a lot to go. All your major backbone
providers have been exchanging V6 for years now, the
I think the security implementation will take a while to get used to,
especially when you have consumers who may not understand how it fully works
completely.
Regardless of what we are called, (System administrator, network administrator,
Network engineer), we all have our duties, which are, to
You make a good point. There’s a lot of security features included now.
I do think you’re right, I think some of it is fear or lack of
understanding. I always thought Hurricane Electric offering their tunnel
broker service ws a brilliant idea especially combined with the online
Well I certainly hope that providers will start to support IPV6, As it would
make security that much better in the long run.
My point for even writing, or replying, was just the state for my clients, they
prefer IPV4, Meanwhile they don't realize the benefits of the new IP
implementation, So I
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> I smell a business opportunity. Some googling seems ti indicate the provider
> you listed and someone called fl
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Sent: Friday, 12 May 2017 3:38 PM
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Subject: Re: How to prefer IPv6 on the Mac OS X Sierra?
I smell a business opportunity. Some googling seems ti indicate the provider
you listed
I smell a business opportunity. Some googling seems ti indicate the provider
you listed and someone called flowroute. THere’s tons of documentation on the
advantages of SIP over IPv6 and lots of people convincing you to do it,
especially on the enterprise side but no providers offering the
Scott:
Just a quick point to your email ...
I believe fail2ban only works with IPv4.
Personally, if I could disable listening for incoming SIP on Ipv4, I'd
do so in a heartbeat. But for reasons I don't understand, the world of
SIP to PSTN gateways is entirely IPv4. Therefore, I have no choice
Ok, few points here.
First, as a network engineer, everyone I work with and know prefers V6 by a
long shot. The finding of individual addresses is no harder on V6 than V4, you
can display your Mac table the same way. The routers usually have separate V4
and V6 RIBS as well so your V4 doesn’t
Good day list,
Most System Admin's, myself included, prefer IPV4 because it's a lot of what
most provider's support, plus tracking down machine's that utilize IPV4 tends
to be less stress on us.
As far as IPV6 masks, they come in the form of letter:number:lettter:number, so
banning them can be
btain addresses automatically
> >>>> And so far no issues.
> >>>>
> >>>> If only my service provider did IP v 6 I'd switch ip v4 off, apart from
> >>>> my work place I don't really need it
> >>>>
> >&g
made sure my servers had IP v6
>>>> switched on and DHCP and DNS set to obtain addresses automatically
>>>> And so far no issues.
>>>>
>>>> If only my service provider did IP v 6 I'd switch ip v4 off, apart from
>>>> my work place I don't rea
than through one to the rest it would be much
easier.
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Sent: Sunday, 7 May 2017 5:03 AM
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Subject: Re: How to prefer IPv6 on the Mac OS X Sierra?
So, Simon
y, 6 May 2017 2:17 AM
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> Congrats, Simon! Big job, huh?
>
> Yes, the Apple IPv6 implementation is quite good, and should really be
> uneventful when deployed. I wouldn't turn off 4 f
g it on.
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Sent: Saturday, 6 May 2017 11:51 AM
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Subject: Re: How to prefer IPv6 on the Mac OS X Sierra?
My ISP doesn’t natively support it either. I’m using 6 to 4 tunneling to get to
the IPv6 network
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> Well, if you’re service provider isn’t doing IPv6 how are you getting IPv
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On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Friday, 5 May 2017 12:09 AM
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Subject: Re: How to prefer IPv6 on the Mac OS X Sierra?
Well, if you’re service provider isn’t doing IPv6 how are you getting IPv6
connectivity? Are you tunneling through a tunnel broker like hurricane
tried it completely.
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Congrats, Simon! Big job, huh?
Yes
, apart from my
>> work place I don't really need it
>>
>> And nothing appears to be different so bring it on.
>>
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> Is IPv6 worth the bother? Well, that depends on what you do, of course.
&
Hey folks,
Going back a step to IP V6 connectivity,
I've switched my machines at home to IP v6 using I think it was 6n4 however
If I disable IP v4 I can't surf the net any longer
The cause I believe is due to the ISP not yet supporting IP v6
Can anyone advise if there is a way to get my
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>> I have thought I might change the home network to IP V6 just to have a play
>> but need to ensure that RDP and other related services stay active on my
>> servers so I don't go losing acess and connectivity.
>>
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Subject: Re: How to prefer IPv6 on the Mac OS X Sierra?
Is IPv6 worth the bother? Well, that depends on what you do, of course.
If all you do is browse the web and pick up email somewhere, the answer is
probably no.
If your home systems do voip or host any services, including just listening
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Chavez
> Sent: Thursday, 27 April 2017 11:20 PM
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> Subject: Re: How to prefer IPv6 on the Mac OS X Sierra?
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> Good day,
> As I'm a S
Scott:
I have had the same experience with applications. Sometimes it's a
matter of configuration, but usually certain apps just aren't 6 friendly
for whatever reason.
When I first got native 6 I tried a little experiment and turned off 4
entirely just to see whether I could do what I do
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> Subject: Re: How to prefer IPv6 on the Mac OS X Sierra?
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> Good day,
> As I'm a System Admin, I, too, prefer IPV6.
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Subject: Re: How to prefer IPv6 on the Mac OS X Sierra?
Good day,
As I'm a System Admin, I, too, prefer IPV6.
However, IPV6 depends on the ISP and the IP pool being pulled from.
Most ISP's still use IPV4 for backwards compatibility for older devices, though
most modem'/router combo's
That’s what it seems, the interesting problem is getting my applications to use
V6.
I’ve seen it work a little but not consistently. I’m thinking Netgear’s
implementation may have issues but I’ll keep noodling around with it. I’m able
to pass data over the link just name resolution seems odd
Scott:
You should definitely be routable in a Tunnel Broker 6to4. I used one
for years before I finally got native 6. The only times it broke for me
occured when I lost my underlying, ISP delegated 4 address and had to
re-register the tunnel end point.
You should be able to do anything you
I think I got it although I’m not quite sure why.;). I think part of my issue
is I’m working with a 6 to 4 tunnel in stead of a 6 in 4 tunnel which uses the
assigned public routable blocks from HE. This gives me some sort of 2002
address but does seem to be routable, I trace routed and it went
Scott:
Try specifying Google's IPv6 resolvers:
2001:4860:4860::
2001:4860:4860::8844
Scott Granados writes:
> Ok, so I put 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 in place. Still behaving the same. I may
> try to delete the servers (my router and another IPV6 address) from the local
> resolver. I can
Ok, so I put 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 in place. Still behaving the same. I may try
to delete the servers (my router and another IPV6 address) from the local
resolver. I can resolve the v6 names though which is odd, that seems to work
fine.
I can also ping them using ping6.
> On Apr 27, 2017, at
Yes, first look at DNS. Perhaps use Googles DNS servers. I highly distrust
default DHCP servers provided by Home use Internet service providers. I
have seen significant issues with them resolving things incorrectly to try
to make you send your traffic in places it shouldn't go.
On Thu, Apr 27,
Well I have end to end ping by IP resolution so I can for example ping the IPV6
addresses at google. SO routing is working. I have a 6 to 4 tunnel up with
Hurricane Electric and it appears that Things are good other than the protocol
selection. It could be DNS related I suppose but I can
Good day,
As I'm a System Admin, I, too, prefer IPV6.
However, IPV6 depends on the ISP and the IP pool being pulled from.
Most ISP's still use IPV4 for backwards compatibility for older devices, though
most modem'/router combo's employe both IPV4 and IPV6 support, but this IPV6
support usually
Hi, so I’ve been reading that IPv6 connections should be preferred under OS X
Sierra but it doesn’t appear that’s happening. If I test my IPv6 connection I
get a valid IPv4 and IPV6 address, It shows I’m using a 6 to 4 tunnel, ping6
and a manual nslookup show a valid record returned when
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