THanks for sharing the references, I must go read.
Btw, VZ had at one time a VOIP service called Voice WIng or something wing and
it did disappear apparently a few years ago and this was before they rolled out
their Fios service. I would agree this is a really expensive and very
entertaining gam
take a swing at RIM.
Bryan
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Amassing a large portfolio of patents is a common protection method for
large companies. Patent anything plausible and add them to your quiver
in case somebody sues you. The intent isn't competitive advantage by
exploiting those discoveries in your own products, but rather as a path
to mutually
Simon,
It does not matter whether Nokia is responsible for most of the technology or
not. Many manufacturers are using GSM and I am sure legally. Not being a patent
lawyer, there are either royalties paid or fair use rights involved. I would
submit that stealing is a rather strong term because
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Nokia patents
I know we love our iPhones here,
I agree with Scot - this will die, but I think it will die in a secret
office after an expencive meal plus drinks and will involve a large
amount of notes - after all, that's what nokia's after really.
On 10/05/2010, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> Agreed. :)
> On May 9, 2010, at 7:34 PM, Scott Howell wr
Agreed. :)
On May 9, 2010, at 7:34 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
> We can agree on the fact that this is just how big business like to entertain
> themselves, but what I am saying is that Nokia started the battle.
> Either way, it'll be interesting to see if it actually goes anywhere or
> quietly dies
Never will happen. Apple would never allow themselves to be run off do to
Nokia's lawsuit.
On May 9, 2010, at 6:40 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> It's sad but let's hope that apple does not have to redoo the iphone or get
> rid of it all together. We'll see.
>
> Take care to all.
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You received
We can agree on the fact that this is just how big business like to entertain
themselves, but what I am saying is that Nokia started the battle.
Either way, it'll be interesting to see if it actually goes anywhere or quietly
dies in a corner.
On May 9, 2010, at 6:33 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>
It's sad but let's hope that apple does not have to redoo the iphone or get rid
of it all together. We'll see.
Take care to all.
On May 9, 2010, at 3:33 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> No,
>
> They could just be annoyed at apples lawsuit. That threatened angle just
> don't jive here. Their both
No,
They could just be annoyed at apples lawsuit. That threatened angle just don't
jive here. Their both have sued each other. So are they both threatened?
lol. I think this is just how big business get back at each other. It is a
legal shoving match. No more, no less, in my opinion. We
So, if Nokia is not feeling threaten, then why bother? There is a motivating
reason because litigation in any form will cost money and if both sides really
dig in their heels, it could end up costing both sides a considerable chunk of
change. It all goes back to return on investment (ROI). There
>>> few years ago. Nokia and Apple will maneuver for a while, they'll come to
>>> some agreement that I won't sue you for this patent if you don't sue me for
>>> that one, and then they'll both try to take a swing at RIM.
>>>
>>>
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>> Bryan
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> and that is the point. Nokia's suffering so what do they do, hit the company
then they'll both try to take a swing at RIM.
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> Bryan
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and that is the point. Nokia's suffering so wha
and that is the point. Nokia's suffering so what do they do, hit the company
that potentially has the most money.
On 9 May 2010, at 11:49, Kaare Dehard wrote:
> sounds to me like they are timing this right, results are down for Nokia
> right now and they're probably trying to do this to cut som
sounds to me like they are timing this right, results are down for Nokia right
now and they're probably trying to do this to cut some losses witha fat
lisencing contract.
On 2010-05-08, at 11:20 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> agreed. I do wonder what will come out of it though? I hoep nokia looses b
Bryan,
You may be right, but keep in mind that Apple didn't start the contest, the
good folks at Nokia started and Apple is just positioning themselves. If Apple
dropped their claim, I doubt Nokia would do the same. It is very apparent that
Nokia has a thing for Apple at the minute and not the
That is true and this has been a pissing contest between Nokia and APple for
some time now. It probably will end up coming down to who has the largest
bladder. Nokia probably should just sue everyone in this case since it's all
about the use of GSM.
On May 8, 2010, at 7:14 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose w
Why do you hope Nokia looses? Just curious.
On May 8, 2010, at 11:20 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> agreed. I do wonder what will come out of it though? I hoep nokia looses big
> time
> On May 8, 2010, at 4:14 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
>
>> Yet another boring lawsuit. I really think this type of
Poeple are very picky about there pattents. I realise the good of patents but
one misuse and you are inb ig trouble.
S
On May 8, 2010, at 4:58 PM, marie Howarth wrote:
> there's more patent law suits than I care to think about.
>
> On 9 May 2010, at 00:14, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
>
>> Yet anot
agreed. I do wonder what will come out of it though? I hoep nokia looses big
time
On May 8, 2010, at 4:14 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
> Yet another boring lawsuit. I really think this type of thing is just
> to see who can score browny points against another company; it's not
> really in the int
The article says
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During the last two decades, Nokia has invested approximately EUR 40 billion
in research and development and built one of the wireless industry's
strongest and broadest IPR portfolios, with over 11,000 patent families.
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Not 11,000 patents, but 11,000 patent
there's more patent law suits than I care to think about.
On 9 May 2010, at 00:14, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
> Yet another boring lawsuit. I really think this type of thing is just
> to see who can score browny points against another company; it's not
> really in the interest of consumers, despite
Yet another boring lawsuit. I really think this type of thing is just
to see who can score browny points against another company; it's not
really in the interest of consumers, despite what nokia will tell you.
On 08/05/2010, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> Subject: NOKIA - Nokia sues Apple in Wisconsin fo
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