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The Blitab has won lots of awards, I contacted them about being a tester and to pre-order back in February. I have sent several e-mails since, but have heard nothing. Peggy and Dixie Marie Sent from my iPhone On Jul 28, 2017, at 7:01 AM, Alex Hall wrote: The BliTab is the

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The BliTab is the most exciting technology in my book. Unlike the Kanute, it’s full page can refresh instantly, and it’s very small. Unlike the similarly priced Orbit, it shows a lot of cells, not just 20. Unfortunately, it’s been in the works for a long time, but the company seems mum on

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I am waiting for the Blitab to come out. It is supposed to display a full page of Braille and will also do graphics. The cost for the tablet is $500.00. Peggy and Dixie Marie Sent from my iPhone On Jul 26, 2017, at 5:29 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: The orbit reader is coming

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Kawal, glad to hear this. A lot of us are very skeptical as to whether it’s coming out or not at all so you working on the documentation is a good indicator that things are moving along. > On Jul 26, 2017, at 5:29 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > > The orbit reader is coming

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The orbit reader is coming out as I have been told that a new version has been finalised and the instructions for the reader have been put in to braille as my department did these instructions a couple of weeks ago. I work in the Transcription department at RNIB, (Royal National Institute of

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Well, I know somebody in the US who has one. She got it at one of the blindness summer conventions. They didn't have very many of them. But she definitely has one. I have not seen it yet. Not in person anyway. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 26, 2017, at 9:51 AM, Anders Holmberg

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Hi! There has been so much talk on other lists about the Orbit reader that it will come this or that month and it hasn’t come out yet. I really doubt its ever going to be released. But we’ll see. /A > 25 juli 2017 kl. 23:05 skrev Kliphton Miller : > > I doubt that the

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I've been looking into the Orbit Reader. The main things to keep in mind are that it's bulky, and it lacks cursor keys. Neither of these is a deal breaker, especially for the price, but people should keep them in mind. According to its webpage, it's a good deal larger than Refreshabraille,

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es@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin > Sent: Wednesday, 26 July 2017 1:12 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:

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this was a very informative and interesting post. Thanks as always, David. Cheers, Donna > On Jul 25, 2017, at 10:16 PM, David Chittenden wrote: > > Ok, there are currently four different braille display technologies being > developed. > > The Bristol Braille technology

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Thanks for this! What a post. I've seen promos for orbit and the new aph graphics tool. I think I'll take one of the graphic tablets and one of the multi line book reading displays thanks. Sign me up. :-D Best, Erik On July 25, 2017 11:16:23 PM David Chittenden

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rate it highly, NVDA is one I really need to spend more time working with it. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin Sent: Wednesday, 26 July 2017 1:12 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Refreshable Braille devices

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Ok, there are currently four different braille display technologies being developed. The Bristol Braille technology is the tech which is closest to market. It is the Orbit 20 cell Bluetooth braille display. It is a little noisy and locks the braille dots into place. The tech takes between half

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Well, let's see if that whenever comes to market and what kind of firmware is with it, and what his capabilities are at Cetera. Lots of slippage between initial design and hype and what actually hits the market. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 25, 2017, at 7:37 PM, Scott Granados

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Kawal, the point of the orbit is it doesn’t need the maintenance that other displays need. It’s supposed to be a lot more rugged and the cells not need the same level of repair or maintenance. That’s what I’ve read anyway. > On Jul 25, 2017, at 5:17 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu

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In the us it’s going to be about $495 I believe. The Massachusetts Institute of Technology has a team the has developed a braille display that should come in around $200 US or 225 pounds. > On Jul 25, 2017, at 5:00 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > > The orbit reader is

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Kawal, The test of time will determine what happens here. Right now the Orbit's track record is unknown. You know the saying "cheap becomes expensive". From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our

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When i went to Sight village last week I asked about the orbit reader and it wasn't there. I just know that RNIB sold that device after getting some orders in and it went like hot cakes. Personally, I stick to my Focus Braille 14 as I'd rather have an quality item as I don't even know what

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The orbit reader is out now. There's a demonstration of Amazon Kindle tablet braille using that reader. It's loud. It's annoying. It's a great option if you can't afford anything else, based on that demo, every time the line changes you get theannoying sound. It would really drive me crazy.

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I doubt that the expensive ones will go away. Yes the orbit gives a cheaper option, but it has been rumored to have a lot of bugs, it only connects to 1 device at a time, and as long as state agencies are paying for there clients to have them, they will continue to be around. JMO > On Jul 25,

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The orbit reader is coming and it's going to cost £500 (nort sure what that is in dollars) but it's a whole lot cheaper. When that comes out on the market, braille displays, the expensive ones may be finished! Kawal. > On 24 Jul 2017, at 17:02, E.T. wrote: > >

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Baum USA is the seller. On 7/25/17, Anders Holmberg wrote: > Hi! > I chime in here and aggree with Mary. > The varioUltra is one of the best displays out there in my opinion. > I have never had so good support from any blindness related manufaturer as > from Baum. > They

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Hi! I chime in here and aggree with Mary. The varioUltra is one of the best displays out there in my opinion. I have never had so good support from any blindness related manufaturer as from Baum. They are really aware of theire customers. Maybe handytech can compair to them but not many others.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin > Sent: Tuesday, 25 July 2017 4:48 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <

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July 2017 4:48 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Refreshable Braille devices? Hi Les, My only point about the Mac is that even without buying a top of the line model, it is much more expensive than most PCs. But we buy them, because we like them. Same thing applies here. Cheers

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@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Refreshable Braille devices? And the Mac is different how? :) Just saying. I agree that these devices are expensive, but so is the Mac, and most of us replace our Macs every five years or so, or even less. Cheers, Donna On Jul 24, 2017, at 10:53 AM, Les Kriegler <krie

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products but to me they aren’t as nice to use. But they would do the job and are cheaper. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Tuesday, 25 July 2017 3:51 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Refreshable Braille

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o:doniado...@me.com> *Sent: *Monday, July 24, 2017 12:19 PM *To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> *Subject: *Re: Refreshable Braille devices? I agree they are expensive, but ET's points about the size of the market are good ones. What you get for you

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ou wish to purchase. I’m >>> just concerned about the price of braille notetakers, that’s all. >>> >>> >>> >>> Les >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for >>>

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?LinkId=550986> for >> Windows 10 >> >> >> >> *From: *Donna Goodin <mailto:doniado...@me.com> >> *Sent: *Monday, July 24, 2017 12:19 PM >> *To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> *Subje

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M *To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> *Subject: *Re: Refreshable Braille devices? I agree they are expensive, but ET's points about the size of the market are good ones. What you get for your money is the option to have braille, which for some of us is ver

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Becky, If you're in the U.S., contact your state rehab/blindness organization. They will probably tie the purchase to education or employment, and may also exert control over which device they will purchase for you, but it's a start. Cheers, Donna > On Jul 24, 2017, at 11:40 AM, Rebecca Sabo

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’s all. > > Les > > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 > > From: Donna Goodin <mailto:doniado...@me.com> > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 12:19 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>

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Hi all Is there a program or grant program out there to buy a braille display I really would like one? Becky Sent from my iPhone On Jul 24, 2017, at 10:07 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: I've used both the Ultra and the Edge, and though of course this is just my opinion, I think

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: Monday, July 24, 2017 12:19 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Refreshable Braille devices? I agree they are expensive, but ET's points about the size of the market are good ones.  What you get for your money is the option to have braille, which for some of us is very important

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Mary, Thanks for talking about the vary. this sounds like something I’d like myself! Cait > On Jul 24, 2017, at 11:53 AM, Les Kriegler wrote: > > Understood. The problem I have with all these companies as you buy want his > devices and you spend thousands of dollars and

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I agree they are expensive, but ET's points about the size of the market are good ones. What you get for your money is the option to have braille, which for some of us is very important. Cheers, Donna > On Jul 24, 2017, at 10:39 AM, Les Kriegler wrote: > > Hi Mary, >

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Good luck! Hope it doesn't take too long. Cheers, Donna > On Jul 24, 2017, at 10:35 AM, E.T. wrote: > > Thanks, its bookmarked and the piggy bank is instructed to start collecting > funds. No telling how long it will take. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . > "God for

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I've used both the Ultra and the Edge, and though of course this is just my opinion, I think the Ultra is a far superior device. It's smaller, lighter, much more solidly built, and has much better functionality. I like HIMS as a company, but I think they kind of dropped the ball with the

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It makes perfect sense. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 7/24/2017 8:53 AM, Les

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And the Mac is different how? :) Just saying. I agree that these devices are expensive, but so is the Mac, and most of us replace our Macs every five years or so, or even less. Cheers, Donna > On Jul 24, 2017, at 10:53 AM, Les Kriegler wrote: > > Understood. The

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Did not understand that but well, if a user is dependent on braille, that user will not feel a solidly-made braille display to be overpriced. Understand that concept? But here is the thing. How large a market do braille displays have? I dare say if if you can produce fantastic displays and

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What I really don't understand his companies like human where in the hymns that are basically selling the same device and competing for business in a small market. Now that really doesn't make any sense. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 24, 2017, at 11:51 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

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Understood. The problem I have with all these companies as you buy want his devices and you spend thousands of dollars and then for five years later something else comes out and you have to spend the same amount again. It just doesn't make a lot of sense. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 24,

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Hi Les, I agree that devices like the altar are very expensive. But, based on what the original poster said she wanted, it sounds like that device would meet her needs. Perhaps the Edgewood as well. I know it's less expensive. I am just not that familiar with its capabilities in terms of

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And iPhone with the braille display would be much less expensive than the blandest waited well no takers. However, I understand people like them, I just think they are way too costly. Just one person's opinion. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 24, 2017, at 11:43 AM, E.T.

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Les, Overpriced compared to? Is there a mainstream solution especially for the deafblind? From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl

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Hi Mary, In my opinion, all the no takers including the ultra or overpriced. The ultra the last time I checked for the 40 so my will cost her about $4000. Not worth it in my opinion for what you get. Anybody who buys a blind is no taking device is really paying premium for it. Sent from my

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Thanks, its bookmarked and the piggy bank is instructed to start collecting funds. No telling how long it will take. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off

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Baum. Their website is at: http://www.baumusa.com Cheers, Donna > On Jul 24, 2017, at 9:56 AM, E.T. wrote: > > Who is the seller for this product in the states? > > From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . > "God for you is where you sweep away all the

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Who is the seller for this product in the states? From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

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I second this recommendation. If you are up for the learning curve, the VarioUltra is an excellent device. Cheers, Donna > On Jul 24, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Mary Otten wrote: > > If you don't want the full blown capability of a very expensive blindness > note taker, such as the

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If you don't want the full blown capability of a very expensive blindness note taker, such as the new Polaris, you might consider the varrio ultra. That has the ability to transfer files with a USB stick. And it also has note taking capability. It has an excellent warranty. Some people also

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Hi, Personally, I love any of the Hims devices, so these are things like the new polaris and the U2, braille sense line of products. The braille is nice and crisp, and the devices themselves are just very well made. I can’t speak about anything made by humanware except the brilliant, but

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I think you need to put down a few more requirements then will they work with a Macintosh. Most of the cost of a braille display is still the braille output cells and the relative obscurity of the devices themselves. If you are looking for a Braille display that you can also take notes with