Re: Silent "T" in Yosemite

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Bill,

This is a well-known bug in Yosemite. Just switch to a different voice for a 
while and it should go away. It can happen with any letter, by the way.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 18 Feb 2016, at 02:07, Bill Gallik  wrote:
> 
> Good Evening to All on the Macvionaries List
> 
> I’m not at all certain what changes I may have made, but when typing on my 
> Mac Mini neither the lower nor upper case “T” is spoken.  I’m certain this is 
> a relatively recent development because I’m sure I’d have noticed it much 
> earlier than just last week.
> 
> Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
> 
> Kindly “Thank You” to anyone offering suggestions!
> * * * * * * * * *
> Bill Gallik
> wfgal...@icloud.com
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Re: Record your iPad or iPhone screen

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

Not that this is only for newish iOS devices, not the ones using the 
32-pin USB cable. I still have an iPhone 4s I use for testing and it's a 
big pain to record the screen and audio from there but it is possible 
with a bunch of external hardware.


CB

On 2/17/16 7:23 PM, Daniela Rubio wrote:

Hi!

Just go to make ew video, then, before pressing start recording, go to the pup 
up to select the input devices. And in your Camera and microphone, select your 
iPad or iPhone, which most be connected.
.
Then, press the button to record at maximum volume, as now, voiceOver will go 
out from your headset if it it is connected to your mac, or through your mac 
speakers. In that way, you can control what you are doing, and the sound of 
VoiceOver, music or anything the comes from your iOs device, will also be 
recorded.

Pros the button to start recording, do what ever you wish in your iOS device 
and then stop it.

This was quick, but I hope it helps.

Best

Daniela Rubio


El 18 feb 2016, a las 12:55 a.m., Jeff Berwick  
escribió:

Hi all,

Several months ago, there was a thread making the rounds on how to record your 
iPad or iPhone screen using Quicktime.  For the life of me, I can't find this 
by Googling.  Does anybody have the thread or the steps necessary to do so?

Tia,
Jeff

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Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

Examples abound in Macalope articles where he skewers anti-Apple 
pundits. Here is a recent example:


You are like a supernova of exploding wrongness. You are a danger to 
nearby solar systems.


CB

On 2/17/16 9:44 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:

here is an alternative: if you are going to cuss (or are tempted to), start 
quoting william shakespear. He had some nice insults that were artistically 
done and they don't lead to the use of profanity. :)

-eric

On Feb 17, 2016, at 7:06 PM, M. Taylor wrote:


Terje,

Your post to this list, using profanity, is unacceptable.  Do not, under any 
circumstances, use profane language when posting to this group.

Thank you,

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Terje Strømberg
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 1:26 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Cc: Terje Strømberg
Subject: Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

Yeah, very strange. I am fascinated about how the fuck can this be possible? 
Turned off my voice over. Some kind of script maybe. To me it is surprising and 
interesting how it can be done, but most of all i don’t want to excperience it 
again. Very bad.

Take care

17. feb. 2016 kl. 22:04 skrev Marie Lyons :

I can’t seem to correct it. I went in and unchecked checkboxes but I still have 
3 voices. I guess what I’m needing is step by step instruction. I have a call 
in to accessibility support for follow-up on the spam issue.. Perhaps he can 
help me solve this. This didn’t seem to be a place to save changes.

Marie

On Feb 17, 2016, at 4:12 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:

In VoiceOver utility, under speech category, set all your voices to Alex and 
Alex to be your default voice.  It seems as if somehow the announcements are 
made by a different voice rather than default.

hope this helps.

Andrew

On 16 Feb 2016, at 23:10, Marie Lyons  wrote:

V/O F8 doesn’t do anything on my computer. Well since then I wound up with 3 
different voices. Alex reads the message but Victoria and Fred seem to make the 
announcements.  I don’t like this.  I have no idea why I can’t fix it.

Marie Lyons

On Feb 15, 2016, at 9:18 PM, CJ Daniel  wrote:

Marie,

Press VO-F8 to launch the VO Utility.  VO-Shift-DownArrow on the Category table.  Arrow 
to the Speech option.  VO-Shift-UpArrow to stop interacting & move right to the 
voice options.  Press VO-SpaceBar to select it. Down Arrow to the Configure option.  
Pick any other voice than Alex, Bruce, or Fred.  Wait for it to download & then 
select it.  That’ll do it.

You see there’s an ass on the list, who has figured out a string of text that, 
when inserted into the subject line of an email, causes Alex to shut down.  
It’s real cute.  I hope he reaps what he’s sown.

Hope this helps,

CJ



On Feb 15, 2016, at 6:19 PM, Marie Lyons  wrote:

My v/o keeps shutting down.  What can I do to fix it?

Marie Lyons. I had called disability support and they couldn’t
figure it out.  Help greatly appreciated

Marie Lyons

On Feb 14, 2016, at 10:55 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Everyone,

I became aware of the offensive emails and the deliberate string
to shut down the Alex screen reader this morning.

At that time, I looked at the email address of the sender and
recognized it as one that I had just banned, last night, from the
V iPhone list, for posting offensive language.

For whatever reason, when I attempted to locate her/his address in
the members list of this group, I could not find it.  Yet, the
posts continued to come to the list.

I was away from my computer for most of the day but, upon
returning home about an hour or so ago, I managed to locate the
user and first, change his/her posting privileges and then remove him from the 
list.

To be quite honest, the account I located was unlike any I've seen
in any groups.  So, it is possible, more messages will come
through but I think I located the right address.  Only time will tell.

Please know that I, on behalf of Cara, am paying close attention
and am doing all I can to rid the list of such nuisances.

For the record, the malicious string shut down my speech
synthesizer, as well.  Very, very annoying.  Like others in this
groups, I had to use my Windows computer with a non-mac screen
reader to discover the source of the problem.

Please know that we are in this together and, together, we'll get
through it.

Mark


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Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

Just have voiceover read a string with 100 characters all e followed by r to 
get it to crash. I look at the pending messages, and also tried on my own with 
one that was only in the text of the email message.  With server crashed with 
that draft and I deleted the truck.


Jonathan Cohn 

> On Feb 17, 2016, at 9:40 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> Ok, I was under the impression that the unopened messages had those strings 
> of characters attached to them, and that was what caused them.  That was what 
> started it on my end anyhow.
>   The first one I got had one, and I thought voiceover was studdring when it 
> crashed, but it was simply trying to read whatever that mess was in the first 
> place.
>> On Feb 17, 2016, at 4:23 AM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  wrote:
>> 
>> okay, so here goes, if you look at the mails that is eventually
>> shooting VO down, there is no strange letters in the subject, we are 4
>> different persons who is trying to fix this into a update so it don't
>> happen again, but is hard too duplicate.
>> Could someone be so kind as to send me a private email with the letters?
>> Stopping it from happening is easy enough, but making it crash is hard,
>> 
>>> On 2/17/16, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>>> In VoiceOver utility, under speech category, set all your voices to Alex and
>>> Alex to be your default voice.  It seems as if somehow the announcements are
>>> made by a different voice rather than default.
>>> 
>>> hope this helps.
>>> 
>>> Andrew
 On 16 Feb 2016, at 23:10, Marie Lyons  wrote:
 
 V/O F8 doesn’t do anything on my computer. Well since then I wound up with
 3 different voices. Alex reads the message but Victoria and Fred seem to
 make the announcements.  I don’t like this.  I have no idea why I can’t
 fix it.
 
 Marie Lyons
> On Feb 15, 2016, at 9:18 PM, CJ Daniel  > wrote:
> 
> Marie,
> 
> Press VO-F8 to launch the VO Utility.  VO-Shift-DownArrow on the Category
> table.  Arrow to the Speech option.  VO-Shift-UpArrow to stop interacting
> & move right to the voice options.  Press VO-SpaceBar to select it. Down
> Arrow to the Configure option.  Pick any other voice than Alex, Bruce, or
> Fred.  Wait for it to download & then select it.  That’ll do it.
> 
> You see there’s an ass on the list, who has figured out a string of text
> that, when inserted into the subject line of an email, causes Alex to
> shut down.  It’s real cute.  I hope he reaps what he’s sown.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> CJ
> 
> 
>> On Feb 15, 2016, at 6:19 PM, Marie Lyons  wrote:
>> 
>> My v/o keeps shutting down.  What can I do to fix it?
>> 
>> Marie Lyons. I had called disability support and they couldn’t figure it
>> out.  Help greatly appreciated
>> 
>> Marie Lyons
>>> On Feb 14, 2016, at 10:55 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> I became aware of the offensive emails and the deliberate string to
>>> shut
>>> down the Alex screen reader this morning.
>>> 
>>> At that time, I looked at the email address of the sender and
>>> recognized it
>>> as one that I had just banned, last night, from the V iPhone list, for
>>> posting offensive language.
>>> 
>>> For whatever reason, when I attempted to locate her/his address in the
>>> members list of this group, I could not find it.  Yet, the posts
>>> continued
>>> to come to the list.
>>> 
>>> I was away from my computer for most of the day but, upon returning
>>> home
>>> about an hour or so ago, I managed to locate the user and first,
>>> change
>>> his/her posting privileges and then remove him from the list.
>>> 
>>> To be quite honest, the account I located was unlike any I've seen in
>>> any
>>> groups.  So, it is possible, more messages will come through but I
>>> think I
>>> located the right address.  Only time will tell.
>>> 
>>> Please know that I, on behalf of Cara, am paying close attention and
>>> am
>>> doing all I can to rid the list of such nuisances.
>>> 
>>> For the record, the malicious string shut down my speech synthesizer,
>>> as
>>> well.  Very, very annoying.  Like others in this groups, I had to use
>>> my
>>> Windows computer with a non-mac screen reader to discover the source of
>>> the
>>> problem.
>>> 
>>> Please know that we are in this together and, together, we'll get
>>> through
>>> it.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
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bootcamp question

[don bishop]

Hi all, 
I purchased my mac with maverick a couple years back. In the carton is a copy 
of bootcamp. I suspect it's badly outdated by now, I'm now running el capitan. 
Where would I go to get a current vwithsion of bootcamp?


Thanks,  

Don

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Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

[Eric Oyen]

here is an alternative: if you are going to cuss (or are tempted to), start 
quoting william shakespear. He had some nice insults that were artistically 
done and they don't lead to the use of profanity. :)

-eric

On Feb 17, 2016, at 7:06 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

> Terje,
> 
> Your post to this list, using profanity, is unacceptable.  Do not, under any 
> circumstances, use profane language when posting to this group.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Terje Strømberg
> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 1:26 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Cc: Terje Strømberg
> Subject: Re: To The List About The Recent Spam
> 
> Yeah, very strange. I am fascinated about how the fuck can this be possible? 
> Turned off my voice over. Some kind of script maybe. To me it is surprising 
> and interesting how it can be done, but most of all i don’t want to 
> excperience it again. Very bad.
> 
> Take care
> 
> 17. feb. 2016 kl. 22:04 skrev Marie Lyons :
> 
> I can’t seem to correct it. I went in and unchecked checkboxes but I still 
> have 3 voices. I guess what I’m needing is step by step instruction. I have a 
> call in to accessibility support for follow-up on the spam issue.. Perhaps he 
> can help me solve this. This didn’t seem to be a place to save changes.
> 
> Marie
>> On Feb 17, 2016, at 4:12 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>> 
>> In VoiceOver utility, under speech category, set all your voices to Alex and 
>> Alex to be your default voice.  It seems as if somehow the announcements are 
>> made by a different voice rather than default.
>> 
>> hope this helps.
>> 
>> Andrew
>>> On 16 Feb 2016, at 23:10, Marie Lyons  wrote:
>>> 
>>> V/O F8 doesn’t do anything on my computer. Well since then I wound up with 
>>> 3 different voices. Alex reads the message but Victoria and Fred seem to 
>>> make the announcements.  I don’t like this.  I have no idea why I can’t fix 
>>> it.
>>> 
>>> Marie Lyons
 On Feb 15, 2016, at 9:18 PM, CJ Daniel  wrote:
 
 Marie,
 
 Press VO-F8 to launch the VO Utility.  VO-Shift-DownArrow on the Category 
 table.  Arrow to the Speech option.  VO-Shift-UpArrow to stop interacting 
 & move right to the voice options.  Press VO-SpaceBar to select it. Down 
 Arrow to the Configure option.  Pick any other voice than Alex, Bruce, or 
 Fred.  Wait for it to download & then select it.  That’ll do it.
 
 You see there’s an ass on the list, who has figured out a string of text 
 that, when inserted into the subject line of an email, causes Alex to shut 
 down.  It’s real cute.  I hope he reaps what he’s sown.  
 
 Hope this helps,
 
 CJ
 
 
> On Feb 15, 2016, at 6:19 PM, Marie Lyons  wrote:
> 
> My v/o keeps shutting down.  What can I do to fix it?
> 
> Marie Lyons. I had called disability support and they couldn’t 
> figure it out.  Help greatly appreciated
> 
> Marie Lyons
>> On Feb 14, 2016, at 10:55 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> I became aware of the offensive emails and the deliberate string 
>> to shut down the Alex screen reader this morning.
>> 
>> At that time, I looked at the email address of the sender and 
>> recognized it as one that I had just banned, last night, from the 
>> V iPhone list, for posting offensive language.
>> 
>> For whatever reason, when I attempted to locate her/his address in 
>> the members list of this group, I could not find it.  Yet, the 
>> posts continued to come to the list.
>> 
>> I was away from my computer for most of the day but, upon 
>> returning home about an hour or so ago, I managed to locate the 
>> user and first, change his/her posting privileges and then remove him 
>> from the list.
>> 
>> To be quite honest, the account I located was unlike any I've seen 
>> in any groups.  So, it is possible, more messages will come 
>> through but I think I located the right address.  Only time will tell.
>> 
>> Please know that I, on behalf of Cara, am paying close attention 
>> and am doing all I can to rid the list of such nuisances.
>> 
>> For the record, the malicious string shut down my speech 
>> synthesizer, as well.  Very, very annoying.  Like others in this 
>> groups, I had to use my Windows computer with a non-mac screen 
>> reader to discover the source of the problem.
>> 
>> Please know that we are in this together and, together, we'll get 
>> through it.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
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how to share a file on your computer to Facebook.

[Jessica Moss]

I just downloaded an e-mail attachment II need to upload to facebook, which is 
in jpg format, but for some reason, the share option isn't showing up anywhere, 
and when I open it it in preview, which is opened by default, it isn't there 
either.  Am I missing something here?

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RE: To The List About The Recent Spam

[M. Taylor]

Terje,

Your post to this list, using profanity, is unacceptable.  Do not, under any 
circumstances, use profane language when posting to this group.

Thank you,

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Terje Strømberg
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 1:26 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Cc: Terje Strømberg
Subject: Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

Yeah, very strange. I am fascinated about how the fuck can this be possible? 
Turned off my voice over. Some kind of script maybe. To me it is surprising and 
interesting how it can be done, but most of all i don’t want to excperience it 
again. Very bad.

Take care

17. feb. 2016 kl. 22:04 skrev Marie Lyons :

I can’t seem to correct it. I went in and unchecked checkboxes but I still have 
3 voices. I guess what I’m needing is step by step instruction. I have a call 
in to accessibility support for follow-up on the spam issue.. Perhaps he can 
help me solve this. This didn’t seem to be a place to save changes.

Marie
> On Feb 17, 2016, at 4:12 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> In VoiceOver utility, under speech category, set all your voices to Alex and 
> Alex to be your default voice.  It seems as if somehow the announcements are 
> made by a different voice rather than default.
> 
> hope this helps.
> 
> Andrew
>> On 16 Feb 2016, at 23:10, Marie Lyons  wrote:
>> 
>> V/O F8 doesn’t do anything on my computer. Well since then I wound up with 3 
>> different voices. Alex reads the message but Victoria and Fred seem to make 
>> the announcements.  I don’t like this.  I have no idea why I can’t fix it.
>> 
>> Marie Lyons
>>> On Feb 15, 2016, at 9:18 PM, CJ Daniel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Marie,
>>> 
>>> Press VO-F8 to launch the VO Utility.  VO-Shift-DownArrow on the Category 
>>> table.  Arrow to the Speech option.  VO-Shift-UpArrow to stop interacting & 
>>> move right to the voice options.  Press VO-SpaceBar to select it. Down 
>>> Arrow to the Configure option.  Pick any other voice than Alex, Bruce, or 
>>> Fred.  Wait for it to download & then select it.  That’ll do it.
>>> 
>>> You see there’s an ass on the list, who has figured out a string of text 
>>> that, when inserted into the subject line of an email, causes Alex to shut 
>>> down.  It’s real cute.  I hope he reaps what he’s sown.  
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> 
>>> CJ
>>> 
>>> 
 On Feb 15, 2016, at 6:19 PM, Marie Lyons  wrote:
 
 My v/o keeps shutting down.  What can I do to fix it?
 
 Marie Lyons. I had called disability support and they couldn’t 
 figure it out.  Help greatly appreciated
 
 Marie Lyons
> On Feb 14, 2016, at 10:55 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I became aware of the offensive emails and the deliberate string 
> to shut down the Alex screen reader this morning.
> 
> At that time, I looked at the email address of the sender and 
> recognized it as one that I had just banned, last night, from the 
> V iPhone list, for posting offensive language.
> 
> For whatever reason, when I attempted to locate her/his address in 
> the members list of this group, I could not find it.  Yet, the 
> posts continued to come to the list.
> 
> I was away from my computer for most of the day but, upon 
> returning home about an hour or so ago, I managed to locate the 
> user and first, change his/her posting privileges and then remove him 
> from the list.
> 
> To be quite honest, the account I located was unlike any I've seen 
> in any groups.  So, it is possible, more messages will come 
> through but I think I located the right address.  Only time will tell.
> 
> Please know that I, on behalf of Cara, am paying close attention 
> and am doing all I can to rid the list of such nuisances.
> 
> For the record, the malicious string shut down my speech 
> synthesizer, as well.  Very, very annoying.  Like others in this 
> groups, I had to use my Windows computer with a non-mac screen 
> reader to discover the source of the problem.
> 
> Please know that we are in this together and, together, we'll get 
> through it.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
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Frustrated with Apple Pay

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Hi guys:
I have a new iphone 6s. I bought it for Apple pay. I cannot get it to work! I 
went to Sprouts, and Petco, who have apple pay. I held my phone up to the 
reader. Phone vibrated, and brought up my credit card. I touched the finger id. 
nothing happened! I cannot figure it out!
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Re: Ultralingua dictionary, slightly off topic

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Hi:
I was told it wasn’t accessible, but cannot verify myself.
> On Feb 17, 2016, at 11:09 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I've been using Ultralingua dictionary on the mac platform for a long time, 
> and it's quite accessible.  I've been asked by a newly visually impaired 
> person to help them with the same Ultralingua dictionary but with the Windows 
> version.  I've no experience of it on Windows, so I thought I'd ask you, 
> friends, whether anybody has been using Ultralingua dictionaries from 
> Ultralingua.com on Windows with Jaws.  If yes, and if you would like to lend 
> a hand, please email me off list.
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> Andrew
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Silent "T" in Yosemite

[Bill Gallik]

Good Evening to All on the Macvionaries List

I’m not at all certain what changes I may have made, but when typing on my Mac 
Mini neither the lower nor upper case “T” is spoken.  I’m certain this is a 
relatively recent development because I’m sure I’d have noticed it much earlier 
than just last week.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

Kindly “Thank You” to anyone offering suggestions!
* * * * * * * * *
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Re: attn Kevin, I believe I've found another chrome accessibility bug.

[Kevin Chao]

Thanks Erik!
This has been fixed in the Canary channel of Chrome, so should be available
in Stable Production at some point soonish.
It's possible to have Chrome Canary installed along side stable production
channel.

On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 11:00 AM erik burggraaf 
wrote:

> Maybe an update fixes my issues with chrome and voiceover since I'm
> running 10.10, though I'm reluctant as by all reports, it breaks safari
> even more.  So, I'm still on 10.10 here and maybe that makes a difference.
>
> Please visit this link.
> http://chrishofstader.com/stop-the-ada-trolls/
>
> Or this one where I first noticed it.
>
> http://www.ohrc.on.ca/en/iv-human-rights-issues-all-stages-employment/5-interviewing-and-making-hiring-decisions
>
> Or try it out on your own article.
>
> Find the top of the content and press control option A to start reading
> with voiceover.  When a heading, list, or other formatting comes up,
> voiceover will stop reading and announce, "chrome busy.
> press command f5 to turn voiceover off then command f5 again to turn
> voiceover on.
> It turns out chrome is actually doing just fine and you can continue
> reading from where you left off, but the next major formatting change will
> render voiceover speechless except for a spurious chrome busy message.
> Navigating block by block with control option left and right or quicknav
> does not produce this behavior.  It only happens when reading continuously
> with control option A.
>
> Any one else replecate this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Erik Burggraaf
>
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Re: Record your iPad or iPhone screen

[Daniela Rubio]

Hi!

Just go to make ew video, then, before pressing start recording, go to the pup 
up to select the input devices. And in your Camera and microphone, select your 
iPad or iPhone, which most be connected.
.
Then, press the button to record at maximum volume, as now, voiceOver will go 
out from your headset if it it is connected to your mac, or through your mac 
speakers. In that way, you can control what you are doing, and the sound of 
VoiceOver, music or anything the comes from your iOs device, will also be 
recorded.

Pros the button to start recording, do what ever you wish in your iOS device 
and then stop it.

This was quick, but I hope it helps.

Best

Daniela Rubio

> El 18 feb 2016, a las 12:55 a.m., Jeff Berwick  
> escribió:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Several months ago, there was a thread making the rounds on how to record 
> your iPad or iPhone screen using Quicktime.  For the life of me, I can't find 
> this by Googling.  Does anybody have the thread or the steps necessary to do 
> so?
> 
> Tia,
> Jeff
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Re: Record your iPad or iPhone screen

[Alex Hall]

It's pretty simple, and I really should record how sometime. Until then:

1. Open QuickTime with your iOS device connected.
2. Go to File > New > Screen Recording (I'm going off memory, but the text 
should be similar to that at least).
3. From the options for camera/microphone, choose your iOS device.
4. Start recording. Remember to leave the volume up using the slider in the 
record options, or you won't hear your iOS device. If you want to record to 
something like Audio Hijack, just capture QuickTime's audio.
> On Feb 17, 2016, at 18:55, Jeff Berwick  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> Several months ago, there was a thread making the rounds on how to record 
> your iPad or iPhone screen using Quicktime.  For the life of me, I can't find 
> this by Googling.  Does anybody have the thread or the steps necessary to do 
> so?
> 
> Tia,
> Jeff
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Record your iPad or iPhone screen

[Jeff Berwick]

Hi all,

Several months ago, there was a thread making the rounds on how to record your 
iPad or iPhone screen using Quicktime.  For the life of me, I can't find this 
by Googling.  Does anybody have the thread or the steps necessary to do so?

Tia,
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Re: Txt expansion

[David Chittenden]

I press space after typing the letters. When in a form field, I then tap delete 
to remove the space from the edit field.

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> On 17 Feb 2016, at 21:51, Caitlyn Furness  wrote:
> 
> I have trouble with the text expansion “sticking”.  I set up one, for 
> example, to expand into my email address.  Lots of times, it just remains as 
> the three letters and doesn’t expand into what it’s supposed to.
> 
> Have any suggestions?
> Thanks,
> Caitlyn
> 
>> On Feb 16, 2016, at 6:00 PM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Jonathan,
>> 
>> That’s exactly what I want to do but do they get carried across all your 
>> devices or do you have to enter them on each device you wish to use? On the 
>> Mac You have to do a lot of VO navigation, after pressing the add button, 
>> you have to VO 9 times. As for IOS, the focus seems to vary using my Apple 
>> keyboard. So I purchased text expander and the touch version. But that is 
>> great for bigger snippets. Have you found a quick way of entering 
>> abbreviations on the Mac? I wonder if you use a lot of the braille 
>> contractions? I had put them in my phone but then removed them because I put 
>> a space after them. I used the semicolon for the 4,5 prefix and the colon 
>> for 4,5,6, oh and the full stop as dot 5 or 6.
>> 
>> Oh and I wondered have you found a way to put a line break, so you could do 
>> things like postal addresses? BTW: Do you know what is the maximum character 
>> length?
>> 
>> I look forward to any comments and or tips you might have in respect of the 
>> above.
>> 
>> https://smilesoftware.com/textexpander/support
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>>> On 16 Feb 2016, at 19:24, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Gina, I use the text expansion built into Mac and iOS and it's a huge 
>>> time saver. I've got a lot of three-letter abbreviations that result in 
>>> expansion into very lengthy messages. It's great for inquiries I get 
>>> regularly, and I like that once I get an expansion added, it's available on 
>>> all my OS X and iOS devices. It rocks rather majorly I reckon.
>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>> Mosen Consulting
>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>> http://Mosen.org
>>> 
 On 16/02/2016, at 9:27 AM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
 
 Hello all ,
 
 I wondered if any use txt expansion on their IOS or Mac? While I can input 
 my abbreviations myself, it seems it is a very 
 Painful exercise using Apple's shortcut options in keyboard shortcuts.
 
 Is there an app that has  predefined routines?
 A common method is to not type vowel letters for example.
 
 Many thanks
 
 Gena
 
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Re: Txt expansion

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

Well I’m been playing with this for some time now and I can’t get my devices to 
sync. It is a well known bug so will just stick with the app from smile.

Many thanks, 

Regards,

Gena


> On 17 Feb 2016, at 13:28, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Yes it is a part of OS X and IOS current versions. Not sure how long they’ve 
> been there just look under keyboard  preferences in OS x preferences, 
> keyboard and on the text tab. For IOS in Settings, general, keyboard and the 
> text expansion button.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Gena
> 
>> On 17 Feb 2016, at 13:18, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Is this built-in to the mac and Iphone?
>> Or do you have to buy it somewhere.
>> /A
>>> On 17 Feb 2016, at 08:01, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Gena,
>>> 
>>> On the Mac, to add a string and substitution:
>>> • In System Preferences, press k for Keyboard and VO-Space to open that tab;
>>> • Select Text;
>>> • Press VO-Cmd-t to go to the table of substitutions;
>>> • Press VO-Down Arrow to get to the Add button;
>>> • Press VO-Space on the button and type your string;
>>> • Press VO-Right Arrow and type your expanded text.
>>> 
>>> That’s it. To add a line break, press Option-Return.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
 On 17 Feb 2016, at 00:00, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
 
 Hello Jonathan,
 
 That’s exactly what I want to do but do they get carried across all your 
 devices or do you have to enter them on each device you wish to use? On 
 the Mac You have to do a lot of VO navigation, after pressing the add 
 button, you have to VO 9 times. As for IOS, the focus seems to vary using 
 my Apple keyboard. So I purchased text expander and the touch version. But 
 that is great for bigger snippets. Have you found a quick way of entering 
 abbreviations on the Mac? I wonder if you use a lot of the braille 
 contractions? I had put them in my phone but then removed them because I 
 put a space after them. I used the semicolon for the 4,5 prefix and the 
 colon for 4,5,6, oh and the full stop as dot 5 or 6.
 
 Oh and I wondered have you found a way to put a line break, so you could 
 do things like postal addresses? BTW: Do you know what is the maximum 
 character length?
 
 I look forward to any comments and or tips you might have in respect of 
 the above.
 
 https://smilesoftware.com/textexpander/support
 
 Kind regards,
 
 Gena
 
> On 16 Feb 2016, at 19:24, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
> 
> Hi Gina, I use the text expansion built into Mac and iOS and it's a huge 
> time saver. I've got a lot of three-letter abbreviations that result in 
> expansion into very lengthy messages. It's great for inquiries I get 
> regularly, and I like that once I get an expansion added, it's available 
> on all my OS X and iOS devices. It rocks rather majorly I reckon.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org
> 
>> On 16/02/2016, at 9:27 AM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all ,
>> 
>> I wondered if any use txt expansion on their IOS or Mac? While I can 
>> input my abbreviations myself, it seems it is a very 
>> Painful exercise using Apple's shortcut options in keyboard shortcuts.
>> 
>> Is there an app that has  predefined routines?
>> A common method is to not type vowel letters for example.
>> 
>> Many thanks
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
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Re: Interesting reading for Mac and 5.1

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

I've done it both ways. At home I have a mac mini which is our family 
entertainment hub hooked to an old TV for video and a single optical 
cable to my 5.1 surround amp/speakers for audio. Simple and has just 
worked for years. For a larger setup I have a mini and an external box 
which takes the optical in and has 6 RCA jacks for discrete audio output 
which I then run to a Mackie mixer and then six separate amps. The mixer 
lets me mix down to just stereo if need be or do the full 5.1 if the 
other speakers are hooked up. I set that up a few years ago and I think 
it was this box that did the digital to discrete analog conversion:


https://sewelldirect.com/sewell-digital-to-analog-51-dts-surround-sound-decoder-spdif-to-rca

CB

On 2/9/16 2:59 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

It's got a left and right RCA audio output connectors for the front speakers 
and a 3.5 mil jack for each of the sub / centre and rear speakers.
  There is also a 3.5 mill headphone jack and also same for a microphone / line 
in.
  Other than that it's got an optical in and USB in
As for what model, I can't remember exactly but it's a creative labs device,
And I would have had it 5 years give or take.
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Interesting reading for Mac and 5.1

Does your USB sound also have component?  If so, what is the model.  I need to 
replace mine.


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Subject: Re: Interesting reading for Mac and 5.1

There are alot of apple adaptors now that allow you to do all sorts of things I 
have a thunderbolt to hdmi adaptor which gives surround sound.
I also have a USB sound card (External) that allows me to get 5.1 sound through 
the usb on any computer plus it has optical out So it can be done a number of 
ways.

Sent from my iPhone


On 6/02/2016, at 5:54 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:

So talk about this a little more.  The bottom line is there’s difficulty 
getting 5.1 out of a Mac?

I hadn’t thought about that.  I just have used the Apple TV and an optical out 
but never tried to do 5.1 right out of the Mac.

Here’s another question, what if I want to play back with non Dolby?  Say I 
want to use DTS?  That’s one of the disadvantages of using digital downloadable 
content, you don’t get the alternate sound encoding or do you?  I’ve not seen 
it ever mentioned.  I prefer the sound of DTS not sure if others agree.


On Feb 5, 2016, at 3:34 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:

It is interesting reading, yeah.  Thanks for sharing.

I don’t have 5.1 myself, but this article seems a bit misleading when it says, 
for instance, that DVD playback using DVD player or iTunes Store movies don’t 
support 5.1.  Of course both do, but you need a software decoder, such as that 
in VLC, to get surround from this analog setup.  Apple’s software uses Dolby 
Digital (AC3) passthrough, when it’s available.  So, in other words, you can 
still enjoy 5.1 with your home theatre, just in more limited ways.

This page, and the one to which it is linked, is full of fascinating insights:
http://www.dr-lex.be/software/surround_osx.html

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Re: finding a network drive on my mac

[Alex Hall]

Assuming the drive is already available on the Mac, go to Finder and hit 
cmd-shift-c. You should see it in the resulting list. If not, hit cmd-k (if I 
recall right) to connect to the drive. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 17, 2016, at 15:45, Tony  wrote:
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> Hi, I’m new to the mac world, so please bare. I have a wireless network 
> drive. How do I find it on my macbook pro? I want to install Windows on my 
> mac, and I need to access the iso file on the network drive.
> Thanks.
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Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

[Terje Strømberg]

Yeah, very strange. I am fascinated about how the fuck can this be possible? 
Turned off my voice over. Some kind of script maybe. To me it is surprising and 
interesting how it can be done, but most of all i don’t want to excperience it 
again. Very bad.

Take care

17. feb. 2016 kl. 22:04 skrev Marie Lyons :

I can’t seem to correct it. I went in and unchecked checkboxes but I still have 
3 voices. I guess what I’m needing is step by step instruction. I have a call 
in to accessibility support for follow-up on the spam issue.. Perhaps he can 
help me solve this. This didn’t seem to be a place to save changes.

Marie
> On Feb 17, 2016, at 4:12 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> In VoiceOver utility, under speech category, set all your voices to Alex and 
> Alex to be your default voice.  It seems as if somehow the announcements are 
> made by a different voice rather than default.
> 
> hope this helps.
> 
> Andrew
>> On 16 Feb 2016, at 23:10, Marie Lyons  wrote:
>> 
>> V/O F8 doesn’t do anything on my computer. Well since then I wound up with 3 
>> different voices. Alex reads the message but Victoria and Fred seem to make 
>> the announcements.  I don’t like this.  I have no idea why I can’t fix it.
>> 
>> Marie Lyons
>>> On Feb 15, 2016, at 9:18 PM, CJ Daniel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Marie,
>>> 
>>> Press VO-F8 to launch the VO Utility.  VO-Shift-DownArrow on the Category 
>>> table.  Arrow to the Speech option.  VO-Shift-UpArrow to stop interacting & 
>>> move right to the voice options.  Press VO-SpaceBar to select it. Down 
>>> Arrow to the Configure option.  Pick any other voice than Alex, Bruce, or 
>>> Fred.  Wait for it to download & then select it.  That’ll do it.
>>> 
>>> You see there’s an ass on the list, who has figured out a string of text 
>>> that, when inserted into the subject line of an email, causes Alex to shut 
>>> down.  It’s real cute.  I hope he reaps what he’s sown.  
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> 
>>> CJ
>>> 
>>> 
 On Feb 15, 2016, at 6:19 PM, Marie Lyons  wrote:
 
 My v/o keeps shutting down.  What can I do to fix it?
 
 Marie Lyons. I had called disability support and they couldn’t figure it 
 out.  Help greatly appreciated
 
 Marie Lyons
> On Feb 14, 2016, at 10:55 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
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> 
> I became aware of the offensive emails and the deliberate string to shut
> down the Alex screen reader this morning.  
> 
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> it
> as one that I had just banned, last night, from the V iPhone list, for
> posting offensive language.  
> 
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> members list of this group, I could not find it.  Yet, the posts continued
> to come to the list.  
> 
> I was away from my computer for most of the day but, upon returning home
> about an hour or so ago, I managed to locate the user and first, change
> his/her posting privileges and then remove him from the list.
> 
> To be quite honest, the account I located was unlike any I've seen in any
> groups.  So, it is possible, more messages will come through but I think I
> located the right address.  Only time will tell.  
> 
> Please know that I, on behalf of Cara, am paying close attention and am
> doing all I can to rid the list of such nuisances.
> 
> For the record, the malicious string shut down my speech synthesizer, as
> well.  Very, very annoying.  Like others in this groups, I had to use my
> Windows computer with a non-mac screen reader to discover the source of 
> the
> problem.
> 
> Please know that we are in this together and, together, we'll get through
> it.
> 
> Mark
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Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

[Marie Lyons]

I can’t seem to correct it. I went in and unchecked checkboxes but I still have 
3 voices. I guess what I’m needing is step by step instruction. I have a call 
in to accessibility support for follow-up on the spam issue.. Perhaps he can 
help me solve this. This didn’t seem to be a place to save changes.

Marie
> On Feb 17, 2016, at 4:12 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> In VoiceOver utility, under speech category, set all your voices to Alex and 
> Alex to be your default voice.  It seems as if somehow the announcements are 
> made by a different voice rather than default.
> 
> hope this helps.
> 
> Andrew
>> On 16 Feb 2016, at 23:10, Marie Lyons > > wrote:
>> 
>> V/O F8 doesn’t do anything on my computer. Well since then I wound up with 3 
>> different voices. Alex reads the message but Victoria and Fred seem to make 
>> the announcements.  I don’t like this.  I have no idea why I can’t fix it.
>> 
>> Marie Lyons
>>> On Feb 15, 2016, at 9:18 PM, CJ Daniel >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Marie,
>>> 
>>> Press VO-F8 to launch the VO Utility.  VO-Shift-DownArrow on the Category 
>>> table.  Arrow to the Speech option.  VO-Shift-UpArrow to stop interacting & 
>>> move right to the voice options.  Press VO-SpaceBar to select it. Down 
>>> Arrow to the Configure option.  Pick any other voice than Alex, Bruce, or 
>>> Fred.  Wait for it to download & then select it.  That’ll do it.
>>> 
>>> You see there’s an ass on the list, who has figured out a string of text 
>>> that, when inserted into the subject line of an email, causes Alex to shut 
>>> down.  It’s real cute.  I hope he reaps what he’s sown.  
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> 
>>> CJ
>>> 
>>> 
 On Feb 15, 2016, at 6:19 PM, Marie Lyons > wrote:
 
 My v/o keeps shutting down.  What can I do to fix it?
 
 Marie Lyons. I had called disability support and they couldn’t figure it 
 out.  Help greatly appreciated
 
 Marie Lyons
> On Feb 14, 2016, at 10:55 PM, M. Taylor  > wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,  
> 
> I became aware of the offensive emails and the deliberate string to shut
> down the Alex screen reader this morning.  
> 
> At that time, I looked at the email address of the sender and recognized 
> it
> as one that I had just banned, last night, from the V iPhone list, for
> posting offensive language.  
> 
> For whatever reason, when I attempted to locate her/his address in the
> members list of this group, I could not find it.  Yet, the posts continued
> to come to the list.  
> 
> I was away from my computer for most of the day but, upon returning home
> about an hour or so ago, I managed to locate the user and first, change
> his/her posting privileges and then remove him from the list.
> 
> To be quite honest, the account I located was unlike any I've seen in any
> groups.  So, it is possible, more messages will come through but I think I
> located the right address.  Only time will tell.  
> 
> Please know that I, on behalf of Cara, am paying close attention and am
> doing all I can to rid the list of such nuisances.
> 
> For the record, the malicious string shut down my speech synthesizer, as
> well.  Very, very annoying.  Like others in this groups, I had to use my
> Windows computer with a non-mac screen reader to discover the source of 
> the
> problem.
> 
> Please know that we are in this together and, together, we'll get through
> it.
> 
> Mark
> 
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finding a network drive on my mac

[Tony]

Hi, I'm new to the mac world, so please bare. I have a wireless network
drive. How do I find it on my macbook pro? I want to install Windows on my
mac, and I need to access the iso file on the network drive. 

Thanks.

 

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Ultralingua dictionary, slightly off topic

[Andrew Lamanche]

Hi,

I've been using Ultralingua dictionary on the mac platform for a long time, and 
it's quite accessible.  I've been asked by a newly visually impaired person to 
help them with the same Ultralingua dictionary but with the Windows version.  
I've no experience of it on Windows, so I thought I'd ask you, friends, whether 
anybody has been using Ultralingua dictionaries from Ultralingua.com on Windows 
with Jaws.  If yes, and if you would like to lend a hand, please email me off 
list.

Many thanks

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Windows 7 to a network drive then to my mac

[Tony]

Hi all,

I just got a Windows 7 disk that I purchased from amazon. I want to install
it on my macbook pro, but it has no disk drive. Would I be able to copy the
disk from a windows laptop to a network drive then install Windows 7 off of
the network drive to my macbook using VM Fusion? Also, is there a way to do
the Windows installation without sighted assistance? Is voiceover involved,
or can I activate narrator to assist me?

I'm really looking forward to getting this done. Thanks for any help.

 

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Re: Numbers Has Gone Backwards with VoiceOVer

[Phil Halton]

No other suggestions I'm afraid Brian. As I said, I use this app daily and I 
have no problems whatsoever. The only thing Apple screwed up in the last 
version was that now, when arrowing up and down through a table, voiceover 
reads the row number in addition to the cell number which gets awfully verbose. 
But, I've learned to live with it. Good luck it sounds like some kind of 
corrupted in stall.

Sent from my IPhone


> On Feb 17, 2016, at 12:52 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
> Hey Phil,
> 
> According to my app store there are no updates, so I believe I am running the 
> most recent version. Just checked and in deed it is 3.6.1, so same as you, 
> but I am having several issues as I mentioned reminding me of how numbers 
> performed a few years ago. I am going to try to uninstall and reinstall it to 
> see if that fixes the bugs. Any other suggestions if that fails? Thanks,
>> On Feb 16, 2016, at 9:27 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>> Brian, I'm using the latest version of numbers on Yosemite and I have 
>> absolutely no problems with it whatsoever. There was a change where in era 
>> going through the table video now reads the lines or the row numbers which 
>> is slightly annoying, but that's about it. Aside from that, everything works 
>> as advertised. No big changes. My version I believe is 3.6.1 and I'm running 
>> Yosemite.
>> I checked the app store for the latest update and didn't see anything for 
>> numbers, so I assume that you're picking up a version from a while ago or 
>> something. What version are you running and is it a recent update?
>> 
>> Sent from my IPhone
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 16, 2016, at 2:44 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am still running Yosemite and the last update to Numbers has made it once 
>>> again almost unusable with VO. I am constantly losing focus as I can be 
>>> down 30 rows hit the down arrow and instead of going to row 31 I am kicked 
>>> back to the header cell. Additionally VO has stopped reading my columns as 
>>> VO cuts out and I have to toggle VO off and on five or six times to get it 
>>> to work. Is anyone else experiencing this, and if so any work arounds?
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Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

[Jessica Moss]

Ok, I was under the impression that the unopened messages had those strings of 
characters attached to them, and that was what caused them.  That was what 
started it on my end anyhow.
  The first one I got had one, and I thought voiceover was studdring when it 
crashed, but it was simply trying to read whatever that mess was in the first 
place.
On Feb 17, 2016, at 4:23 AM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  wrote:

> okay, so here goes, if you look at the mails that is eventually
> shooting VO down, there is no strange letters in the subject, we are 4
> different persons who is trying to fix this into a update so it don't
> happen again, but is hard too duplicate.
> Could someone be so kind as to send me a private email with the letters?
> Stopping it from happening is easy enough, but making it crash is hard,
> 
> On 2/17/16, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>> In VoiceOver utility, under speech category, set all your voices to Alex and
>> Alex to be your default voice.  It seems as if somehow the announcements are
>> made by a different voice rather than default.
>> 
>> hope this helps.
>> 
>> Andrew
>>> On 16 Feb 2016, at 23:10, Marie Lyons  wrote:
>>> 
>>> V/O F8 doesn’t do anything on my computer. Well since then I wound up with
>>> 3 different voices. Alex reads the message but Victoria and Fred seem to
>>> make the announcements.  I don’t like this.  I have no idea why I can’t
>>> fix it.
>>> 
>>> Marie Lyons
 On Feb 15, 2016, at 9:18 PM, CJ Daniel > wrote:
 
 Marie,
 
 Press VO-F8 to launch the VO Utility.  VO-Shift-DownArrow on the Category
 table.  Arrow to the Speech option.  VO-Shift-UpArrow to stop interacting
 & move right to the voice options.  Press VO-SpaceBar to select it. Down
 Arrow to the Configure option.  Pick any other voice than Alex, Bruce, or
 Fred.  Wait for it to download & then select it.  That’ll do it.
 
 You see there’s an ass on the list, who has figured out a string of text
 that, when inserted into the subject line of an email, causes Alex to
 shut down.  It’s real cute.  I hope he reaps what he’s sown.
 
 Hope this helps,
 
 CJ
 
 
> On Feb 15, 2016, at 6:19 PM, Marie Lyons  wrote:
> 
> My v/o keeps shutting down.  What can I do to fix it?
> 
> Marie Lyons. I had called disability support and they couldn’t figure it
> out.  Help greatly appreciated
> 
> Marie Lyons
>> On Feb 14, 2016, at 10:55 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> I became aware of the offensive emails and the deliberate string to
>> shut
>> down the Alex screen reader this morning.
>> 
>> At that time, I looked at the email address of the sender and
>> recognized it
>> as one that I had just banned, last night, from the V iPhone list, for
>> posting offensive language.
>> 
>> For whatever reason, when I attempted to locate her/his address in the
>> members list of this group, I could not find it.  Yet, the posts
>> continued
>> to come to the list.
>> 
>> I was away from my computer for most of the day but, upon returning
>> home
>> about an hour or so ago, I managed to locate the user and first,
>> change
>> his/her posting privileges and then remove him from the list.
>> 
>> To be quite honest, the account I located was unlike any I've seen in
>> any
>> groups.  So, it is possible, more messages will come through but I
>> think I
>> located the right address.  Only time will tell.
>> 
>> Please know that I, on behalf of Cara, am paying close attention and
>> am
>> doing all I can to rid the list of such nuisances.
>> 
>> For the record, the malicious string shut down my speech synthesizer,
>> as
>> well.  Very, very annoying.  Like others in this groups, I had to use
>> my
>> Windows computer with a non-mac screen reader to discover the source of
>> the
>> problem.
>> 
>> Please know that we are in this together and, together, we'll get
>> through
>> it.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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Re: Txt expansion

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

Yes it is a part of OS X and IOS current versions. Not sure how long they’ve 
been there just look under keyboard  preferences in OS x preferences, keyboard 
and on the text tab. For IOS in Settings, general, keyboard and the text 
expansion button.

Regards,

Gena

> On 17 Feb 2016, at 13:18, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Is this built-in to the mac and Iphone?
> Or do you have to buy it somewhere.
> /A
>> On 17 Feb 2016, at 08:01, Anne Robertson > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Gena,
>> 
>> On the Mac, to add a string and substitution:
>> • In System Preferences, press k for Keyboard and VO-Space to open that tab;
>> • Select Text;
>> • Press VO-Cmd-t to go to the table of substitutions;
>> • Press VO-Down Arrow to get to the Add button;
>> • Press VO-Space on the button and type your string;
>> • Press VO-Right Arrow and type your expanded text.
>> 
>> That’s it. To add a line break, press Option-Return.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>>> On 17 Feb 2016, at 00:00, Georgina Joyce >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Jonathan,
>>> 
>>> That’s exactly what I want to do but do they get carried across all your 
>>> devices or do you have to enter them on each device you wish to use? On the 
>>> Mac You have to do a lot of VO navigation, after pressing the add button, 
>>> you have to VO 9 times. As for IOS, the focus seems to vary using my Apple 
>>> keyboard. So I purchased text expander and the touch version. But that is 
>>> great for bigger snippets. Have you found a quick way of entering 
>>> abbreviations on the Mac? I wonder if you use a lot of the braille 
>>> contractions? I had put them in my phone but then removed them because I 
>>> put a space after them. I used the semicolon for the 4,5 prefix and the 
>>> colon for 4,5,6, oh and the full stop as dot 5 or 6.
>>> 
>>> Oh and I wondered have you found a way to put a line break, so you could do 
>>> things like postal addresses? BTW: Do you know what is the maximum 
>>> character length?
>>> 
>>> I look forward to any comments and or tips you might have in respect of the 
>>> above.
>>> 
>>> https://smilesoftware.com/textexpander/support 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> 
>>> Gena
>>> 
 On 16 Feb 2016, at 19:24, Jonathan Mosen > wrote:
 
 Hi Gina, I use the text expansion built into Mac and iOS and it's a huge 
 time saver. I've got a lot of three-letter abbreviations that result in 
 expansion into very lengthy messages. It's great for inquiries I get 
 regularly, and I like that once I get an expansion added, it's available 
 on all my OS X and iOS devices. It rocks rather majorly I reckon.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org 
> On 16/02/2016, at 9:27 AM, Georgina Joyce  > wrote:
> 
> Hello all ,
> 
> I wondered if any use txt expansion on their IOS or Mac? While I can 
> input my abbreviations myself, it seems it is a very 
> Painful exercise using Apple's shortcut options in keyboard shortcuts.
> 
> Is there an app that has  predefined routines?
> A common method is to not type vowel letters for example.
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> Gena
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Txt expansion

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You can use it on both the Mac and iPhone. It's in the keyboard part of 
settings and system preferences.

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On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 5:18 AM -0800, "Anders Holmberg" 
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Hi!Is this built-in to the mac and Iphone?Or do you have to buy it somewhere./A
On 17 Feb 2016, at 08:01, Anne Robertson  wrote:
Hello Gena,
On the Mac, to add a string and substitution:• In System Preferences, press k 
for Keyboard and VO-Space to open that tab;• Select Text;• Press VO-Cmd-t to go 
to the table of substitutions;• Press VO-Down Arrow to get to the Add button;• 
Press VO-Space on the button and type your string;• Press VO-Right Arrow and 
type your expanded text.
That’s it. To add a line break, press Option-Return.
Cheers,
Anne

On 17 Feb 2016, at 00:00, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
Hello Jonathan,
That’s exactly what I want to do but do they get carried across all your 
devices or do you have to enter them on each device you wish to use? On the Mac 
You have to do a lot of VO navigation, after pressing the add button, you have 
to VO 9 times. As for IOS, the focus seems to vary using my Apple keyboard. So 
I purchased text expander and the touch version. But that is great for bigger 
snippets. Have you found a quick way of entering abbreviations on the Mac? I 
wonder if you use a lot of the braille contractions? I had put them in my phone 
but then removed them because I put a space after them. I used the semicolon 
for the 4,5 prefix and the colon for 4,5,6, oh and the full stop as dot 5 or 6.
Oh and I wondered have you found a way to put a line break, so you could do 
things like postal addresses? BTW: Do you know what is the maximum character 
length?
I look forward to any comments and or tips you might have in respect of the 
above.
https://smilesoftware.com/textexpander/support
Kind regards,
Gena
On 16 Feb 2016, at 19:24, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
Hi Gina, I use the text expansion built into Mac and iOS and it's a huge time 
saver. I've got a lot of three-letter abbreviations that result in expansion 
into very lengthy messages. It's great for inquiries I get regularly, and I 
like that once I get an expansion added, it's available on all my OS X and iOS 
devices. It rocks rather majorly I reckon.

Jonathan MosenMosen ConsultingBlindness technology eBooks, tutorials and 
traininghttp://Mosen.org


On 16/02/2016, at 9:27 AM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
Hello all ,

I wondered if any use txt expansion on their IOS or Mac? While I can input my 
abbreviations myself, it seems it is a very 
Painful exercise using Apple's shortcut options in keyboard shortcuts.

Is there an app that has  predefined routines?
A common method is to not type vowel letters for example.

Many thanks

Gena

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Hi!
Is this built-in to the mac and Iphone?
Or do you have to buy it somewhere.
/A
> On 17 Feb 2016, at 08:01, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Gena,
> 
> On the Mac, to add a string and substitution:
> • In System Preferences, press k for Keyboard and VO-Space to open that tab;
> • Select Text;
> • Press VO-Cmd-t to go to the table of substitutions;
> • Press VO-Down Arrow to get to the Add button;
> • Press VO-Space on the button and type your string;
> • Press VO-Right Arrow and type your expanded text.
> 
> That’s it. To add a line break, press Option-Return.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 17 Feb 2016, at 00:00, Georgina Joyce > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Jonathan,
>> 
>> That’s exactly what I want to do but do they get carried across all your 
>> devices or do you have to enter them on each device you wish to use? On the 
>> Mac You have to do a lot of VO navigation, after pressing the add button, 
>> you have to VO 9 times. As for IOS, the focus seems to vary using my Apple 
>> keyboard. So I purchased text expander and the touch version. But that is 
>> great for bigger snippets. Have you found a quick way of entering 
>> abbreviations on the Mac? I wonder if you use a lot of the braille 
>> contractions? I had put them in my phone but then removed them because I put 
>> a space after them. I used the semicolon for the 4,5 prefix and the colon 
>> for 4,5,6, oh and the full stop as dot 5 or 6.
>> 
>> Oh and I wondered have you found a way to put a line break, so you could do 
>> things like postal addresses? BTW: Do you know what is the maximum character 
>> length?
>> 
>> I look forward to any comments and or tips you might have in respect of the 
>> above.
>> 
>> https://smilesoftware.com/textexpander/support 
>> 
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>>> On 16 Feb 2016, at 19:24, Jonathan Mosen >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Gina, I use the text expansion built into Mac and iOS and it's a huge 
>>> time saver. I've got a lot of three-letter abbreviations that result in 
>>> expansion into very lengthy messages. It's great for inquiries I get 
>>> regularly, and I like that once I get an expansion added, it's available on 
>>> all my OS X and iOS devices. It rocks rather majorly I reckon.
>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>> Mosen Consulting
>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>> http://Mosen.org 
 On 16/02/2016, at 9:27 AM, Georgina Joyce > wrote:
 
 Hello all ,
 
 I wondered if any use txt expansion on their IOS or Mac? While I can input 
 my abbreviations myself, it seems it is a very 
 Painful exercise using Apple's shortcut options in keyboard shortcuts.
 
 Is there an app that has  predefined routines?
 A common method is to not type vowel letters for example.
 
 Many thanks
 
 Gena
 
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Re: Txt expansion

[Donna Goodin]

Hi all,

I'm curious about how others use this feature.  It has always seemed very cool 
to me, but I've never really found a use for it.  I would love to hear examples 
from others of instances where you use text expansion.
thanks,
Donna
> On Feb 17, 2016, at 1:01 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Gena,
> 
> On the Mac, to add a string and substitution:
> • In System Preferences, press k for Keyboard and VO-Space to open that tab;
> • Select Text;
> • Press VO-Cmd-t to go to the table of substitutions;
> • Press VO-Down Arrow to get to the Add button;
> • Press VO-Space on the button and type your string;
> • Press VO-Right Arrow and type your expanded text.
> 
> That’s it. To add a line break, press Option-Return.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 17 Feb 2016, at 00:00, Georgina Joyce > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Jonathan,
>> 
>> That’s exactly what I want to do but do they get carried across all your 
>> devices or do you have to enter them on each device you wish to use? On the 
>> Mac You have to do a lot of VO navigation, after pressing the add button, 
>> you have to VO 9 times. As for IOS, the focus seems to vary using my Apple 
>> keyboard. So I purchased text expander and the touch version. But that is 
>> great for bigger snippets. Have you found a quick way of entering 
>> abbreviations on the Mac? I wonder if you use a lot of the braille 
>> contractions? I had put them in my phone but then removed them because I put 
>> a space after them. I used the semicolon for the 4,5 prefix and the colon 
>> for 4,5,6, oh and the full stop as dot 5 or 6.
>> 
>> Oh and I wondered have you found a way to put a line break, so you could do 
>> things like postal addresses? BTW: Do you know what is the maximum character 
>> length?
>> 
>> I look forward to any comments and or tips you might have in respect of the 
>> above.
>> 
>> https://smilesoftware.com/textexpander/support 
>> 
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>>> On 16 Feb 2016, at 19:24, Jonathan Mosen >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Gina, I use the text expansion built into Mac and iOS and it's a huge 
>>> time saver. I've got a lot of three-letter abbreviations that result in 
>>> expansion into very lengthy messages. It's great for inquiries I get 
>>> regularly, and I like that once I get an expansion added, it's available on 
>>> all my OS X and iOS devices. It rocks rather majorly I reckon.
>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>> Mosen Consulting
>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>> http://Mosen.org 
 On 16/02/2016, at 9:27 AM, Georgina Joyce > wrote:
 
 Hello all ,
 
 I wondered if any use txt expansion on their IOS or Mac? While I can input 
 my abbreviations myself, it seems it is a very 
 Painful exercise using Apple's shortcut options in keyboard shortcuts.
 
 Is there an app that has  predefined routines?
 A common method is to not type vowel letters for example.
 
 Many thanks
 
 Gena
 
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Re: Txt expansion

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Anne,

Much appreciated. That’s a lot easier. Thanks.

Gena

> On 17 Feb 2016, at 07:01, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Gena,
> 
> On the Mac, to add a string and substitution:
> • In System Preferences, press k for Keyboard and VO-Space to open that tab;
> • Select Text;
> • Press VO-Cmd-t to go to the table of substitutions;
> • Press VO-Down Arrow to get to the Add button;
> • Press VO-Space on the button and type your string;
> • Press VO-Right Arrow and type your expanded text.
> 
> That’s it. To add a line break, press Option-Return.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 17 Feb 2016, at 00:00, Georgina Joyce > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Jonathan,
>> 
>> That’s exactly what I want to do but do they get carried across all your 
>> devices or do you have to enter them on each device you wish to use? On the 
>> Mac You have to do a lot of VO navigation, after pressing the add button, 
>> you have to VO 9 times. As for IOS, the focus seems to vary using my Apple 
>> keyboard. So I purchased text expander and the touch version. But that is 
>> great for bigger snippets. Have you found a quick way of entering 
>> abbreviations on the Mac? I wonder if you use a lot of the braille 
>> contractions? I had put them in my phone but then removed them because I put 
>> a space after them. I used the semicolon for the 4,5 prefix and the colon 
>> for 4,5,6, oh and the full stop as dot 5 or 6.
>> 
>> Oh and I wondered have you found a way to put a line break, so you could do 
>> things like postal addresses? BTW: Do you know what is the maximum character 
>> length?
>> 
>> I look forward to any comments and or tips you might have in respect of the 
>> above.
>> 
>> https://smilesoftware.com/textexpander/support 
>> 
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>>> On 16 Feb 2016, at 19:24, Jonathan Mosen >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Gina, I use the text expansion built into Mac and iOS and it's a huge 
>>> time saver. I've got a lot of three-letter abbreviations that result in 
>>> expansion into very lengthy messages. It's great for inquiries I get 
>>> regularly, and I like that once I get an expansion added, it's available on 
>>> all my OS X and iOS devices. It rocks rather majorly I reckon.
>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>> Mosen Consulting
>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>> http://Mosen.org 
 On 16/02/2016, at 9:27 AM, Georgina Joyce > wrote:
 
 Hello all ,
 
 I wondered if any use txt expansion on their IOS or Mac? While I can input 
 my abbreviations myself, it seems it is a very 
 Painful exercise using Apple's shortcut options in keyboard shortcuts.
 
 Is there an app that has  predefined routines?
 A common method is to not type vowel letters for example.
 
 Many thanks
 
 Gena
 
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Re: Txt expansion

[Caitlyn Furness]

thanks, Ann.

How do you get this stuff to synch over all apple devices you own?

Thanks!
Caitlyn

> On Feb 17, 2016, at 2:01 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Gena,
> 
> On the Mac, to add a string and substitution:
> • In System Preferences, press k for Keyboard and VO-Space to open that tab;
> • Select Text;
> • Press VO-Cmd-t to go to the table of substitutions;
> • Press VO-Down Arrow to get to the Add button;
> • Press VO-Space on the button and type your string;
> • Press VO-Right Arrow and type your expanded text.
> 
> That’s it. To add a line break, press Option-Return.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 17 Feb 2016, at 00:00, Georgina Joyce > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Jonathan,
>> 
>> That’s exactly what I want to do but do they get carried across all your 
>> devices or do you have to enter them on each device you wish to use? On the 
>> Mac You have to do a lot of VO navigation, after pressing the add button, 
>> you have to VO 9 times. As for IOS, the focus seems to vary using my Apple 
>> keyboard. So I purchased text expander and the touch version. But that is 
>> great for bigger snippets. Have you found a quick way of entering 
>> abbreviations on the Mac? I wonder if you use a lot of the braille 
>> contractions? I had put them in my phone but then removed them because I put 
>> a space after them. I used the semicolon for the 4,5 prefix and the colon 
>> for 4,5,6, oh and the full stop as dot 5 or 6.
>> 
>> Oh and I wondered have you found a way to put a line break, so you could do 
>> things like postal addresses? BTW: Do you know what is the maximum character 
>> length?
>> 
>> I look forward to any comments and or tips you might have in respect of the 
>> above.
>> 
>> https://smilesoftware.com/textexpander/support 
>> 
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>>> On 16 Feb 2016, at 19:24, Jonathan Mosen >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Gina, I use the text expansion built into Mac and iOS and it's a huge 
>>> time saver. I've got a lot of three-letter abbreviations that result in 
>>> expansion into very lengthy messages. It's great for inquiries I get 
>>> regularly, and I like that once I get an expansion added, it's available on 
>>> all my OS X and iOS devices. It rocks rather majorly I reckon.
>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>> Mosen Consulting
>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>> http://Mosen.org 
 On 16/02/2016, at 9:27 AM, Georgina Joyce > wrote:
 
 Hello all ,
 
 I wondered if any use txt expansion on their IOS or Mac? While I can input 
 my abbreviations myself, it seems it is a very 
 Painful exercise using Apple's shortcut options in keyboard shortcuts.
 
 Is there an app that has  predefined routines?
 A common method is to not type vowel letters for example.
 
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Re: Txt expansion

[Caitlyn Furness]

I have trouble with the text expansion “sticking”.  I set up one, for example, 
to expand into my email address.  Lots of times, it just remains as the three 
letters and doesn’t expand into what it’s supposed to.

Have any suggestions?
Thanks,
Caitlyn

> On Feb 16, 2016, at 6:00 PM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
> Hello Jonathan,
> 
> That’s exactly what I want to do but do they get carried across all your 
> devices or do you have to enter them on each device you wish to use? On the 
> Mac You have to do a lot of VO navigation, after pressing the add button, you 
> have to VO 9 times. As for IOS, the focus seems to vary using my Apple 
> keyboard. So I purchased text expander and the touch version. But that is 
> great for bigger snippets. Have you found a quick way of entering 
> abbreviations on the Mac? I wonder if you use a lot of the braille 
> contractions? I had put them in my phone but then removed them because I put 
> a space after them. I used the semicolon for the 4,5 prefix and the colon for 
> 4,5,6, oh and the full stop as dot 5 or 6.
> 
> Oh and I wondered have you found a way to put a line break, so you could do 
> things like postal addresses? BTW: Do you know what is the maximum character 
> length?
> 
> I look forward to any comments and or tips you might have in respect of the 
> above.
> 
> https://smilesoftware.com/textexpander/support 
> 
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Gena
> 
>> On 16 Feb 2016, at 19:24, Jonathan Mosen > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Gina, I use the text expansion built into Mac and iOS and it's a huge 
>> time saver. I've got a lot of three-letter abbreviations that result in 
>> expansion into very lengthy messages. It's great for inquiries I get 
>> regularly, and I like that once I get an expansion added, it's available on 
>> all my OS X and iOS devices. It rocks rather majorly I reckon.
>> Jonathan Mosen
>> Mosen Consulting
>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>> http://Mosen.org 
>>> On 16/02/2016, at 9:27 AM, Georgina Joyce >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello all ,
>>> 
>>> I wondered if any use txt expansion on their IOS or Mac? While I can input 
>>> my abbreviations myself, it seems it is a very 
>>> Painful exercise using Apple's shortcut options in keyboard shortcuts.
>>> 
>>> Is there an app that has  predefined routines?
>>> A common method is to not type vowel letters for example.
>>> 
>>> Many thanks
>>> 
>>> Gena
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

[Sandi Jazmin Kruse]

okay, so here goes, if you look at the mails that is eventually
shooting VO down, there is no strange letters in the subject, we are 4
different persons who is trying to fix this into a update so it don't
happen again, but is hard too duplicate.
Could someone be so kind as to send me a private email with the letters?
Stopping it from happening is easy enough, but making it crash is hard,

On 2/17/16, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> In VoiceOver utility, under speech category, set all your voices to Alex and
> Alex to be your default voice.  It seems as if somehow the announcements are
> made by a different voice rather than default.
>
> hope this helps.
>
> Andrew
>> On 16 Feb 2016, at 23:10, Marie Lyons  wrote:
>>
>> V/O F8 doesn’t do anything on my computer. Well since then I wound up with
>> 3 different voices. Alex reads the message but Victoria and Fred seem to
>> make the announcements.  I don’t like this.  I have no idea why I can’t
>> fix it.
>>
>> Marie Lyons
>>> On Feb 15, 2016, at 9:18 PM, CJ Daniel >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Marie,
>>>
>>> Press VO-F8 to launch the VO Utility.  VO-Shift-DownArrow on the Category
>>> table.  Arrow to the Speech option.  VO-Shift-UpArrow to stop interacting
>>> & move right to the voice options.  Press VO-SpaceBar to select it. Down
>>> Arrow to the Configure option.  Pick any other voice than Alex, Bruce, or
>>> Fred.  Wait for it to download & then select it.  That’ll do it.
>>>
>>> You see there’s an ass on the list, who has figured out a string of text
>>> that, when inserted into the subject line of an email, causes Alex to
>>> shut down.  It’s real cute.  I hope he reaps what he’s sown.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps,
>>>
>>> CJ
>>>
>>>
 On Feb 15, 2016, at 6:19 PM, Marie Lyons  wrote:

 My v/o keeps shutting down.  What can I do to fix it?

 Marie Lyons. I had called disability support and they couldn’t figure it
 out.  Help greatly appreciated

 Marie Lyons
> On Feb 14, 2016, at 10:55 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I became aware of the offensive emails and the deliberate string to
> shut
> down the Alex screen reader this morning.
>
> At that time, I looked at the email address of the sender and
> recognized it
> as one that I had just banned, last night, from the V iPhone list, for
> posting offensive language.
>
> For whatever reason, when I attempted to locate her/his address in the
> members list of this group, I could not find it.  Yet, the posts
> continued
> to come to the list.
>
> I was away from my computer for most of the day but, upon returning
> home
> about an hour or so ago, I managed to locate the user and first,
> change
> his/her posting privileges and then remove him from the list.
>
> To be quite honest, the account I located was unlike any I've seen in
> any
> groups.  So, it is possible, more messages will come through but I
> think I
> located the right address.  Only time will tell.
>
> Please know that I, on behalf of Cara, am paying close attention and
> am
> doing all I can to rid the list of such nuisances.
>
> For the record, the malicious string shut down my speech synthesizer,
> as
> well.  Very, very annoying.  Like others in this groups, I had to use
> my
> Windows computer with a non-mac screen reader to discover the source of
> the
> problem.
>
> Please know that we are in this together and, together, we'll get
> through
> it.
>
> Mark
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Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

[Andrew Lamanche]

In VoiceOver utility, under speech category, set all your voices to Alex and 
Alex to be your default voice.  It seems as if somehow the announcements are 
made by a different voice rather than default.

hope this helps.

Andrew
> On 16 Feb 2016, at 23:10, Marie Lyons  wrote:
> 
> V/O F8 doesn’t do anything on my computer. Well since then I wound up with 3 
> different voices. Alex reads the message but Victoria and Fred seem to make 
> the announcements.  I don’t like this.  I have no idea why I can’t fix it.
> 
> Marie Lyons
>> On Feb 15, 2016, at 9:18 PM, CJ Daniel > > wrote:
>> 
>> Marie,
>> 
>> Press VO-F8 to launch the VO Utility.  VO-Shift-DownArrow on the Category 
>> table.  Arrow to the Speech option.  VO-Shift-UpArrow to stop interacting & 
>> move right to the voice options.  Press VO-SpaceBar to select it. Down Arrow 
>> to the Configure option.  Pick any other voice than Alex, Bruce, or Fred.  
>> Wait for it to download & then select it.  That’ll do it.
>> 
>> You see there’s an ass on the list, who has figured out a string of text 
>> that, when inserted into the subject line of an email, causes Alex to shut 
>> down.  It’s real cute.  I hope he reaps what he’s sown.  
>> 
>> Hope this helps,
>> 
>> CJ
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 15, 2016, at 6:19 PM, Marie Lyons  wrote:
>>> 
>>> My v/o keeps shutting down.  What can I do to fix it?
>>> 
>>> Marie Lyons. I had called disability support and they couldn’t figure it 
>>> out.  Help greatly appreciated
>>> 
>>> Marie Lyons
 On Feb 14, 2016, at 10:55 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,  
 
 I became aware of the offensive emails and the deliberate string to shut
 down the Alex screen reader this morning.  
 
 At that time, I looked at the email address of the sender and recognized it
 as one that I had just banned, last night, from the V iPhone list, for
 posting offensive language.  
 
 For whatever reason, when I attempted to locate her/his address in the
 members list of this group, I could not find it.  Yet, the posts continued
 to come to the list.  
 
 I was away from my computer for most of the day but, upon returning home
 about an hour or so ago, I managed to locate the user and first, change
 his/her posting privileges and then remove him from the list.
 
 To be quite honest, the account I located was unlike any I've seen in any
 groups.  So, it is possible, more messages will come through but I think I
 located the right address.  Only time will tell.  
 
 Please know that I, on behalf of Cara, am paying close attention and am
 doing all I can to rid the list of such nuisances.
 
 For the record, the malicious string shut down my speech synthesizer, as
 well.  Very, very annoying.  Like others in this groups, I had to use my
 Windows computer with a non-mac screen reader to discover the source of the
 problem.
 
 Please know that we are in this together and, together, we'll get through
 it.
 
 Mark
 
 
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