Re: Siri Shortcut

[Tim Kilburn]

hi,

Try this site:

http://osxdaily.com/2016/09/28/use-mac-siri-commands/ 


It is a good start.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 13, 2016, at 04:52, Saqib Hussain  wrote:

Thanks Tim. I’m starting to like my Mac Mini again due to the new OS. Siri even 
tells me how much storage I have left. Is there a list of things that you can 
ask Siri when it comes to operating the Mac? 
> On 11 Oct 2016, at 21:08, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Use cmd-space.  Hold down the cmd-space for a few seconds, until you hear the 
> ding that is saying that Siri is ready for you to speak.  If you release it 
> too quickly, it will bring up Spotlight instead.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Oct 11, 2016, at 13:22, Saqib Hussain  wrote:
> 
> Hi. Is there a shortcut to invoke Siri on the Mac mini?
> 
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Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello E.t.

Out of interest have you tried running ebook-convert on the file? Some may not 
have DRM applied.

Regards,

Gena



> On 12 Oct 2016, at 23:48, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Gena,
>   I may need to delete the one title that refuses to work and then try it 
> again.
> 
>   I installed the older version of the removal tool which matches your steps. 
> Same result though.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> 
> On 10/12/2016 1:50 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I don’t remember running into the kindle wizard myself. What are the
>> steps you take to run the kindle wizard? Then don’t do those steps again.
>> 
>> I did give an example of a kindle extension. So anything looking like
>> .azw is the file you need to point to. I have seen .mobi and .html files
>> too.
>> 
>> Good luck.
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 12 Oct 2016, at 17:39, E.T. >> >> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Another update on this process...
>>> 
>>>  The removal tool is a bit illogical and has unlabeled buttons but
>>> once those 3 are labeled, its not too bad.
>>> 
>>>  Adding file is a typical process. Once I learned that the .azw file
>>> is the file to work with, it was simple enough to select that and
>>> convert it.
>>> 
>>>  What I am running into is the Kindle wizard. It should not be
>>> popping up since I bought only 2 books so far, directly from Amazon.
>>> The wizard deals with content that comes from other sources so should
>>> not apply. I cannot do the 2nd book. When I retyrn to the app, the
>>> status for the 2nd book shows "information is incoeect". Dismissing
>>> the wizard gets me nowhere.
>>> 
>>>  I can open and close either book in the Kindle for Mac app and both
>>> are in the library folder. Will keep working on this.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Without H2O there is no life!
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com  
>>> >
>>> 
>>> On 10/8/2016 11:12 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
 Handling Kindle Books On The Mac
 
 This guide is not designed to assist the braking of copyright law. Users
 must take responsibility for their own actions and conscience. It is not
 for the faint hearterd either. Difficulty = medium to hard.
 
 Download the following:
 Kindle for Mac (This is for the UK store) So by default, the store is
 set to amazon.co.uk  > 
 >>. This setting is difficult 
 to
 change so download from your country to save you the bother.
 
 https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201246110 
 
 
 From memory, I tapped the tab key twice, then hit enter which forced the
 authorisation wizard to put the focus in the password field. Then I
 typed in my password then hit enter. Do these steps very slowly. I have
 a fast Mac but this wizard is very sluggish. Use VO B to read the dialog
 box. You’ll get very little speech out of it. You will know if you have
 been successful because it will present the opening screen which you can
 VO arrow left and right.
 
 Then download Kindle DRM Removal. This looks different site but I’m sure
 this is the right one.
 
 http://kindle-drm-removal-mac.en.softonic.com/mac/download 
 
 
 This will find the Kindle books that have been pulled down on to the
 Mac. It will create it’s own directory to store DRM removed files. I
 find the selection of books frustrating . You need to interact with the
 toolbar and click on the open files button. Which brings up a typical
 finder window and it’s difficult to know which book is which.
 
 Now download Calibre:
 https://calibre-ebook.com/download_osx 
 
 For this you might want to manipulate the path variable. As the command
 line tools are hidden in your Applications directory. Mine is:
 
 /Applications/calibre.app/Contents/MacOS/ebook-convert
 
 Don’t forget auto tab completion. So on the command line something like:
 
 ebook-convert My_Recipe_Book.azw3 .rtf
 
 Will generate My_Recipe_Book.rtf
 
 Here’s the help file:
 
 Usage: ebook-convert input_file output_file [options]
 
 Convert an ebook from one format to another.
 
 input_file is the input and output_file is the output. Both must be
 specified as the first two arguments to the command.
 
 The output 

Re: Siri Shortcut

[Mary Otten]

Saqib, what mic are you using on your mini? 

Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 13, 2016, at 3:52 AM, Saqib Hussain  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Tim. I’m starting to like my Mac Mini again due to the new OS. Siri 
> even tells me how much storage I have left. Is there a list of things that 
> you can ask Siri when it comes to operating the Mac? 
>> On 11 Oct 2016, at 21:08, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Use cmd-space.  Hold down the cmd-space for a few seconds, until you hear 
>> the ding that is saying that Siri is ready for you to speak.  If you release 
>> it too quickly, it will bring up Spotlight instead.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 13:22, Saqib Hussain  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi. Is there a shortcut to invoke Siri on the Mac mini?
>> 
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Re: iMud (an accessible macOS MUD/MUSH client)

[Tyler Thompson]

Short answer: Lua is Lua, never mind the O.S. so it’s possible, but not yet 
supported. 

Long answer: I’d love to make that work. This is the very reason I’ve reached 
out to others, I’d have to build a smart parser to strip away the MUSH-Z added 
Lua functions (or hack into the Lua interpreter to add them myself) but it’s 
within the realm of possibility. I’d love to support MUSH plugins as well.

> On Oct 13, 2016, at 11:17 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> Hi, since it supports LUA, could the Mush-Z scripts for Alteraeon be 
> implemented, or is that too heavily Windows based?
> 
> On 10/12/2016 9:51 AM, Tyler Thompson wrote:
>> For anybody who wants to try dentinmud.org  port 3000 
>> might be a good place to start. As far as what iMud currently offers over 
>> telnet Devin pretty much hit the nail on the head, sound support is a big 
>> feature. iMud also has both a custom scripting language and mildly supports 
>> Lua as a scripting language so that you can automate some features. So 
>> triggers, timers, delays, aliases, variables (macros coming soon)
>> 
>> Some minor details exist now to that you may or may not like, for example 
>> you can log output from the MUD with a timestamp, you can have 
>> custom aliases, you can gag (or simply not display) certain spammy/repeated 
>> text.
>> 
>> There’s a lot of features planned down the road, some are certainly 
>> accessibility based some are merely useful but I don’t want to promise and 
>> then not deliver so I’ll keep quiet for now. 
>> 
>> Oh! Last thing, iMud supports several MUD protocols already (MSP, MSDP 
>> (mildly), MSSP, MCCP(soon), GMCP(soon)) those protocols are used by both 
>> iMud and the MUD server, which means using only telnet you’re actually 
>> missing out on features that the game wants to try and supply (MCCP for 
>> example is a compression protocol good for slow connections)
>> 
>> For those of you testing this out just remember, it’s in beta :) (to start 
>> iMud accessibility type OPTION+COMMAND+A)
>> 
>>> On Oct 12, 2016, at 5:22 AM, Scott Granados >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have a follow up question if it’s ok.  I’ve played lots of muds but only 
>>> used telnet and the port number.  What do these clients do that say telnet 
>>> doesn’t offer?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Scott
>>> 
 On Oct 11, 2016, at 8:56 PM, Jim Danley > wrote:
 
 Hey Tyler,
 
 I am a swift programmer, but never did any mudding before. Can you provide 
 a host and port so I can play with the beta a little?
 
 Thanks
 
 Jim Danley
 
> On Oct 11, 2016, at 4:56 PM, Tyler Thompson  > wrote:
> 
> Hey Everybody,
> 
>   Quite some time ago I made a MUD client for OS X, it was alright but 
> promptly quit working with the advent of swift and apples usual 
> deprecation of code.
> 
>   I’ve recently restarted the iMud project (Beta available at 
> http://www.asid.us#software ) and have 
> gotten to a comfortable enough place. It has the usual, triggers, timers, 
> aliases, delays, MSP (provided it’s server-side, client-side coming 
> soon). It does support Lua to an extent and it’s all written in swift 3. 
> This client will only work on the latest macOS (sierra), this is 
> intentional, trying to support legacy operating systems is what got me in 
> trouble lsat time.
>  
>   If anybody is interested in beta testing the client give it a download 
> and send me a message to let me know what you think. If anybody is 
> interested in helping code iMud I have a plethora of ideas and would 
> welcome the help (you must know swift). Finally if anybody is interested 
> in learning to code and you think a partially constructed MUD client 
> might be a cool way to go feel free to message me.
> 
>   
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Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

[E.T.]

   Sad to say, no. Calibre worked fine on one title. I tried it on the 
other one and it says its a DRM protected file. Will dig into this some 
more.


   By the way the version of Calibre I ran does not need Terminal. I do 
need to go tweak the settings to format the txt file though.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/13/2016 8:34 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:

Hello E.t.

Out of interest have you tried running ebook-convert on the file? Some
may not have DRM applied.

Regards,

Gena




On 12 Oct 2016, at 23:48, E.T. > wrote:

Gena,
  I may need to delete the one title that refuses to work and then try
it again.

  I installed the older version of the removal tool which matches your
steps. Same result though.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com 

On 10/12/2016 1:50 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:

Hello,

I don’t remember running into the kindle wizard myself. What are the
steps you take to run the kindle wizard? Then don’t do those steps again.

I did give an example of a kindle extension. So anything looking like
.azw is the file you need to point to. I have seen .mobi and .html files
too.

Good luck.

Gena





On 12 Oct 2016, at 17:39, E.T. 
> wrote:

 Another update on this process...

 The removal tool is a bit illogical and has unlabeled buttons but
once those 3 are labeled, its not too bad.

 Adding file is a typical process. Once I learned that the .azw file
is the file to work with, it was simple enough to select that and
convert it.

 What I am running into is the Kindle wizard. It should not be
popping up since I bought only 2 books so far, directly from Amazon.
The wizard deals with content that comes from other sources so should
not apply. I cannot do the 2nd book. When I retyrn to the app, the
status for the 2nd book shows "information is incoeect". Dismissing
the wizard gets me nowhere.

 I can open and close either book in the Kindle for Mac app and both
are in the library folder. Will keep working on this.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 

On 10/8/2016 11:12 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:

Handling Kindle Books On The Mac

This guide is not designed to assist the braking of copyright law.
Users
must take responsibility for their own actions and conscience. It
is not
for the faint hearterd either. Difficulty = medium to hard.

Download the following:
Kindle for Mac (This is for the UK store) So by default, the store is
set to amazon.co.uk  

>. This setting is difficult to
change so download from your country to save you the bother.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201246110

From memory, I tapped the tab key twice, then hit enter which
forced the
authorisation wizard to put the focus in the password field. Then I
typed in my password then hit enter. Do these steps very slowly. I have
a fast Mac but this wizard is very sluggish. Use VO B to read the
dialog
box. You’ll get very little speech out of it. You will know if you have
been successful because it will present the opening screen which
you can
VO arrow left and right.

Then download Kindle DRM Removal. This looks different site but I’m
sure
this is the right one.

http://kindle-drm-removal-mac.en.softonic.com/mac/download

This will find the Kindle books that have been pulled down on to the
Mac. It will create it’s own directory to store DRM removed files. I
find the selection of books frustrating . You need to interact with the
toolbar and click on the open files button. Which brings up a typical
finder window and it’s difficult to know which book is which.

Now download Calibre:
https://calibre-ebook.com/download_osx
For this you might want to manipulate the path variable. As the command
line tools are hidden in your Applications directory. Mine is:

/Applications/calibre.app/Contents/MacOS/ebook-convert

Don’t forget auto tab completion. So on the command line something
like:

ebook-convert My_Recipe_Book.azw3 .rtf

Will generate My_Recipe_Book.rtf

Here’s the help file:

Usage: ebook-convert input_file output_file [options]

Convert an ebook from one format to another.

input_file is the input and output_file is the output. Both must be
specified as the first two arguments to the command.

The output ebook format is guessed from the file extension of
output_file. output_file can also be of the special format .EXT where
EXT is the output file extension. In this case, the name of the output
file is derived from the name of the input file. Note that the
filenames
must not start with a hyphen. Finally, if 

Re: iMud (an accessible macOS MUD/MUSH client)

[Devin Prater]

Hi, since it supports LUA, could the Mush-Z scripts for Alteraeon be 
implemented, or is that too heavily Windows based?



On 10/12/2016 9:51 AM, Tyler Thompson wrote:
For anybody who wants to try dentinmud.org  port 
3000 might be a good place to start. As far as what iMud currently 
offers over telnet Devin pretty much hit the nail on the head, sound 
support is a big feature. iMud also has both a custom scripting 
language and mildly supports Lua as a scripting language so that you 
can automate some features. So triggers, timers, delays, aliases, 
variables (macros coming soon)


Some minor details exist now to that you may or may not like, for 
example you can log output from the MUD with a timestamp, you can have 
custom aliases, you can gag (or simply not display) certain 
spammy/repeated text.


There’s a lot of features planned down the road, some are certainly 
accessibility based some are merely useful but I don’t want to promise 
and then not deliver so I’ll keep quiet for now.


Oh! Last thing, iMud supports several MUD protocols already (MSP, MSDP 
(mildly), MSSP, MCCP(soon), GMCP(soon)) those protocols are used by 
both iMud and the MUD server, which means using only telnet you’re 
actually missing out on features that the game wants to try and supply 
(MCCP for example is a compression protocol good for slow connections)


For those of you testing this out just remember, it’s in beta :) (to 
start iMud accessibility type OPTION+COMMAND+A)


On Oct 12, 2016, at 5:22 AM, Scott Granados > wrote:


I have a follow up question if it’s ok.  I’ve played lots of muds but 
only used telnet and the port number.  What do these clients do that 
say telnet doesn’t offer?


Thanks
Scott

On Oct 11, 2016, at 8:56 PM, Jim Danley > wrote:


Hey Tyler,

I am a swift programmer, but never did any mudding before. Can you 
provide a host and port so I can play with the beta a little?


Thanks

Jim Danley

On Oct 11, 2016, at 4:56 PM, Tyler Thompson 
> wrote:


Hey Everybody,

Quite some time ago I made a MUD client for OS X, it was alright 
but promptly quit working with the advent of swift and apples usual 
deprecation of code.


I’ve recently restarted the iMud project (Beta available at 
http://www.asid.us#software ) and 
have gotten to a comfortable enough place. It has the usual, 
triggers, timers, aliases, delays, MSP (provided it’s server-side, 
client-side coming soon). It does support Lua to an extent and it’s 
all written in swift 3. This client will only work on the latest 
macOS (sierra), this is intentional, trying to support legacy 
operating systems is what got me in trouble lsat time.
If anybody is interested in beta testing the client give it a 
download and send me a message to let me know what you think. If 
anybody is interested in helping code iMud I have a plethora of 
ideas and would welcome the help (you must know swift). Finally if 
anybody is interested in learning to code and you think a partially 
constructed MUD client might be a cool way to go feel free to 
message me.



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Re: Twitter

[Saqib Hussain]

Hi. I'm using the native Twitter app   With Nightowl! My replies go to the user 
account which is the next tweet down in the timeline and I stopped using that 
app. 

> On 13 Oct 2016, at 14:35, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
> 
> Hi. What Twitter client are you using, the native Twitter app or Night Owl? I 
> find that in Night Owl it remembers where I was before.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
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>> On Oct 13, 2016, at 7:12 AM, Saqib Hussain  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi. I’m always finding that Voiceover loses it’s position when I move away 
>> from the Twitter app on the Mac! When I bring the Twitter app back into 
>> focus, Voiceover jumps to the top of the timeline.
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Re: Help with Pages

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Brandt,

There is no shortcut provided for word count in Pages, but it is in the View 
menu. When it is shown, you stop interacting with the layout area and do 
VO-Right Arrow to find it. It’s a popup button with various options.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 12 Oct 2016, at 22:55, Brandt Steenkamp  wrote:
> 
> Hi there folks,
> 
> I am writing a document for which I need to know the word count. I know that 
> command Shift W shows this, but I cannot find it anywhere on the screen.
> 
> Please help?
> 
> Warm regards,
> 
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> 
> Sent from my Macbook Pro
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Any word on the new MacBooks? Starting to get adverts for cases.

[Scott Granados]

Hi all, I received an email from Waterfield designs today about sleeves and 
cases for the new MacBooks.  For folks who don’t know Gary Waterfield is a 
designer of high end leather bags as well as messenger bags, sleeves, wallets 
and equipment pouches.  I swear by his stuff, it’s all manufactured in San 
Francisco and highly rated by the various magazines.  Extremely stylish stuff.
Has Apple officially released the specs for the new laptops yet?  I 
can’t find anything on the Apple store, looks the same to me.  Wonder if this 
is a sign that the new stuff is near or Gary is just jumping the gun a 
little.:)  Any info would be most appreciated.

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Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

[E.T.]

   I used the same process on both books, both of which came directly 
from Amazon to my Mac. So not sure why just one book worked.


   I looked at plugins but was not sure which one I needed. Will have 
to get back to this later on.


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On 10/13/2016 11:46 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:

Hello E.T.

I orientate myself to the keyboard, so could you send details of the process of 
converting books, as you suggest? There’s a DRM plugin for calibre so that 
would simplify the whole process for everyone.

Regards,

Gena


On 13 Oct 2016, at 19:15, E.T.  wrote:

  Sad to say, no. Calibre worked fine on one title. I tried it on the other one 
and it says its a DRM protected file. Will dig into this some more.

  By the way the version of Calibre I ran does not need Terminal. I do need to 
go tweak the settings to format the txt file though.

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On 10/13/2016 8:34 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:

Hello E.t.

Out of interest have you tried running ebook-convert on the file? Some
may not have DRM applied.

Regards,

Gena




On 12 Oct 2016, at 23:48, E.T. > wrote:

Gena,
 I may need to delete the one title that refuses to work and then try
it again.

 I installed the older version of the removal tool which matches your
steps. Same result though.

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On 10/12/2016 1:50 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:

Hello,

I don’t remember running into the kindle wizard myself. What are the
steps you take to run the kindle wizard? Then don’t do those steps again.

I did give an example of a kindle extension. So anything looking like
.azw is the file you need to point to. I have seen .mobi and .html files
too.

Good luck.

Gena





On 12 Oct 2016, at 17:39, E.T. 
> wrote:

Another update on this process...

The removal tool is a bit illogical and has unlabeled buttons but
once those 3 are labeled, its not too bad.

Adding file is a typical process. Once I learned that the .azw file
is the file to work with, it was simple enough to select that and
convert it.

What I am running into is the Kindle wizard. It should not be
popping up since I bought only 2 books so far, directly from Amazon.
The wizard deals with content that comes from other sources so should
not apply. I cannot do the 2nd book. When I retyrn to the app, the
status for the 2nd book shows "information is incoeect". Dismissing
the wizard gets me nowhere.

I can open and close either book in the Kindle for Mac app and both
are in the library folder. Will keep working on this.

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On 10/8/2016 11:12 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:

Handling Kindle Books On The Mac

This guide is not designed to assist the braking of copyright law.
Users
must take responsibility for their own actions and conscience. It
is not
for the faint hearterd either. Difficulty = medium to hard.

Download the following:
Kindle for Mac (This is for the UK store) So by default, the store is
set to amazon.co.uk  

>. This setting is difficult to
change so download from your country to save you the bother.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201246110

From memory, I tapped the tab key twice, then hit enter which
forced the
authorisation wizard to put the focus in the password field. Then I
typed in my password then hit enter. Do these steps very slowly. I have
a fast Mac but this wizard is very sluggish. Use VO B to read the
dialog
box. You’ll get very little speech out of it. You will know if you have
been successful because it will present the opening screen which
you can
VO arrow left and right.

Then download Kindle DRM Removal. This looks different site but I’m
sure
this is the right one.

http://kindle-drm-removal-mac.en.softonic.com/mac/download

This will find the Kindle books that have been pulled down on to the
Mac. It will create it’s own directory to store DRM removed files. I
find the selection of books frustrating . You need to interact with the
toolbar and click on the open files button. Which brings up a typical
finder window and it’s difficult to know which book is which.

Now download Calibre:
https://calibre-ebook.com/download_osx
For this you might want to manipulate the path variable. As the command
line tools are hidden in your Applications directory. Mine is:

/Applications/calibre.app/Contents/MacOS/ebook-convert

Don’t forget auto tab completion. So on the command line 

Re: Reading kindle books on Mac OS or converting to other formats

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello E.T.

I orientate myself to the keyboard, so could you send details of the process of 
converting books, as you suggest? There’s a DRM plugin for calibre so that 
would simplify the whole process for everyone.

Regards,

Gena

> On 13 Oct 2016, at 19:15, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Sad to say, no. Calibre worked fine on one title. I tried it on the other 
> one and it says its a DRM protected file. Will dig into this some more.
> 
>   By the way the version of Calibre I ran does not need Terminal. I do need 
> to go tweak the settings to format the txt file though.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 10/13/2016 8:34 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
>> Hello E.t.
>> 
>> Out of interest have you tried running ebook-convert on the file? Some
>> may not have DRM applied.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 12 Oct 2016, at 23:48, E.T. >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Gena,
>>>  I may need to delete the one title that refuses to work and then try
>>> it again.
>>> 
>>>  I installed the older version of the removal tool which matches your
>>> steps. Same result though.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Without H2O there is no life!
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>>> 
>>> On 10/12/2016 1:50 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I don’t remember running into the kindle wizard myself. What are the
 steps you take to run the kindle wizard? Then don’t do those steps again.
 
 I did give an example of a kindle extension. So anything looking like
 .azw is the file you need to point to. I have seen .mobi and .html files
 too.
 
 Good luck.
 
 Gena
 
 
 
 
> On 12 Oct 2016, at 17:39, E.T.  
> > wrote:
> 
> Another update on this process...
> 
> The removal tool is a bit illogical and has unlabeled buttons but
> once those 3 are labeled, its not too bad.
> 
> Adding file is a typical process. Once I learned that the .azw file
> is the file to work with, it was simple enough to select that and
> convert it.
> 
> What I am running into is the Kindle wizard. It should not be
> popping up since I bought only 2 books so far, directly from Amazon.
> The wizard deals with content that comes from other sources so should
> not apply. I cannot do the 2nd book. When I retyrn to the app, the
> status for the 2nd book shows "information is incoeect". Dismissing
> the wizard gets me nowhere.
> 
> I can open and close either book in the Kindle for Mac app and both
> are in the library folder. Will keep working on this.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>  
> 
> On 10/8/2016 11:12 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
>> Handling Kindle Books On The Mac
>> 
>> This guide is not designed to assist the braking of copyright law.
>> Users
>> must take responsibility for their own actions and conscience. It
>> is not
>> for the faint hearterd either. Difficulty = medium to hard.
>> 
>> Download the following:
>> Kindle for Mac (This is for the UK store) So by default, the store is
>> set to amazon.co.uk  
>> 
>> >. This setting is difficult to
>> change so download from your country to save you the bother.
>> 
>> https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201246110
>> 
>> From memory, I tapped the tab key twice, then hit enter which
>> forced the
>> authorisation wizard to put the focus in the password field. Then I
>> typed in my password then hit enter. Do these steps very slowly. I have
>> a fast Mac but this wizard is very sluggish. Use VO B to read the
>> dialog
>> box. You’ll get very little speech out of it. You will know if you have
>> been successful because it will present the opening screen which
>> you can
>> VO arrow left and right.
>> 
>> Then download Kindle DRM Removal. This looks different site but I’m
>> sure
>> this is the right one.
>> 
>> http://kindle-drm-removal-mac.en.softonic.com/mac/download
>> 
>> This will find the Kindle books that have been pulled down on to the
>> Mac. It will create it’s own directory to store DRM removed files. I
>> find the selection of books frustrating . You need to interact with the
>> toolbar and click on the open files button. Which brings up a typical
>> finder window and it’s difficult to know which book is which.
>> 
>> Now download Calibre:

Re: Any word on the new MacBooks? Starting to get adverts for cases.

[Kliphton Miller]

I heard late october,.
> On Oct 13, 2016, at 4:12 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, I received an email from Waterfield designs today about sleeves and 
> cases for the new MacBooks.  For folks who don’t know Gary Waterfield is a 
> designer of high end leather bags as well as messenger bags, sleeves, wallets 
> and equipment pouches.  I swear by his stuff, it’s all manufactured in San 
> Francisco and highly rated by the various magazines.  Extremely stylish stuff.
>   Has Apple officially released the specs for the new laptops yet?  I 
> can’t find anything on the Apple store, looks the same to me.  Wonder if this 
> is a sign that the new stuff is near or Gary is just jumping the gun a 
> little.:)  Any info would be most appreciated.
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iPhone 7's unlocked versions online only

[Kliphton Miller]

The online apple store has unlocked iPhone 7, and 7Plus’s, in all colors and 
all capacities.  And they ship in less than a week, at least in my area.

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consistently selecting emoji

[aliFaisal]

Hello Everyone,
I have found that the emoji selector in messages and elsewhere are no longer 
working consistently like it did in previous operating systems. When I select 
the category I want IE people and smily, I can interact with the group. 
However, the actual emoji are only sometimes there. Other times, it keeps 
saying content is empty. I tried interacting with the selected group, and even 
tried pressing VO space on it to insure it is selected but still nothing.
Is there a consistent way to select emoji and inserting them into various text 
fields?


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Re: Help with Pages

[Brandt Steenkamp]

Hi Anne,

Command + Shift + W is indicated on the View menu to be the shortcut key, VO 
actually say "Show Word count," but nothing happens. However, when going threw 
view menu or View menu on the tool bar, the popup shows up with the info I 
wanted.

I think I will get there in the end.

Warm regards,

Brandt Steenkamp

Sent from my Macbook Pro

Contact:

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For technical support with iOS: +27 (0)78 120 5013 

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Twitter: @brandtsteenkamp 
> On 13 Oct 2016, at 8:38 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Brandt,
> 
> There is no shortcut provided for word count in Pages, but it is in the View 
> menu. When it is shown, you stop interacting with the layout area and do 
> VO-Right Arrow to find it. It’s a popup button with various options.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
>> On 12 Oct 2016, at 22:55, Brandt Steenkamp > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi there folks,
>> 
>> I am writing a document for which I need to know the word count. I know that 
>> command Shift W shows this, but I cannot find it anywhere on the screen.
>> 
>> Please help?
>> 
>> Warm regards,
>> 
>> Brandt Steenkamp
>> 
>> Sent from my Macbook Pro
>> 
>> Contact:
>> 
>> Phone:
>> Private: +27 (0)60 525 9181 
>> For technical support with iOS: +27 (0)78 120 5013 
>> 
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RE: The Twitter for iOS Night Mode Feature is Now Compatible with VoiceOver

[M. Taylor]

Hello Jürgen,

The Night Mode is for anyone who prefers white text on a dark background as 
opposed to black text on a white background.  

There are many of us who are VoiceOver users who also have some vision.

I use VoiceOver 100% of the time while still using what little vision I have to 
enjoy photos, videos, movies, etc.  I also use my vision to navigate the 
device's display, primarily based on color contrasts. 

When first introduced, Night Mode could not be enabled when VoiceOver was 
enabled.  

I don't know why but for some reason, developers don't realize that not all 
VoiceOver users are totally blind.  As a result, sometimes, they make some 
accessibility features mutually exclusive.

Fortunately, Twitter resolved this exclusivity and now I can much more easily 
enjoy my Twitter feeds without having to constantly toggle the display invert 
color feature. 

IN its purist form, the Night Mode is merely a color scheme/theme that reverses 
only menu item colors.  This has been possible in Windows for over 20 years and 
Samsung introduced the feature, a couple of years ago.  

Finally, the concepts has made its way to tvOS, as well.  

Slowly but surely, developers are beginning to realize that the needs of the 
low vision are not necessarily separate from those of the totally blind, just 
different.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jürgen Fleger
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 12:14 AM
To: Mac Visionaries Visionaries
Subject: Re: The Twitter for iOS Night Mode Feature is Now Compatible with 
VoiceOver

Hello Mark,
because I’m not sure if I fully got it a sincere question: in what way is this 
feature important to VoiceOver users? Or do you mean for partially sighted Zoom 
users?
Thanks and all the best
Jürgen


> Am 12.10.2016 um 06:38 schrieb M. Taylor :
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I am delighted to inform you that the new Twitter for iOS Night Mode 
> feature is now VoiceOver compatible in the latest update to the app.
> 
> Please join me in expressing appreciation to the Twitter developers 
> for addressing our request so quickly, in fact, within less than a month.
> 
> I will paste in my original message on this subject, wherein you will 
> find the various contact channels that I recommend.
> 
> This is truly a marvelous enhancement to an already outstanding social 
> media tool.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viph...@googlegroups.com [mailto:viph...@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 2:39 PM
> To: viph...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Please Join Me in Requesting That The New Night Mode Feature, 
> introduced in the Latest Version of the iOS Twitter App, Be Made 
> VoiceOver Accessible
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Recently, Twitter introduced a new accessibility feature called Night Mode.
> 
> As posted by I-Accessibility, Quote, Twitter for iOS has updated their 
> app with a feature called Night Mode that changes the app's color 
> scheme to allow for higher contrast text. This feature allows for 
> users to read tweets easier by showing text on a dark background with light 
> colored text. ...
> Turning on this feature will instantly switch your device to Night 
> mode, End Quote.
> http://iaccessibility.net/index.php/2016/09/24/quick-tip-enable-night-
> mode-i
> os-twitter-app/
> 
> Unfortunately, as was the case when Moments was introduced, the Night 
> Mode feature cannot be accessed when VoiceOver is enabled.
> 
> Please join me in requesting that Night Mode be made available even 
> when VoiceOver is enabled.
> 
> Post your request in the App Store as a review, send a tweet to both 
> @support and @Twitter, and send your request to Twitter via email at 
> supp...@twitter.com.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: The Twitter for iOS Night Mode Feature is Now Compatible with VoiceOver

[Jürgen Fleger]

Thanks Mark for your explanation.  
Jürgen


Von meinem iPhone gesendet

> Am 13.10.2016 um 08:51 schrieb M. Taylor :
> 
> Hello Jürgen,
> 
> The Night Mode is for anyone who prefers white text on a dark background as 
> opposed to black text on a white background.  
> 
> There are many of us who are VoiceOver users who also have some vision.
> 
> I use VoiceOver 100% of the time while still using what little vision I have 
> to enjoy photos, videos, movies, etc.  I also use my vision to navigate the 
> device's display, primarily based on color contrasts. 
> 
> When first introduced, Night Mode could not be enabled when VoiceOver was 
> enabled.  
> 
> I don't know why but for some reason, developers don't realize that not all 
> VoiceOver users are totally blind.  As a result, sometimes, they make some 
> accessibility features mutually exclusive.
> 
> Fortunately, Twitter resolved this exclusivity and now I can much more easily 
> enjoy my Twitter feeds without having to constantly toggle the display invert 
> color feature. 
> 
> IN its purist form, the Night Mode is merely a color scheme/theme that 
> reverses only menu item colors.  This has been possible in Windows for over 
> 20 years and Samsung introduced the feature, a couple of years ago.  
> 
> Finally, the concepts has made its way to tvOS, as well.  
> 
> Slowly but surely, developers are beginning to realize that the needs of the 
> low vision are not necessarily separate from those of the totally blind, just 
> different.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jürgen Fleger
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 12:14 AM
> To: Mac Visionaries Visionaries
> Subject: Re: The Twitter for iOS Night Mode Feature is Now Compatible with 
> VoiceOver
> 
> Hello Mark,
> because I’m not sure if I fully got it a sincere question: in what way is 
> this feature important to VoiceOver users? Or do you mean for partially 
> sighted Zoom users?
> Thanks and all the best
> Jürgen
> 
> 
>> Am 12.10.2016 um 06:38 schrieb M. Taylor :
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I am delighted to inform you that the new Twitter for iOS Night Mode 
>> feature is now VoiceOver compatible in the latest update to the app.
>> 
>> Please join me in expressing appreciation to the Twitter developers 
>> for addressing our request so quickly, in fact, within less than a month.
>> 
>> I will paste in my original message on this subject, wherein you will 
>> find the various contact channels that I recommend.
>> 
>> This is truly a marvelous enhancement to an already outstanding social 
>> media tool.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viph...@googlegroups.com [mailto:viph...@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of M. Taylor
>> Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 2:39 PM
>> To: viph...@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Please Join Me in Requesting That The New Night Mode Feature, 
>> introduced in the Latest Version of the iOS Twitter App, Be Made 
>> VoiceOver Accessible
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> Recently, Twitter introduced a new accessibility feature called Night Mode.
>> 
>> As posted by I-Accessibility, Quote, Twitter for iOS has updated their 
>> app with a feature called Night Mode that changes the app's color 
>> scheme to allow for higher contrast text. This feature allows for 
>> users to read tweets easier by showing text on a dark background with light 
>> colored text. ...
>> Turning on this feature will instantly switch your device to Night 
>> mode, End Quote.
>> http://iaccessibility.net/index.php/2016/09/24/quick-tip-enable-night-
>> mode-i
>> os-twitter-app/
>> 
>> Unfortunately, as was the case when Moments was introduced, the Night 
>> Mode feature cannot be accessed when VoiceOver is enabled.
>> 
>> Please join me in requesting that Night Mode be made available even 
>> when VoiceOver is enabled.
>> 
>> Post your request in the App Store as a review, send a tweet to both 
>> @support and @Twitter, and send your request to Twitter via email at 
>> supp...@twitter.com.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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Re: The Twitter for iOS Night Mode Feature is Now Compatible with VoiceOver

[Saqib Hussain]

Hi. This is great news as I’m a low vision user of Voiceover and I do prefer to 
have a black background as that is how I have setup my Apple TV 4th gen. I wish 
there was a way of seeing accounts that have been put on mute.  
> On 13 Oct 2016, at 07:51, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Jürgen,
> 
> The Night Mode is for anyone who prefers white text on a dark background as 
> opposed to black text on a white background.  
> 
> There are many of us who are VoiceOver users who also have some vision.
> 
> I use VoiceOver 100% of the time while still using what little vision I have 
> to enjoy photos, videos, movies, etc.  I also use my vision to navigate the 
> device's display, primarily based on color contrasts. 
> 
> When first introduced, Night Mode could not be enabled when VoiceOver was 
> enabled.  
> 
> I don't know why but for some reason, developers don't realize that not all 
> VoiceOver users are totally blind.  As a result, sometimes, they make some 
> accessibility features mutually exclusive.
> 
> Fortunately, Twitter resolved this exclusivity and now I can much more easily 
> enjoy my Twitter feeds without having to constantly toggle the display invert 
> color feature. 
> 
> IN its purist form, the Night Mode is merely a color scheme/theme that 
> reverses only menu item colors.  This has been possible in Windows for over 
> 20 years and Samsung introduced the feature, a couple of years ago.  
> 
> Finally, the concepts has made its way to tvOS, as well.  
> 
> Slowly but surely, developers are beginning to realize that the needs of the 
> low vision are not necessarily separate from those of the totally blind, just 
> different.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jürgen Fleger
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 12:14 AM
> To: Mac Visionaries Visionaries
> Subject: Re: The Twitter for iOS Night Mode Feature is Now Compatible with 
> VoiceOver
> 
> Hello Mark,
> because I’m not sure if I fully got it a sincere question: in what way is 
> this feature important to VoiceOver users? Or do you mean for partially 
> sighted Zoom users?
> Thanks and all the best
> Jürgen
> 
> 
>> Am 12.10.2016 um 06:38 schrieb M. Taylor :
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I am delighted to inform you that the new Twitter for iOS Night Mode 
>> feature is now VoiceOver compatible in the latest update to the app.
>> 
>> Please join me in expressing appreciation to the Twitter developers 
>> for addressing our request so quickly, in fact, within less than a month.
>> 
>> I will paste in my original message on this subject, wherein you will 
>> find the various contact channels that I recommend.
>> 
>> This is truly a marvelous enhancement to an already outstanding social 
>> media tool.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viph...@googlegroups.com [mailto:viph...@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of M. Taylor
>> Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 2:39 PM
>> To: viph...@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Please Join Me in Requesting That The New Night Mode Feature, 
>> introduced in the Latest Version of the iOS Twitter App, Be Made 
>> VoiceOver Accessible
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> Recently, Twitter introduced a new accessibility feature called Night Mode.
>> 
>> As posted by I-Accessibility, Quote, Twitter for iOS has updated their 
>> app with a feature called Night Mode that changes the app's color 
>> scheme to allow for higher contrast text. This feature allows for 
>> users to read tweets easier by showing text on a dark background with light 
>> colored text. ...
>> Turning on this feature will instantly switch your device to Night 
>> mode, End Quote.
>> http://iaccessibility.net/index.php/2016/09/24/quick-tip-enable-night-
>> mode-i
>> os-twitter-app/
>> 
>> Unfortunately, as was the case when Moments was introduced, the Night 
>> Mode feature cannot be accessed when VoiceOver is enabled.
>> 
>> Please join me in requesting that Night Mode be made available even 
>> when VoiceOver is enabled.
>> 
>> Post your request in the App Store as a review, send a tweet to both 
>> @support and @Twitter, and send your request to Twitter via email at 
>> supp...@twitter.com.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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Re: Siri Shortcut

[Saqib Hussain]

Thanks Tim. I’m starting to like my Mac Mini again due to the new OS. Siri even 
tells me how much storage I have left. Is there a list of things that you can 
ask Siri when it comes to operating the Mac? 
> On 11 Oct 2016, at 21:08, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Use cmd-space.  Hold down the cmd-space for a few seconds, until you hear the 
> ding that is saying that Siri is ready for you to speak.  If you release it 
> too quickly, it will bring up Spotlight instead.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Oct 11, 2016, at 13:22, Saqib Hussain  wrote:
> 
> Hi. Is there a shortcut to invoke Siri on the Mac mini?
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Re: Twitter

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hi. What Twitter client are you using, the native Twitter app or Night Owl? I 
find that in Night Owl it remembers where I was before.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
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Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

> On Oct 13, 2016, at 7:12 AM, Saqib Hussain  wrote:
> 
> Hi. I’m always finding that Voiceover loses it’s position when I move away 
> from the Twitter app on the Mac! When I bring the Twitter app back into 
> focus, Voiceover jumps to the top of the timeline. 
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[Saqib Hussain]

Hi. I’m always finding that Voiceover loses it’s position when I move away from 
the Twitter app on the Mac! When I bring the Twitter app back into focus, 
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Re: Clean install of Sierra

[christopher hallsworth]

I’ve heard of that from someone else, so glad you are not alone.
> On 12 Oct 2016, at 23:35, matthew dyer  wrote:
> 
> Chris,
> 
> 
> The only problem I ran into was durring icloud set up I had a problem whare 
> trying to enable 2factor authentication the system would reboot at the screen 
> whare you are asked for a phone number to use for ggetting a code. I left 
> this alone to get everything else set up then set it up later, but other than 
> that you should be fine.
> 
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/12/2016 01:26 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:
>> Hello everyone.
>> 
>> I plan to do a clean install of Sierra, just to see if there are any issues 
>> my girlfriend may experience if she does it on her own. For now though, are 
>> you aware of any? I see no issues when updating from El Capitan or the GM 
>> (Golden Master), but never done a clean install. Any responses greatly 
>> appreciated. Thanks!
>> 
>> 
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