Just one more thing to this: don't you have to route your mouse to VO
in order to perform the physical mouse click with vo+shift+space
accurately? That is of course if you don't have your cursors tracking
each other.
Best wishes
Simon
On 10 Jun 2009, at 20:24, Chris Gilland wrote:
>
> Wel
HI,
If it is exposed so. The Mac Alpha's are out now.
Regards,
Alex,
On 11-Jun-09, at 7:42 PM, Mike Reiser wrote:
>
> In theory I'm going to guess that chrome will be accessible too sense
> it's written with webkit?
>
> Mike
> On Jun 11, 2009, at 5:10 PM, Brett Campbell wrote:
>
>>
>> This ex
Hi,
It is a bug. I have it as List View already.
It was a known bug in iTunes 8.0.2 or somthing.
Regards,
Alex,
On 11-Jun-09, at 7:22 PM, Justin Harford wrote:
>
> I highly doubt if this is a bug. Press cmd+option+3 to make it list
> view. Chances are that it is showing it to you as a grid
Hi,
It's better than it was but still has some problems.
I would download the trial and see if it works for what you want it for.
- Original Message -
From: Kerry Painter
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 8:35 AM
Subject: IWorks
Hi Folks.
In theory I'm going to guess that chrome will be accessible too sense
it's written with webkit?
Mike
On Jun 11, 2009, at 5:10 PM, Brett Campbell wrote:
>
> This explanation helps. Thank you.
>
> Brett
>
>
> On Jun 11, 2009, at 8:34 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Safari 3/4 are ju
I was confused about the editing thing as well at first but am doing
much better now I think. I still goof up sometimes but oh well. This
guy obviously did not read the vo manual as I looked at it today and
it's very detailed in going over the desktop orientation and all
that. They don'
It's an office sweet that Apple produces similar to MS Office. It is
quite accessible with vo for writeing documents and keynotes. I've
heard of issues with tables and things in iwork along with some others
but should be fine for most tasks.
Mike
On Jun 11, 2009, at 8:35 AM, Kerry Painter
I highly doubt if this is a bug. Press cmd+option+3 to make it list
view. Chances are that it is showing it to you as a grid or cover flow.
Regards
J
On Jun 11, 2009, at 6:00 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> This is a bug it seems E-mail Accessibility.
>
> Regards,
> Alex,
>
>
> On 11-J
Not to mention that apple would not have made any jibes against AT&T
not even unintentional ones if they were happy with AT&T. I to see the
writing on the wall about more U.S. carriers. Just wish it were soon,
like real soon.
My wife has had an iPhone since the very first one, early on. I w
Hi, if I may say something, you two, I have heard Samantha and
Victoria both.
I say that Samantha is a pretty decent voice for the i phone.
Victoria probably wouldn't be able to be understood, since i phones
are very small.
My brother has one, so I thin I should now how small an i phone isa.
J
Jed, control iption shift 1 eleven will turn the screen curtain on.
On Jun 10, 2009, at 3:22 PM, Jed Barton wrote:
>
> Hey guys,
> Anyone know how to turn on the screen curtin with the macbook?
>
> Thanks,
> Jed
>
>
> >
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Well, vo+shift+m is the equivalent of a right mouse click wherever your vo
cursor is.
vo+shift+space! is the same as a physical mouse click where the voice over
cursor is at.
Chris.
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Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 3:21 PM
Subject: How to d
I am curious to know if anyone has any clue what the scoop is on ITunes 8.2.
I know it is somewhat inaccessible for some weird reason with jaws 10 on the
windows side of things. I was curious if this issue ever as of yet has been
addressed. I spoke to a product specialist at Apple, and he sai
Is this the case in the UK also?
Kerry Painter (Independent Distributor)
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Hi,
This is a bug it seems E-mail Accessibility.
Regards,
Alex,
On 11-Jun-09, at 9:33 AM, Jesse Bollinger wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm having a wierd problem with Itunes. I've subscribed to some
> podcasts and want to listen to them. The sources table informs me I
> have two podcasts available.
Hi,
That isn't the time. I'm not sure what it is.
Regards,
Alex,
On 11-Jun-09, at 10:41 AM, Wendy wrote:
>
> Hi, the other day i installed the update to safari and since then
> the time
> has been showing up on every message i type on adium. Does anyone
> know how
> i can change it so th
HI,
I don't have the source off-hand. This came up on another phone
Developers mailing list. But, I see things have changed.
Regards,
Alex,
On 11-Jun-09, at 10:05 AM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote:
> On Jun 9, 2009, at 8:36 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>> The criteria is that TomTom wants exclusive r
Hi, Brett and anyone else!
Very interesting; but, can anyone help me out, please? Installed Safari 4.0
last night on my iMac G4 running Mac OS X 10.4.11 Tiger. This morning,
discovered that the new Safari is much faster; but, now, cannot scroll web
pages with my arrow keys and cannot see the mouse
This explanation helps. Thank you.
Brett
On Jun 11, 2009, at 8:34 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Safari 3/4 are just the GUI which Apple places on top of Webkit. Think
> of Safari as the container you put food in when you go to a fancy
> container. YOu may add a Microwave feature to th
Interesting, so I'll explore my own journey with you.
My first talking computer ironicly was an apple ii e. My second was a
dos machine. Neither of these gave me much trouble. Windows was my
next stop, and with no prejudgement I worked for a week before I got
myself grounded. Windows 95 98
On Jun 11, 2009, at 1:07 PM, Brent Harding wrote:
> They didn't say that in the presentation. I guess someone like
> Sendero could do this as nobody said Tom Tom will be accessible for
> us or even work for walking routes. Whoever takes this one on will
> also likely have to make Bluetooth dr
That would be cool if you could run your finger over a map of a city
and have it read the streets that your finger passes over. I could
get use out of that.
My biggest objection to the maps and really to the idea of running the
fingers over the screen to have speech feedback would be the
They didn't say that in the presentation. I guess someone like Sendero could do
this as nobody said Tom Tom will be accessible for us or even work for walking
routes. Whoever takes this one on will also likely have to make Bluetooth
drivers for external GPS receivers since the kind in most phone
Does it actually tell what streets you have to cross in the walking portion of
the route after you get off the bus, how far away from the destination the bus
drops off, etc? I tried the transit thingy as we have it for here, and it is
only basically good for finding out which bus and what time,
Well, if it's anything like what Google Transit is, the directions are very
vague at the point where you're done riding the bus. For example, it might say
to take a certain bus to the transit center, transfer to another bus, get off
at a given street corner, but then it just says something like
Google Maps, from what I'm told, provides walking and public transit
directions. If that's the case, it should work quite well for VO
users, given that the Google Maps app is supposed to be accessible.
If it is not sufficient, Google Maps functionality is available to
iPhone developers, so
Hi, the other day i installed the update to safari and since then the time
has been showing up on every message i type on adium. Does anyone know how
i can change it so that the time don't show up on the messages please?
Thank you.
>From Wendy.
Member of
www.tafn.org.uk
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On Jun 9, 2009, at 5:56 AM, ben mustill-rose wrote:
> Assuming of course that the developer wants to. Essentially, you'll
> end up with the exact same situation you have on every other platform
> where a screenreader exists, its going to be down to the developers to
> make there applications access
Hello Group; Since installing safari version 4.0, I'm not able to
select images with the usual keystrokes. Could someone please tell me
how to click on these links using only the keyboard. Thanks, Max
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On Jun 9, 2009, at 8:36 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
> The criteria is that TomTom wants exclusive rights to Turn by Turn
> directions.
>
> So they have them.
Do you have a source for such information? I haven't seen anything
that claims Tomtom has exclusive rights to turn-by-turn. Google Maps
ca
On Jun 9, 2009, at 8:38 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
> The voice on the phone is Victoria because of her great workings with
> low RAM systems. She is the English US Candidate it seems.
>
> I saw this in a demo.
Just to clarify, VoiceOver is not in the demo, though the iPhone's TTS
is demonstrated.
>>> On Jun 9, 2009, at 7:38 PM, Brent Harding wrote:
I thought I heard that GPS like we need will never be a possibility
with the
maps program it comes with. I thought Apple is contractually
obligated to
stop short of turn by turn directions and not approve apps that do
>>>
On Jun 9, 2009, at 10:20 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
> As I had mentioned in the past, the non-S model of iPhone didn't
> have enough power to do real text to speech so I was kinda hoping
> we'd have VO with the newly released model. That also means we won't
> have this migrating to iPods and suc
Just to clarify some of this AT&T exclusivity contract business…
On Jun 9, 2009, at 10:37 PM, Justin Harford wrote:
> It is actually very clear. Just google it and you will find that the
> ATT Apple contract expires in 2010.
That's not really true. No one, outside the parties involved, know the
Hi all,
I'm having a wierd problem with Itunes. I've subscribed to some
podcasts and want to listen to them. The sources table informs me I
have two podcasts available. I tab over to try and get to the song
table to choose them but Voiceover goes from sources to search back to
sources. I
Why not do the work ourselves? Instead of seeing it as "shrugging
off," why don't we see it as giving us the power, in addition to Apple
and other developers? If scripting is coming to VO, it gives
*EVERYONE* the power, and doesn't take away anything from anyone.
Mark BurningHawk
Skype
Good morning,
The following document from the Apple developer's site lists the 17
ARIA roles that are supported in Safari 4. Note, that there are 59
ARIA roles in the draft ARIA recommendation.
http://developer.apple.com/safari/library/documentation/AppleApplications/Reference/SafariHTMLRef
Yep I goofed and didn't read the intire thing so used to top posting
smiles.
Mike
On Jun 11, 2009, at 12:52 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
>
> Hello Mike,
>
> The whole message is there. I interposted with your questions.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Anne
>
>
> On Jun 11, 2009, at 4:54 AM, Mike Reiser wrote:
>
Hi,
Safari 3/4 are just the GUI which Apple places on top of Webkit. Think
of Safari as the container you put food in when you go to a fancy
container. YOu may add a Microwave feature to the container, etc. But
if you leave food in it for a long time it won't taste quite as good
as the la
Thanks figured it out, it was a little confusing as there were two
save as items in the neu but I figured it out.
Mike
On Jun 10, 2009, at 7:54 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> To do this, press "CM" + "S" and then tab to "Save".
>
> Regards,
> Alex,
>
>
> On 10-Jun-09, at 5:48 AM, Ryan D
When you first started to use Windows were you new to computers? I
mean you didn't use Lunux or an older flavour of Mac before
hand? I'm asking as I wonder if you found the Mac quicker to learn
because you had a better grasp of computers in general when you
started with the Mac, something yo
But is it a issue of there drivers not supporting multi touch or an
actual hardware one?
On 11/06/2009, Ignasi Cambra wrote:
>
> No, it probably won't work on older macbooks because their trackpads
> don't support multi tuch.
> On Jun 11, 2009, at 7:16 AM, ben mustill-rose wrote:
>
>>
>> Surely
No, it probably won't work on older macbooks because their trackpads
don't support multi tuch.
On Jun 11, 2009, at 7:16 AM, ben mustill-rose wrote:
>
> Surely its just a software thing for all the mb's and mbp's though.
>
> On 11/06/2009, Justin Harford wrote:
>>
>> Or for that matter, will ol
Hey, I think you are getting concerned about nothing. There are a lot
of folks who are very involved in the development of VO who know the
good, the bad, and the ugly. The thing you need to keep in mind is
although VO is a screen reader, it is not like WE or JFW. The approach
although simi
Surely its just a software thing for all the mb's and mbp's though.
On 11/06/2009, Justin Harford wrote:
>
> Or for that matter, will older macbook and macbook pro models be left
> out. I'm pretty sure that the newer notebooks use different touch pad
> technology.
>
> Regards
> Justin Harford
>
http://www.apple.com/accessibility/iphone/vision.html
On Jun 11, 2009, at 6:44 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
> OK, I’ve missed something here after being away from my email for a
> while, what’s up with the IPhone?
>
> How is it been made useable?
>
>
>
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mail
OK, I've missed something here after being away from my email for a while,
what's up with the IPhone?
How is it been made useable?
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ignasi Cambra
Sent: Tuesday, 9 June 2009 11:21 a.m.
To: macvi
I actually have two gmail accounts over here and they both work fine...
On Jun 11, 2009, at 1:58 AM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
>
> Hello; After you set up the second account, did you go to mailbox
> setting and click take all accounts online? Did you go into advance
> settings and make sure you c
Hi,
The way i see it is like this: It's better we do the work than that we
have to rely on knowledgable access technology specialists or script
programmers who can, if they so desire, make money on what they do and
the fact that average blind people can't do the necessary programming.
I don'
Hey; I'm glad I could help. Its not often i have the answer or that
i get to ring in with it first. I had the same thing happen to me
when i was reading my mail a while back. For some reason i stopped
getting mail from my primary account. I puzzled over it for two days
before I notice
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