Re: yorufukurou question

2011-07-19 Thread Richard Ring
Thanks for your help! It worked this time. I guess I didn't understand the 
power of go to user. Now, for a final problem. Whenever I attempt to reply to a 
tweet by pressing enter while focused on a particular tweet, I end up replying 
to a completely different user.  Why is this happening, and is there a way to 
fix it? 
Thanks for any help anyone can give.

On Jul 18, 2011, at 12:27 PM, Zachary Kline wrote:

 Dear Richard,
 Can you not see any tweets by this user, that is, are they protected?  You 
 should be able to go to the table and find a tweet, it doesn't matter which 
 one.  After finding one the drawer should show the user's information.  From 
 there, following should be easy enough.
 Best,
 Zack.
 On Jul 18, 2011, at 10:18 AM, Richard Ring wrote:
 
 Perhaps I should attempt to clarify my question.  I want to follow a Twitter 
 user that I am not following, and whose tweets, therefore, I am not seeing.  
 Here's what I did.  First, I interacted with the toolbar.  I found the 
 drawer button.  I pressed that button.  I stopped interacting.  The item 
 called drawer was then visible on my screen.  I interacted with the 
 drawer and a series of statistics about the user whose tweet I had most 
 recently read appeared.  I found the user action menu.  In this menu is 
 nothing that would me to follow a brand-new user.  I could unfollow the user 
 whose tweet I had most recently read, but there was nothing in that menu 
 that would allow me to set up a new follower.  I then closed that menu, 
 stopped interacting with the drawer and pressed command u.  A dialog box 
 opened.  I interacted with it.  I pressed VO space and a large list of users 
 appeared.  Amazingly enough, I was able to find the user I wanted to follow. 
  I stopped interacting with the combo box, pressed the go to user button.  
 Then, i interacted with the drawer again.  This time, all that showed were a 
 lot of blank statastics for yorufukurou, as if that was the user.  Ther was, 
 no menu button at all.  I am completely at a loss as to how to proceed.
 
 On Jul 17, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
 
 Hey Rich,
 
 Interact with the drawer. If the drawer isn't visible, press the drawer 
 button in the toolbar. One of the options in the drawer will say User 
 action menu, button. Press that, and you'll find a following status 
 option. Right arrow and press carriage return on Follow. 
 
 If you don't have a tweet from the person you want to follow in your 
 timeline, You should be able to use cmd+u to go to a user and follow from 
 there in the same way.
 --
 Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
 Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
 
 
 
 On Jul 17, 2011, at 12:26 PM, Richard Ring wrote:
 
 Hello, I have a question about yorufukurou. Does anyone know how to follow 
 and/or unfollow someone? Your help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Re: yorufukurou question

2011-07-19 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Richard,
I've noticed this tends to happen if you use the Voiceover keys to navigate the 
table instead of the ordinary arrows.  Use the arrows without interacting and 
you should find this happening a lot less often.  Also, remember that 
YoruFukurou might be displaying real names when usernames are quite different.
Best,
Zack.
On Jul 19, 2011, at 3:57 AM, Richard Ring wrote:

 Thanks for your help! It worked this time. I guess I didn't understand the 
 power of go to user. Now, for a final problem. Whenever I attempt to reply to 
 a tweet by pressing enter while focused on a particular tweet, I end up 
 replying to a completely different user.  Why is this happening, and is there 
 a way to fix it? 
 Thanks for any help anyone can give.
 
 On Jul 18, 2011, at 12:27 PM, Zachary Kline wrote:
 
 Dear Richard,
 Can you not see any tweets by this user, that is, are they protected?  You 
 should be able to go to the table and find a tweet, it doesn't matter which 
 one.  After finding one the drawer should show the user's information.  From 
 there, following should be easy enough.
 Best,
 Zack.
 On Jul 18, 2011, at 10:18 AM, Richard Ring wrote:
 
 Perhaps I should attempt to clarify my question.  I want to follow a 
 Twitter user that I am not following, and whose tweets, therefore, I am not 
 seeing.  Here's what I did.  First, I interacted with the toolbar.  I found 
 the drawer button.  I pressed that button.  I stopped interacting.  The 
 item called drawer was then visible on my screen.  I interacted with the 
 drawer and a series of statistics about the user whose tweet I had most 
 recently read appeared.  I found the user action menu.  In this menu is 
 nothing that would me to follow a brand-new user.  I could unfollow the 
 user whose tweet I had most recently read, but there was nothing in that 
 menu that would allow me to set up a new follower.  I then closed that 
 menu, stopped interacting with the drawer and pressed command u.  A dialog 
 box opened.  I interacted with it.  I pressed VO space and a large list of 
 users appeared.  Amazingly enough, I was able to find the user I wanted to 
 follow.  I stopped interacting with the combo box, pressed the go to user 
 button.  Then, i interacted with the drawer again.  This time, all that 
 showed were a lot of blank statastics for yorufukurou, as if that was the 
 user.  Ther was, no menu button at all.  I am completely at a loss as to 
 how to proceed.
 
 On Jul 17, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
 
 Hey Rich,
 
 Interact with the drawer. If the drawer isn't visible, press the drawer 
 button in the toolbar. One of the options in the drawer will say User 
 action menu, button. Press that, and you'll find a following status 
 option. Right arrow and press carriage return on Follow. 
 
 If you don't have a tweet from the person you want to follow in your 
 timeline, You should be able to use cmd+u to go to a user and follow from 
 there in the same way.
 --
 Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
 Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
 
 
 
 On Jul 17, 2011, at 12:26 PM, Richard Ring wrote:
 
 Hello, I have a question about yorufukurou. Does anyone know how to 
 follow and/or unfollow someone? Your help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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navigating tables on the web with my new mac

2011-07-19 Thread Angie Giltinan
Good morning all, Angie here, I just got my new beautiful mac book air
on friday, I was, and still am a JAWS user, so the mac is so
different,
now to my question.
How in the world does one navigate tables with VO? What I want to be
able to do is move from cell to cell, up down, left and right, like
you can with JAWS. I've read the help topic on this like 4 times, and
still don't get it!!
Any help would be greatly appreciated .
Thanks in advance!


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31 Jesus said to the people who believed in him, You are truly my
disciples if you remain faithful to my teachings. 32 And you will know
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Re: yorufukurou question

2011-07-19 Thread Naama Shang
I've seen this happen if you have quick nav turned on. If you have it on, you 
need to turn it off before doing this.
Naama
On 19 Jul 2011, at 13:57, Richard Ring wrote:

 Thanks for your help! It worked this time. I guess I didn't understand the 
 power of go to user. Now, for a final problem. Whenever I attempt to reply to 
 a tweet by pressing enter while focused on a particular tweet, I end up 
 replying to a completely different user.  Why is this happening, and is there 
 a way to fix it? 
 Thanks for any help anyone can give.
 
 On Jul 18, 2011, at 12:27 PM, Zachary Kline wrote:
 
 Dear Richard,
 Can you not see any tweets by this user, that is, are they protected?  You 
 should be able to go to the table and find a tweet, it doesn't matter which 
 one.  After finding one the drawer should show the user's information.  From 
 there, following should be easy enough.
 Best,
 Zack.
 On Jul 18, 2011, at 10:18 AM, Richard Ring wrote:
 
 Perhaps I should attempt to clarify my question.  I want to follow a 
 Twitter user that I am not following, and whose tweets, therefore, I am not 
 seeing.  Here's what I did.  First, I interacted with the toolbar.  I found 
 the drawer button.  I pressed that button.  I stopped interacting.  The 
 item called drawer was then visible on my screen.  I interacted with the 
 drawer and a series of statistics about the user whose tweet I had most 
 recently read appeared.  I found the user action menu.  In this menu is 
 nothing that would me to follow a brand-new user.  I could unfollow the 
 user whose tweet I had most recently read, but there was nothing in that 
 menu that would allow me to set up a new follower.  I then closed that 
 menu, stopped interacting with the drawer and pressed command u.  A dialog 
 box opened.  I interacted with it.  I pressed VO space and a large list of 
 users appeared.  Amazingly enough, I was able to find the user I wanted to 
 follow.  I stopped interacting with the combo box, pressed the go to user 
 button.  Then, i interacted with the drawer again.  This time, all that 
 showed were a lot of blank statastics for yorufukurou, as if that was the 
 user.  Ther was, no menu button at all.  I am completely at a loss as to 
 how to proceed.
 
 On Jul 17, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
 
 Hey Rich,
 
 Interact with the drawer. If the drawer isn't visible, press the drawer 
 button in the toolbar. One of the options in the drawer will say User 
 action menu, button. Press that, and you'll find a following status 
 option. Right arrow and press carriage return on Follow. 
 
 If you don't have a tweet from the person you want to follow in your 
 timeline, You should be able to use cmd+u to go to a user and follow from 
 there in the same way.
 --
 Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
 Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
 
 
 
 On Jul 17, 2011, at 12:26 PM, Richard Ring wrote:
 
 Hello, I have a question about yorufukurou. Does anyone know how to 
 follow and/or unfollow someone? Your help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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RE: yorufukurou question

2011-07-19 Thread Missy Hoppe
I think another way to guarantee a new tweet that won't reply to anyone is to 
do command n. that seems to work for me. If
you're trying to reply, though, pressing enter on a tweet with that person's 
name seems to work most of the time. Good luck
getting it to work right; I'm still trying to get fully comfortable with this 
program myself, and still make a lot more
mistakes than I should, which is why I still primarily rely on qwitter on my PC.


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Naama Shang
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 7:55 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: yorufukurou question

I've seen this happen if you have quick nav turned on. If you have it on, you 
need to turn it off before doing this.
Naama
On 19 Jul 2011, at 13:57, Richard Ring wrote:

 Thanks for your help! It worked this time. I guess I didn't understand the 
 power of go to user. Now, for a final problem.
Whenever I attempt to reply to a tweet by pressing enter while focused on a 
particular tweet, I end up replying to a
completely different user.  Why is this happening, and is there a way to fix it?
 Thanks for any help anyone can give.

 On Jul 18, 2011, at 12:27 PM, Zachary Kline wrote:

 Dear Richard,
 Can you not see any tweets by this user, that is, are they protected?  You 
 should be able to go to the table and find a
tweet, it doesn't matter which one.  After finding one the drawer should show 
the user's information.  From there, following
should be easy enough.
 Best,
 Zack.
 On Jul 18, 2011, at 10:18 AM, Richard Ring wrote:

 Perhaps I should attempt to clarify my question.  I want to follow a 
 Twitter user that I am not following, and whose
tweets, therefore, I am not seeing.  Here's what I did.  First, I interacted 
with the toolbar.  I found the drawer button.
I pressed that button.  I stopped interacting.  The item called drawer was 
then visible on my screen.  I interacted with
the drawer and a series of statistics about the user whose tweet I had most 
recently read appeared.  I found the user
action menu.  In this menu is nothing that would me to follow a brand-new user. 
 I could unfollow the user whose tweet I had
most recently read, but there was nothing in that menu that would allow me to 
set up a new follower.  I then closed that
menu, stopped interacting with the drawer and pressed command u.  A dialog box 
opened.  I interacted with it.  I pressed VO
space and a large list of users appeared.  Amazingly enough, I was able to find 
the user I wanted to follow.  I stopped
interacting with the combo box, pressed the go to user button.  Then, i 
interacted with the drawer again.  This time, all
that showed were a lot of blank statastics for yorufukurou, as if that was the 
user.  Ther was, no menu button at all.  I am
completely at a loss as to how to proceed.

 On Jul 17, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote:

 Hey Rich,

 Interact with the drawer. If the drawer isn't visible, press the drawer 
 button in the toolbar. One of the options in
the drawer will say User action menu, button. Press that, and you'll find a 
following status option. Right arrow and press
carriage return on Follow.

 If you don't have a tweet from the person you want to follow in your 
 timeline, You should be able to use cmd+u to go to
a user and follow from there in the same way.
 --
 Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
 Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY



 On Jul 17, 2011, at 12:26 PM, Richard Ring wrote:

 Hello, I have a question about yorufukurou. Does anyone know how to 
 follow and/or unfollow someone? Your help would be
greatly appreciated.

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Re: navigating tables on the web with my new mac

2011-07-19 Thread Ryan Mann
Hello.  You use Control+Option+Left or Right Arrow to move by column.  
You use Control+Option+Up or Down Arrow to move to the previous and 
next row.  To put it another way, you use Control+Option+Left or Right 
Arrow to move left or right and Control+Option+Up or Down Arrow to move 
up or down.

Let me know if you have any questions.
Ryan

Original message:

Good morning all, Angie here, I just got my new beautiful mac book air
on friday, I was, and still am a JAWS user, so the mac is so
different,
now to my question.
How in the world does one navigate tables with VO? What I want to be
able to do is move from cell to cell, up down, left and right, like
you can with JAWS. I've read the help topic on this like 4 times, and
still don't get it!!
Any help would be greatly appreciated .
Thanks in advance!




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John 8 31 and 32
31 Jesus said to the people who believed in him, You are truly my
disciples if you remain faithful to my teachings. 32 And you will know
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Re: adding to libery in the new itunes?

2011-07-19 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
There's a new version of ITunes?  Since when?  It's not prompted me on my end.

Chris.

On Jul 18, 2011, at 8:16 PM, David Tanner wrote:

 Go to the files menu and choose add file to library and follow the prompts. 
 The same goes for adding a folder.  Go to File menu and choose add folder to 
 library.
 
 
 - Original Message - From: trahern culver tecks-...@hotmail.co.uk
 To: MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 5:31 AM
 Subject: adding to libery in the new itunes?
 
 
 hey all how do you add files and folders to the libery in itunes i
 cant feager out how to do it
 
 your help with this question would be most welcom!!
 
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NAS Iomega StorCenter ix2-200

2011-07-19 Thread David Hole
Hi folks.
Has anyone here any experience using this NAS Iomega StorCenter
ix2-200 as a remote harddrive for the iTunes library?
My music library grows monthly, and I need space to store it on.
By now, I have 2 Macs and one Windows computer.
I think I'll go for iTunes as the default music application if there
arn't any better ideas.
Does this sound like a good solution?
If not, do you have good alternatives for this purpose?
-David

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Re: yorufukurou question

2011-07-19 Thread Justin Ekis
Hi richard,

I know what you are referring to. Sometimes you find that a reply has been sent 
to your intended recipient but also to someone else that you weren't expecting. 
I think I've finally figured out why this happens. The problem is that pressing 
the right arrow key runs a command to quickly add other usernames to a reply 
without moving to the edit field. If there is a conversation between many users 
that you wish to reply to, you can press right arrow on each tweet from someone 
in the group, then press enter on the last one to start writing your reply. 
It's very easy to accidentally bump that key while doing other things, so when 
you do begin to write a reply, it has been addressed to one or two random 
people already. This doesn't happen to me as often as it used to. I've just 
learned to read the message once to make sure other usernames aren't in there. 
I think I'll write to the author and request the ability to modify the 
shortcuts, since I think mapping this command to the right arrow was a bad idea.

Hopefully my explanation makes some sense. I'm working off of less than three 
hours of sleep this morning. LOL. Have a good one.

Justin

On Jul 19, 2011, at 3:57 AM, Richard Ring wrote:

Thanks for your help! It worked this time. I guess I didn't understand the 
power of go to user. Now, for a final problem. Whenever I attempt to reply to a 
tweet by pressing enter while focused on a particular tweet, I end up replying 
to a completely different user.  Why is this happening, and is there a way to 
fix it? 
Thanks for any help anyone can give.

On Jul 18, 2011, at 12:27 PM, Zachary Kline wrote:

 Dear Richard,
 Can you not see any tweets by this user, that is, are they protected?  You 
 should be able to go to the table and find a tweet, it doesn't matter which 
 one.  After finding one the drawer should show the user's information.  From 
 there, following should be easy enough.
 Best,
 Zack.
 On Jul 18, 2011, at 10:18 AM, Richard Ring wrote:
 
 Perhaps I should attempt to clarify my question.  I want to follow a Twitter 
 user that I am not following, and whose tweets, therefore, I am not seeing.  
 Here's what I did.  First, I interacted with the toolbar.  I found the 
 drawer button.  I pressed that button.  I stopped interacting.  The item 
 called drawer was then visible on my screen.  I interacted with the 
 drawer and a series of statistics about the user whose tweet I had most 
 recently read appeared.  I found the user action menu.  In this menu is 
 nothing that would me to follow a brand-new user.  I could unfollow the user 
 whose tweet I had most recently read, but there was nothing in that menu 
 that would allow me to set up a new follower.  I then closed that menu, 
 stopped interacting with the drawer and pressed command u.  A dialog box 
 opened.  I interacted with it.  I pressed VO space and a large list of users 
 appeared.  Amazingly enough, I was able to find the user I wanted to follow. 
  I stopped interacting with the combo box, pressed the go to user button.  
 Then, i interacted with the drawer again.  This time, all that showed were a 
 lot of blank statastics for yorufukurou, as if that was the user.  Ther was, 
 no menu button at all.  I am completely at a loss as to how to proceed.
 
 On Jul 17, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
 
 Hey Rich,
 
 Interact with the drawer. If the drawer isn't visible, press the drawer 
 button in the toolbar. One of the options in the drawer will say User 
 action menu, button. Press that, and you'll find a following status 
 option. Right arrow and press carriage return on Follow. 
 
 If you don't have a tweet from the person you want to follow in your 
 timeline, You should be able to use cmd+u to go to a user and follow from 
 there in the same way.
 --
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 Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
 
 
 
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 Hello, I have a question about yorufukurou. Does anyone know how to follow 
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a music question

2011-07-19 Thread carolyn Haas
Hi guys:
I've gotten inspired to try again at ripping my vinyl to computer.  I have some 
really intricate classical pieces, and, though I have severe herring loss, 
others don't,:) so I'd like to get the very best sound quality out of these 
that I can.
The other variable is I'm working with a Griffin iMike.  The only real program 
I'm a little familiar with is Vinyl Studio.  Given those perameters, can anyone 
tell me what kind of file to preserve the music to?  Also, given my 
inexperience with all of this, would I be better off having someone do this 
professionally for me?  I'd really like to get this music down in the best 
possible format.  If I wind up with a cochlear implant, I'll want to have as 
much of the real sound preserved as possible wo work with in remapping how I 
hear music.
Tia for 

Carolynany suggestions.

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READ2Go App Looks good so far

2011-07-19 Thread Kevin Mattingly
I downloaded the bookshare app Read2Go and was able to set it up, search for a 
book and get it reading very quickly. It looks to be a very nice app for 
reading. The costs was $19.99

Kev

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google plus for IOS is here :)

2011-07-19 Thread Christina
Greetings all,

I am still learning Google plus.  On first glance the IOS app is, or at least 
seems to be, much more accessible than through Safari on my mac.  So far, I was 
able to read my stream, read my notifications, see who my friends are in my 
circles and VO also told me which circles those friends are in.  I was then 
able to add one  of my friends to my friends and family circle very easily.  
So far, I'm impressed.  That's all I've tried so far.  I don't have much more 
information but I wanted to get this e-mail quickly so others can try it right 
away if you were not aware that this google plus app is in the US app store.  :)

A note, once you're logged in and set up, the first screen does not seem 
accessible via touch but it is via flicking.  :)

Here's the link to the app in the US store:

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/google/id447119634?mt=8

Have fun,
Christina

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Re: navigating tables on the web with my new mac

2011-07-19 Thread Angie Giltinan
Ok, I tried that, but it didn't work, is there some kind of mode to
put it in first to do this table navigation?
I'm on a web site when I want to navigate these tables.
Thanks!

On 7/19/11, Ryan Mann rmann0...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello.  You use Control+Option+Left or Right Arrow to move by column.
 You use Control+Option+Up or Down Arrow to move to the previous and
 next row.  To put it another way, you use Control+Option+Left or Right
 Arrow to move left or right and Control+Option+Up or Down Arrow to move
 up or down.
 Let me know if you have any questions.
 Ryan

 Original message:
 Good morning all, Angie here, I just got my new beautiful mac book air
 on friday, I was, and still am a JAWS user, so the mac is so
 different,
 now to my question.
 How in the world does one navigate tables with VO? What I want to be
 able to do is move from cell to cell, up down, left and right, like
 you can with JAWS. I've read the help topic on this like 4 times, and
 still don't get it!!
 Any help would be greatly appreciated .
 Thanks in advance!


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Re: google plus for IOS is here :)

2011-07-19 Thread David Hole
Hi.
Sounds like a good beginning.
But it doesn't seem like it is up here in Norway :(
Maybe some of you european people can reply to this when you find it?
I eager to try!
-David

On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 19:29, Christina blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Greetings all,

 I am still learning Google plus.  On first glance the IOS app is, or at least 
 seems to be, much more accessible than through Safari on my mac.  So far, I 
 was able to read my stream, read my notifications, see who my friends are 
 in my circles and VO also told me which circles those friends are in.  I was 
 then able to add one  of my friends to my friends and family circle very 
 easily.  So far, I'm impressed.  That's all I've tried so far.  I don't have 
 much more information but I wanted to get this e-mail quickly so others can 
 try it right away if you were not aware that this google plus app is in the 
 US app store.  :)

 A note, once you're logged in and set up, the first screen does not seem 
 accessible via touch but it is via flicking.  :)

 Here's the link to the app in the US store:

 http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/google/id447119634?mt=8

 Have fun,
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Re: adding to libery in the new itunes?

2011-07-19 Thread Shen
Command-O is the shortcut to add to the iTunes library.
Generally, my iTunes is not very good at alerting me when there is a
new update. But I believe the latest is 10.3.


On 7/19/11, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 There's a new version of ITunes?  Since when?  It's not prompted me on my
 end.

 Chris.

 On Jul 18, 2011, at 8:16 PM, David Tanner wrote:

 Go to the files menu and choose add file to library and follow the
 prompts. The same goes for adding a folder.  Go to File menu and choose
 add folder to library.


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 hey all how do you add files and folders to the libery in itunes i
 cant feager out how to do it

 your help with this question would be most welcom!!

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Re: navigating tables on the web with my new mac

2011-07-19 Thread Kevin Mattingly
If you want to read the full row, you should be able to hit control-option-r 
and it should be read. This is the one area that I feel VO lacks a little in on 
web pages.

Kev
On Jul 19, 2011, at 1:48 PM, Angie Giltinan wrote:

 Ok, I tried that, but it didn't work, is there some kind of mode to
 put it in first to do this table navigation?
 I'm on a web site when I want to navigate these tables.
 Thanks!
 
 On 7/19/11, Ryan Mann rmann0...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello.  You use Control+Option+Left or Right Arrow to move by column.
 You use Control+Option+Up or Down Arrow to move to the previous and
 next row.  To put it another way, you use Control+Option+Left or Right
 Arrow to move left or right and Control+Option+Up or Down Arrow to move
 up or down.
 Let me know if you have any questions.
 Ryan
 
 Original message:
 Good morning all, Angie here, I just got my new beautiful mac book air
 on friday, I was, and still am a JAWS user, so the mac is so
 different,
 now to my question.
 How in the world does one navigate tables with VO? What I want to be
 able to do is move from cell to cell, up down, left and right, like
 you can with JAWS. I've read the help topic on this like 4 times, and
 still don't get it!!
 Any help would be greatly appreciated .
 Thanks in advance!
 
 
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Re: navigating tables on the web with my new mac

2011-07-19 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi ANgie,
Can you clarify a bit what is going on?  What did VO say when this didn't work 
for you?  Table navigation has always worked flawlessly for me, both on the web 
and in the OS in general.
Best,
Zack.
On Jul 19, 2011, at 10:48 AM, Angie Giltinan wrote:

 Ok, I tried that, but it didn't work, is there some kind of mode to
 put it in first to do this table navigation?
 I'm on a web site when I want to navigate these tables.
 Thanks!
 
 On 7/19/11, Ryan Mann rmann0...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello.  You use Control+Option+Left or Right Arrow to move by column.
 You use Control+Option+Up or Down Arrow to move to the previous and
 next row.  To put it another way, you use Control+Option+Left or Right
 Arrow to move left or right and Control+Option+Up or Down Arrow to move
 up or down.
 Let me know if you have any questions.
 Ryan
 
 Original message:
 Good morning all, Angie here, I just got my new beautiful mac book air
 on friday, I was, and still am a JAWS user, so the mac is so
 different,
 now to my question.
 How in the world does one navigate tables with VO? What I want to be
 able to do is move from cell to cell, up down, left and right, like
 you can with JAWS. I've read the help topic on this like 4 times, and
 still don't get it!!
 Any help would be greatly appreciated .
 Thanks in advance!
 
 
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Re: navigating tables on the web with my new mac

2011-07-19 Thread Geoff Shang

On Tue, 19 Jul 2011, Kevin Mattingly wrote:

If you want to read the full row, you should be able to hit 
control-option-r and it should be read. This is the one area that I feel 
VO lacks a little in on web pages.


There are apparently improvements to VoiceOver regarding web pages in 
Lion.  I know there are more shortcut keys available at least.x


Geoff.

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Re: navigating tables on the web with my new mac

2011-07-19 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
OK, two questions:

Is there a way regardless the row in the table that I'm on, to read the column 
header?  Say I had a table with two columns.  City and state.  Now, say I was 
on the second row in that table and was on Charlotte.  Could I while on that 
second row hit something to see the column header, being City, without having 
to vo+up arrow all the way back to the top of the column to see?  Also isn't it 
vo+R to read the entire row in the table?

I know that vo+command+T and shift T move forward and back table by table.  Is 
there anything else neet I need to know I can do in Safari with tables?

Chris.
On Jul 19, 2011, at 1:48 PM, Angie Giltinan wrote:

 Ok, I tried that, but it didn't work, is there some kind of mode to
 put it in first to do this table navigation?
 I'm on a web site when I want to navigate these tables.
 Thanks!
 
 On 7/19/11, Ryan Mann rmann0...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello.  You use Control+Option+Left or Right Arrow to move by column.
 You use Control+Option+Up or Down Arrow to move to the previous and
 next row.  To put it another way, you use Control+Option+Left or Right
 Arrow to move left or right and Control+Option+Up or Down Arrow to move
 up or down.
 Let me know if you have any questions.
 Ryan
 
 Original message:
 Good morning all, Angie here, I just got my new beautiful mac book air
 on friday, I was, and still am a JAWS user, so the mac is so
 different,
 now to my question.
 How in the world does one navigate tables with VO? What I want to be
 able to do is move from cell to cell, up down, left and right, like
 you can with JAWS. I've read the help topic on this like 4 times, and
 still don't get it!!
 Any help would be greatly appreciated .
 Thanks in advance!
 
 
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Re: adding to libery in the new itunes?

2011-07-19 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
As far as I know, 10.3 is what I have, but I'll definitely check.

Chris.

On Jul 19, 2011, at 2:09 PM, Shen wrote:

 Command-O is the shortcut to add to the iTunes library.
 Generally, my iTunes is not very good at alerting me when there is a
 new update. But I believe the latest is 10.3.
 
 
 On 7/19/11, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 There's a new version of ITunes?  Since when?  It's not prompted me on my
 end.
 
 Chris.
 
 On Jul 18, 2011, at 8:16 PM, David Tanner wrote:
 
 Go to the files menu and choose add file to library and follow the
 prompts. The same goes for adding a folder.  Go to File menu and choose
 add folder to library.
 
 
 - Original Message - From: trahern culver
 tecks-...@hotmail.co.uk
 To: MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 5:31 AM
 Subject: adding to libery in the new itunes?
 
 
 hey all how do you add files and folders to the libery in itunes i
 cant feager out how to do it
 
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RE: email folder question

2011-07-19 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Craig,  

Don't be hard on yourself, setting up email clients can be extremely
challenging.  Troubleshooting problems with them can be even worse.  (Smile)


As I understand it, you have created a folder but cannot move items into it.


There are many reasons why this can happen but I will give you, what I
think, is the most likely solution.  

First, assuming that you have enabled iMap from within the gMail web
interface, create additional folders using the web interface rather than the
client.  

Yes, one can create additional iMap folders from within a mail client but,
since you have encountered a problem, create the folder from gMail First.
Now, should you enter your gMail account from within the web interface and
discover that the Folder you created in your client is already there, create
a second folder and see if it appears in the client and then try moving
items into it.  

Mark



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Subject: email folder question

I am sure I am missing something simple!
I have set up a folder in mail to put messages I want to save. but when I
choose move ore copy message the folder I created doesn't show up as a
option I can move the message to.
this is a imap gmail account if that matters.
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Re: google plus for IOS is here :)

2011-07-19 Thread David Hole
Yes, now it's up here in Norway too.
But for those hoping for iPod Touch support (like me), I can sadly say
that it doesn't work right now :(

On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 19:57, David Hole balubathebr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi.
 Sounds like a good beginning.
 But it doesn't seem like it is up here in Norway :(
 Maybe some of you european people can reply to this when you find it?
 I eager to try!
 -David

 On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 19:29, Christina blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Greetings all,

 I am still learning Google plus.  On first glance the IOS app is, or at 
 least seems to be, much more accessible than through Safari on my mac.  So 
 far, I was able to read my stream, read my notifications, see who my 
 friends are in my circles and VO also told me which circles those friends 
 are in.  I was then able to add one  of my friends to my friends and family 
 circle very easily.  So far, I'm impressed.  That's all I've tried so far.  
 I don't have much more information but I wanted to get this e-mail quickly 
 so others can try it right away if you were not aware that this google plus 
 app is in the US app store.  :)

 A note, once you're logged in and set up, the first screen does not seem 
 accessible via touch but it is via flicking.  :)

 Here's the link to the app in the US store:

 http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/google/id447119634?mt=8

 Have fun,
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Re: navigating tables on the web with my new mac

2011-07-19 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Chris,
When in a table, investigate single and double presses of vo-c and vo-r.  Those 
will read you the sorts of information you're requesting, I think.
THe only really clever things I can think of involving tables are for tables in 
OS X in general.  You can use vo-cmd-backslash to move to the parent row of 
something, i.e., in the services table where there are tons of tables with 
collapsable headings.  Similarly, in Mail or indeed a lot of applications, use 
vo-vertical bar to sort a able by a specific column, or twice to reverse the 
sort order.
Hope this helps,
Zack.
On Jul 19, 2011, at 11:43 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

 OK, two questions:
 
 Is there a way regardless the row in the table that I'm on, to read the 
 column header?  Say I had a table with two columns.  City and state.  Now, 
 say I was on the second row in that table and was on Charlotte.  Could I 
 while on that second row hit something to see the column header, being City, 
 without having to vo+up arrow all the way back to the top of the column to 
 see?  Also isn't it vo+R to read the entire row in the table?
 
 I know that vo+command+T and shift T move forward and back table by table.  
 Is there anything else neet I need to know I can do in Safari with tables?
 
 Chris.
 On Jul 19, 2011, at 1:48 PM, Angie Giltinan wrote:
 
 Ok, I tried that, but it didn't work, is there some kind of mode to
 put it in first to do this table navigation?
 I'm on a web site when I want to navigate these tables.
 Thanks!
 
 On 7/19/11, Ryan Mann rmann0...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello.  You use Control+Option+Left or Right Arrow to move by column.
 You use Control+Option+Up or Down Arrow to move to the previous and
 next row.  To put it another way, you use Control+Option+Left or Right
 Arrow to move left or right and Control+Option+Up or Down Arrow to move
 up or down.
 Let me know if you have any questions.
 Ryan
 
 Original message:
 Good morning all, Angie here, I just got my new beautiful mac book air
 on friday, I was, and still am a JAWS user, so the mac is so
 different,
 now to my question.
 How in the world does one navigate tables with VO? What I want to be
 able to do is move from cell to cell, up down, left and right, like
 you can with JAWS. I've read the help topic on this like 4 times, and
 still don't get it!!
 Any help would be greatly appreciated .
 Thanks in advance!
 
 
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Re: navigating tables on the web with my new mac

2011-07-19 Thread Red.Falcon
Hi all!
Well in the vo commands help menu!
Under tables!
There are options to read different things!
VO+c+c will read the column!
VO+shift+t will read column and row numbers!
And there are others, if you want to you can assign each one to one of the 
commanders either numpad,keyboard or even the track pad if you have one!
And just one more thought are you navigating the table with quicknav!
If you are you'll only have to hold the vo keys to read the row I think the up 
and down arrows will work on there own!
hth Colin

On 19 Jul 2011, at 19:43, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

 OK, two questions:
 
 Is there a way regardless the row in the table that I'm on, to read the 
 column header?  Say I had a table with two columns.  City and state.  Now, 
 say I was on the second row in that table and was on Charlotte.  Could I 
 while on that second row hit something to see the column header, being City, 
 without having to vo+up arrow all the way back to the top of the column to 
 see?  Also isn't it vo+R to read the entire row in the table?
 
 I know that vo+command+T and shift T move forward and back table by table.  
 Is there anything else neet I need to know I can do in Safari with tables?
 
 Chris.
 On Jul 19, 2011, at 1:48 PM, Angie Giltinan wrote:
 
 Ok, I tried that, but it didn't work, is there some kind of mode to
 put it in first to do this table navigation?
 I'm on a web site when I want to navigate these tables.
 Thanks!
 
 On 7/19/11, Ryan Mann rmann0...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello.  You use Control+Option+Left or Right Arrow to move by column.
 You use Control+Option+Up or Down Arrow to move to the previous and
 next row.  To put it another way, you use Control+Option+Left or Right
 Arrow to move left or right and Control+Option+Up or Down Arrow to move
 up or down.
 Let me know if you have any questions.
 Ryan
 
 Original message:
 Good morning all, Angie here, I just got my new beautiful mac book air
 on friday, I was, and still am a JAWS user, so the mac is so
 different,
 now to my question.
 How in the world does one navigate tables with VO? What I want to be
 able to do is move from cell to cell, up down, left and right, like
 you can with JAWS. I've read the help topic on this like 4 times, and
 still don't get it!!
 Any help would be greatly appreciated .
 Thanks in advance!
 
 
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RE: NAS Iomega StorCenter ix2-200

2011-07-19 Thread M. Taylor
Hello David,

First, thank you for signing your name at the end of your email; this is
very considerate.

Second, you wrote:
Hi folks.
Has anyone here any experience using this NAS Iomega StorCenter
ix2-200 as a remote harddrive for the iTunes library?
My music library grows monthly, and I need space to store it on.
By now, I have 2 Macs and one Windows computer.
I think I'll go for iTunes as the default music application if there
arn't any better ideas.
Does this sound like a good solution?
If not, do you have good alternatives for this purpose?

Answer:
Dave, I use the iOmega Store Center drives on my home network.  I find them
to be very intuitive to configure and, unlike some competitors, they do not
install or force one to see additional folders on Desktops in an attempt to
make the NAS simpler.  

Caution:  be sure to make backups of your NAS for when a NAS drive goes bad,
it can be almost impossible to recover the data without incurring serious
financial expense.  

I use 3 iOmega Store Center drives on my network and I back each one up on a
USB drive, made by a different company, and store these USB drives off-site.


Also, beware of room temperature when running NAS drives.  Even though many
of these drives are rated to run at what many would consider to be high
temps, I find them more reliable when running in a cooler environment; to
that end, I have a tiny fan that I keep focused on all three of my network
drives.  I got the fan at Target for about $17.

Finally, David, take the time to go through the configuration interfaced of
the drive said interface being completely accessible from within Safari; in
order to familiarize yourself with the drive.  After all, if you're going to
use it as your server source, you need to really understand how it works.

Good Luck,

Mark
 








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To: MacVisionaries
Subject: NAS Iomega StorCenter ix2-200

Hi folks.
Has anyone here any experience using this NAS Iomega StorCenter
ix2-200 as a remote harddrive for the iTunes library?
My music library grows monthly, and I need space to store it on.
By now, I have 2 Macs and one Windows computer.
I think I'll go for iTunes as the default music application if there
arn't any better ideas.
Does this sound like a good solution?
If not, do you have good alternatives for this purpose?
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Re: navigating tables on the web with my new mac

2011-07-19 Thread Angie Giltinan
Ok, I got it to work, now here's another question, is there a way to
read web pages line by line, like with JAWS in windows? sorry to keep
compairing things, it's just the only way I know to explain what I
want.
Thanks loads!

On 7/19/11, Red.Falcon velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com wrote:
 Hi all!
 Well in the vo commands help menu!
 Under tables!
 There are options to read different things!
 VO+c+c will read the column!
 VO+shift+t will read column and row numbers!
 And there are others, if you want to you can assign each one to one of the
 commanders either numpad,keyboard or even the track pad if you have one!
 And just one more thought are you navigating the table with quicknav!
 If you are you'll only have to hold the vo keys to read the row I think the
 up and down arrows will work on there own!
 hth Colin

 On 19 Jul 2011, at 19:43, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

 OK, two questions:

 Is there a way regardless the row in the table that I'm on, to read the
 column header?  Say I had a table with two columns.  City and state.  Now,
 say I was on the second row in that table and was on Charlotte.  Could I
 while on that second row hit something to see the column header, being
 City, without having to vo+up arrow all the way back to the top of the
 column to see?  Also isn't it vo+R to read the entire row in the table?

 I know that vo+command+T and shift T move forward and back table by table.
  Is there anything else neet I need to know I can do in Safari with
 tables?

 Chris.
 On Jul 19, 2011, at 1:48 PM, Angie Giltinan wrote:

 Ok, I tried that, but it didn't work, is there some kind of mode to
 put it in first to do this table navigation?
 I'm on a web site when I want to navigate these tables.
 Thanks!

 On 7/19/11, Ryan Mann rmann0...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello.  You use Control+Option+Left or Right Arrow to move by column.
 You use Control+Option+Up or Down Arrow to move to the previous and
 next row.  To put it another way, you use Control+Option+Left or Right
 Arrow to move left or right and Control+Option+Up or Down Arrow to move
 up or down.
 Let me know if you have any questions.
 Ryan

 Original message:
 Good morning all, Angie here, I just got my new beautiful mac book air
 on friday, I was, and still am a JAWS user, so the mac is so
 different,
 now to my question.
 How in the world does one navigate tables with VO? What I want to be
 able to do is move from cell to cell, up down, left and right, like
 you can with JAWS. I've read the help topic on this like 4 times, and
 still don't get it!!
 Any help would be greatly appreciated .
 Thanks in advance!


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Re: navigating tables on the web with my new mac

2011-07-19 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Let me expand on your comment with Mail.  Right now, it's putting my most 
recent messages at the bottom of my mail list table.  If I want that reversed 
so that the most recent e-mails are at the top, then, how do I do that?

Chris.

On Jul 19, 2011, at 2:51 PM, Zachary Kline wrote:

 Hi Chris,
 When in a table, investigate single and double presses of vo-c and vo-r.  
 Those will read you the sorts of information you're requesting, I think.
 THe only really clever things I can think of involving tables are for tables 
 in OS X in general.  You can use vo-cmd-backslash to move to the parent row 
 of something, i.e., in the services table where there are tons of tables with 
 collapsable headings.  Similarly, in Mail or indeed a lot of applications, 
 use vo-vertical bar to sort a able by a specific column, or twice to reverse 
 the sort order.
 Hope this helps,
 Zack.
 On Jul 19, 2011, at 11:43 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
 
 OK, two questions:
 
 Is there a way regardless the row in the table that I'm on, to read the 
 column header?  Say I had a table with two columns.  City and state.  Now, 
 say I was on the second row in that table and was on Charlotte.  Could I 
 while on that second row hit something to see the column header, being City, 
 without having to vo+up arrow all the way back to the top of the column to 
 see?  Also isn't it vo+R to read the entire row in the table?
 
 I know that vo+command+T and shift T move forward and back table by table.  
 Is there anything else neet I need to know I can do in Safari with tables?
 
 Chris.
 On Jul 19, 2011, at 1:48 PM, Angie Giltinan wrote:
 
 Ok, I tried that, but it didn't work, is there some kind of mode to
 put it in first to do this table navigation?
 I'm on a web site when I want to navigate these tables.
 Thanks!
 
 On 7/19/11, Ryan Mann rmann0...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello.  You use Control+Option+Left or Right Arrow to move by column.
 You use Control+Option+Up or Down Arrow to move to the previous and
 next row.  To put it another way, you use Control+Option+Left or Right
 Arrow to move left or right and Control+Option+Up or Down Arrow to move
 up or down.
 Let me know if you have any questions.
 Ryan
 
 Original message:
 Good morning all, Angie here, I just got my new beautiful mac book air
 on friday, I was, and still am a JAWS user, so the mac is so
 different,
 now to my question.
 How in the world does one navigate tables with VO? What I want to be
 able to do is move from cell to cell, up down, left and right, like
 you can with JAWS. I've read the help topic on this like 4 times, and
 still don't get it!!
 Any help would be greatly appreciated .
 Thanks in advance!
 
 
 --
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Re: navigating tables on the web with my new mac

2011-07-19 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Chris,
In that case, move over to the date received column and press vo-vertical bar 
one time.  It should say sort down, Date, and you will magically find your 
messages sorted in reverse chronological order.  Repeat this to reverse the 
sort.
Hope this helps,
Zack.
On Jul 19, 2011, at 12:56 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

 Let me expand on your comment with Mail.  Right now, it's putting my most 
 recent messages at the bottom of my mail list table.  If I want that reversed 
 so that the most recent e-mails are at the top, then, how do I do that?
 
 Chris.
 
 On Jul 19, 2011, at 2:51 PM, Zachary Kline wrote:
 
 Hi Chris,
 When in a table, investigate single and double presses of vo-c and vo-r.  
 Those will read you the sorts of information you're requesting, I think.
 THe only really clever things I can think of involving tables are for tables 
 in OS X in general.  You can use vo-cmd-backslash to move to the parent row 
 of something, i.e., in the services table where there are tons of tables 
 with collapsable headings.  Similarly, in Mail or indeed a lot of 
 applications, use vo-vertical bar to sort a able by a specific column, or 
 twice to reverse the sort order.
 Hope this helps,
 Zack.
 On Jul 19, 2011, at 11:43 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
 
 OK, two questions:
 
 Is there a way regardless the row in the table that I'm on, to read the 
 column header?  Say I had a table with two columns.  City and state.  Now, 
 say I was on the second row in that table and was on Charlotte.  Could I 
 while on that second row hit something to see the column header, being 
 City, without having to vo+up arrow all the way back to the top of the 
 column to see?  Also isn't it vo+R to read the entire row in the table?
 
 I know that vo+command+T and shift T move forward and back table by table.  
 Is there anything else neet I need to know I can do in Safari with tables?
 
 Chris.
 On Jul 19, 2011, at 1:48 PM, Angie Giltinan wrote:
 
 Ok, I tried that, but it didn't work, is there some kind of mode to
 put it in first to do this table navigation?
 I'm on a web site when I want to navigate these tables.
 Thanks!
 
 On 7/19/11, Ryan Mann rmann0...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello.  You use Control+Option+Left or Right Arrow to move by column.
 You use Control+Option+Up or Down Arrow to move to the previous and
 next row.  To put it another way, you use Control+Option+Left or Right
 Arrow to move left or right and Control+Option+Up or Down Arrow to move
 up or down.
 Let me know if you have any questions.
 Ryan
 
 Original message:
 Good morning all, Angie here, I just got my new beautiful mac book air
 on friday, I was, and still am a JAWS user, so the mac is so
 different,
 now to my question.
 How in the world does one navigate tables with VO? What I want to be
 able to do is move from cell to cell, up down, left and right, like
 you can with JAWS. I've read the help topic on this like 4 times, and
 still don't get it!!
 Any help would be greatly appreciated .
 Thanks in advance!
 
 
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Re: navigating tables on the web with my new mac

2011-07-19 Thread Red.Falcon
Hi Angie!
Well that is one of things you'll have to see which way you would prefer!
You can just use vo+down arrow for the next line or up for the previous!
But with quick nav [ to start quicknav press the left and right arrows down at 
the same time! vo will say quick nav on or off ]
Then all you'll have to do is use the down arrow or up!
So just think of quick nav as using the arrows without having to hold the vo 
keys and quick nav helps some people on web sites!
There is also a command to read the current sentence! vo+l
hth Colin

On 19 Jul 2011, at 20:28, Angie Giltinan wrote:

 Ok, I got it to work, now here's another question, is there a way to
 read web pages line by line, like with JAWS in windows? sorry to keep
 comparing things, it's just the only way I know to explain what I
 want.
 Thanks loads!
 
 On 7/19/11, Red.Falcon velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com wrote:
 Hi all!
 Well in the vo commands help menu!
 Under tables!
 There are options to read different things!
 VO+c+c will read the column!
 VO+shift+t will read column and row numbers!
 And there are others, if you want to you can assign each one to one of the
 commanders either numpad,keyboard or even the track pad if you have one!
 And just one more thought are you navigating the table with quicknav!
 If you are you'll only have to hold the vo keys to read the row I think the
 up and down arrows will work on there own!
 hth Colin
 
 On 19 Jul 2011, at 19:43, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
 
 OK, two questions:
 
 Is there a way regardless the row in the table that I'm on, to read the
 column header?  Say I had a table with two columns.  City and state.  Now,
 say I was on the second row in that table and was on Charlotte.  Could I
 while on that second row hit something to see the column header, being
 City, without having to vo+up arrow all the way back to the top of the
 column to see?  Also isn't it vo+R to read the entire row in the table?
 
 I know that vo+command+T and shift T move forward and back table by table.
 Is there anything else neet I need to know I can do in Safari with
 tables?
 
 Chris.
 On Jul 19, 2011, at 1:48 PM, Angie Giltinan wrote:
 
 Ok, I tried that, but it didn't work, is there some kind of mode to
 put it in first to do this table navigation?
 I'm on a web site when I want to navigate these tables.
 Thanks!
 
 On 7/19/11, Ryan Mann rmann0...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello.  You use Control+Option+Left or Right Arrow to move by column.
 You use Control+Option+Up or Down Arrow to move to the previous and
 next row.  To put it another way, you use Control+Option+Left or Right
 Arrow to move left or right and Control+Option+Up or Down Arrow to move
 up or down.
 Let me know if you have any questions.
 Ryan
 
 Original message:
 Good morning all, Angie here, I just got my new beautiful mac book air
 on friday, I was, and still am a JAWS user, so the mac is so
 different,
 now to my question.
 How in the world does one navigate tables with VO? What I want to be
 able to do is move from cell to cell, up down, left and right, like
 you can with JAWS. I've read the help topic on this like 4 times, and
 still don't get it!!
 Any help would be greatly appreciated .
 Thanks in advance!
 
 
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Re: a music question

2011-07-19 Thread Geoff Shang

Hi Carolyn,

If you really want to get the best result you possibly can and you are not 
completely confident in doing it yourself, you may want to get a 
professional to do it.


I've not done work like this with LPs, but I have with cassettes and it 
can be fairly exacting work if you want to do a good job with it.  Each 
recording may require its own particular tweeking to get the best results.


However, I've also heard stories about people who have had this sort of 
work done by people they've paid and been unhappy with the results.


Given this, you may want to get someone to do one piece and see what you 
and those you trust think about the work before getting them to do any 
more.  This way, if you actually don't like it, you've only paid for a bit 
and not the whole lot to be done.


HTH,
Geoff.

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Re: NAS Iomega StorCenter ix2-200

2011-07-19 Thread David Hole
Kind regards, dude!
Then I'll get it maybe tomorro!
-David

On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 21:06, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 Hello David,

 First, thank you for signing your name at the end of your email; this is
 very considerate.

 Second, you wrote:
 Hi folks.
 Has anyone here any experience using this NAS Iomega StorCenter
 ix2-200 as a remote harddrive for the iTunes library?
 My music library grows monthly, and I need space to store it on.
 By now, I have 2 Macs and one Windows computer.
 I think I'll go for iTunes as the default music application if there
 arn't any better ideas.
 Does this sound like a good solution?
 If not, do you have good alternatives for this purpose?

 Answer:
 Dave, I use the iOmega Store Center drives on my home network.  I find them
 to be very intuitive to configure and, unlike some competitors, they do not
 install or force one to see additional folders on Desktops in an attempt to
 make the NAS simpler.

 Caution:  be sure to make backups of your NAS for when a NAS drive goes bad,
 it can be almost impossible to recover the data without incurring serious
 financial expense.

 I use 3 iOmega Store Center drives on my network and I back each one up on a
 USB drive, made by a different company, and store these USB drives off-site.


 Also, beware of room temperature when running NAS drives.  Even though many
 of these drives are rated to run at what many would consider to be high
 temps, I find them more reliable when running in a cooler environment; to
 that end, I have a tiny fan that I keep focused on all three of my network
 drives.  I got the fan at Target for about $17.

 Finally, David, take the time to go through the configuration interfaced of
 the drive said interface being completely accessible from within Safari; in
 order to familiarize yourself with the drive.  After all, if you're going to
 use it as your server source, you need to really understand how it works.

 Good Luck,

 Mark









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 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Hole
 Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 6:27 AM
 To: MacVisionaries
 Subject: NAS Iomega StorCenter ix2-200

 Hi folks.
 Has anyone here any experience using this NAS Iomega StorCenter
 ix2-200 as a remote harddrive for the iTunes library?
 My music library grows monthly, and I need space to store it on.
 By now, I have 2 Macs and one Windows computer.
 I think I'll go for iTunes as the default music application if there
 arn't any better ideas.
 Does this sound like a good solution?
 If not, do you have good alternatives for this purpose?
 -David

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Re: navigating tables on the web with my new mac

2011-07-19 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Correction,

Vo+L reads the current line.  Vo+S reaeds the current sentence.

Chris.

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From: Red.Falcon velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: navigating tables on the web with my new mac



Hi Angie!
Well that is one of things you'll have to see which way you would prefer!
You can just use vo+down arrow for the next line or up for the previous!
But with quick nav [ to start quicknav press the left and right arrows 
down at the same time! vo will say quick nav on or off ]

Then all you'll have to do is use the down arrow or up!
So just think of quick nav as using the arrows without having to hold the 
vo keys and quick nav helps some people on web sites!

There is also a command to read the current sentence! vo+l
hth Colin

On 19 Jul 2011, at 20:28, Angie Giltinan wrote:


Ok, I got it to work, now here's another question, is there a way to
read web pages line by line, like with JAWS in windows? sorry to keep
comparing things, it's just the only way I know to explain what I
want.
Thanks loads!

On 7/19/11, Red.Falcon velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com wrote:

Hi all!
Well in the vo commands help menu!
Under tables!
There are options to read different things!
VO+c+c will read the column!
VO+shift+t will read column and row numbers!
And there are others, if you want to you can assign each one to one of 
the

commanders either numpad,keyboard or even the track pad if you have one!
And just one more thought are you navigating the table with quicknav!
If you are you'll only have to hold the vo keys to read the row I think 
the

up and down arrows will work on there own!
hth Colin

On 19 Jul 2011, at 19:43, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:


OK, two questions:

Is there a way regardless the row in the table that I'm on, to read the
column header?  Say I had a table with two columns.  City and state. 
Now,
say I was on the second row in that table and was on Charlotte.  Could 
I

while on that second row hit something to see the column header, being
City, without having to vo+up arrow all the way back to the top of the
column to see?  Also isn't it vo+R to read the entire row in the table?

I know that vo+command+T and shift T move forward and back table by 
table.

Is there anything else neet I need to know I can do in Safari with
tables?

Chris.
On Jul 19, 2011, at 1:48 PM, Angie Giltinan wrote:


Ok, I tried that, but it didn't work, is there some kind of mode to
put it in first to do this table navigation?
I'm on a web site when I want to navigate these tables.
Thanks!

On 7/19/11, Ryan Mann rmann0...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello.  You use Control+Option+Left or Right Arrow to move by column.
You use Control+Option+Up or Down Arrow to move to the previous and
next row.  To put it another way, you use Control+Option+Left or 
Right
Arrow to move left or right and Control+Option+Up or Down Arrow to 
move

up or down.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Ryan

Original message:
Good morning all, Angie here, I just got my new beautiful mac book 
air

on friday, I was, and still am a JAWS user, so the mac is so
different,
now to my question.
How in the world does one navigate tables with VO? What I want to be
able to do is move from cell to cell, up down, left and right, like
you can with JAWS. I've read the help topic on this like 4 times, 
and

still don't get it!!
Any help would be greatly appreciated .
Thanks in advance!




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know

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Re: A question about reading subtitling with VO

2011-07-19 Thread Jorge Fernandes
Seems me you right, Chris.

But maybe the wrong isn't the way that Google implement the caption
but how Apple implement the hotspots. I'll send to Apple our
discussion, to see if it is possible to do something or to give us
more information about how to use the hotspot.

Another option, if VisioVoice (from AssistiveWare) read the srt or txt
file [1] respecting the timetables (we coded in this files) it will be
possible to produce one audio file to syncronised with our movie. Is
not the same, but maybe works...

Thanks,
Jorge

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[1] typical file format with captions to syncronized with a movie.

[00:00:09.36]

Bom dia !

[00:00:11.00]

[00:00:11.92]

Antes de iniciar a minha comunicação queria agradecer a vossa presença

[00:00:15.64]

[00:00:16.00]

uma vez que temos o privilégio, enquanto Centro de Recursos de
Inclusão Digital,

[00:00:21.84]

On Jul 13, 8:24 pm, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:
 Seems like hotspots would do the trick but I couldn't get it to work.
 Under the hood there is a span with a class of captions-text which I
 assume is where my hotspot is attached when I set one. But when the next
 caption is inserted, instead of updating the text inside that span the
 entire span is destroyed and re-created. I'm guessing this breaks the
 hotspot assignment. This seems to be the case because just after the
 text changes doing a VO-command-1 (for the #1 hotspot I had assigned)
 say Hot spot no longer exists. This is one of those cases where not
 doing the right thing under the hood has negative conseques for
 assistive technology. I've seen similar things with web-based chat
 clients that redrew the entire chat roll rather than append one new
 item, causing AT to read the entire conversation every time. Not sure
 how to get that fixed. Probably considered an edge case since most VO
 users wouldn't want to hear the captions in addition to the audio.

 CB

 On 7/13/11 5:45 AM, Jorge Fernandes wrote:







  Hi,

  Since the launched of Youtube videos in HTML5 that it is possible to
  control all the buttons of the video interfaces with VoiceOver. I also
  noted that it is possible to read the subtitles, but I need
  continuosly press VO+left arrow VO+right arrow to positioning the
  cursor under the subtitles. VoiceOver read 1 subtitle and then stop,
  either when a new subtitle is already on the screen. I need
  continuously to jump to line before and then back to, current line to
  make VO read the subtitle.

  Is it possible we configure the VoiceOver to permanently read the
  subtitles in sequence, when they appear on screen? Something like a
  monitoring an HotSpot and when something new appear in that position
  read it?

  Thanks,
  Jorge Fernandes

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Lion being released tomorrow july 20th

2011-07-19 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi guys,

Apple announced today in their 3rd quarter earnings call that Lion will be 
available in the Mac app store tomorrow, July 20th.

hth

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bluetooth keyboard question

2011-07-19 Thread craig J Dunlop
I am not sure if this is off post.
has anyone successfully used the Freedom Pro Bluetooth Portable Folding 
Keyboard for Apple iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4, iPad/iPad 2, Windows Mobile, 
Blackberry, BlackBerry PlayBook, Android, Symbian
with a ios device?
I am having no luck pairing it with my iPhone 4. it paired once then later said 
device not supported.
thanks for any Ideas!
Craig 

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Re: navigating tables on the web with my new mac

2011-07-19 Thread Red.Falcon
Hi Chris!
Well my brain said [line] but my fingers typed [sentence]
Oh well there you go! hahahahahaha
Thanks for the correction!
Colin

On 19 Jul 2011, at 22:18, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

 Correction,
 
 Vo+L reads the current line.  Vo+S reads the current sentence.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Red.Falcon 
 velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 4:16 PM
 Subject: Re: navigating tables on the web with my new mac
 
 
 Hi Angie!
 Well that is one of things you'll have to see which way you would prefer!
 You can just use vo+down arrow for the next line or up for the previous!
 But with quick nav [ to start quicknav press the left and right arrows down 
 at the same time! vo will say quick nav on or off ]
 Then all you'll have to do is use the down arrow or up!
 So just think of quick nav as using the arrows without having to hold the vo 
 keys and quick nav helps some people on web sites!
 There is also a command to read the current sentence! vo+l
 hth Colin
 
 On 19 Jul 2011, at 20:28, Angie Giltinan wrote:
 
 Ok, I got it to work, now here's another question, is there a way to
 read web pages line by line, like with JAWS in windows? sorry to keep
 comparing things, it's just the only way I know to explain what I
 want.
 Thanks loads!
 
 On 7/19/11, Red.Falcon velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com wrote:
 Hi all!
 Well in the vo commands help menu!
 Under tables!
 There are options to read different things!
 VO+c+c will read the column!
 VO+shift+t will read column and row numbers!
 And there are others, if you want to you can assign each one to one of the
 commanders either numpad,keyboard or even the track pad if you have one!
 And just one more thought are you navigating the table with quicknav!
 If you are you'll only have to hold the vo keys to read the row I think the
 up and down arrows will work on there own!
 hth Colin
 
 On 19 Jul 2011, at 19:43, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
 
 OK, two questions:
 
 Is there a way regardless the row in the table that I'm on, to read the
 column header?  Say I had a table with two columns.  City and state. Now,
 say I was on the second row in that table and was on Charlotte.  Could I
 while on that second row hit something to see the column header, being
 City, without having to vo+up arrow all the way back to the top of the
 column to see?  Also isn't it vo+R to read the entire row in the table?
 
 I know that vo+command+T and shift T move forward and back table by table.
 Is there anything else neet I need to know I can do in Safari with
 tables?
 
 Chris.
 On Jul 19, 2011, at 1:48 PM, Angie Giltinan wrote:
 
 Ok, I tried that, but it didn't work, is there some kind of mode to
 put it in first to do this table navigation?
 I'm on a web site when I want to navigate these tables.
 Thanks!
 
 On 7/19/11, Ryan Mann rmann0...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello.  You use Control+Option+Left or Right Arrow to move by column.
 You use Control+Option+Up or Down Arrow to move to the previous and
 next row.  To put it another way, you use Control+Option+Left or Right
 Arrow to move left or right and Control+Option+Up or Down Arrow to move
 up or down.
 Let me know if you have any questions.
 Ryan
 
 Original message:
 Good morning all, Angie here, I just got my new beautiful mac book air
 on friday, I was, and still am a JAWS user, so the mac is so
 different,
 now to my question.
 How in the world does one navigate tables with VO? What I want to be
 able to do is move from cell to cell, up down, left and right, like
 you can with JAWS. I've read the help topic on this like 4 times, and
 still don't get it!!
 Any help would be greatly appreciated .
 Thanks in advance!
 
 
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 31 Jesus said to the people who believed in him, You are truly my
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Re: Lion being released tomorrow july 20th

2011-07-19 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Do we know around what time?

Chris.

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To: Macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Cc: Mobile Access Access c...@mobileaccess.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 5:57 PM
Subject: Lion being released tomorrow july 20th



Hi guys,

Apple announced today in their 3rd quarter earnings call that Lion will be 
available in the Mac app store tomorrow, July 20th.


hth

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Re: Lion being released tomorrow july 20th

2011-07-19 Thread Ricardo Walker
I don't believe that was said in the call.  I assume 10 AM PDT, 1PM EDT.  This 
is when such updates are usually pushed out.

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On Jul 19, 2011, at 6:10 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

 Do we know around what time?
 
 Chris.
 
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 To: Macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Cc: Mobile Access Access c...@mobileaccess.org
 Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 5:57 PM
 Subject: Lion being released tomorrow july 20th
 
 
 Hi guys,
 
 Apple announced today in their 3rd quarter earnings call that Lion will be 
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IMap weather radio app question

2011-07-19 Thread Ed Worrell
Hello Listers, I just downloaded the IMap weather radio app. Does the app have 
to be running in the background, or does it just work after I set up my 
location and alerts that I would like to be pushed to my phone? I am using the 
app on the iphone 4 if that makes a difference.

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Re: IMap weather radio app question

2011-07-19 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

No.  The app doesn't have to be running in the background.

hth

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 Hello Listers, I just downloaded the IMap weather radio app. Does the app 
 have to be running in the background, or does it just work after I set up my 
 location and alerts that I would like to be pushed to my phone? I am using 
 the app on the iphone 4 if that makes a difference.
 
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Re: Lion being released tomorrow july 20th

2011-07-19 Thread Andre Nuno Soares
Hello,

For those of us who like to cross check our sources :-)
http://www.macworld.com/article/161215/2011/07/lion_ships_wednesday.html


Cheers,
André

On Jul 19, 2011, at 11:14 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

 I don't believe that was said in the call.  I assume 10 AM PDT, 1PM EDT.  
 This is when such updates are usually pushed out.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype,  AIM: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 
 
 On Jul 19, 2011, at 6:10 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
 
 Do we know around what time?
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com
 To: Macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Cc: Mobile Access Access c...@mobileaccess.org
 Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 5:57 PM
 Subject: Lion being released tomorrow july 20th
 
 
 Hi guys,
 
 Apple announced today in their 3rd quarter earnings call that Lion will be 
 available in the Mac app store tomorrow, July 20th.
 
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Fundamental Mail question

2011-07-19 Thread Richard Ring
Hello:
I want to create some rules for my unruly mailbox.  However, the only menu item 
I can find that makes reference to rules is one in the messages menu that is 
labeled apply rule.  Well, that is the problem.  I don't know how to make a 
rule, so of course, I can't apply one!!
Help!

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Re: Fundamental Mail question

2011-07-19 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi Richard,

To set rules in Mail:

1.  Press cmd-comma to bring up the Preferences window.
2.  Interact with the toolbar.
3.  Navigate right to the Rules tab and press it.
4.  Navigate right to the Add Rule button.
5.  Give the Rule a name.
6.  Set the criteria in whatever manner you wish.
7.  Set the Action if the criteria is met.
8.  Press OK.
9.  close the Preferences window.

That should do it for you.

Later...

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 Hello:
 I want to create some rules for my unruly mailbox.  However, the only menu 
 item I can find that makes reference to rules is one in the messages menu 
 that is labeled apply rule.  Well, that is the problem.  I don't know how 
 to make a rule, so of course, I can't apply one!!
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Re: Fundamental Mail question

2011-07-19 Thread Scott Howell
Richard,

You setup rules from within preferences. Access preferences via command-comma 
and once you open preferences interact with the toolbar and you will find rules 
there.
hth,

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Re: Fundamental Mail question

2011-07-19 Thread matthew Dyer
Hi There.

To create a new role n mail, use command , to go the mail prefrence and select 
the roles tab and select add role and follow the promts.  HTH.

Mathew

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 to make a rule, so of course, I can't apply one!!
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Google Plus Website With VO?

2011-07-19 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, all,

I'm noticing something disconcerting about Google Plus contacts. They seem to 
be listed only as numbers as far as the tags on images are concerned. Has 
anyone else experienced this?

Thanks,
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Re: Lion being released tomorrow july 20th

2011-07-19 Thread Courtney Curran
Hi,
According to some articles on http://www.macrumors.com, it will be released 
probably around 8:30. AM Eastern.  I saw that in one of their articles that 
apple usually releases major software around that time. I don't know how true 
that is, but hey, I'm just telling you what I know, :)
Courtney
On Jul 19, 2011, at 6:10 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

 Do we know around what time?
 
 Chris.
 
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 Subject: Lion being released tomorrow july 20th
 
 
 Hi guys,
 
 Apple announced today in their 3rd quarter earnings call that Lion will be 
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Re: Fundamental Mail question

2011-07-19 Thread Richard Ring
Thanks so much for such an informative and detailed response!

On Jul 19, 2011, at 6:00 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

 Hi Richard,
 
 To set rules in Mail:
 
 1.  Press cmd-comma to bring up the Preferences window.
 2.  Interact with the toolbar.
 3.  Navigate right to the Rules tab and press it.
 4.  Navigate right to the Add Rule button.
 5.  Give the Rule a name.
 6.  Set the criteria in whatever manner you wish.
 7.  Set the Action if the criteria is met.
 8.  Press OK.
 9.  close the Preferences window.
 
 That should do it for you.
 
 Later...
 
 On 2011-07-19, at 4:46 PM, Richard Ring wrote:
 
 Hello:
 I want to create some rules for my unruly mailbox.  However, the only menu 
 item I can find that makes reference to rules is one in the messages menu 
 that is labeled apply rule.  Well, that is the problem.  I don't know how 
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Re: email folder question

2011-07-19 Thread craig J Dunlop
how do I create a folder on gmail? I have always done this 3rd party pop 
before. here you are again helping me with stuff! first with mobile speak and 
then iPhone and now mac! thanks so much for sharing.


On Jul 19, 2011, at 1:45 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

 Hello Craig,  
 
 Don't be hard on yourself, setting up email clients can be extremely
 challenging.  Troubleshooting problems with them can be even worse.  (Smile)
 
 
 As I understand it, you have created a folder but cannot move items into it.
 
 
 There are many reasons why this can happen but I will give you, what I
 think, is the most likely solution.  
 
 First, assuming that you have enabled iMap from within the gMail web
 interface, create additional folders using the web interface rather than the
 client.  
 
 Yes, one can create additional iMap folders from within a mail client but,
 since you have encountered a problem, create the folder from gMail First.
 Now, should you enter your gMail account from within the web interface and
 discover that the Folder you created in your client is already there, create
 a second folder and see if it appears in the client and then try moving
 items into it.  
 
 Mark
 
 
 
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 [mail to:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of craig J Dunlop
 Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 3:50 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: email folder question
 
 I am sure I am missing something simple!
 I have set up a folder in mail to put messages I want to save. but when I
 choose move ore copy message the folder I created doesn't show up as a
 option I can move the message to.
 this is a imap gmail account if that matters.
 thanks for any help.
 
 
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Re: Lion being released tomorrow july 20th

2011-07-19 Thread Georges Zaynoun
How does one do to download it from the mac app store?  I have used the 
store on my ipad and ipod touch but not on the mac, maybe I did it once.

Original message:

Do we know around what time?



Chris.



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Hi guys,



Apple announced today in their 3rd quarter earnings call that Lion will be
available in the Mac app store tomorrow, July 20th.



hth



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right clicking?

2011-07-19 Thread KliphSharrie
Hello, how do you right click with VO?

 

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Re: right clicking?

2011-07-19 Thread Brandon Olivares
Hi,

I think VO+Shift+M is the best way.

Brandon

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Sephari Bookmarks Question.

2011-07-19 Thread Phantom.Vader
Hi people!

I've been meaning to ask about this for ages now.  Back when I first
started using Sephari, I set up bookmarks folders so I could organize
my bookmarks list and keep it from getting unruly.  But the folders
I'd created don't show up in my bookmarks menu or bar, nor anywhere
else that I can find for that matter!  So, although I can create them
and add things to them, I can't access my folders or the links I've
put in them once they've been created!  So, can some one please tell
me what I'm not doing right?

Thanks, as I'd really like to get my bookmarks list tidied up so I can
find stuff more easily!


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Re: right clicking?

2011-07-19 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi,
You can also do what a sighted person would and hit ctrl while tapping the 
trackpad or mouse button.  I do this occasionally and it seems to work, along 
with option-clicking, which is sometimes necessary.
Hope this helps,
Zack.
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 I think VO+Shift+M is the best way.
 
 Brandon
 
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a voiceover stuttering issue in mail.app

2011-07-19 Thread Eric Oyen
ok,
I am not sure what changed in the last week but it is starting to drive me up a 
wall. my voiceover started stuttering or sometimes stopping and repeating the 
mail headers pane. it only happens in the headers pane, not in the message pane 
and not anywhere else. I have already attempted to reset my voiceover 
preferences only to have the same problem show up again immediately.

the only thing left is to erase the mail settings folder. However, I don't want 
to lose any emails from the 2 pop accounts I have (my google accounts are 
imap). I also don't want to lose the information I have for username/password, 
port, authentication, etc if I can avoid it.

lastly, I am still on 10.6.4. I have had problems with the 10.6.6 and above 
updates that causes my machine to become inaccessible (usb port driver issues). 
I really wish I had the funding to replace this aging desktop unit with a newer 
macbook pro.

-Eric

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Bootables.

2011-07-19 Thread Georges Zaynoun

Hi!

How do I make a bootable floppy/flash drive/external hard disk with the mac?


Thanks.

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itunes billing question

2011-07-19 Thread chad baker
hi i'm trying to pay my balance off in the itunes store but not accessible
it said i have errors and all my credit car info is correct
how do you view your balance
thanks

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