Wouldn't downloading El Capitan through Torrent void any software updates it
may have in the future?
Shawn
Sent from my White MacBook
On Jun 13, 2015, at 4:57 PM, Shaf shafpa...@gmail.com wrote:
No, but you can torrent the current beta from your favorite site for free.
On 6/13/2015
And, if I find anyone doing this, they'll be reported, case closed.
Chris.
- Original Message -
From: Shaf
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: el capitan
No, but you can torrent the current beta from your favorite site
Christopher-Mark -
Have you caught anybody yet and reported them? If I received information that
someone had downloaded a torrent of the beta version of the operating system
and subsequently installed it, how would I go about reporting it? Any help you
can give me is truly appreciated as I
Greetings.
I’m trying to get a VM spun up with Fusion and JAWS. I’m loath to use an ILM
authorization (I shall leave my editorial comments on what I make of their
authorization scheme for another time), so I’m using a hardware dongle from a
prior life wherein I worked on the team that
To the best of my knowledge, Chris, yes. This is the first time. I'm a
little curious though. Why did you sign up for the public beta, if you're a
dev? Isn't that somewhat redundant?
Chris.
- Original Message -
From: christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com
To:
Hi there,
I’ve got an 11 Inch Mid 2013 Macbook air, and I’ve got a set of speakers
plugged in to the headphone jack that I normally use for computer sound. I
also have a very nice hi-fi receiver that I’d like to use. Is it possible that
I would be able to pipe the voiceover sound though the
Hold down your control key while clicking your mouse/trackpad.
Chris.
- Original Message -
From: Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: uninstalling system prefs pain
Hi!
Sorry if i ask something
I might also point out that if you have a nice receiver you might want
to connect it using something other than blue tooth. Your Mac has
optical audio outputs so you can use that for very high quality digital
audio to most receivers which have optical inputs. Of course that still
leaves you in
Hi,
If you had either an Airport Express or an Apple TV, this would be very easily
accomplished. You can stream music to both those devices independent of the
sound coming through either the internal speakers or the headphone jack. I, at
times, am doing work on my computer and have iTunes
Hi,
Where are some good resources on this topic to help VI’s to understand how to
program this type of stuff?
On 14 Jun 2015, at 8:44 am, Jonathan C. Cohn jon.c.c...@gmail.com wrote:
It is also possible to script in javascript using the scripteditor. I believe
that perl also has ways of
No.
On Jun 13, 2015, at 9:13 PM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
Wouldn't downloading El Capitan through Torrent void any software updates it
may have in the future?
Shawn
Sent from my White MacBook
On Jun 13, 2015, at 4:57 PM, Shaf shafpa...@gmail.com
Hi. Just in case you may be interested, I've got a near mint fifteen
inch retina mac book pro for sale with eight gigs of ram, solid state
hard drive, and quad core I7 processor. Feel free to shoot me a
message off list if that may interest you. Thanks.
Cameron.
On 6/13/15, Tim Kilburn
I dono, but the bottom line is that's illegal, and being I'm a dev, I'm legally
obligated to reporting anyone who I catch doing this. Normally, I'm not so
prideful nor strict with things like this, however, Apple is one of the very
few things I will *not!* bend this policy on under any
Open voiceover utility, go to sound, and choose built-in output as the output
device.
All voiceover speech and sounds should now go through the built-in sound
hardware while everything else goes through the bluetooth.
On Jun 13, 2015, at 10:57 PM, Justin Mann w9...@me.com wrote:
Hi there,
Hi. I tried that twice last night, with no success each time. 8.3 would restore
back to my phone, but iTunes refused to restore the backup saying the software
on the phone was too old. Any tips on what I might be doing wrong? Or if I
might be potentially screwed? One backup was before I put
So why do you have to ust that language does it make you some kind of a man???
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 04:54
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Bull crap about
In that case, I guess I’m screwed then, even though I thought one of my iTunes
backups was made right before I put 9 on, but I guess not.
On Jun 13, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com
wrote:
They don't take versions into account, unless you're trying to restore
Have just thus downloaded the iOS update file.
Earlier in the day I backed up my device to my Mac via way of connecting
through the Lightning cable.
When it’s a civilised time instead of 12:23 AM in the morning I’ll commence
with updating the iPhone 6 to iOS 9.
A pleasant day to all.
Honestly,
They need to be more clear at how they word that then, as the way they make
it sound is, you literally! cannot downgrade, period. Once it's on I O S 9,
that's it. No turning back, regardless.
Chris.
- Original Message -
From: Buddy Brannan bu...@brannan.name
To:
They don't take versions into account, unless you're trying to restore one I O
S device to a different type device. IE, you can't restore your settings from
an IPhone on to an IPad. Trust me, I should know. I tried. Further, if the
backup was made with a newer version of I O S than you're
Oh, never mind, I’m not screwed, I forgot about beta 4 of 8.4. lol sorry for
the confusion.
On Jun 13, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com
wrote:
They don't take versions into account, unless you're trying to restore one I
O S device to a different type
Hi,
Specifically, in Messages, go under the Edit menu, to the Spelling Grammar
item, right to the sub-menu and uncheck the items affecting you. Probably the
Check Spelling while Typing and Correct Spelling Automatically.
Later...
Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Jun 13, 2015, at
Wow, that's amazing. I think the Mac just needs more developers and it'll be
perfect.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 13, 2015, at 1:40 AM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com
wrote:
Hi all
I am currently running the beta of OS X 10.11 El Capitan, however in the last
hour I
I think you will be pleasantly surprised when El Capitan is released in at
least public beta form.
On 13 Jun 2015, at 08:02, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
Wow, that's amazing. I think the Mac just needs more developers and it'll be
perfect.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 13, 2015,
Well it works great, and there are bugs, but these won't be discussed. If you
are in the developer program, please write off list then we can take this
discussion further. Thank you.
On 13 Jun 2015, at 08:20, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
Well, I have an installer for el capitan right
Hi all
I am currently running the beta of OS X 10.11 El Capitan, however in the last
hour I have installed the public release of OS X 10.10.3 Yosemite. All went
well, and I can boot into either operating system, even though the primary
partition has an operating system newer than the secondary
Well, I have an installer for el capitan right now, but I honestly think I'll
just wait for the public beta. I don't know what bugs there may be that could
be showstoppers. I know el capitan is for cleaning up the bugs, but still I
don't think I should take chances so quickly.
Sent from my
Grant,
Thanks. I didn’t realize that Reminders could do all that! The price is
definitely right, as well!
I’ll go have a look a nd see if I can find a good tutorial/podcast on using it
to it’s fullest!
Thanks bunches!
Cait
On Jun 12, 2015, at 9:46 PM, Grant grant.li...@icloud.com wrote:
There is a free trial, so I sure hope he didn’t plunk down the clams for it!
I found the same things as Shaf, though, and will seriously check out Reminders
in OS 10.x and the i phone a lot more!
Cait
On Jun 12, 2015, at 9:49 PM, Grant grant.li...@icloud.com wrote:
Did you just buy this
I never purchase apps unless I either want to support the developer or
need to test for accessibility.
On 6/13/2015 4:40 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:
There is a free trial, so I sure hope he didn’t plunk down the clams for it!
I found the same things as Shaf, though, and will seriously check
Reminders both in I O S and in OSX and BTW, I'm not speaking of the beta
stuff, I mean the current stuff that is totally in the public with I O S
8.3, and with Yosemite 10.10.3, is totally beautiful! I actually just the
other day did something which I've known for years you could do, but never
When I connect my iPhone to the Mac and open iTunes, the Photos app
automatically opens too. Where can I find the setting to disable this?
Thanks.
From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?
--
You received
That’s pretty damn cool!
Thanks for sharing this narrative with the list Christopher.
I’m part of the developer program so will be installing iOS 9 shortly but
probably won’t be risking my Mac when it comes to the next version of OS X.
Have yourself a fabulous day.
With regards,
I'm really glad to report that El Capitan is a lot more responsive with
VoiceOver. Huge thanks to Apple for fixing this!
They've also added some other sound when navigating to another folder
(VoiceOver only), which is kind of weird but it's OK. The 'Allow
VoiceOver to be controlled with Apple
Christopher,How did you create the partitioning accessibly?Regards,Rajiv
- Original Message -
From: christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com
To: macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 02:40:58 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Another awesome thing with the Mac
Guys,
I just wanted to clear up some miscommunication by Apple. They say on the
developer web site that once you upgrade to I O S 9, you cannot go back to a
previous version, like 8.3. That's utter bullshit from what so far I can see.
Now, I wanna make this very very clear. I am saying
OK, I can now safely and concretely confirm absolutely beyond a shadow of a
doubt that Apple is wrong in what they say on the dev web site. Yes, you most
certainly can! downgrade from I O S 9 back to I O S 8.3. I just diddit, and
even restored my 8.3 backup, and it worked absolutely
Chris,
You are correct. You can go back. What Apple means, however, is that if you
decide to downgrade, you have to erase your phone and start over from scratch.
From scratch, yes, but of course you can restore from a backup. The thing is,
your backup will still mean you have to do some setup
That is a pretty simple process. Go to disk utility with command shift u, go
to disc utility, select the drive you want to create the partition on, vo space
bar on partition, go to add knew, by default it will split your drive into 2
partitions in exact size. If you like theis, click
Okay, for some strange reason, when I edit TV shows on the mac in iTunes, it
won’t stay. but when I edit it in windows version of iTunes, and import it in
to the mac iTunes library it sticks. Strange I know, someone suggested it to
me, and low and behold it works. Anyway, I hate having to
Morning everyone!
Please could someone tell me if there is a way of stopping messages on the Mac
from trying to correct my spelling when I am writing a message. Its very
annoying!
I have turned off the spelling option under system preferences, but its still
correcting in messages.
On the
Chris,
VO-shift-m does not work in this situation. There are a number of apps that
the VO-shift-m process does not bring up a Contextual menu for us VO users, but
the physical control-click does. I often check this as an option since I've
noticed the lack of consistency. iBooks is one
I think Apple is covering their backs so developers can't complain or even sue
Apple for bricking their devices.
On 13 Jun 2015, at 19:32, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com
wrote:
Whatever George.
Chris.
- Original Message -
From: george b
To:
I can confirm that one cannot restore settings from an iPhone to an iPad. You
will be told this when setting up an iPad from a backup from iPhone and
probably iPod too.
On 13 Jun 2015, at 15:00, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com
wrote:
They don't take versions into account,
Open photos
Go to prefferences with command,
In there find the place where you have the choice to automatically open photos
when camera is connected and tell it no
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent:
No no no. Go out to your Finder, and hit command+shift+G. now in this
window, type in
~/Library
Notice first off the tilda character. Second off, notice that the L in the
word library is capitalized. Beware by putting the tilda there, you're
moving into your users library folder, not the
If you find one a these babies, you, let me know! On OSX, I use Terminal,
but I've been looking for ages! for something on the I O S side.
Chris.
- Original Message -
From: Todor Fassl fassl@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 2:25 PM
Because it's not available on I O S. The poster was wanting something for I
O S, not for OSX. LOL! Smile.
Chris.
- Original Message -
From: Tyler Thompson tktpianostud...@gmail.com
To: Mac Group macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 3:01 PM
Subject: Re:
No computer is ever gonna be 100% perfect. It's a computer programmed by
humans, and humans aren't perfect. LOL!
Chris.
- Original Message -
From: Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 3:02 AM
Subject: Re: Another awesome
Agreed, but unfortunately, that's really all that Chris and I both can
publicly say for now.
Chris.
- Original Message -
From: christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com
To: macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 3:15 AM
Subject: Re: Another
Hi,
that option is no longer in Preferences George. to accomplish this, plug in
your iPhone/iPad and both iTunes and Photos will both open. Go to the Photos
app and select the Import tab from the main Toolbar. You should now see your
iPhone/iPad listed in the Auxiliary Toolbar. There
Awesome.
Chris.
- Original Message -
From: sadam ahmed
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: Success
Have just thus downloaded the iOS update file.
Earlier in the day I backed up my device to my Mac via way of
Ditto.
On 13 Jun 2015, at 19:25, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com
wrote:
Agreed, but unfortunately, that's really all that Chris and I both can
publicly say for now.
Chris.
- Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth
challswor...@icloud.com
To:
Whatever George.
Chris.
- Original Message -
From: george b
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 10:24 AM
Subject: RE: Bull crap about I O S 9, and no, I'm not breaking NDA.
So why do you have to ust that language does it make you some kind
Can you be more specific of where in IBooks I'll see this? I confess,
guilty as charged, I've been meaning on the mac to play with IBooks more,
but I admittedly haven't even openned it since it became accessible. Now
for someone as advanced as I am of a mac user, how sad is that!? LOL!
Could be, but I still think it's a bit misleading. Call me maybe a bit
picky on samantics, but, whatever.
LOL!
Chris.
- Original Message -
From: christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com
To: macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 2:49 PM
Sorry Tim, I updated the subject line to better reflect. Hope you don't
mind.
Wow, you're right though. That's really interesting. I wonder why the
vo+shift+M wouldn't work. Does it have to do with how things are coded?
Chris.
- Original Message -
From: Tim Kilburn
Chris,
Yes. I suspect that the table uses slightly different structure than, let's
say, a similar table in iTunes. It's likely a custom element using proper
accessibility API's but not everything in there meets VO needs. Just surmising.
Later...
Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Jun
That seems like a lot of work, Tim. Can you not just hit vo+shift+M? Isn't
that technically the same as control clicking in most 90 percent cases?
Please excuse my ignorance if I'm incorrect on this assumption.
Chris.
- Original Message -
From: Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com
To:
Ooo! Nice! Very! very! nice! I'll try it out, provided it's free. Right
now, I can't afford anything. LOL!
Chris.
- Original Message -
From: Shaf shafpa...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: accessible ssh client
Good point Chris. Nothing is perfect, including computers.
On 13 Jun 2015, at 19:24, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com
wrote:
No computer is ever gonna be 100% perfect. It's a computer programmed by
humans, and humans aren't perfect. LOL!
Chris.
- Original Message
No comments.
Chris.
- Original Message -
From: Shaf
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: Another awesome thing with the Mac Platform
I'm really glad to report that El Capitan is a lot more responsive with
VoiceOver. Huge
I've not tried 8.4 yet. I actually just went from 8.3 to 9, but that said I
might. Obviously, being that I'm a dev, I do have access to it. I over looked
it earlier, but then another friend who's a dev who'll be left unsaid reminded
me of having access to it, so I may give it a shot.
Chris.
Hi guys.
I may be missing something here, but it seems to me that we need something
similar to what the sighted get when it comes to telling what features are
going to happen in VoiceOver. I check out the videos Apple puts on the web site
l WWDC etc., and I go through items that I know for
Hi,
When in iBooks in the Bookshelf table, you can navigate to a specific title,
press VO-shift-m and get no response. Press VO-cmd-f5, then ctrl-click and the
Contextual menu is available.
Later...
Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Jun 13, 2015, at 12:50, Christopher-Mark Gilland
Aa, gotcha.
Chris.
- Original Message -
From: Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: IBooks
Chris,
Yes. I suspect that the table uses slightly different structure than, let's
say, a similar table in
Well I'm not going to do any demonstrations until it's out for the general
public at least. It's only right I respect Apple's NDA and so should we all,
even if it means speculating what's fixed, changed or even broken for VoiceOver.
On 13 Jun 2015, at 20:02, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com
Thank you Chris
On Jun 13, 2015 6:02 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com
wrote:
I'm not giving you this answer because I'm not supposed to say. It's
the honest truth from anyone. I don't think anyone completely knows.
Apple is usually pretty hush hush about these type things.
I'm not giving you this answer because I'm not supposed to say. It's the
honest truth from anyone. I don't think anyone completely knows. Apple is
usually pretty hush hush about these type things.
I will! say this though. They're hoping this fall, if I understand correctly.
That however
Hi!
Sorry if i ask something stupid.
How do you do a ctrl click?
/A
13 jun 2015 kl. 21:01 skrev Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com:
Hi,
When in iBooks in the Bookshelf table, you can navigate to a specific title,
press VO-shift-m and get no response. Press VO-cmd-f5, then ctrl-click and
the
Hi!
Ok.
Thanks.
/A
13 jun 2015 kl. 23:28 skrev blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com:
It is literally what it sounds like. If the control key and click the
trackpad at the same time.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 13, 2015, at 5:25 PM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote:
Hi!
Sorry if i
Hi all
Just a quick question. I'm trying to edit the information/bbio in my Twitter
profile using voiceover. I've tried it on all 3 of my devices (IPhone, IPad
and Mac) and every time I get to the place where I can edit the text it all of
a sudden seems to become completely inaccessible.
No, but you can torrent the current beta from your favorite site for free.
On 6/13/2015 9:59 PM, Krysti .Power wrote:
Does anyone know the release date for the public beta
On Jun 8, 2015 8:32 PM, sadamahmed1...@gmail.com
mailto:sadamahmed1...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Ricardo,
Thanks
Though some may not agree, I happen to be one of the ones who do! agree.
I'll admit at times, it is very tempting when I find something really really
awesome. For instance, back when I O S 8 was released, I discovered that
Alex now was included. Can you even imagine how hard it was for me to
Does anyone know the release date for the public beta
On Jun 8, 2015 8:32 PM, sadamahmed1...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Ricardo,
Thanks for confirming.
Looking forward to downloading.
Regards,
Sadam Ahmed
Sent from my iPhone
--
On 9 Jun 2015, at 8:58 am, Ricardo Walker
Absolutely. You're more than welcome, my friend!
Chris.
- Original Message -
From: Krysti .Power
To: Mac
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: el capitan
Thank you Chris
On Jun 13, 2015 6:02 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi all
Is it true that this is the first time ever Apple released a public beta of
iOS? I mean major iOS releases? If so, this is a step forward, and a good one.
I have signed up, even though I *am* a developer as far as testing goes.
On 13 Jun 2015, at 22:03, Krysti .Power
It is literally what it sounds like. If the control key and click the trackpad
at the same time.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 13, 2015, at 5:25 PM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote:
Hi!
Sorry if i ask something stupid.
How do you do a ctrl click?
/A
13 jun 2015 kl. 21:01 skrev
It is possiblle, but you don't use the VoiceOver dictionary.
I was about 50 percent comlete on creating an AppleScript to toggle the preview
pane in apple mail when the logic board on my system died. I was using the UI
scrippting elements within the System Events scripting library.
Something
I am looking to replace my well loved macbook pro 15 inch from 2009, and am
wondering if I should get a high end Macbook Air or a MacMini.
Please let me know of any sugestions. Also, how is the market for not quite new
systems? My budget is a bit tight these days.
Jonathan Cohn
--
You
It is also possible to script in javascript using the scripteditor. I believe
that perl also has ways of accessing scripting objects in other applications.
Jonathan Cohn
On Jun 11, 2015, at 6:12 AM, Sean Murphy mhysnm1...@gmail.com wrote:
I would also like to know and also do you have to
Hi Jonathan, I like the macbook air very much, and the new one’s are supposed
to be really fast. Not sure about the mac mini, I understand it has a similar
processor to the air but it has spinning hdd’s. As far as resale of your old
mac, eBay has lots of them I’d try selling it there!
Jeff
On
Hi,
It all depends on if you want mobility or not. The Mini is probably a bit more
powerful machine but, of course, not as portable or as light as an MBA. The
Mini also requires an external keyboard whereas the MBA has it all built-in.
Regarding used or refurbished Macs, go to the Sore from
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