Re: el capitan

2015-06-13 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Wouldn't downloading El Capitan through Torrent void any software updates it may have in the future? Shawn Sent from my White MacBook On Jun 13, 2015, at 4:57 PM, Shaf shafpa...@gmail.com wrote: No, but you can torrent the current beta from your favorite site for free. On 6/13/2015

Re: el capitan

2015-06-13 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
And, if I find anyone doing this, they'll be reported, case closed. Chris. - Original Message - From: Shaf To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 5:57 PM Subject: Re: el capitan No, but you can torrent the current beta from your favorite site

Re: el capitan

2015-06-13 Thread gs
Christopher-Mark - Have you caught anybody yet and reported them? If I received information that someone had downloaded a torrent of the beta version of the operating system and subsequently installed it, how would I go about reporting it? Any help you can give me is truly appreciated as I

JAWS and Dongles and Fusion, Oh My

2015-06-13 Thread Chris Meredith
Greetings. I’m trying to get a VM spun up with Fusion and JAWS. I’m loath to use an ILM authorization (I shall leave my editorial comments on what I make of their authorization scheme for another time), so I’m using a hardware dongle from a prior life wherein I worked on the team that

Re: el capitan

2015-06-13 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
To the best of my knowledge, Chris, yes. This is the first time. I'm a little curious though. Why did you sign up for the public beta, if you're a dev? Isn't that somewhat redundant? Chris. - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com To:

Piping sound to another device?

2015-06-13 Thread Justin Mann
Hi there, I’ve got an 11 Inch Mid 2013 Macbook air, and I’ve got a set of speakers plugged in to the headphone jack that I normally use for computer sound. I also have a very nice hi-fi receiver that I’d like to use. Is it possible that I would be able to pipe the voiceover sound though the

Re: uninstalling system prefs pain

2015-06-13 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Hold down your control key while clicking your mouse/trackpad. Chris. - Original Message - From: Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 5:25 PM Subject: Re: uninstalling system prefs pain Hi! Sorry if i ask something

Re: Piping sound to another device?

2015-06-13 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
I might also point out that if you have a nice receiver you might want to connect it using something other than blue tooth. Your Mac has optical audio outputs so you can use that for very high quality digital audio to most receivers which have optical inputs. Of course that still leaves you in

Re: Piping sound to another device?

2015-06-13 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, If you had either an Airport Express or an Apple TV, this would be very easily accomplished. You can stream music to both those devices independent of the sound coming through either the internal speakers or the headphone jack. I, at times, am doing work on my computer and have iTunes

Re: Using Apple script to script voiceover as one would make scripts for Windows screenreaders

2015-06-13 Thread Sean Murphy
Hi, Where are some good resources on this topic to help VI’s to understand how to program this type of stuff? On 14 Jun 2015, at 8:44 am, Jonathan C. Cohn jon.c.c...@gmail.com wrote: It is also possible to script in javascript using the scripteditor. I believe that perl also has ways of

Re: el capitan

2015-06-13 Thread Daniel Miller
No. On Jun 13, 2015, at 9:13 PM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote: Wouldn't downloading El Capitan through Torrent void any software updates it may have in the future? Shawn Sent from my White MacBook On Jun 13, 2015, at 4:57 PM, Shaf shafpa...@gmail.com

Re: replacement system.

2015-06-13 Thread Cameron Strife
Hi. Just in case you may be interested, I've got a near mint fifteen inch retina mac book pro for sale with eight gigs of ram, solid state hard drive, and quad core I7 processor. Feel free to shoot me a message off list if that may interest you. Thanks. Cameron. On 6/13/15, Tim Kilburn

Re: el capitan

2015-06-13 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I dono, but the bottom line is that's illegal, and being I'm a dev, I'm legally obligated to reporting anyone who I catch doing this. Normally, I'm not so prideful nor strict with things like this, however, Apple is one of the very few things I will *not!* bend this policy on under any

Re: Piping sound to another device?

2015-06-13 Thread Barry Hadder
Open voiceover utility, go to sound, and choose built-in output as the output device. All voiceover speech and sounds should now go through the built-in sound hardware while everything else goes through the bluetooth. On Jun 13, 2015, at 10:57 PM, Justin Mann w9...@me.com wrote: Hi there,

Re: Success

2015-06-13 Thread Daniel Miller
Hi. I tried that twice last night, with no success each time. 8.3 would restore back to my phone, but iTunes refused to restore the backup saying the software on the phone was too old. Any tips on what I might be doing wrong? Or if I might be potentially screwed? One backup was before I put

RE: Bull crap about I O S 9, and no, I'm not breaking NDA.

2015-06-13 Thread george b
So why do you have to ust that language does it make you some kind of a man??? From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 04:54 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Bull crap about

Re: Success

2015-06-13 Thread Daniel Miller
In that case, I guess I’m screwed then, even though I thought one of my iTunes backups was made right before I put 9 on, but I guess not. On Jun 13, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: They don't take versions into account, unless you're trying to restore

Re: Success

2015-06-13 Thread sadam ahmed
Have just thus downloaded the iOS update file. Earlier in the day I backed up my device to my Mac via way of connecting through the Lightning cable. When it’s a civilised time instead of 12:23 AM in the morning I’ll commence with updating the iPhone 6 to iOS 9. A pleasant day to all.

Re: Bull crap about I O S 9, and no, I'm not breaking NDA.

2015-06-13 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Honestly, They need to be more clear at how they word that then, as the way they make it sound is, you literally! cannot downgrade, period. Once it's on I O S 9, that's it. No turning back, regardless. Chris. - Original Message - From: Buddy Brannan bu...@brannan.name To:

Re: Success

2015-06-13 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
They don't take versions into account, unless you're trying to restore one I O S device to a different type device. IE, you can't restore your settings from an IPhone on to an IPad. Trust me, I should know. I tried. Further, if the backup was made with a newer version of I O S than you're

Re: Success

2015-06-13 Thread Daniel Miller
Oh, never mind, I’m not screwed, I forgot about beta 4 of 8.4. lol sorry for the confusion. On Jun 13, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: They don't take versions into account, unless you're trying to restore one I O S device to a different type

Re: Turn off auto correct in messages?

2015-06-13 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, Specifically, in Messages, go under the Edit menu, to the Spelling Grammar item, right to the sub-menu and uncheck the items affecting you. Probably the Check Spelling while Typing and Correct Spelling Automatically. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun 13, 2015, at

Re: Another awesome thing with the Mac Platform

2015-06-13 Thread Devin Prater
Wow, that's amazing. I think the Mac just needs more developers and it'll be perfect. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 13, 2015, at 1:40 AM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Hi all I am currently running the beta of OS X 10.11 El Capitan, however in the last hour I

Re: Another awesome thing with the Mac Platform

2015-06-13 Thread christopher hallsworth
I think you will be pleasantly surprised when El Capitan is released in at least public beta form. On 13 Jun 2015, at 08:02, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: Wow, that's amazing. I think the Mac just needs more developers and it'll be perfect. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 13, 2015,

Re: Another awesome thing with the Mac Platform

2015-06-13 Thread christopher hallsworth
Well it works great, and there are bugs, but these won't be discussed. If you are in the developer program, please write off list then we can take this discussion further. Thank you. On 13 Jun 2015, at 08:20, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: Well, I have an installer for el capitan right

Another awesome thing with the Mac Platform

2015-06-13 Thread christopher hallsworth
Hi all I am currently running the beta of OS X 10.11 El Capitan, however in the last hour I have installed the public release of OS X 10.10.3 Yosemite. All went well, and I can boot into either operating system, even though the primary partition has an operating system newer than the secondary

Re: Another awesome thing with the Mac Platform

2015-06-13 Thread Devin Prater
Well, I have an installer for el capitan right now, but I honestly think I'll just wait for the public beta. I don't know what bugs there may be that could be showstoppers. I know el capitan is for cleaning up the bugs, but still I don't think I should take chances so quickly. Sent from my

Re: organizer suggestions?

2015-06-13 Thread Caitlyn Furness
Grant, Thanks. I didn’t realize that Reminders could do all that! The price is definitely right, as well! I’ll go have a look a nd see if I can find a good tutorial/podcast on using it to it’s fullest! Thanks bunches! Cait On Jun 12, 2015, at 9:46 PM, Grant grant.li...@icloud.com wrote:

Re: Things

2015-06-13 Thread Caitlyn Furness
There is a free trial, so I sure hope he didn’t plunk down the clams for it! I found the same things as Shaf, though, and will seriously check out Reminders in OS 10.x and the i phone a lot more! Cait On Jun 12, 2015, at 9:49 PM, Grant grant.li...@icloud.com wrote: Did you just buy this

Re: Things

2015-06-13 Thread Shaf
I never purchase apps unless I either want to support the developer or need to test for accessibility. On 6/13/2015 4:40 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote: There is a free trial, so I sure hope he didn’t plunk down the clams for it! I found the same things as Shaf, though, and will seriously check

Re: Things

2015-06-13 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Reminders both in I O S and in OSX and BTW, I'm not speaking of the beta stuff, I mean the current stuff that is totally in the public with I O S 8.3, and with Yosemite 10.10.3, is totally beautiful! I actually just the other day did something which I've known for years you could do, but never

iTunes and Photo app

2015-06-13 Thread E.T.
When I connect my iPhone to the Mac and open iTunes, the Photos app automatically opens too. Where can I find the setting to disable this? Thanks. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? -- You received

Re: Another awesome thing with the Mac Platform

2015-06-13 Thread sadam ahmed
That’s pretty damn cool! Thanks for sharing this narrative with the list Christopher. I’m part of the developer program so will be installing iOS 9 shortly but probably won’t be risking my Mac when it comes to the next version of OS X. Have yourself a fabulous day. With regards,

Re: Another awesome thing with the Mac Platform

2015-06-13 Thread Shaf
I'm really glad to report that El Capitan is a lot more responsive with VoiceOver. Huge thanks to Apple for fixing this! They've also added some other sound when navigating to another folder (VoiceOver only), which is kind of weird but it's OK. The 'Allow VoiceOver to be controlled with Apple

Re: Another awesome thing with the Mac Platform

2015-06-13 Thread Rajiv Shah
Christopher,How did you create the partitioning accessibly?Regards,Rajiv - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com To: macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 02:40:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Another awesome thing with the Mac

Bull crap about I O S 9, and no, I'm not breaking NDA.

2015-06-13 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Guys, I just wanted to clear up some miscommunication by Apple. They say on the developer web site that once you upgrade to I O S 9, you cannot go back to a previous version, like 8.3. That's utter bullshit from what so far I can see. Now, I wanna make this very very clear. I am saying

Success

2015-06-13 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
OK, I can now safely and concretely confirm absolutely beyond a shadow of a doubt that Apple is wrong in what they say on the dev web site. Yes, you most certainly can! downgrade from I O S 9 back to I O S 8.3. I just diddit, and even restored my 8.3 backup, and it worked absolutely

Re: Bull crap about I O S 9, and no, I'm not breaking NDA.

2015-06-13 Thread Buddy Brannan
Chris, You are correct. You can go back. What Apple means, however, is that if you decide to downgrade, you have to erase your phone and start over from scratch. From scratch, yes, but of course you can restore from a backup. The thing is, your backup will still mean you have to do some setup

Re: Another awesome thing with the Mac Platform

2015-06-13 Thread Kliph
That is a pretty simple process. Go to disk utility with command shift u, go to disc utility, select the drive you want to create the partition on, vo space bar on partition, go to add knew, by default it will split your drive into 2 partitions in exact size. If you like theis, click

editing meta data in iTunes using windows?

2015-06-13 Thread Kliph
Okay, for some strange reason, when I edit TV shows on the mac in iTunes, it won’t stay. but when I edit it in windows version of iTunes, and import it in to the mac iTunes library it sticks. Strange I know, someone suggested it to me, and low and behold it works. Anyway, I hate having to

Turn off auto correct in messages?

2015-06-13 Thread Gary Price
Morning everyone! Please could someone tell me if there is a way of stopping messages on the Mac from trying to correct my spelling when I am writing a message. Its very annoying! I have turned off the spelling option under system preferences, but its still correcting in messages. On the

Re: uninstalling system prefs pain

2015-06-13 Thread Tim Kilburn
Chris, VO-shift-m does not work in this situation. There are a number of apps that the VO-shift-m process does not bring up a Contextual menu for us VO users, but the physical control-click does. I often check this as an option since I've noticed the lack of consistency. iBooks is one

Re: Bull crap about I O S 9, and no, I'm not breaking NDA.

2015-06-13 Thread christopher hallsworth
I think Apple is covering their backs so developers can't complain or even sue Apple for bricking their devices. On 13 Jun 2015, at 19:32, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Whatever George. Chris. - Original Message - From: george b To:

Re: Success

2015-06-13 Thread christopher hallsworth
I can confirm that one cannot restore settings from an iPhone to an iPad. You will be told this when setting up an iPad from a backup from iPhone and probably iPod too. On 13 Jun 2015, at 15:00, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: They don't take versions into account,

RE: iTunes and Photo app

2015-06-13 Thread george b
Open photos Go to prefferences with command, In there find the place where you have the choice to automatically open photos when camera is connected and tell it no -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. Sent:

Re: uninstalling system prefs pain

2015-06-13 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
No no no. Go out to your Finder, and hit command+shift+G. now in this window, type in ~/Library Notice first off the tilda character. Second off, notice that the L in the word library is capitalized. Beware by putting the tilda there, you're moving into your users library folder, not the

Re: accessible ssh client

2015-06-13 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
If you find one a these babies, you, let me know! On OSX, I use Terminal, but I've been looking for ages! for something on the I O S side. Chris. - Original Message - From: Todor Fassl fassl@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 2:25 PM

Re: accessible ssh client

2015-06-13 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Because it's not available on I O S. The poster was wanting something for I O S, not for OSX. LOL! Smile. Chris. - Original Message - From: Tyler Thompson tktpianostud...@gmail.com To: Mac Group macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 3:01 PM Subject: Re:

Re: Another awesome thing with the Mac Platform

2015-06-13 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
No computer is ever gonna be 100% perfect. It's a computer programmed by humans, and humans aren't perfect. LOL! Chris. - Original Message - From: Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 3:02 AM Subject: Re: Another awesome

Re: Another awesome thing with the Mac Platform

2015-06-13 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Agreed, but unfortunately, that's really all that Chris and I both can publicly say for now. Chris. - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com To: macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 3:15 AM Subject: Re: Another

Re: iTunes and Photo app

2015-06-13 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, that option is no longer in Preferences George. to accomplish this, plug in your iPhone/iPad and both iTunes and Photos will both open. Go to the Photos app and select the Import tab from the main Toolbar. You should now see your iPhone/iPad listed in the Auxiliary Toolbar. There

Re: Success

2015-06-13 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Awesome. Chris. - Original Message - From: sadam ahmed To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 10:25 AM Subject: Re: Success Have just thus downloaded the iOS update file. Earlier in the day I backed up my device to my Mac via way of

Re: Another awesome thing with the Mac Platform

2015-06-13 Thread christopher hallsworth
Ditto. On 13 Jun 2015, at 19:25, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed, but unfortunately, that's really all that Chris and I both can publicly say for now. Chris. - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com To:

Re: Bull crap about I O S 9, and no, I'm not breaking NDA.

2015-06-13 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Whatever George. Chris. - Original Message - From: george b To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 10:24 AM Subject: RE: Bull crap about I O S 9, and no, I'm not breaking NDA. So why do you have to ust that language does it make you some kind

Re: uninstalling system prefs pain

2015-06-13 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Can you be more specific of where in IBooks I'll see this? I confess, guilty as charged, I've been meaning on the mac to play with IBooks more, but I admittedly haven't even openned it since it became accessible. Now for someone as advanced as I am of a mac user, how sad is that!? LOL!

Re: Bull crap about I O S 9, and no, I'm not breaking NDA.

2015-06-13 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Could be, but I still think it's a bit misleading. Call me maybe a bit picky on samantics, but, whatever. LOL! Chris. - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com To: macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 2:49 PM

Re: IBooks

2015-06-13 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sorry Tim, I updated the subject line to better reflect. Hope you don't mind. Wow, you're right though. That's really interesting. I wonder why the vo+shift+M wouldn't work. Does it have to do with how things are coded? Chris. - Original Message - From: Tim Kilburn

Re: IBooks

2015-06-13 Thread Tim Kilburn
Chris, Yes. I suspect that the table uses slightly different structure than, let's say, a similar table in iTunes. It's likely a custom element using proper accessibility API's but not everything in there meets VO needs. Just surmising. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun

Re: uninstalling system prefs pain

2015-06-13 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
That seems like a lot of work, Tim. Can you not just hit vo+shift+M? Isn't that technically the same as control clicking in most 90 percent cases? Please excuse my ignorance if I'm incorrect on this assumption. Chris. - Original Message - From: Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com To:

Re: accessible ssh client

2015-06-13 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Ooo! Nice! Very! very! nice! I'll try it out, provided it's free. Right now, I can't afford anything. LOL! Chris. - Original Message - From: Shaf shafpa...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 2:54 PM Subject: Re: accessible ssh client

Re: Another awesome thing with the Mac Platform

2015-06-13 Thread christopher hallsworth
Good point Chris. Nothing is perfect, including computers. On 13 Jun 2015, at 19:24, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: No computer is ever gonna be 100% perfect. It's a computer programmed by humans, and humans aren't perfect. LOL! Chris. - Original Message

Re: Another awesome thing with the Mac Platform

2015-06-13 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
No comments. Chris. - Original Message - From: Shaf To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 8:23 AM Subject: Re: Another awesome thing with the Mac Platform I'm really glad to report that El Capitan is a lot more responsive with VoiceOver. Huge

Re: Success

2015-06-13 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I've not tried 8.4 yet. I actually just went from 8.3 to 9, but that said I might. Obviously, being that I'm a dev, I do have access to it. I over looked it earlier, but then another friend who's a dev who'll be left unsaid reminded me of having access to it, so I may give it a shot. Chris.

Re: Another awesome thing with the Mac Platform

2015-06-13 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi guys. I may be missing something here, but it seems to me that we need something similar to what the sighted get when it comes to telling what features are going to happen in VoiceOver. I check out the videos Apple puts on the web site l WWDC etc., and I go through items that I know for

Re: uninstalling system prefs pain

2015-06-13 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, When in iBooks in the Bookshelf table, you can navigate to a specific title, press VO-shift-m and get no response. Press VO-cmd-f5, then ctrl-click and the Contextual menu is available. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun 13, 2015, at 12:50, Christopher-Mark Gilland

Re: IBooks

2015-06-13 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Aa, gotcha. Chris. - Original Message - From: Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 3:19 PM Subject: Re: IBooks Chris, Yes. I suspect that the table uses slightly different structure than, let's say, a similar table in

Re: Another awesome thing with the Mac Platform

2015-06-13 Thread christopher hallsworth
Well I'm not going to do any demonstrations until it's out for the general public at least. It's only right I respect Apple's NDA and so should we all, even if it means speculating what's fixed, changed or even broken for VoiceOver. On 13 Jun 2015, at 20:02, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com

Re: el capitan

2015-06-13 Thread Krysti .Power
Thank you Chris On Jun 13, 2015 6:02 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not giving you this answer because I'm not supposed to say. It's the honest truth from anyone. I don't think anyone completely knows. Apple is usually pretty hush hush about these type things.

Re: el capitan

2015-06-13 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I'm not giving you this answer because I'm not supposed to say. It's the honest truth from anyone. I don't think anyone completely knows. Apple is usually pretty hush hush about these type things. I will! say this though. They're hoping this fall, if I understand correctly. That however

Re: uninstalling system prefs pain

2015-06-13 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Sorry if i ask something stupid. How do you do a ctrl click? /A 13 jun 2015 kl. 21:01 skrev Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com: Hi, When in iBooks in the Bookshelf table, you can navigate to a specific title, press VO-shift-m and get no response. Press VO-cmd-f5, then ctrl-click and the

Re: uninstalling system prefs pain

2015-06-13 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Ok. Thanks. /A 13 jun 2015 kl. 23:28 skrev blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com: It is literally what it sounds like. If the control key and click the trackpad at the same time. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 13, 2015, at 5:25 PM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! Sorry if i

Can anyone tell me how I go about editing the bio of my Twitter profile using voiceover please?

2015-06-13 Thread 'Eleanor Roberts' via MacVisionaries
Hi all Just a quick question. I'm trying to edit the information/bbio in my Twitter profile using voiceover. I've tried it on all 3 of my devices (IPhone, IPad and Mac) and every time I get to the place where I can edit the text it all of a sudden seems to become completely inaccessible.

Re: el capitan

2015-06-13 Thread Shaf
No, but you can torrent the current beta from your favorite site for free. On 6/13/2015 9:59 PM, Krysti .Power wrote: Does anyone know the release date for the public beta On Jun 8, 2015 8:32 PM, sadamahmed1...@gmail.com mailto:sadamahmed1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ricardo, Thanks

Re: Another awesome thing with the Mac Platform

2015-06-13 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Though some may not agree, I happen to be one of the ones who do! agree. I'll admit at times, it is very tempting when I find something really really awesome. For instance, back when I O S 8 was released, I discovered that Alex now was included. Can you even imagine how hard it was for me to

Re: el capitan

2015-06-13 Thread Krysti .Power
Does anyone know the release date for the public beta On Jun 8, 2015 8:32 PM, sadamahmed1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ricardo, Thanks for confirming. Looking forward to downloading. Regards, Sadam Ahmed Sent from my iPhone -- On 9 Jun 2015, at 8:58 am, Ricardo Walker

Re: el capitan

2015-06-13 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Absolutely. You're more than welcome, my friend! Chris. - Original Message - From: Krysti .Power To: Mac Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 5:03 PM Subject: Re: el capitan Thank you Chris On Jun 13, 2015 6:02 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: el capitan

2015-06-13 Thread christopher hallsworth
Hi all Is it true that this is the first time ever Apple released a public beta of iOS? I mean major iOS releases? If so, this is a step forward, and a good one. I have signed up, even though I *am* a developer as far as testing goes. On 13 Jun 2015, at 22:03, Krysti .Power

Re: uninstalling system prefs pain

2015-06-13 Thread blindcowgirl1993
It is literally what it sounds like. If the control key and click the trackpad at the same time. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 13, 2015, at 5:25 PM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! Sorry if i ask something stupid. How do you do a ctrl click? /A 13 jun 2015 kl. 21:01 skrev

Re: Using Apple script to script voiceover as one would make scripts for Windows screenreaders

2015-06-13 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
It is possiblle, but you don't use the VoiceOver dictionary. I was about 50 percent comlete on creating an AppleScript to toggle the preview pane in apple mail when the logic board on my system died. I was using the UI scrippting elements within the System Events scripting library. Something

replacement system.

2015-06-13 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
I am looking to replace my well loved macbook pro 15 inch from 2009, and am wondering if I should get a high end Macbook Air or a MacMini. Please let me know of any sugestions. Also, how is the market for not quite new systems? My budget is a bit tight these days. Jonathan Cohn -- You

Re: Using Apple script to script voiceover as one would make scripts for Windows screenreaders

2015-06-13 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
It is also possible to script in javascript using the scripteditor. I believe that perl also has ways of accessing scripting objects in other applications. Jonathan Cohn On Jun 11, 2015, at 6:12 AM, Sean Murphy mhysnm1...@gmail.com wrote: I would also like to know and also do you have to

Re: replacement system.

2015-06-13 Thread jeff `greene
Hi Jonathan, I like the macbook air very much, and the new one’s are supposed to be really fast. Not sure about the mac mini, I understand it has a similar processor to the air but it has spinning hdd’s. As far as resale of your old mac, eBay has lots of them I’d try selling it there! Jeff On

Re: replacement system.

2015-06-13 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, It all depends on if you want mobility or not. The Mini is probably a bit more powerful machine but, of course, not as portable or as light as an MBA. The Mini also requires an external keyboard whereas the MBA has it all built-in. Regarding used or refurbished Macs, go to the Sore from