Radium on the Mac

[Mary Otten]

It has been a long time since I used radium on the Mac. I use it on my phone 
and my iPad quite a bit. I just went to the Mac app, which is up-to-date. I am 
not seeing any of the stations which I had previously saved. All I get is a 
scroll area that has a bunch of categories presumably for me to browse. But I'm 
not seeing any of my safe stations. It seems to me that this problem has been 
discussed before, but I don't remember what the solution was if any. I did find 
an unlabeled button, which I pressed with no resulting action.
Mary

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Re: Radium on the Mac

[Phil Halton]

Mary, here's the trick,  Press that unlabeled button, and then press vo plus 
command plus T to move to the table. Interact with the table and you will find 
your favorited stations. Pressing the unlabeled button changes the search 
categories scroll area into the saved stations table list. You will have to do 
this each time you want to get to your table of saved stations. Very strange, 
but that's how it works.

Sent from my IPhone


> On Sep 19, 2015, at 3:13 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> It has been a long time since I used radium on the Mac. I use it on my phone 
> and my iPad quite a bit. I just went to the Mac app, which is up-to-date. I 
> am not seeing any of the stations which I had previously saved. All I get is 
> a scroll area that has a bunch of categories presumably for me to browse. But 
> I'm not seeing any of my safe stations. It seems to me that this problem has 
> been discussed before, but I don't remember what the solution was if any. I 
> did find an unlabeled button, which I pressed with no resulting action.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Cannon Scanner and Mac Mini

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

I believe my canon scanner came with a CD with a twain driver and some other 
code. Perhaps you need to install a driver.

Best wishes,

Jonathan



> On Sep 18, 2015, at 09:34, 'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello, I have a Macbook Air and a Mac Mini  both running Yosemite.
> When I connect the Cannon scanner to the Macbook Air, , and go to printers 
> and faxes, I can add it with no problem and it works beautifully.
> However, on the Mac Mini, it just literally does not show up at all, I have 
> tried all available USB ports.
> The scanner has no on/off button, and I made certain that it was unlocked.
> It’s just not showing up at all.
> Any suggestions would sure be appreciated.
> Thanks.
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Re: Dropbox on Mac (was: Scanning text on the MAC)

[Alex Hall]

No question about learning the Mac is stupid. I did the same thing: fought with 
it off an on for a year while using Windows, then finally had to use the Mac 
when NVDA completely stopped working thanks to a bad speech driver back when 
Nuance voices first came out. Once I got the hang of it in those few weeks, I 
stayed with it, and now I dread the days I have to work with Windows for family 
or clients. Don't forget that, right on the homepage of AppleVis.com, we have a 
link to a bunch of resources for getting started with the Mac--podcasts, 
guides, and the like.
> On Sep 19, 2015, at 19:39, Eileen Scrivani  wrote:
> 
> Hi Phil,
>  
> Last year when I first got the Mac, I used the help feature and did go 
> through some of the tutorials.  Some of it made sense and a lot more of it 
> just made me feel lost.  Over the last year, I confess, I reverted back to 
> Windows since I can do things so much better and faster than on the Mac.  My 
> reason for buying the Mac Book was & still is that I expect this Windows 
> computer to crash within a year or two.  The last 2 to  3 
> Windows computers I have owned have all had problems that were not 
> repairable.  Out of disgust I decided I wanted to learn how to use the Mac 
> before it becomes an emergency situation.  So, a year later here I am still 
> struggling to try and make sense of the layout and how things work.  I know 
> its ridiculous and I’m left just feeling really stupid!!
>  
> So, sorry for all my very basic questions.  I will re-visit the help like you 
> suggest.  Thanks.
>  
> Eileen
>  
> From: Phil Halton 
> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 3:47 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Dropbox on Mac (was: Scanning text on the MAC)
>  
> Eileen, one of the very best and most up-to-date tutorials on how to use 
> voice over resides right there on your Mac in the help system. Press VO plus 
> H to bring up the voiceover help system and arrow down until you see 
> QuickStart guide. Press vo enter on that and you will be brought into the 
> tutorial which is in the form of an HTML document segmented into chapters. 
> When I first got my mac I read that tutorial voraciously until I understood 
> most all there was to know about voiceover. It really is an excellent guide 
> on how to use the Mac and if you read through it you'll be an expert in no 
> time.
> Good luck
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
> > On Sep 19, 2015, at 12:58 PM, Eileen Scrivani  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > hi, 
> > 
> > Thank you all who responded to my questions.  I have DropBox downloading 
> > now on the Mac.  I have been using it for a while on Windows to share files 
> > with another group.  Its a matter of my learning how to use it on the Mac.  
> > 
> > Currently, I am reading through the Tim Sniffen book, but I find he does a 
> > lot for Zoom, and I’d find it easier if there was more of a focus on VO and 
> > would  rather learn more keyboard commands.  I’ll try to learn as much as I 
> > can from the book … anything that will help. 
> > 
> > Thanks again. 
> > 
> > Eileen
> > 
> >> On Sep 19, 2015, at 11:45 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> >> 
> >> That link will download the software. Once it downloads, go to Finder, 
> >> press cmd-option-l, and arrow down to the just-download file. Press cmd-o, 
> >> and follow the prompts. Eventually, you'll sign into Dropbox, and that's 
> >> it. Thereafter, Dropbox will be just a folder in Finder like any other, 
> >> and you can use it like any other folder. You'll almost never need to 
> >> change anything or adjust any settings. I'm hoping KNFB Reader eventually 
> >> adds support for iCloud Drive, but Dropbox will work for now. Let me know 
> >> if you run into problems with this, and remember that you can install 
> >> Dropbox on Windows until you get more comfortable on the Mac.
> >>> On Sep 19, 2015, at 10:37, E.T.  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Dropbox for the Mac can be found here.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> >>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> >>> Many believe that we have been visited
> >>> in the past. What if it were true?
> >>> 
>  On 9/19/2015 7:29 AM, Eileen Scrivani wrote:
>  Hi Alex,
>  I do have an IPhone that has the KnFB software on it and I do use it.
>  The issue that comes to mind is that in processing mail, I keep records
>  of bills & payments and keep files on my Windows 8 computer.
>  If I were to scan important mail with the KnFB app on the IPhone then
>  after saving information to a file/document, I am uncertain about
>  transferring information to either my Mac Book Pro or Windows 8 computer
>  for the purpose of record keeping.  I have already installed DropBox on
>  my phone, but now need to figure out how to get it on the Mac Book.  It
> 

Re: Braille Software for Mac??

[E.T.]

Eileen,
   Open the zip file with command o then find the installer package 
file, should be in the same folder as the zip and again do a command o 
on that. Should work.


   I had put the zip file on the desktop and went there in Finder.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 9/19/2015 4:52 PM, Eileen Scrivani wrote:

Hi Again ...
I was able to download the Louis Braille program/installer (it seems to
me) to my Mac Book.  It is listed in the downloads folder/area on the
computer.  However, when I issue whatever the command is to start the
installer the Mac comes back saying something about the file/installer
is from an unknown source and can’t install or run – something to that
extent – I forget the exact wording.
I have selected the “continue” button, but I don’t think its doing
anything.
Does this mean it will not run on the laptop?  It is possible I’m not
hitting the correct command to get it to run/install, I’m just not certain.
Thanks.
Eileen
*From:* Jim Gatteys 
*Sent:* Friday, September 18, 2015 7:08 PM
*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

*Subject:* Re: Braille Software for Mac??
Louis for mac works for me.  It is not as intuitive as DBT but I did get
to work and now that Understand it it is just fine.  I don't do a lot of
translation but it is nice for the occasional file.  You can get it from
the link listed below.
Jim
http://www.cucat.org/projects/louis/

On Sep 18, 2015, at 6:01 PM, Eileen Scrivani > wrote:

HI All,

I’m also wondering if there is any translation software for the Mac
that will allow for Braille translation/production on the Mac without
having to install windows and running DBT under windows??  Thanks.

Eileen

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Re: E-mail bug on IOS.

[Devin Prater]

Yes, that was fixed. Then I had to get used to not having to tap the "move" for 
it to jump to delete. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 19, 2015, at 4:31 PM, Regina Alvarado  
> wrote:
> 
> If I am thinking of the bug he is asking about, yes, yay it is fixed! It is 
> the bug that when you tapped delete it would go to reply. Yay, yay, at least 
> no doing this for a while using mail! I am so happy! 
> 
> reggie & Lex
> 
> On Sep 16, 2015, at 7:36 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> I am not running iOS 9. The bugs are in iOS 8.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 16 Sep 2015, at 10:56 pm, Michael  wrote:
>> 
>> Could you be more specific about what bug you're talking about in mail? I 
>> haven't observed any as of yet and been running iOS nine cents July.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 16, 2015, at 2:30 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> 
>>> I don't know if anyone has got IOS9 on there I phone yet but if they have 
>>> and it's released, can someone tell me if the e-mail bug has been fixed 
>>> please?  Also, the bug where Voice Over did not focus properly on I cons, 
>>> is that fixed too please?  Please could someone tell me when El Capitan 
>>> will be released as I don't know.
>>> 
>>> I hope my questions are allowed now meaning we can ask I phone questions on 
>>> here now.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
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VMWare Fusion causes very poor battery life on Retina Macbook Pro

[Jonathan Mosen]

Hi everyone, since migrating from a Macbook Air to a retina Macbook Pro, 
battery life when using Fusion has been very disappointing. Obviously I'd 
expect to take a bit of a hit, since I'm running two operating systems at once, 
but in some cases I am only getting about three hours. It was far better with 
the Air.
I'm looking for strategies to do all I can to maximise battery life as I enjoy 
having access to both operating systems at once, and would prefer not to 
Bootcamp if I can help it. Windows is my primary OS though, so I need to try 
and improve the situation.
I've gone into the virtual machine settings and have disabled graphics 
acceleration. I've also told it not to use full resolution for retina display.
I'll ask VMWare directly, but right now their support seems to be going through 
a system upgrade.
One thing in researching this issue is that it would appear VMWare Fusion Pro 
may be better at giving you control over whether the virtual machine uses the 
dedicated GPU or not, which I think is probably what's doing a lot of the 
draining.
Can anyone confirm that VMWare Fusion Pro might be a better bet in terms of 
energy consumption?
Thanks a lot.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
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Re: Force Touch on Macbook Pro with VoiceOver

[Jonathan Mosen]

I'm afraid not. It appears to have no support at all in VO.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
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> On 20/09/2015, at 9:36 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Maybe there will be more features coming in el capitan for voiceover and 
> force touch.
> /A
>> 17 sep. 2015 kl. 22:09 skrev Jonathan Mosen > >:
>> 
>> Thanks Alex, that's certainly been my experience thus far, but wanted to 
>> make sure I wasn't overlooking anything.
>> Jonathan Mosen
>> Mosen Consulting
>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>> http://Mosen.org 
>>> On 18/09/2015, at 7:33 AM, Alex Hall >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I tested this at a local Best Buy, trying different things for about an 
>>> hour. The best I could do was to route the mouse to the VO cursor with 
>>> vo-cmd-f5, then deep press. That didn't always work, but I sometimes got 
>>> word definitions and the like. To the best of my knowledge, Apple doesn't 
>>> currently let VoiceOver take advantage of the trackpad yet. Here's hoping 
>>> they do, because it could be a very powerful technology.
 On Sep 17, 2015, at 15:13, Jonathan Mosen > wrote:
 
 Hi all, I just took possession of my new Macbook Pro yesterday. I usually 
 give myself a lot of time to customise a new computer to behave just how I 
 want, but I had things working incredibly quickly. Thanks to Setup 
 Assistant, I set up using a Time Machine backup of my Macbook Air, then I 
 copied my virtual machine across from my NAS, which I don't have as part 
 of the Time Machine backup.
 So within about 90 minutes, I had all my apps, my settings, Windows and 
 all the software I use there, JAWS, and everything set up. Now that, is 
 very slick.
 My question relates to the force touch trackpad in my new Macbook Pro. 
 It's really remarkable. When the laptop is switched off, you can feel it 
 for what it really is, a flat surface that doesn't give at all when you 
 press it. But when the machine is on, the haptic technology really makes 
 it feel like you're clicking. Makes me look forward to 3D touch on my 6s 
 Plus next week.
 Has anyone found a use for the force touch gestures, such as a deep press, 
 with VO? I take it VO can't yet differentiate between a deep press and a 
 standard tap?
 Jonathan Mosen
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 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
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event detected

[Michael Babcock]

good day;
i just registered for a webinar, and have never tried to do this in the past 
(Siri is my friend and normally i ask him/her to set my appointments for me).
My phone isn’t next to me, and i’ll admit i’m being a little lazy tonight.
I heard voiceover in my confirmation email say
“event detected”
when i red the following text in my webinar confirmation message:
 
Monday, 21 September 2015
02:00 pm Eastern Time (US and Canada), GMT -4

Is there a way to add this information to my calendar quickly? or will i have 
to manually copy and paste the title of the webinar and set the date and time?
Just wondering what ‘event detected’ means, and or is it just a placeholder for 
a voiceover user to know that a date is being shown?
thanks for any help with interacting with this type of content; and BTW, my 
friend SIRI added the event for me; i ended up grabbing my phone before i 
finished this message.
Keep being more then wonderful.

Michael Babcock
Your Blind Digital Marketing Partner.
@payown on periscope and twitter.
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Is iPhoto obsolete now?

[Christina C.]

Ok, I am behind I guess. I rarely used iPhoto on the Mac since I can’t see the 
photos. Anyways, occasionally I do have family  photos or videos to organize. 
My family members take the pics. Anyways, I opened iPhoto and I got a message 
that my photos were migrated to Photos. So, is iPhoto obsolete? Is the photos 
app the replacement and is it just as useful. I’m just confused. Is it 
basically voiceOver accessible, besides the obvious fact that I cannot see the 
photos themselves? :) I mainly use it to store the pictures for my family and 
don’t mess with or edit the actual photos.

Thanks,
Christina

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Re: Dropbox on Mac (was: Scanning text on the MAC)

[Eileen Scrivani]

Hi Phil, 

Last year when I first got the Mac, I used the help feature and did go through 
some of the tutorials.  Some of it made sense and a lot more of it just made me 
feel lost.  Over the last year, I confess, I reverted back to Windows since I 
can do things so much better and faster than on the Mac.  My reason for buying 
the Mac Book was & still is that I expect this Windows computer to crash within 
a year or two.  The last 2 to  3 
Windows computers I have owned have all had problems that were not repairable.  
Out of disgust I decided I wanted to learn how to use the Mac before it becomes 
an emergency situation.  So, a year later here I am still struggling to try and 
make sense of the layout and how things work.  I know its ridiculous and I’m 
left just feeling really stupid!!

So, sorry for all my very basic questions.  I will re-visit the help like you 
suggest.  Thanks.

Eileen

From: Phil Halton 
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 3:47 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Dropbox on Mac (was: Scanning text on the MAC)

Eileen, one of the very best and most up-to-date tutorials on how to use voice 
over resides right there on your Mac in the help system. Press VO plus H to 
bring up the voiceover help system and arrow down until you see QuickStart 
guide. Press vo enter on that and you will be brought into the tutorial which 
is in the form of an HTML document segmented into chapters. When I first got my 
mac I read that tutorial voraciously until I understood most all there was to 
know about voiceover. It really is an excellent guide on how to use the Mac and 
if you read through it you'll be an expert in no time.
Good luck

Sent from my IPhone


> On Sep 19, 2015, at 12:58 PM, Eileen Scrivani  wrote:
> 
> hi, 
> 
> Thank you all who responded to my questions.  I have DropBox downloading now 
> on the Mac.  I have been using it for a while on Windows to share files with 
> another group.  Its a matter of my learning how to use it on the Mac.  
> 
> Currently, I am reading through the Tim Sniffen book, but I find he does a 
> lot for Zoom, and I’d find it easier if there was more of a focus on VO and 
> would  rather learn more keyboard commands.  I’ll try to learn as much as I 
> can from the book … anything that will help. 
> 
> Thanks again. 
> 
> Eileen
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2015, at 11:45 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>> That link will download the software. Once it downloads, go to Finder, press 
>> cmd-option-l, and arrow down to the just-download file. Press cmd-o, and 
>> follow the prompts. Eventually, you'll sign into Dropbox, and that's it. 
>> Thereafter, Dropbox will be just a folder in Finder like any other, and you 
>> can use it like any other folder. You'll almost never need to change 
>> anything or adjust any settings. I'm hoping KNFB Reader eventually adds 
>> support for iCloud Drive, but Dropbox will work for now. Let me know if you 
>> run into problems with this, and remember that you can install Dropbox on 
>> Windows until you get more comfortable on the Mac.
>>> On Sep 19, 2015, at 10:37, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dropbox for the Mac can be found here.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
 On 9/19/2015 7:29 AM, Eileen Scrivani wrote:
 Hi Alex,
 I do have an IPhone that has the KnFB software on it and I do use it.
 The issue that comes to mind is that in processing mail, I keep records
 of bills & payments and keep files on my Windows 8 computer.
 If I were to scan important mail with the KnFB app on the IPhone then
 after saving information to a file/document, I am uncertain about
 transferring information to either my Mac Book Pro or Windows 8 computer
 for the purpose of record keeping.  I have already installed DropBox on
 my phone, but now need to figure out how to get it on the Mac Book.  It
 is the one piece to the puzzle I am still uncertain how/where to find
 software and download and install on the Mac Book.
 I’ve looked in Itunes & the App Store, but only see items for either
 Iphones or Ipads.
 Everything I do on the Mac is a major learning curve and by the time I
 get one little thing figured out how to accomplish I walk away with a
 major headache! I'm half kidding & half serious about that last statement.
 Thanks for any ideas on a workable solution to what I am trying to
 accomplish.
 Eileen
 *From:* Alex Hall 
 *Sent:* Friday, September 18, 2015 8:31 PM
 *To:* 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
 
 *Subject:* Re: Scanning text on the MAC
 The two popular ones are Prizmo ($50--don't bother with the $100
 version) or Abbyy Fine Reader. Both 

recording events.

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

I was going through keyboard help to try and figure something out, and 
discovered that on my  Yosemite system VoiceOver claims that command-VO-R is 
associated with “toggle vent recording. When I attempted to use this thinking 
it might help with what I was working on, it just dings at me.

Does anybody have any knowledge of how to use this?

Thanks,

Jonathan

Best wishes,

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Re: E-mail bug on IOS.

[Regina Alvarado]

If I am thinking of the bug he is asking about, yes, yay it is fixed! It is the 
bug that when you tapped delete it would go to reply. Yay, yay, at least no 
doing this for a while using mail! I am so happy! 

reggie & Lex

On Sep 16, 2015, at 7:36 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

I am not running iOS 9. The bugs are in iOS 8.



> On 16 Sep 2015, at 10:56 pm, Michael  wrote:
> 
> Could you be more specific about what bug you're talking about in mail? I 
> haven't observed any as of yet and been running iOS nine cents July.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2015, at 2:30 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> I don't know if anyone has got IOS9 on there I phone yet but if they have 
>> and it's released, can someone tell me if the e-mail bug has been fixed 
>> please?  Also, the bug where Voice Over did not focus properly on I cons, is 
>> that fixed too please?  Please could someone tell me when El Capitan will be 
>> released as I don't know.
>> 
>> I hope my questions are allowed now meaning we can ask I phone questions on 
>> here now.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Kawal.
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Re: Migrating iTunes Library from PC to MacBook Air

[Craig Werner]

Thanks to Jonathan and Grant for very helpful posts. Fortunately, I have
not changed the path of my iTunes library on my PC, so it's pretty likely
the copying will go smoothly.

Craig


On Saturday, September 19, 2015, Grant  wrote:

> Hi Craig,
>
> As you may know, on a PC the iTunes library is typically stored in
> c:\users\username\music\iTunes. You can force your library folder to be
> somewhere else if you want, but that’s where it typically is. Inside that
> folder, there’s a sub-folder called iTunes Media, which has subfolders like
> audiobooks, music, and podcasts where your media is organized. On a Mac,
> iTunes uses an identical structure; you can force the library folder to be
> somewhere else if desired, but typically it’s under the music folder in
> your home directory. So, copying the folder from the music folder on your
> PC to the music folder on your Mac, then opening up iTunes on the Mac,
> should do the trick. You’ll be presented with the same library you were
> using on your PC.
>
> There are two exceptions, however. One is if you have changed the location
> of the iTunes Media folder, though this is unlikely unless you specifically
> remember doing so. You can check this in iTunes on your PC by opening the
> edit menu, choosing preferences, then looking under the advanced tab. If
> you’ve moved your iTunes Media folder, you can move it back to its usual
> location before doing the copy. The other exception is if you’ve stored
> some media outside of your iTunes Media folder. That media won’t be copied.
> To make sure this isn’t a problem, before you copy the folder, open iTunes
> on your PC, open the file menu, choose the library submenu, then choose
> “organize library”. If necessary, you’ll be given the option to organize
> your library so that everything’s contained within the iTunes Media folder.
>
> With all that out of the way, you can copy the folder normally, such as
> using the method Jonathan described.
>
> Keep us posted if you have further questions. That’s what the list is for!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Grant
>
>
> On Sep 19, 2015, at 5:50:30 AM, Craig Werner  > wrote:
>
> Thanks for the reassurance, Jonathan.  I have never copied from machine to
> machine before.  Am I to assume that the Mac will honor the same folder
> structure for my library as the PC does?  I won’t clutter the list with
> more thanks, but be assured I’ll read your response.
>
> Craig
>
> On Sep 19, 2015, at 2:10 AM, Jonathan Mosen  > wrote:
>
> Hi Craig, I copied my library across the network from one machine to
> another. Was quite straightforward.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org 
>
> On 19/09/2015, at 10:15 AM, Craig Werner  > wrote:
>
> Greetings to the list.
>
> Presently,my iTunes library lives on my iPhone 5 and my Windows 7 PC.  I
> would like to put the library on my new MacBook Air.  I’m under the
> impression that the Windows Migration Assistant is the best way to transfer
> the library.  If I use this approach, is the software accessible with a
> Windows screen reader?  Are there other  methods of which I should be aware?
>
> Thanks for all help.
>
> Craig
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Re: who can upgrade to El Capitan

[Jeffrey Shockley]

Hi,
Just adding to this, any Mac that can run Yosemite can also run El Capiton. 
That’s what I found by looking at various sources by Googling OS X El Capiton 
and also, some release notes on the Apple Developer website. It also looks like 
El Capiton has the same system requirements pretty much as Yosemite.
Hope this helps,
Jeffrey
> On Sep 19, 2015, at 3:16 PM, Singing Sparrow  wrote:
> 
> Do control option m and go down to about this mac. and do control option 
> space.
> When did you purchase your mac? if you are running yosemity you can update to 
> el captain
> 
> On 9/19/2015 1:31 PM, Christina C. wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> Where do I get the info about which Macs can upgrade to El Capitan? Also, 
>> how do I find out what model of computer I have. Will the Mac App store 
>> automatically let me know if I can upgrade or not by prompting me to upgrade 
>> or does the App store automatically prompt me to upgrade my computer even if 
>> it’s too old?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Christina
>> 
> 
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Re: Radium on the Mac

[Mary Otten]

Thanks, Phil. I did some more experimenting before seeing your message, and I 
discovered that there is some kind of fluky thing you can do by interacting 
with the search field and typing in a search. Then you get out of the search 
field and move around and sometimes magically the button appears to go to your 
favorites table.  it's very strange. I think the method you described with Vo 
plus command plus T will be faster and more reliable.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 19, 2015, at 12:38 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> Mary, here's the trick,  Press that unlabeled button, and then press vo plus 
> command plus T to move to the table. Interact with the table and you will 
> find your favorited stations. Pressing the unlabeled button changes the 
> search categories scroll area into the saved stations table list. You will 
> have to do this each time you want to get to your table of saved stations. 
> Very strange, but that's how it works.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2015, at 3:13 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> It has been a long time since I used radium on the Mac. I use it on my phone 
>> and my iPad quite a bit. I just went to the Mac app, which is up-to-date. I 
>> am not seeing any of the stations which I had previously saved. All I get is 
>> a scroll area that has a bunch of categories presumably for me to browse. 
>> But I'm not seeing any of my safe stations. It seems to me that this problem 
>> has been discussed before, but I don't remember what the solution was if 
>> any. I did find an unlabeled button, which I pressed with no resulting 
>> action.
>> Mary
>> 
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Re: E-mail bug on IOS.

[sadam . lists]

Hi Kawal., 

The next version of OS X will be released September 30. 

Kind regards, 

Sadam Ahmed 

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> I'm she, rather than a he.
> On 19 Sep 2015, at 22:31, Regina Alvarado  wrote:
> 
> If I am thinking of the bug he is asking about, yes, yay it is fixed! It is 
> the bug that when you tapped delete it would go to reply. Yay, yay, at least 
> no doing this for a while using mail! I am so happy! 
> 
> reggie & Lex
> 
> On Sep 16, 2015, at 7:36 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> I am not running iOS 9. The bugs are in iOS 8.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 16 Sep 2015, at 10:56 pm, Michael  wrote:
>> 
>> Could you be more specific about what bug you're talking about in mail? I 
>> haven't observed any as of yet and been running iOS nine cents July.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 16, 2015, at 2:30 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> 
>>> I don't know if anyone has got IOS9 on there I phone yet but if they have 
>>> and it's released, can someone tell me if the e-mail bug has been fixed 
>>> please?  Also, the bug where Voice Over did not focus properly on I cons, 
>>> is that fixed too please?  Please could someone tell me when El Capitan 
>>> will be released as I don't know.
>>> 
>>> I hope my questions are allowed now meaning we can ask I phone questions on 
>>> here now.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
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Re: E-mail bug on IOS.

[Mary Otten]

I have recently upgraded my phone, and I am happy to report that, thus far, I 
have not seen that bud where you hit delete and it thincs you hit reply. I hope 
this is not just a lucky fluke, but that this bug is in fact squashed. Good 
riddance!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 19, 2015, at 3:55 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
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> I'm she, rather than a he.
> On 19 Sep 2015, at 22:31, Regina Alvarado  wrote:
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> If I am thinking of the bug he is asking about, yes, yay it is fixed! It is 
> the bug that when you tapped delete it would go to reply. Yay, yay, at least 
> no doing this for a while using mail! I am so happy! 
> 
> reggie & Lex
> 
> On Sep 16, 2015, at 7:36 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> I am not running iOS 9. The bugs are in iOS 8.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 16 Sep 2015, at 10:56 pm, Michael  wrote:
>> 
>> Could you be more specific about what bug you're talking about in mail? I 
>> haven't observed any as of yet and been running iOS nine cents July.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 16, 2015, at 2:30 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> 
>>> I don't know if anyone has got IOS9 on there I phone yet but if they have 
>>> and it's released, can someone tell me if the e-mail bug has been fixed 
>>> please?  Also, the bug where Voice Over did not focus properly on I cons, 
>>> is that fixed too please?  Please could someone tell me when El Capitan 
>>> will be released as I don't know.
>>> 
>>> I hope my questions are allowed now meaning we can ask I phone questions on 
>>> here now.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
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Re: E-mail bug on IOS.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

I'm she, rather than a he.
On 19 Sep 2015, at 22:31, Regina Alvarado  wrote:

If I am thinking of the bug he is asking about, yes, yay it is fixed! It is the 
bug that when you tapped delete it would go to reply. Yay, yay, at least no 
doing this for a while using mail! I am so happy! 

reggie & Lex

On Sep 16, 2015, at 7:36 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

I am not running iOS 9. The bugs are in iOS 8.



> On 16 Sep 2015, at 10:56 pm, Michael  wrote:
> 
> Could you be more specific about what bug you're talking about in mail? I 
> haven't observed any as of yet and been running iOS nine cents July.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2015, at 2:30 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> I don't know if anyone has got IOS9 on there I phone yet but if they have 
>> and it's released, can someone tell me if the e-mail bug has been fixed 
>> please?  Also, the bug where Voice Over did not focus properly on I cons, is 
>> that fixed too please?  Please could someone tell me when El Capitan will be 
>> released as I don't know.
>> 
>> I hope my questions are allowed now meaning we can ask I phone questions on 
>> here now.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
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Re: Anyone know how to play all songs by an artist on an iPod or iPhone?

[Les Kriegler]

Donna, try this. You Siri and speak the phrase play followed by the name of the 
artist. I am not running iOS 9, but I have run this with iOS 8 .4 and it works 
for me.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 19, 2015, at 11:07 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> George,
> 
> I think this may have changed with IOS9.  Tonight I tried following your 
> suggestions, an wen I tapped Play, all that was played was the selected album.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Sep 14, 2015, at 7:44 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi George,
>> 
>> Mostly we're speaking the same language.  For me, the My Music tab is in the 
>> lower left, but all other steps work until I get to the More button.  When I 
>> tap on that, I get a whole bunch of options such as share artist, Start 
>> Radio station, Make available off-line,  etc, but nothing about playing all 
>> songs.  have you updated to the latest IOS?  I'm just starting to wonder if 
>> we're running the same software version, especially given that you're 
>> finding the My Music Tab on the Right, whereas mine is on the left.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna. 
>>> On Sep 14, 2015, at 7:25 AM, george b  wrote:
>>> 
>>> donna
>>> 
>>> open the music app on your phone
>>> 
>>> in the lower right corner of the app the 5th tab across the bottom is my 
>>> music double tap on this tab
>>> now in the upper left corner of the screen below the status line is my 
>>> account button, library button, and playlist button, double tap on library 
>>> button
>>> now flick with one finger across the screen to you hear category button 
>>> with the selected defalt category name. if it is not artist then double tap 
>>> on this button and double tap on artest.
>>> Now you should have all your music listed by artest name in a list with the 
>>> name of the artest and number of alblums and number of songs
>>> To play all from that artest, flick up with one finger and you will hear 
>>> play, more, and activate, double tap on play and it will start playing all 
>>> from that artist.
>>> If you do not get these choices when you flick up then do the rotor to you 
>>> hear actions and then it will work.
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>>> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 04:31
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Anyone know how to play all songs by an artist on an iPod or 
>>> iPhone?
>>> 
>>> George,
>>> 
>>> there is no Music Button in the bottom right of the screen.  In the Bottom 
>>> right of the screen is the Connect Tab.
>>> Best,
>>> Donna
 On Sep 13, 2015, at 2:10 PM, george b  wrote:
 
 Open music
 
 Double tap onmy music in the bottom right corner of the screen
 Double tap on it says catagories and what is current like jondra button 
 and double tap on that and the in the list double tap on artest
 Now you will get a popluatted list of your artest in your music.
 Double tap on the aretst
 Then follow the prompt from there -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
 Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 11:57
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Anyone know how to play all songs by an artist on an iPod or 
 iPhone?
 
 Hi Alan,
 
 thanks for responding.  I don't have any problems with playlists, the 
 playlist tab at the bottom is very easy to find.  What I would like to do 
 is be able to pick a specific artist, say Erik Clapton, and play all the 
 songs that I have by him in my library.  You used to be able to do this, 
 Music would play one album and then just go on to the next one.  the weird 
 thing is, that once, I actually did see the all Song button, and was able 
 to select it, but I haven't seen that button since that one time.
 Cheers,
 Donna
> On Sep 13, 2015, at 1:34 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Donna,
> 
> I sync my desired playlists to my iPhone 6 so that my iPhone actually
> contains the music I enjoy listening to as opposed to using Apple Music or
> another streaming service. The way I would listen to a particular artist 
> on
> my iPhone would be to call up Siri and say something like "Play Bruno Mars
> shuffled or not shuffled." I'm not sure of the actual words to request the
> playing not to be shuffled but give Siri a try and see if she meets your
> needs.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 1:11 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Anyone know how to play all songs by an artist on an iPod or
> iPhone?
> 
> 

reading braille until the bard returns

[Devin Prater]

Hi all. So I have this new braille display, and would love to read... But BARD 
Mobile hasn't been updated in years, and I don't have a bookshare membership or 
anymore. So now, have can I read book in braille format? I would read them in 
iBooks or something, but iOS does not support style info, like italics, which 
is pretty necessary in some newer books. So, any suggestions? Should I just 
give up on braille format and just deal with iBooks? 

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Re: E-mail bug on IOS.

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

I saw this issue exactly once and it was while running IOS 9.

Best wishes,

Jonathan



> On Sep 17, 2015, at 17:51, eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I just watt to add that there are times in 8.4.1 mail I lose all the buttons 
> at the bottom, which includes move, delete, reply, and compose. assentially, 
> I need to close out of that particular email and reopen it to get the bottom 
> buttons to show again. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 17, 2015, at 9:51 AM, David Chittenden  wrote:
>> 
>> The delete button bug appears to be fixed.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 18 Sep 2015, at 03:08, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Michael.
>>> 
>>> I thought I had explained that in one of my previous messages some time 
>>> ago.  If not, then I apologise.
>>> 
>>> So here goes again.
>>> 
>>> If in IOS8, you opened your mailbox, you could not always focus on every 
>>> message.  Also when in a body of a message, you could find the delete 
>>> button and Voice Over would land on the reply button instead.
>>> 
>>> Another bug I found in IOS8 was for instance:
>>> 
>>> 1. Open settings.
>>> 
>>> 2. flick right and pretend you were looking for phone.
>>> 
>>> 3.  You'd pass reminders and suddenly Voice Over would say apple pay or 
>>> compass.  You'd flick left and you'd notice that it had missed, face time, 
>>> messages and phone.
>>> 
>>> I hope this clarifies.
>>> 
>>> Kawal. 
>>> On 17 Sep 2015, at 00:37, Michael Babcock  wrote:
>>> 
>>> OK, but what i’m asking is what bugs are you experiencing an IOS eight? If 
>>> I had A better clarification of the "bugs" you're experiencing, I could've 
>>> that you know if they are present in IOS nine or not.
>>> Michael Babcock
>>> Your Blind Digital Marketing Partner.
>>> @payown on periscope and twitter.
>>> http://yourownpay.com/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sep 16, 2015, at 4:36 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
 
 I am not running iOS 9. The bugs are in iOS 8.
 
 
 
> On 16 Sep 2015, at 10:56 pm, Michael  wrote:
> 
> Could you be more specific about what bug you're talking about in mail? I 
> haven't observed any as of yet and been running iOS nine cents July.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2015, at 2:30 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> I don't know if anyone has got IOS9 on there I phone yet but if they 
>> have and it's released, can someone tell me if the e-mail bug has been 
>> fixed please?  Also, the bug where Voice Over did not focus properly on 
>> I cons, is that fixed too please?  Please could someone tell me when El 
>> Capitan will be released as I don't know.
>> 
>> I hope my questions are allowed now meaning we can ask I phone questions 
>> on here now.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Kawal.
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Re: Braille Software for Mac??

[Eileen Scrivani]

Hi Again ... 

I was able to download the Louis Braille program/installer (it seems to me) to 
my Mac Book.  It is listed in the downloads folder/area on the computer.  
However, when I issue whatever the command is to start the installer the Mac 
comes back saying something about the file/installer is from an unknown source 
and can’t install or run – something to that extent – I forget the exact 
wording.  

I have selected the “continue” button, but I don’t think its doing anything.  

Does this mean it will not run on the laptop?  It is possible I’m not hitting 
the correct command to get it to run/install, I’m just not certain.  

Thanks.

Eileen

From: Jim Gatteys 
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 7:08 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Braille Software for Mac??

Louis for mac works for me.  It is not as intuitive as DBT but I did get to 
work and now that Understand it it is just fine.  I don't do a lot of 
translation but it is nice for the occasional file.  You can get it from the 
link listed below. 
Jim

http://www.cucat.org/projects/louis/

  On Sep 18, 2015, at 6:01 PM, Eileen Scrivani  wrote:

  HI All,
   
  I’m also wondering if there is any translation software for the Mac that will 
allow for Braille translation/production on the Mac without having to install 
windows and running DBT under windows??  Thanks.
   
  Eileen

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RE: E-mail bug on IOS.

[george b]

And what does that have with the subject line

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 16:09
To: Macvisionaries 
Subject: Re: E-mail bug on IOS.

Thanks so much.
On 20 Sep 2015, at 00:01, sadam.li...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Kawal., 

The next version of OS X will be released September 30. 

Kind regards, 

Sadam Ahmed 

Sent from my iPhone 

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> 
> I'm she, rather than a he.
> On 19 Sep 2015, at 22:31, Regina Alvarado  wrote:
> 
> If I am thinking of the bug he is asking about, yes, yay it is fixed! It is 
> the bug that when you tapped delete it would go to reply. Yay, yay, at least 
> no doing this for a while using mail! I am so happy! 
> 
> reggie & Lex
> 
> On Sep 16, 2015, at 7:36 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> I am not running iOS 9. The bugs are in iOS 8.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 16 Sep 2015, at 10:56 pm, Michael  wrote:
>> 
>> Could you be more specific about what bug you're talking about in mail? I 
>> haven't observed any as of yet and been running iOS nine cents July.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 16, 2015, at 2:30 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> 
>>> I don't know if anyone has got IOS9 on there I phone yet but if they have 
>>> and it's released, can someone tell me if the e-mail bug has been fixed 
>>> please?  Also, the bug where Voice Over did not focus properly on I cons, 
>>> is that fixed too please?  Please could someone tell me when El Capitan 
>>> will be released as I don't know.
>>> 
>>> I hope my questions are allowed now meaning we can ask I phone questions on 
>>> here now.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
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Re: who can upgrade to El Capitan

[Singing Sparrow]

Do control option m and go down to about this mac. and do control option 
space.
When did you purchase your mac? if you are running yosemity you can 
update to el captain


On 9/19/2015 1:31 PM, Christina C. wrote:

Hello all,

Where do I get the info about which Macs can upgrade to El Capitan? Also, how 
do I find out what model of computer I have. Will the Mac App store 
automatically let me know if I can upgrade or not by prompting me to upgrade or 
does the App store automatically prompt me to upgrade my computer even if it’s 
too old?

Thanks,
Christina




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Re: Dropbox on Mac (was: Scanning text on the MAC)

[Phil Halton]

Eileen, one of the very best and most up-to-date tutorials on how to use voice 
over resides right there on your Mac in the help system. Press VO plus H to 
bring up the voiceover help system and arrow down until you see QuickStart 
guide. Press vo enter on that and you will be brought into the tutorial which 
is in the form of an HTML document segmented into chapters. When I first got my 
mac I read that tutorial voraciously until I understood most all there was to 
know about voiceover. It really is an excellent guide on how to use the Mac and 
if you read through it you'll be an expert in no time.
Good luck

Sent from my IPhone


> On Sep 19, 2015, at 12:58 PM, Eileen Scrivani  wrote:
> 
> hi, 
> 
> Thank you all who responded to my questions.  I have DropBox downloading now 
> on the Mac.  I have been using it for a while on Windows to share files with 
> another group.  Its a matter of my learning how to use it on the Mac.  
> 
> Currently, I am reading through the Tim Sniffen book, but I find he does a 
> lot for Zoom, and I’d find it easier if there was more of a focus on VO and 
> would  rather learn more keyboard commands.  I’ll try to learn as much as I 
> can from the book … anything that will help. 
> 
> Thanks again. 
> 
> Eileen
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2015, at 11:45 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>> That link will download the software. Once it downloads, go to Finder, press 
>> cmd-option-l, and arrow down to the just-download file. Press cmd-o, and 
>> follow the prompts. Eventually, you'll sign into Dropbox, and that's it. 
>> Thereafter, Dropbox will be just a folder in Finder like any other, and you 
>> can use it like any other folder. You'll almost never need to change 
>> anything or adjust any settings. I'm hoping KNFB Reader eventually adds 
>> support for iCloud Drive, but Dropbox will work for now. Let me know if you 
>> run into problems with this, and remember that you can install Dropbox on 
>> Windows until you get more comfortable on the Mac.
>>> On Sep 19, 2015, at 10:37, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dropbox for the Mac can be found here.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
 On 9/19/2015 7:29 AM, Eileen Scrivani wrote:
 Hi Alex,
 I do have an IPhone that has the KnFB software on it and I do use it.
 The issue that comes to mind is that in processing mail, I keep records
 of bills & payments and keep files on my Windows 8 computer.
 If I were to scan important mail with the KnFB app on the IPhone then
 after saving information to a file/document, I am uncertain about
 transferring information to either my Mac Book Pro or Windows 8 computer
 for the purpose of record keeping.  I have already installed DropBox on
 my phone, but now need to figure out how to get it on the Mac Book.  It
 is the one piece to the puzzle I am still uncertain how/where to find
 software and download and install on the Mac Book.
 I’ve looked in Itunes & the App Store, but only see items for either
 Iphones or Ipads.
 Everything I do on the Mac is a major learning curve and by the time I
 get one little thing figured out how to accomplish I walk away with a
 major headache! I'm half kidding & half serious about that last statement.
 Thanks for any ideas on a workable solution to what I am trying to
 accomplish.
 Eileen
 *From:* Alex Hall 
 *Sent:* Friday, September 18, 2015 8:31 PM
 *To:* 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
 
 *Subject:* Re: Scanning text on the MAC
 The two popular ones are Prizmo ($50--don't bother with the $100
 version) or Abbyy Fine Reader. Both seem to do well, though I haven't
 compared them side by side. If you have an iOS device, I have to say
 that I find the KNFB Reader app to be more convenient and just as
 accurate, especially now that it has a stand mode.
> On Sep 18, 2015, at 19:03, percygarrett  wrote:
> 
> Can anyone recommend scanning software, a scanning app or program for
 the MAC Mini? My snail mail and other printed documents are stacking up.
 Thanks for all recommendations.
> Percy Garrett
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Dionipher Presas Herrera"
 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 4:48 PM
> Subject: Re: annoying quicknav problem in osx 10.10 and 10.11
> 
> 
> when your on the text boxes you can turn off quick nav by pressing
 left and right arrow, i think that is not difficult. :)
>> On 17 Sep 2015, at 10:34 PM, William Windels
  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> 

Re: Is iPhoto obsolete now?

[Alex Hall]

Yes to all. iPhoto is gone; Photos is the replacement; it is accessible, so far 
as I know. It requires a lot of interacting in places, but it's usable. That 
said, I use it less often than you do, so I can't give much detail, sorry.
> On Sep 19, 2015, at 14:42, Christina C.  wrote:
> 
> Ok, I am behind I guess. I rarely used iPhoto on the Mac since I can’t see 
> the photos. Anyways, occasionally I do have family  photos or videos to 
> organize. My family members take the pics. Anyways, I opened iPhoto and I got 
> a message that my photos were migrated to Photos. So, is iPhoto obsolete? Is 
> the photos app the replacement and is it just as useful. I’m just confused. 
> Is it basically voiceOver accessible, besides the obvious fact that I cannot 
> see the photos themselves? :) I mainly use it to store the pictures for my 
> family and don’t mess with or edit the actual photos.
> 
> Thanks,
> Christina
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Re: right mouse click

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

tell application “VoiceOver” to click once with the right button If this is 
something you need to do frequently and you can’t get the developer to correct 
their system to work with the contextual menu command of VoiceOver,.
You would use the VoiceOver library of applescript to move the mouse to the vo 
cursor and then there is a mouse click command that works something like: 


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Re: Finally figured out how to not have every email in a thread read to me

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

I've never had this happen to me.

What I do is open  a thread by VO space, interact, VO left to the beginning of 
a thread and vo left and right and it reads me each individual message from the 
person.  It does not give me lists and lists of e-mail addresses.  Just who the 
message was from and the body of the message.  If I don't like the thread, I 
just do command W and hit the delete key and all the thread has gone.

Kawal.
On 18 Sep 2015, at 04:29, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:

Hi Brian, I just wanted to thank you very much for this. This is one thing that 
has driven me so nuts that I've almost gone back to using Outlook inWindows.
To me, having to sit through a huge list of names in a long thread before you 
can even know what its subject is is just very bad design.
It's a shame we have to do all this interacting and getting to the field, but 
it's worth it on a list like this when threads can get very long.
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> On 18/09/2015, at 11:15 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
> Hey all,
> 
> I apologize if this has been posted before as I just stumbled on to by 
> accident. One of the things that has driven me bonkers in Yosemite mail is 
> when you go to a thread in mac mail and every ones email address is read to 
> you before the subject as it might not be a subject that interests you. Well 
> today I came across a way to get around having everyones email address read 
> to you. When going through your mail interact with the message before you 
> open it, VO right arrow to the subject now open the message with return close 
> it after looking at all the messages in the thread with a VO w and hit the 
> delete key, now because you are interacting with the subject you are taken to 
> the next message in your mailbox and none of the email addresses are read to 
> you. The only down side is VO does not read you how many messages are in a 
> thread but if you are like me and do not care to hear everyones email address 
> this is the first way I found around it. Hope this helps some.
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Re: E-mail bug on IOS.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Thanks so much.
On 20 Sep 2015, at 00:01, sadam.li...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Kawal., 

The next version of OS X will be released September 30. 

Kind regards, 

Sadam Ahmed 

Sent from my iPhone 

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> On 20 Sep 2015, at 8:55 am, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> I'm she, rather than a he.
> On 19 Sep 2015, at 22:31, Regina Alvarado  wrote:
> 
> If I am thinking of the bug he is asking about, yes, yay it is fixed! It is 
> the bug that when you tapped delete it would go to reply. Yay, yay, at least 
> no doing this for a while using mail! I am so happy! 
> 
> reggie & Lex
> 
> On Sep 16, 2015, at 7:36 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> I am not running iOS 9. The bugs are in iOS 8.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 16 Sep 2015, at 10:56 pm, Michael  wrote:
>> 
>> Could you be more specific about what bug you're talking about in mail? I 
>> haven't observed any as of yet and been running iOS nine cents July.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 16, 2015, at 2:30 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> 
>>> I don't know if anyone has got IOS9 on there I phone yet but if they have 
>>> and it's released, can someone tell me if the e-mail bug has been fixed 
>>> please?  Also, the bug where Voice Over did not focus properly on I cons, 
>>> is that fixed too please?  Please could someone tell me when El Capitan 
>>> will be released as I don't know.
>>> 
>>> I hope my questions are allowed now meaning we can ask I phone questions on 
>>> here now.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
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Re: IOS 9 impressions?

[Alex Hall]

I'm not sure why, but I can't reproduce this. If I triple tap the shift key, I 
can type multiple letters, and they're all in caps. I can then tap shift again 
and return to normal. Have I misunderstood the bug?
> On Sep 19, 2015, at 19:26, Josh  wrote:
> 
> Hello all following this thred,
>   I wrote to report this issue to Apple and received feedback
> regarding how to work around it. There is apparently two ways and as
> one poster points out here possibly a third way. Apple support says go
> to "settings>general>accessibility>keyboard" When in keyboard they
> suggest to turn off lowercase keys. This will take some time getting
> use to as it appears to lock it in uppercase and in order to get it
> out of uppercase you have to remember to tap on the shift key. The
> alternate method that Apple recommends is to start typing the message
> and when you need to lock shift in capslock mode tap the shift key and
> get it into uppercase mode then use the roter and once you are on
> action flick up or down till you get to capslock. They say they are
> looking into it though.
> 
> On 9/18/15, Eileen Scrivani  wrote:
>> I had this exact problem the other day after updating.  It was on the screen
>> where you need to re-enter the passcode after updates are done.  It would
>> take a one finger double tap to put uppercase on a single letter, but could
>> not do an entire string in caps.
>> 
>> I confess I haven’t had a reason to type and use the caps lock.  I’m using
>> an IPhone 6.
>> 
>> Eileen
>> 
>> 
>> From: Josh
>> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 12:29 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: IOS 9 impressions?
>> 
>> What is the new way to lock upper case when typing out a text or
>> something? When I do the triple tap on the shift key it does not lock
>> for me. Is anyone else experiencing this?
>> 
>> On 9/17/15, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> Anyone else install IOS 9 and what are your impressions?
>>> 
>>> I have it running now for less than 24 hours of course.  Battery drain
>>> seems
>>> higher but I probably need a phone restart that usually clears battery
>>> issues.  I like VO saying cap and the letter now instead of uppercase or
>>> capitol, and the replacement for passbook seems easy to use.  Other than
>>> that not to many impressions yet.  What are you all experiencing?
>>> 
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Re: system integrity protection

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

Well, I have exactly the opposite plans, I will leave it on unless I come to a 
situation where I need to turn it off. I am not quite sure how much safer in 
practice the new system will be, but it does put an additional layer of 
protection between critical files and applications that believe they can place 
files wherever they want. 

I have seen too many badly written installers that feel they can muck with any 
other application/s configurations too allow this as default. If system 
integrity works as promised then the need to run fix permissions will 
completely go away. In fact, I have heard that it has been removed from disk 
utility. 

Questions do abound, If I turn off system integrity and then add a file to 
/usr/bin (yes, I know /usr/local/bin is the appropriate place) and then turn 
system integrity back on, will that file be removed?  Presently, the only 
reason, I can think of that this will get in my way is if I decide to load a 
porting package and it decides to install in /the directories reserved for 
vendor supplied files. 



Best wishes,

Jonathan



> On Sep 18, 2015, at 14:24, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> I plan on turning it off, I don't want someone else deciding what I can and 
> cannot do with my computers. Of course, each user must decide if they want to 
> do this, but for me it will definitely be disabled.
> Original message:
>> I would be careful before turning this off. I believe that dropbox will 
>> still work, but just in a different integration with the finder. These 
>> solutions are designed to make the Macintosh more secure by only allowing 
>> applications with a specific internal flag set to have access to the 
>> essential parts of the Operating System. Apple knows that Dropbox / One 
>> Drive / Google Docs are essential functions of the modern computer user and 
>> will not block them entirely. What they are doing is preventing programs 
>> from saying for example Hey I'll replace  the open dialogs available in all 
>> applications with a new one. So, it will be that much more difficult for 
>> applications to take read and write to every file and peripheral on the 
>> computer without permission from the kernel.
> 
>> I underestand the default folder X application that power users use to 
>> re-route certain files to a different spot in more hampered than dropbox.
> 
>> Ifyou want details on this security option, there was a very interesting 
>> talk given at WWDC which I think is available on Youtube on the enhanced 
>> security of 10.11, and all of my opioons expressed above are based on this 
>> tak.
> 
> 
> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
> 
>> On Sep 18, 2015, at 10:07 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
 From what I have read, you boot in to recovery, go to utilities and
>>> choose the security application, then you uncheck the system integrity 
>>> protection check box.
>>> Original message:
 Hi,
> 
 Can you give steps on how to disable this feature in recovery in general 
 terms?
> 
 Thanks.
> 
 Eileen
> 
 Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 17, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> Hey everyone, I've been doing some reading on what will be coming in 
> version 10.11, el Capitan, it does appear as though Apple is getting more 
> restrictive with each release. In 10.10 they introduced kext signing 
> which only allows you to install kernel extentions that are signed by 
> Apple. Now, in 10.11, they are introducing what is called system 
> integrity protection. In a nutshell, what this does is prevent any 
> program from accessing or binding to running processes such as the finder 
> or dock. One program that apparently is affected by this is dropbox, the 
> finder integration will no longer work. Basically, it requires all 
> applications to be sandboxed, even those that are installed from outside 
> the app store. Even if a program requests elevated permissions where you 
> have to type in your password, that will no longer matter, the program 
> will no longer have this access. Fortunately, there will be a way to 
> disable this from the recovery, and that will be one of the first things 
> I do once I upgrade.
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RE: Is iPhoto obsolete now?

[george b]

iPhotos is gone and Photos replaced it and it is more accessable

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Christina C.
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 11:43
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Is iPhoto obsolete now?

Ok, I am behind I guess. I rarely used iPhoto on the Mac since I can’t see the 
photos. Anyways, occasionally I do have family  photos or videos to organize. 
My family members take the pics. Anyways, I opened iPhoto and I got a message 
that my photos were migrated to Photos. So, is iPhoto obsolete? Is the photos 
app the replacement and is it just as useful. I’m just confused. Is it 
basically voiceOver accessible, besides the obvious fact that I cannot see the 
photos themselves? :) I mainly use it to store the pictures for my family and 
don’t mess with or edit the actual photos.

Thanks,
Christina

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Re: IOS 9 impressions?

[Josh]

Hello all following this thred,
   I wrote to report this issue to Apple and received feedback
regarding how to work around it. There is apparently two ways and as
one poster points out here possibly a third way. Apple support says go
to "settings>general>accessibility>keyboard" When in keyboard they
suggest to turn off lowercase keys. This will take some time getting
use to as it appears to lock it in uppercase and in order to get it
out of uppercase you have to remember to tap on the shift key. The
alternate method that Apple recommends is to start typing the message
and when you need to lock shift in capslock mode tap the shift key and
get it into uppercase mode then use the roter and once you are on
action flick up or down till you get to capslock. They say they are
looking into it though.

On 9/18/15, Eileen Scrivani  wrote:
> I had this exact problem the other day after updating.  It was on the screen
> where you need to re-enter the passcode after updates are done.  It would
> take a one finger double tap to put uppercase on a single letter, but could
> not do an entire string in caps.
>
> I confess I haven’t had a reason to type and use the caps lock.  I’m using
> an IPhone 6.
>
> Eileen
>
>
> From: Josh
> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 12:29 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 9 impressions?
>
> What is the new way to lock upper case when typing out a text or
> something? When I do the triple tap on the shift key it does not lock
> for me. Is anyone else experiencing this?
>
> On 9/17/15, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> Anyone else install IOS 9 and what are your impressions?
>>
>> I have it running now for less than 24 hours of course.  Battery drain
>> seems
>> higher but I probably need a phone restart that usually clears battery
>> issues.  I like VO saying cap and the letter now instead of uppercase or
>> capitol, and the replacement for passbook seems easy to use.  Other than
>> that not to many impressions yet.  What are you all experiencing?
>>
>>
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who can upgrade to El Capitan

[Christina C.]

Hello all,

Where do I get the info about which Macs can upgrade to El Capitan? Also, how 
do I find out what model of computer I have. Will the Mac App store 
automatically let me know if I can upgrade or not by prompting me to upgrade or 
does the App store automatically prompt me to upgrade my computer even if it’s 
too old?

Thanks,
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Re: Migrating iTunes Library from PC to MacBook Air

[Jonathan Mosen]

Hi Craig, I copied my library across the network from one machine to another. 
Was quite straightforward.
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> On 19/09/2015, at 10:15 AM, Craig Werner  wrote:
> 
> Greetings to the list.
> 
> Presently,my iTunes library lives on my iPhone 5 and my Windows 7 PC.  I 
> would like to put the library on my new MacBook Air.  I’m under the 
> impression that the Windows Migration Assistant is the best way to transfer 
> the library.  If I use this approach, is the software accessible with a 
> Windows screen reader?  Are there other  methods of which I should be aware?
> 
> Thanks for all help.
> 
> Craig
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Re: Outlook 2016 and word 2016

[May McDonald]

I'm not sure since I got it from the company I work for.

> On Sep 18, 2015, at 11:55 PM, Singing Sparrow  wrote:
> 
> How much does the programs outlook 2016 and word 2016 cost?
> 
> On 9/18/2015 10:42 PM, May McDonald wrote:
>> Hey there.
>> 
>> For those that have tried or use outlook 2016 for the mac I'm coming to pick 
>> your brain.
>> 
>> I just downloaded outlook 2016 for the mac and it's not too bad, but I do 
>> have one question. Is there a way to add new sounds to it? I hate the sounds 
>> it uses for mail.
>> 
>> May and LD Luna Moon!
>> www.canadianlynx.ca
>> m...@canadianlynx.ca
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Slow speech with voices other than Alex

[venky . 92]

Hi,
I observed Vo to be less responsive when using Siri female enhanced voice. Any 
think I could do to fix this?
Thanks and regards,
Venkatesh.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 19-Sep-2015, at 8:30 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I just upgraded the iPad to iOS 9 and reinstalled the Russian voice. I also 
> installed the mail Siri enhanced voice. Experimenting around, it would seem 
> that both of these voices are speaking much more slowly than they should 
> based on the speech rate that is set invoice over interestingly enough, under 
> iOS 8 and I believe seven as well, the four invoices, such as the Russian 
> one, would speak at a much faster rate than the default would warrant, based 
> on the English speech. It seems like they've over corrected. Now, if I want a 
> decent Russian speech rate, I have to up the speed to more than I would have 
> for English, which is absurd, since I am far from a native speaker of Russian.
> Mary
> 
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Re: Learning Pages for the Mac

[Craig Werner]

Thank you, Anne, for your response.  I should have mentioned that I have Tim 
Sniffen’s book, and it is indeed helpful.  I’m more of a keyboard shortcut 
person than a trackpad user, so some of the advice is not immediately useable 
to me; but I appreciate the clear style of his explanations  and the 
thoroughness of his approach.

Craig


> On Sep 15, 2015, at 1:47 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Craig,
> 
> You could do worse than to get the free iBook “Mastering the Macintosh” by 
> Tim Sniffen.
> This book approaches the Mac from the perspective of an iOS user, but it’s 
> full of useful information. And, of course, it’s free!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 13 Sep 2015, at 21:54, Craig Werner > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello, everyone.
>> 
>> I am about to start learning Pages for the Mac. For now, I seek only a basic 
>> understanding: creating a document; changing type styles; finding and 
>> replacing text; writing a basic header, etc. Can anyone recommend articles 
>> or podcasts that might be helpful? Even supplying general information as to 
>> where these resources are will suffice. I don't expect anyone to go 
>> searching for specific links.
>> 
>> Thanks for all help.
>> 
>> Craig
>> 
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Re: Migrating iTunes Library from PC to MacBook Air

[Craig Werner]

Thanks for the reassurance, Jonathan.  I have never copied from machine to 
machine before.  Am I to assume that the Mac will honor the same folder 
structure for my library as the PC does?  I won’t clutter the list with more 
thanks, but be assured I’ll read your response.

Craig

> On Sep 19, 2015, at 2:10 AM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
> 
> Hi Craig, I copied my library across the network from one machine to another. 
> Was quite straightforward.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org 
>> On 19/09/2015, at 10:15 AM, Craig Werner > > wrote:
>> 
>> Greetings to the list.
>> 
>> Presently,my iTunes library lives on my iPhone 5 and my Windows 7 PC.  I 
>> would like to put the library on my new MacBook Air.  I’m under the 
>> impression that the Windows Migration Assistant is the best way to transfer 
>> the library.  If I use this approach, is the software accessible with a 
>> Windows screen reader?  Are there other  methods of which I should be aware?
>> 
>> Thanks for all help.
>> 
>> Craig
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Re: Learning Pages for the Mac

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Craig,

Can you explain your difficulties with Pages? Remember to look at the menus to 
find the short cuts.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 19 Sep 2015, at 14:36, Craig Werner  wrote:
> 
> Thank you, Anne, for your response.  I should have mentioned that I have Tim 
> Sniffen’s book, and it is indeed helpful.  I’m more of a keyboard shortcut 
> person than a trackpad user, so some of the advice is not immediately useable 
> to me; but I appreciate the clear style of his explanations  and the 
> thoroughness of his approach.
> 
> Craig
> 
> 
>> On Sep 15, 2015, at 1:47 PM, Anne Robertson > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Craig,
>> 
>> You could do worse than to get the free iBook “Mastering the Macintosh” by 
>> Tim Sniffen.
>> This book approaches the Mac from the perspective of an iOS user, but it’s 
>> full of useful information. And, of course, it’s free!
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>>> On 13 Sep 2015, at 21:54, Craig Werner >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello, everyone.
>>> 
>>> I am about to start learning Pages for the Mac. For now, I seek only a 
>>> basic understanding: creating a document; changing type styles; finding and 
>>> replacing text; writing a basic header, etc. Can anyone recommend articles 
>>> or podcasts that might be helpful? Even supplying general information as to 
>>> where these resources are will suffice. I don't expect anyone to go 
>>> searching for specific links.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for all help.
>>> 
>>> Craig
>>> 
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Re: Scanning text on the MAC

[E.T.]

   Dropbox for the Mac can be found here.



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Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 9/19/2015 7:29 AM, Eileen Scrivani wrote:

Hi Alex,
I do have an IPhone that has the KnFB software on it and I do use it.
The issue that comes to mind is that in processing mail, I keep records
of bills & payments and keep files on my Windows 8 computer.
If I were to scan important mail with the KnFB app on the IPhone then
after saving information to a file/document, I am uncertain about
transferring information to either my Mac Book Pro or Windows 8 computer
for the purpose of record keeping.  I have already installed DropBox on
my phone, but now need to figure out how to get it on the Mac Book.  It
is the one piece to the puzzle I am still uncertain how/where to find
software and download and install on the Mac Book.
I’ve looked in Itunes & the App Store, but only see items for either
Iphones or Ipads.
Everything I do on the Mac is a major learning curve and by the time I
get one little thing figured out how to accomplish I walk away with a
major headache! I'm half kidding & half serious about that last statement.
Thanks for any ideas on a workable solution to what I am trying to
accomplish.
Eileen
*From:* Alex Hall 
*Sent:* Friday, September 18, 2015 8:31 PM
*To:* 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries

*Subject:* Re: Scanning text on the MAC
The two popular ones are Prizmo ($50--don't bother with the $100
version) or Abbyy Fine Reader. Both seem to do well, though I haven't
compared them side by side. If you have an iOS device, I have to say
that I find the KNFB Reader app to be more convenient and just as
accurate, especially now that it has a stand mode.
 > On Sep 18, 2015, at 19:03, percygarrett  wrote:
 >
 > Can anyone recommend scanning software, a scanning app or program for
the MAC Mini? My snail mail and other printed documents are stacking up.
Thanks for all recommendations.
 > Percy Garrett
 >
 > - Original Message - From: "Dionipher Presas Herrera"

 > To: 
 > Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 4:48 PM
 > Subject: Re: annoying quicknav problem in osx 10.10 and 10.11
 >
 >
 > when your on the text boxes you can turn off quick nav by pressing
left and right arrow, i think that is not difficult. :)
 >> On 17 Sep 2015, at 10:34 PM, William Windels
 wrote:
 >>
 >> Hello all,
 >> this tread has become a mixed tread but I am speaking about the
original question.
 >>
 >> I thought that the quicknav letters on a webpage only should work
when the cursor isn’t in a interacted edit-field.
 >> So, I thought that I could combine the quicknav keys on a webpage on
one side and type anything I want in interacted edit-fields when I am
interacted with that field.
 >> If this is what it should be, I have found a bug I think.
 >>
 >> Ok, I can set off the quickness keys on the quicknav section of the
voiceover program but if it goes automatic, it’s much better ;)
 >>
 >> thx for your comments,
 >> William
 >>
 >>> Op 17-sep.-2015, om 19:01 heeft Christina C.
 het volgende geschreven:
 >>>
 >>> I also cannot type in text fields when quick nav is on. I believe
in the voiceOver Utility under commanders/quick nav, there is a check
box that says "Enable single-key webpage navigation when using Quick
Nav.” You can try unchecking this if you do not like to use single key
navigation. This feature is probably what does not allow you to type in
text fields on webpages. I use single key navigation a ton so I leave
this option on.
 >>>
 >>> Good Luck,
 >>> Christina
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Re: Migrating iTunes Library from PC to MacBook Air

[Jonathan Mosen]

Hi Craig, if you go into your Mac's system preferences, and choose sharing, the 
nice thing is that your Mac clearly displays how to connect to it on your 
networks. You should then be able to enter that address into the address bar of 
Windows Explorer, prefaced by two backslashes. Once you log in, you should be 
able to navigate to where you need to be and copy and paste as you need. You'll 
need to make sure that the appropriate services are enabled under sharing as 
well.
Alternatively, a good old thumb drive or external hard disk will do the trick 
too.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

> On 20/09/2015, at 12:30 AM, Craig Werner  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the reassurance, Jonathan.  I have never copied from machine to 
> machine before.  Am I to assume that the Mac will honor the same folder 
> structure for my library as the PC does?  I won’t clutter the list with more 
> thanks, but be assured I’ll read your response.
> 
> Craig
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2015, at 2:10 AM, Jonathan Mosen > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Craig, I copied my library across the network from one machine to 
>> another. Was quite straightforward.
>> Jonathan Mosen
>> Mosen Consulting
>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>> http://Mosen.org 
>>> On 19/09/2015, at 10:15 AM, Craig Werner >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Greetings to the list.
>>> 
>>> Presently,my iTunes library lives on my iPhone 5 and my Windows 7 PC.  I 
>>> would like to put the library on my new MacBook Air.  I’m under the 
>>> impression that the Windows Migration Assistant is the best way to transfer 
>>> the library.  If I use this approach, is the software accessible with a 
>>> Windows screen reader?  Are there other  methods of which I should be aware?
>>> 
>>> Thanks for all help.
>>> 
>>> Craig
>>> 
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AppleScript to hide the mail preview in Yosemite.

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

Good day,

I just finished a test version of an AppleScript application that appears to 
close the preview pane on Mail message viewers when run in the current version 
of Yosemite. This application requires that you permit it to access UI actions 
which must be done as an administrator.

There are routines to 
• Switch to a specific settings panel.
•Check if Classic View in mail is on.
• Set the status of classic view
• Change the position of the splitter to 100% for  the messages view thereby 
hiding the preview pane.

I believe you can see the AppleScript if you get the application, if not I am 
willing to share.

Please contact me directly if you want to try this out since I can’t always 
keep up to date with MacVisionaries.


Best wishes,

Jonathan
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Re: Learning Pages for the Mac

[Craig Werner]

Hello, Anne.

Right now, I'm doing pretty well wisth Pages. The only problem I'm having
now is not being able to tell where I am in a document. The command I am
searching for would tell me the page, line, and column number the insertion
pointer is on. VO F4 F4 was suggested, but although it supplies information
about position, it does not tell me what I wish it would.

Craig


On Saturday, September 19, 2015, Anne Robertson 
wrote:

> Hello Craig,
>
> Can you explain your difficulties with Pages? Remember to look at the
> menus to find the short cuts.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Anne
>
>
> On 19 Sep 2015, at 14:36, Craig Werner  > wrote:
>
> Thank you, Anne, for your response.  I should have mentioned that I have
> Tim Sniffen’s book, and it is indeed helpful.  I’m more of a keyboard
> shortcut person than a trackpad user, so some of the advice is not
> immediately useable to me; but I appreciate the clear style of his
> explanations  and the thoroughness of his approach.
>
> Craig
>
>
> On Sep 15, 2015, at 1:47 PM, Anne Robertson  > wrote:
>
> Hello Craig,
>
> You could do worse than to get the free iBook “Mastering the Macintosh” by
> Tim Sniffen.
> This book approaches the Mac from the perspective of an iOS user, but it’s
> full of useful information. And, of course, it’s free!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Anne
>
>
> On 13 Sep 2015, at 21:54, Craig Werner  > wrote:
>
> Hello, everyone.
>
> I am about to start learning Pages for the Mac. For now, I seek only a
> basic understanding: creating a document; changing type styles; finding and
> replacing text; writing a basic header, etc. Can anyone recommend articles
> or podcasts that might be helpful? Even supplying general information as to
> where these resources are will suffice. I don't expect anyone to go
> searching for specific links.
>
> Thanks for all help.
>
> Craig
>
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Re: Learning Pages for the Mac

[Anne Robertson]

Craig, if you stop interacting, VO will tell you which page you’re on and how 
many pages are in the document.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 19 Sep 2015, at 16:39, Craig Werner  wrote:
> 
> Hello, Anne.
> 
> Right now, I'm doing pretty well wisth Pages. The only problem I'm having now 
> is not being able to tell where I am in a document. The command I am 
> searching for would tell me the page, line, and column number the insertion 
> pointer is on. VO F4 F4 was suggested, but although it supplies information 
> about position, it does not tell me what I wish it would.
> 
> Craig
> 
> 
> On Saturday, September 19, 2015, Anne Robertson  > wrote:
> Hello Craig,
> 
> Can you explain your difficulties with Pages? Remember to look at the menus 
> to find the short cuts.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 19 Sep 2015, at 14:36, Craig Werner > > wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you, Anne, for your response.  I should have mentioned that I have Tim 
>> Sniffen’s book, and it is indeed helpful.  I’m more of a keyboard shortcut 
>> person than a trackpad user, so some of the advice is not immediately 
>> useable to me; but I appreciate the clear style of his explanations  and the 
>> thoroughness of his approach.
>> 
>> Craig
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 15, 2015, at 1:47 PM, Anne Robertson >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Craig,
>>> 
>>> You could do worse than to get the free iBook “Mastering the Macintosh” by 
>>> Tim Sniffen.
>>> This book approaches the Mac from the perspective of an iOS user, but it’s 
>>> full of useful information. And, of course, it’s free!
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
 On 13 Sep 2015, at 21:54, Craig Werner > wrote:
 
 Hello, everyone.
 
 I am about to start learning Pages for the Mac. For now, I seek only a 
 basic understanding: creating a document; changing type styles; finding 
 and replacing text; writing a basic header, etc. Can anyone recommend 
 articles or podcasts that might be helpful? Even supplying general 
 information as to where these resources are will suffice. I don't expect 
 anyone to go searching for specific links.
 
 Thanks for all help.
 
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Re: Scanning text on the MAC

[Eileen Scrivani]

Hi Alex, 

I do have an IPhone that has the KnFB software on it and I do use it.  The 
issue that comes to mind is that in processing mail, I keep records of bills & 
payments and keep files on my Windows 8 computer.  

If I were to scan important mail with the KnFB app on the IPhone then after 
saving information to a file/document, I am uncertain about transferring 
information to either my Mac Book Pro or Windows 8 computer for the purpose of 
record keeping.  I have already installed DropBox on my phone, but now need to 
figure out how to get it on the Mac Book.  It is the one piece to the puzzle I 
am still uncertain how/where to find software and download and install on the 
Mac Book.

I’ve looked in Itunes & the App Store, but only see items for either Iphones or 
Ipads.  

Everything I do on the Mac is a major learning curve and by the time I get one 
little thing figured out how to accomplish I walk away with a major headache! 
I'm half kidding & half serious about that last statement.

Thanks for any ideas on a workable solution to what I am trying to accomplish. 


Eileen


From: Alex Hall 
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 8:31 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Scanning text on the MAC

The two popular ones are Prizmo ($50--don't bother with the $100 version) or 
Abbyy Fine Reader. Both seem to do well, though I haven't compared them side by 
side. If you have an iOS device, I have to say that I find the KNFB Reader app 
to be more convenient and just as accurate, especially now that it has a stand 
mode.
> On Sep 18, 2015, at 19:03, percygarrett  wrote:
> 
> Can anyone recommend scanning software, a scanning app or program for the MAC 
> Mini? My snail mail and other printed documents are stacking up. Thanks for 
> all recommendations.
> Percy Garrett
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Dionipher Presas Herrera" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 4:48 PM
> Subject: Re: annoying quicknav problem in osx 10.10 and 10.11
> 
> 
> when your on the text boxes you can turn off quick nav by pressing left and 
> right arrow, i think that is not difficult. :)
>> On 17 Sep 2015, at 10:34 PM, William Windels  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> this tread has become a mixed tread but I am speaking about the original 
>> question.
>> 
>> I thought that the quicknav letters on a webpage only should work when the 
>> cursor isn’t in a interacted edit-field.
>> So, I thought that I could combine the quicknav keys on a webpage on one 
>> side and type anything I want in interacted edit-fields when I am interacted 
>> with that field.
>> If this is what it should be, I have found a bug I think.
>> 
>> Ok, I can set off the quickness keys on the quicknav section of the 
>> voiceover program but if it goes automatic, it’s much better ;)
>> 
>> thx for your comments,
>> William
>> 
>>> Op 17-sep.-2015, om 19:01 heeft Christina C.  het 
>>> volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>> I also cannot type in text fields when quick nav is on. I believe in the 
>>> voiceOver Utility under commanders/quick nav, there is a check box that 
>>> says "Enable single-key webpage navigation when using Quick Nav.” You can 
>>> try unchecking this if you do not like to use single key navigation. This 
>>> feature is probably what does not allow you to type in text fields on 
>>> webpages. I use single key navigation a ton so I leave this option on.
>>> 
>>> Good Luck,
>>> Christina
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Re: Migrating iTunes Library from PC to MacBook Air

[Grant]

Hi Craig,

As you may know, on a PC the iTunes library is typically stored in 
c:\users\username\music\iTunes. You can force your library folder to be 
somewhere else if you want, but that’s where it typically is. Inside that 
folder, there’s a sub-folder called iTunes Media, which has subfolders like 
audiobooks, music, and podcasts where your media is organized. On a Mac, iTunes 
uses an identical structure; you can force the library folder to be somewhere 
else if desired, but typically it’s under the music folder in your home 
directory. So, copying the folder from the music folder on your PC to the music 
folder on your Mac, then opening up iTunes on the Mac, should do the trick. 
You’ll be presented with the same library you were using on your PC.

There are two exceptions, however. One is if you have changed the location of 
the iTunes Media folder, though this is unlikely unless you specifically 
remember doing so. You can check this in iTunes on your PC by opening the edit 
menu, choosing preferences, then looking under the advanced tab. If you’ve 
moved your iTunes Media folder, you can move it back to its usual location 
before doing the copy. The other exception is if you’ve stored some media 
outside of your iTunes Media folder. That media won’t be copied. To make sure 
this isn’t a problem, before you copy the folder, open iTunes on your PC, open 
the file menu, choose the library submenu, then choose “organize library”. If 
necessary, you’ll be given the option to organize your library so that 
everything’s contained within the iTunes Media folder.

With all that out of the way, you can copy the folder normally, such as using 
the method Jonathan described.

Keep us posted if you have further questions. That’s what the list is for!

Cheers,

Grant


> On Sep 19, 2015, at 5:50:30 AM, Craig Werner  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the reassurance, Jonathan.  I have never copied from machine to 
> machine before.  Am I to assume that the Mac will honor the same folder 
> structure for my library as the PC does?  I won’t clutter the list with more 
> thanks, but be assured I’ll read your response.
> 
> Craig
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2015, at 2:10 AM, Jonathan Mosen > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Craig, I copied my library across the network from one machine to 
>> another. Was quite straightforward.
>> Jonathan Mosen
>> Mosen Consulting
>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>> http://Mosen.org 
>>> On 19/09/2015, at 10:15 AM, Craig Werner >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Greetings to the list.
>>> 
>>> Presently,my iTunes library lives on my iPhone 5 and my Windows 7 PC.  I 
>>> would like to put the library on my new MacBook Air.  I’m under the 
>>> impression that the Windows Migration Assistant is the best way to transfer 
>>> the library.  If I use this approach, is the software accessible with a 
>>> Windows screen reader?  Are there other  methods of which I should be aware?
>>> 
>>> Thanks for all help.
>>> 
>>> Craig
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Re: Force Touch on Macbook Pro with VoiceOver

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Maybe there will be more features coming in el capitan for voiceover and force 
touch.
/A
> 17 sep. 2015 kl. 22:09 skrev Jonathan Mosen :
> 
> Thanks Alex, that's certainly been my experience thus far, but wanted to make 
> sure I wasn't overlooking anything.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
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> http://Mosen.org 
>> On 18/09/2015, at 7:33 AM, Alex Hall > > wrote:
>> 
>> I tested this at a local Best Buy, trying different things for about an 
>> hour. The best I could do was to route the mouse to the VO cursor with 
>> vo-cmd-f5, then deep press. That didn't always work, but I sometimes got 
>> word definitions and the like. To the best of my knowledge, Apple doesn't 
>> currently let VoiceOver take advantage of the trackpad yet. Here's hoping 
>> they do, because it could be a very powerful technology.
>>> On Sep 17, 2015, at 15:13, Jonathan Mosen >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all, I just took possession of my new Macbook Pro yesterday. I usually 
>>> give myself a lot of time to customise a new computer to behave just how I 
>>> want, but I had things working incredibly quickly. Thanks to Setup 
>>> Assistant, I set up using a Time Machine backup of my Macbook Air, then I 
>>> copied my virtual machine across from my NAS, which I don't have as part of 
>>> the Time Machine backup.
>>> So within about 90 minutes, I had all my apps, my settings, Windows and all 
>>> the software I use there, JAWS, and everything set up. Now that, is very 
>>> slick.
>>> My question relates to the force touch trackpad in my new Macbook Pro. It's 
>>> really remarkable. When the laptop is switched off, you can feel it for 
>>> what it really is, a flat surface that doesn't give at all when you press 
>>> it. But when the machine is on, the haptic technology really makes it feel 
>>> like you're clicking. Makes me look forward to 3D touch on my 6s Plus next 
>>> week.
>>> Has anyone found a use for the force touch gestures, such as a deep press, 
>>> with VO? I take it VO can't yet differentiate between a deep press and a 
>>> standard tap?
>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>> Mosen Consulting
>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>> http://Mosen.org 
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Re: Learning Pages for the Mac

[Craig Werner]

Very true, Anne, but I'm afraid I want something more specific. If I could
make Pages announce line, page, and column number, I would have a very good
idea of where I am in a document. This would come in handy, for instance,
if I were writing a short document, and I wanted to to space it out
prettily so that it took up most of the page.

Craig


On Saturday, September 19, 2015, Anne Robertson 
wrote:

> Craig, if you stop interacting, VO will tell you which page you’re on and
> how many pages are in the document.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Anne
>
>
> On 19 Sep 2015, at 16:39, Craig Werner  > wrote:
>
> Hello, Anne.
>
> Right now, I'm doing pretty well wisth Pages. The only problem I'm having
> now is not being able to tell where I am in a document. The command I am
> searching for would tell me the page, line, and column number the insertion
> pointer is on. VO F4 F4 was suggested, but although it supplies information
> about position, it does not tell me what I wish it would.
>
> Craig
>
>
> On Saturday, September 19, 2015, Anne Robertson  > wrote:
>
>> Hello Craig,
>>
>> Can you explain your difficulties with Pages? Remember to look at the
>> menus to find the short cuts.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Anne
>>
>>
>> On 19 Sep 2015, at 14:36, Craig Werner  wrote:
>>
>> Thank you, Anne, for your response.  I should have mentioned that I have
>> Tim Sniffen’s book, and it is indeed helpful.  I’m more of a keyboard
>> shortcut person than a trackpad user, so some of the advice is not
>> immediately useable to me; but I appreciate the clear style of his
>> explanations  and the thoroughness of his approach.
>>
>> Craig
>>
>>
>> On Sep 15, 2015, at 1:47 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>>
>> Hello Craig,
>>
>> You could do worse than to get the free iBook “Mastering the Macintosh”
>> by Tim Sniffen.
>> This book approaches the Mac from the perspective of an iOS user, but
>> it’s full of useful information. And, of course, it’s free!
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Anne
>>
>>
>> On 13 Sep 2015, at 21:54, Craig Werner  wrote:
>>
>> Hello, everyone.
>>
>> I am about to start learning Pages for the Mac. For now, I seek only a
>> basic understanding: creating a document; changing type styles; finding and
>> replacing text; writing a basic header, etc. Can anyone recommend articles
>> or podcasts that might be helpful? Even supplying general information as to
>> where these resources are will suffice. I don't expect anyone to go
>> searching for specific links.
>>
>> Thanks for all help.
>>
>> Craig
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Re: Slow speech with voices other than Alex

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
THis is very intresting.
We only have one voice we can use for swedish which is absurd in my world but 
this swedish voice speaks increadibly fast when you speed it up to over 75.
I really don’t know what they’ve done to it.
/A
> 19 sep. 2015 kl. 05:00 skrev Mary Otten :
> 
> I just upgraded the iPad to iOS 9 and reinstalled the Russian voice. I also 
> installed the mail Siri enhanced voice. Experimenting around, it would seem 
> that both of these voices are speaking much more slowly than they should 
> based on the speech rate that is set invoice over interestingly enough, under 
> iOS 8 and I believe seven as well, the four invoices, such as the Russian 
> one, would speak at a much faster rate than the default would warrant, based 
> on the English speech. It seems like they've over corrected. Now, if I want a 
> decent Russian speech rate, I have to up the speed to more than I would have 
> for English, which is absurd, since I am far from a native speaker of Russian.
> Mary
> 
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Re: Slow speech with voices other than Alex

[Cheree Heppe]

Cheree Heppe here:
We are having similar problems with VoiceOver and speech rates.  Using the 
Australian female voice, where the IOS8 type rate ran at 30 to 35 as normal 
rate, the IOS9 speech rate runs around 50 and above.
Who is tweeking these accessibility settings, anyway?  This looks a lot like he 
way Windows stuff operates.  This shouldn't be arbitrarioy swiched with Apple 
without elease notes to explain changes.

Regards,
Cheree Heppe


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 19, 2015, at 15:24, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> THis is very intresting.
> We only have one voice we can use for swedish which is absurd in my world but 
> this swedish voice speaks increadibly fast when you speed it up to over 75.
> I really don’t know what they’ve done to it.
> /A
>> 19 sep. 2015 kl. 05:00 skrev Mary Otten :
>> 
>> I just upgraded the iPad to iOS 9 and reinstalled the Russian voice. I also 
>> installed the mail Siri enhanced voice. Experimenting around, it would seem 
>> that both of these voices are speaking much more slowly than they should 
>> based on the speech rate that is set invoice over interestingly enough, 
>> under iOS 8 and I believe seven as well, the four invoices, such as the 
>> Russian one, would speak at a much faster rate than the default would 
>> warrant, based on the English speech. It seems like they've over corrected. 
>> Now, if I want a decent Russian speech rate, I have to up the speed to more 
>> than I would have for English, which is absurd, since I am far from a native 
>> speaker of Russian.
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: Braille Software for Mac??

[Jim Gatteys]

If I'm not mistaken you have to open the app with the "open with" command.
Jim

> On Sep 19, 2015, at 6:52 PM, Eileen Scrivani  wrote:
> 
> Hi Again ...
>  
> I was able to download the Louis Braille program/installer (it seems to me) 
> to my Mac Book.  It is listed in the downloads folder/area on the computer.  
> However, when I issue whatever the command is to start the installer the Mac 
> comes back saying something about the file/installer is from an unknown 
> source and can’t install or run – something to that extent – I forget the 
> exact wording. 
>  
> I have selected the “continue” button, but I don’t think its doing anything. 
>  
> Does this mean it will not run on the laptop?  It is possible I’m not hitting 
> the correct command to get it to run/install, I’m just not certain. 
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Eileen

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Re: Anyone know how to play all songs by an artist on an iPod or iPhone?

[Donna Goodin]

George,

I think this may have changed with IOS9.  Tonight I tried following your 
suggestions, an wen I tapped Play, all that was played was the selected album.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Sep 14, 2015, at 7:44 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi George,
> 
> Mostly we're speaking the same language.  For me, the My Music tab is in the 
> lower left, but all other steps work until I get to the More button.  When I 
> tap on that, I get a whole bunch of options such as share artist, Start Radio 
> station, Make available off-line,  etc, but nothing about playing all songs.  
> have you updated to the latest IOS?  I'm just starting to wonder if we're 
> running the same software version, especially given that you're finding the 
> My Music Tab on the Right, whereas mine is on the left.
> Cheers,
> Donna. 
>> On Sep 14, 2015, at 7:25 AM, george b  wrote:
>> 
>> donna
>> 
>> open the music app on your phone
>> 
>> in the lower right corner of the app the 5th tab across the bottom is my 
>> music double tap on this tab
>> now in the upper left corner of the screen below the status line is my 
>> account button, library button, and playlist button, double tap on library 
>> button
>> now flick with one finger across the screen to you hear category button with 
>> the selected defalt category name. if it is not artist then double tap on 
>> this button and double tap on artest.
>> Now you should have all your music listed by artest name in a list with the 
>> name of the artest and number of alblums and number of songs
>> To play all from that artest, flick up with one finger and you will hear 
>> play, more, and activate, double tap on play and it will start playing all 
>> from that artist.
>> If you do not get these choices when you flick up then do the rotor to you 
>> hear actions and then it will work.
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 04:31
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Anyone know how to play all songs by an artist on an iPod or 
>> iPhone?
>> 
>> George,
>> 
>> there is no Music Button in the bottom right of the screen.  In the Bottom 
>> right of the screen is the Connect Tab.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>>> On Sep 13, 2015, at 2:10 PM, george b  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Open music
>>> 
>>> Double tap onmy music in the bottom right corner of the screen
>>> Double tap on it says catagories and what is current like jondra button and 
>>> double tap on that and the in the list double tap on artest
>>> Now you will get a popluatted list of your artest in your music.
>>> Double tap on the aretst
>>> Then follow the prompt from there -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 11:57
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Anyone know how to play all songs by an artist on an iPod or 
>>> iPhone?
>>> 
>>> Hi Alan,
>>> 
>>> thanks for responding.  I don't have any problems with playlists, the 
>>> playlist tab at the bottom is very easy to find.  What I would like to do 
>>> is be able to pick a specific artist, say Erik Clapton, and play all the 
>>> songs that I have by him in my library.  You used to be able to do this, 
>>> Music would play one album and then just go on to the next one.  the weird 
>>> thing is, that once, I actually did see the all Song button, and was able 
>>> to select it, but I haven't seen that button since that one time.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
 On Sep 13, 2015, at 1:34 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
 
 Donna,
 
 I sync my desired playlists to my iPhone 6 so that my iPhone actually
 contains the music I enjoy listening to as opposed to using Apple Music or
 another streaming service. The way I would listen to a particular artist on
 my iPhone would be to call up Siri and say something like "Play Bruno Mars
 shuffled or not shuffled." I'm not sure of the actual words to request the
 playing not to be shuffled but give Siri a try and see if she meets your
 needs.
 
 Alan Lemly
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
 Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 1:11 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Anyone know how to play all songs by an artist on an iPod or
 iPhone?
 
 Hi all,
 
 so if you have multiple albums by a given artist, how do you get your
 i-device to play all songs from all albums?  I've looked in the Apple
 Support forums, and saw something that said you did it by tapping on the
 artist photo.  I've tried tapping the artist's name, but that did not do 
 it.
 Does anyone know how to do this?
 Thanks,

Dropbox on Mac (was: Scanning text on the MAC)

[Alex Hall]

That link will download the software. Once it downloads, go to Finder, press 
cmd-option-l, and arrow down to the just-download file. Press cmd-o, and follow 
the prompts. Eventually, you'll sign into Dropbox, and that's it. Thereafter, 
Dropbox will be just a folder in Finder like any other, and you can use it like 
any other folder. You'll almost never need to change anything or adjust any 
settings. I'm hoping KNFB Reader eventually adds support for iCloud Drive, but 
Dropbox will work for now. Let me know if you run into problems with this, and 
remember that you can install Dropbox on Windows until you get more comfortable 
on the Mac.
> On Sep 19, 2015, at 10:37, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Dropbox for the Mac can be found here.
> 
> 
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 9/19/2015 7:29 AM, Eileen Scrivani wrote:
>> Hi Alex,
>> I do have an IPhone that has the KnFB software on it and I do use it.
>> The issue that comes to mind is that in processing mail, I keep records
>> of bills & payments and keep files on my Windows 8 computer.
>> If I were to scan important mail with the KnFB app on the IPhone then
>> after saving information to a file/document, I am uncertain about
>> transferring information to either my Mac Book Pro or Windows 8 computer
>> for the purpose of record keeping.  I have already installed DropBox on
>> my phone, but now need to figure out how to get it on the Mac Book.  It
>> is the one piece to the puzzle I am still uncertain how/where to find
>> software and download and install on the Mac Book.
>> I’ve looked in Itunes & the App Store, but only see items for either
>> Iphones or Ipads.
>> Everything I do on the Mac is a major learning curve and by the time I
>> get one little thing figured out how to accomplish I walk away with a
>> major headache! I'm half kidding & half serious about that last statement.
>> Thanks for any ideas on a workable solution to what I am trying to
>> accomplish.
>> Eileen
>> *From:* Alex Hall 
>> *Sent:* Friday, September 18, 2015 8:31 PM
>> *To:* 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
>> 
>> *Subject:* Re: Scanning text on the MAC
>> The two popular ones are Prizmo ($50--don't bother with the $100
>> version) or Abbyy Fine Reader. Both seem to do well, though I haven't
>> compared them side by side. If you have an iOS device, I have to say
>> that I find the KNFB Reader app to be more convenient and just as
>> accurate, especially now that it has a stand mode.
>> > On Sep 18, 2015, at 19:03, percygarrett  wrote:
>> >
>> > Can anyone recommend scanning software, a scanning app or program for
>> the MAC Mini? My snail mail and other printed documents are stacking up.
>> Thanks for all recommendations.
>> > Percy Garrett
>> >
>> > - Original Message - From: "Dionipher Presas Herrera"
>> 
>> > To: 
>> > Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 4:48 PM
>> > Subject: Re: annoying quicknav problem in osx 10.10 and 10.11
>> >
>> >
>> > when your on the text boxes you can turn off quick nav by pressing
>> left and right arrow, i think that is not difficult. :)
>> >> On 17 Sep 2015, at 10:34 PM, William Windels
>>  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hello all,
>> >> this tread has become a mixed tread but I am speaking about the
>> original question.
>> >>
>> >> I thought that the quicknav letters on a webpage only should work
>> when the cursor isn’t in a interacted edit-field.
>> >> So, I thought that I could combine the quicknav keys on a webpage on
>> one side and type anything I want in interacted edit-fields when I am
>> interacted with that field.
>> >> If this is what it should be, I have found a bug I think.
>> >>
>> >> Ok, I can set off the quickness keys on the quicknav section of the
>> voiceover program but if it goes automatic, it’s much better ;)
>> >>
>> >> thx for your comments,
>> >> William
>> >>
>> >>> Op 17-sep.-2015, om 19:01 heeft Christina C.
>>  het volgende geschreven:
>> >>>
>> >>> I also cannot type in text fields when quick nav is on. I believe
>> in the voiceOver Utility under commanders/quick nav, there is a check
>> box that says "Enable single-key webpage navigation when using Quick
>> Nav.” You can try unchecking this if you do not like to use single key
>> navigation. This feature is probably what does not allow you to type in
>> text fields on webpages. I use single key navigation a ton so I leave
>> this option on.
>> >>>
>> >>> Good Luck,
>> >>> Christina
>> >>>
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Re: Dropbox on Mac (was: Scanning text on the MAC)

[Eileen Scrivani]

hi, 

Thank you all who responded to my questions.  I have DropBox downloading now on 
the Mac.  I have been using it for a while on Windows to share files with 
another group.  Its a matter of my learning how to use it on the Mac.  

Currently, I am reading through the Tim Sniffen book, but I find he does a lot 
for Zoom, and I’d find it easier if there was more of a focus on VO and would  
rather learn more keyboard commands.  I’ll try to learn as much as I can from 
the book … anything that will help. 

Thanks again. 

Eileen

> On Sep 19, 2015, at 11:45 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> That link will download the software. Once it downloads, go to Finder, press 
> cmd-option-l, and arrow down to the just-download file. Press cmd-o, and 
> follow the prompts. Eventually, you'll sign into Dropbox, and that's it. 
> Thereafter, Dropbox will be just a folder in Finder like any other, and you 
> can use it like any other folder. You'll almost never need to change anything 
> or adjust any settings. I'm hoping KNFB Reader eventually adds support for 
> iCloud Drive, but Dropbox will work for now. Let me know if you run into 
> problems with this, and remember that you can install Dropbox on Windows 
> until you get more comfortable on the Mac.
>> On Sep 19, 2015, at 10:37, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>>  Dropbox for the Mac can be found here.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> 
>> On 9/19/2015 7:29 AM, Eileen Scrivani wrote:
>>> Hi Alex,
>>> I do have an IPhone that has the KnFB software on it and I do use it.
>>> The issue that comes to mind is that in processing mail, I keep records
>>> of bills & payments and keep files on my Windows 8 computer.
>>> If I were to scan important mail with the KnFB app on the IPhone then
>>> after saving information to a file/document, I am uncertain about
>>> transferring information to either my Mac Book Pro or Windows 8 computer
>>> for the purpose of record keeping.  I have already installed DropBox on
>>> my phone, but now need to figure out how to get it on the Mac Book.  It
>>> is the one piece to the puzzle I am still uncertain how/where to find
>>> software and download and install on the Mac Book.
>>> I’ve looked in Itunes & the App Store, but only see items for either
>>> Iphones or Ipads.
>>> Everything I do on the Mac is a major learning curve and by the time I
>>> get one little thing figured out how to accomplish I walk away with a
>>> major headache! I'm half kidding & half serious about that last statement.
>>> Thanks for any ideas on a workable solution to what I am trying to
>>> accomplish.
>>> Eileen
>>> *From:* Alex Hall 
>>> *Sent:* Friday, September 18, 2015 8:31 PM
>>> *To:* 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
>>> 
>>> *Subject:* Re: Scanning text on the MAC
>>> The two popular ones are Prizmo ($50--don't bother with the $100
>>> version) or Abbyy Fine Reader. Both seem to do well, though I haven't
>>> compared them side by side. If you have an iOS device, I have to say
>>> that I find the KNFB Reader app to be more convenient and just as
>>> accurate, especially now that it has a stand mode.
 On Sep 18, 2015, at 19:03, percygarrett  wrote:
 
 Can anyone recommend scanning software, a scanning app or program for
>>> the MAC Mini? My snail mail and other printed documents are stacking up.
>>> Thanks for all recommendations.
 Percy Garrett
 
 - Original Message - From: "Dionipher Presas Herrera"
>>> 
 To: 
 Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 4:48 PM
 Subject: Re: annoying quicknav problem in osx 10.10 and 10.11
 
 
 when your on the text boxes you can turn off quick nav by pressing
>>> left and right arrow, i think that is not difficult. :)
> On 17 Sep 2015, at 10:34 PM, William Windels
>>>  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> this tread has become a mixed tread but I am speaking about the
>>> original question.
> 
> I thought that the quicknav letters on a webpage only should work
>>> when the cursor isn’t in a interacted edit-field.
> So, I thought that I could combine the quicknav keys on a webpage on
>>> one side and type anything I want in interacted edit-fields when I am
>>> interacted with that field.
> If this is what it should be, I have found a bug I think.
> 
> Ok, I can set off the quickness keys on the quicknav section of the
>>> voiceover program but if it goes automatic, it’s much better ;)
> 
> thx for your comments,
> William
> 
>> Op 17-sep.-2015, om 19:01 heeft Christina C.
>>>  het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>> I also cannot type in text fields