Re: bar instead of function keys on new Mac Book Pros?

2016-06-11 Thread Chris Meredith
Oh. With FileVault, you first boot into the recovery partition. Whilst Command+F5 gets you something that talks you through the prompts and calls itself VoiceOver, it’s likely a set of canned sound samples (remember, you’re only being prompted for your username and password, so you don’t

Re: Hosting a website on a Mac Mini?

2016-06-11 Thread Brandon A. Olivares
Yes, complete access. > On Jun 12, 2016, at 1:05 AM, Chris Meredith wrote: > > Can I assume they give you full root and ssh access to your virtual server? >> On Jun 11, 2016, at 11:13 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >> >

Re: Hosting a website on a Mac Mini?

2016-06-11 Thread Chris Meredith
Can I assume they give you full root and ssh access to your virtual server? > On Jun 11, 2016, at 11:13 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland > wrote: > > Wonderful! Glad you got set up. Watch how quick they respond to your > ticket! I think you'll be incredibly impressed. >

Re: Hosting a website on a Mac Mini?

2016-06-11 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Wonderful! Glad you got set up. Watch how quick they respond to your ticket! I think you'll be incredibly impressed. --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016. Training Instructor. clgillan...@gmail.com Phone: (704) 256-8010. - Original Message - From: Alex Hall To: 'Chris

Re: Hosting a website on a Mac Mini?

2016-06-11 Thread Alex Hall
Thanks guys. I went ahead and signed up with them a couple hours ago, and I have to agree that it's been quite easy. The only problem was that my card wasn't accepted because they don't support that bank, but VO didn't detect the popup displaying the problem so I had to open a ticket with them.

Re: Hosting a website on a Mac Mini?

2016-06-11 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I use them all the freaking time, and swear, and I do mean, swear! by them! Accessibility is steller on their web site. So much so, that when I wrote them to commend them, they told me flat out that they were 100% commited to following W3C standard, and following all accessibility guidelines.

Re: Hosting a website on a Mac Mini?

2016-06-11 Thread Brandon A. Olivares
DigitalOcean works very well with Voiceover. There are some minor issues but they are easily worked around. Sorry I don’t remember them at the moment, but I had no major problems. Brandon > On Jun 11, 2016, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > > I didn't realize Digital Ocean

Re: Hosting a website on a Mac Mini?

2016-06-11 Thread Alex Hall
I didn't realize Digital Ocean was that cheap. If you, or anyone, has used them before, do the web interface and other aspects work with VO/Safari? Any accessibility things I need to know about? It's an ongoing cost, but it's small, and I don't have to worry about firewalls, ports, or other

Re: bar instead of function keys on new Mac Book Pros?

2016-06-11 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
I certainly don’t dispute the value touch-screens have had on the approachability of technology, I’m just sorry that it has, in addition to raising the bar for people without sight (which, really, I would not be so concerned about, by itself, as long as there were reasonable network

Re: bar instead of function keys on new Mac Book Pros?

2016-06-11 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Well, I strongly strongly disagree with your assessment, but that said, no disrespect on your part taken, and further, I respect you for voicing your opinion on the matter. Again, I don't agree at all with it, but, you have a right to your feeling on the matter, just as I do, so dont' worry

Re: bar instead of function keys on new Mac Book Pros?

2016-06-11 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
What do you mean? I don't follow your logic, no pun intended. Sorry bout that. --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016. Training Instructor. clgillan...@gmail.com Phone: (704) 256-8010. - Original Message - From: Chris Meredith To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent:

Re: Mod note - Language -was- Re: bar instead of function keys on new Mac Book Pros?

2016-06-11 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Goodness, Cara. Bless your heart. I appreciate you stepping up and saying something. I know I contributed to a small degree, but I assure you I tried to be incredibly sparing, if at all. I do agree it was getting a little outta hand, so thanks for this quick note; it's appreciated greatly.

Re: bar instead of function keys on new Mac Book Pros?

2016-06-11 Thread Chris Meredith
With all due respect, sir, there WAS a significant amount of negativity in this thread, which definitely took the tone of the age old song that blind people are always left out, and ZOMG this may happen again. I’m pretty sure it was the present Apple CEO that pointed out that, when they

Re: bar instead of function keys on new Mac Book Pros?

2016-06-11 Thread Chris Meredith
Although that wouldn’t solve the issue for those of us with FileVault enabled. > On Jun 10, 2016, at 10:47 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote: > > Hey what about the rumour that the new apple notebooks are going to have this > touch bar but also siri which will allow you to turn

Re: bar instead of function keys on new Mac Book Pros?

2016-06-11 Thread Chris Meredith
Could be that, could be a tactile marking above F5, could be any number of ways. Unless you’re thinking that the bar won’t be divided up into segments that replace the function keys? One question though—where are you hearing these rumors? > On Jun 10, 2016, at 5:01 PM, Ray Foret jr

Mod note - Language -was- Re: bar instead of function keys on new Mac Book Pros?

2016-06-11 Thread Cara Quinn
Hi everyone, please, just a friendly reminder. This is a G-rated list when it comes to language. thanks; have a great weekend! Cheers! Cara On Jun 10, 2016, at 8:53 PM, Scott Granados wrote: Oh here we go, they haven’t released it yet and you’re all already bitchng

Re: bar instead of function keys on new Mac Book Pros?

2016-06-11 Thread David Chittenden
Unfortunately for your position around touchscreens, they are much simpler to use for the sighted. Touchscreens have been tested across multiple industries, and in all cases which I have researched, they lower customer support from an average of 12% - 15%, to 3% - 5%. Sighted people are overall

Re: bar instead of function keys on new Mac Book Pros?

2016-06-11 Thread christopher hallsworth
Very unlikely. WWDC is usually about upcoming software and services for all existing devices, even Apple TV 4th Generation possibly this time round. If so, that’s one insentive to upgrade our current Apple TV boxes. > On 11 Jun 2016, at 13:30, Daniel Miller wrote: > > Who

Re: bar instead of function keys on new Mac Book Pros?

2016-06-11 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Well, to be sure, I do think the touchscreen was a step back, but not because of accessibility—well, not as much for accessibility. My primary complaint with touch-screens (or, really, touch-anythings) has been the visualisation of information, which inevitably leads to trivialisation as it

Re: bar instead of function keys on new Mac Book Pros?

2016-06-11 Thread Daniel Miller
For your information, I have tried touch bars on computers. No, it wasn't a Mac, it was a Windows machine. It had standard function keys, but it also had a touch sensitive strip for things like controlling Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, volume, etc. It was an absolute pain in the ass, so I would appreciate

Re: bar instead of function keys on new Mac Book Pros?

2016-06-11 Thread Scott Granados
Smart, like something you have no idea what you’re talking about or used. That’s like saying you don’t like something with out trying it. That’s a little baby move. Babies say I hate vegetables, have you tried vegetables, no, what happens when you try them, they like them and they eat a

Re: Apple TV 4th Generation

2016-06-11 Thread Scott Granados
Yes, there is a standard control channel as part of HDMI. On 6/11/16, 5:22 AM, "Simon Fogarty" wrote: >Yeah, > >I've got a Samsung 32 inch led tv, I click one of the buttons on the apple tv >remote and the Samsung tv turns on

Re: Hosting a website on a Mac Mini?

2016-06-11 Thread Scott Granados
So I wouldn’t do this unless it’s a dedicated machine.  You can do things to limit your exposure but the fact is if you have the server on the public internet and your personal data is in it then it’s exposed.  You really should keep them separate.  That being said if you want to do it, there’s

Re: bar instead of function keys on new Mac Book Pros?

2016-06-11 Thread Scott Granados
Tim, well said, only other thing I’d add is remember that Apple hires blind engineers as well.  I know one myself and it encourages me that blind engineers are directly involved in the accessibility effort at apple.  It’s one thing when a company gives accessibility lip service but it’s another

Re: bar instead of function keys on new Mac Book Pros?

2016-06-11 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I wasn't complaining, or, in your word, pissfesting. . I wasn't even the one who started this thread in the first place. I was simply trying to be respectful enough to allow for clarification on a post which I've undoubtedly misunderstood. Is that not OK? --- Christopher Gilland JAWS

Re: bar instead of function keys on new Mac Book Pros?

2016-06-11 Thread Scott Granados
Chris, there’s always bitching on this list about any change, you’ve done it yourself and I bet I have done it as well.:) Whether it’s the 3.5 inch jack issue, this light bar issue, issues in licensing changes, the introduction of touch screens in to phones, I remember a certain someone who

Re: bar instead of function keys on new Mac Book Pros?

2016-06-11 Thread E.T.
Ray is the creator who started this rumor. This is the last line in his email. "I can almost imagine the e-mails now." Read into that what you like. Moving on... From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were

Re: bar instead of function keys on new Mac Book Pros?

2016-06-11 Thread Daniel Miller
Holy wow. This thread is turning into a gigantic piss fest. Maybe we should all just wait until Apple announces something, whenever they announce it. If they do indeed still give us function keys, everybody can go back to being a nice happy little family. Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus > On Jun

Re: Hosting a website on a Mac Mini?

2016-06-11 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
You should be just fine. Just make sure you open port 80 on your router/firewall, and port forward it to the private IP of your mac. I actually would either get OSX server, or get Mamp. Mainly because that way you'll also have access to php, and to My SQL in case you need them. ---

Re: bar instead of function keys on new Mac Book Pros?

2016-06-11 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
OK, then clarify, please, as I'm obviously confused, but would like to give you a fair chance to explain. I'm confused about your comment when you said: I thought I’d start that little rumour and see what happened. Chris. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac

Re: bar instead of function keys on new Mac Book Pros?

2016-06-11 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Simon wrote: The way most people are talking is that this is the end of apple computers in a usable state for the voiceover using world. I wouldn't go that far! Chris. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or

Re: seeing my contacts on my new mac

2016-06-11 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, First, confirm that your using the same Apple ID and that Contacts is checked in the iCloud pane of System Preferences for each Mac and iDevice. Second, on your MBP, go into your Contacts app, and make sure that either All Contacts or iCloud is selected in the Groups table. If you still

Re: Hosting a website on a Mac Mini?

2016-06-11 Thread Blee Blat
You should be fine with a good firewall and properly configured software. I ran a mail server for a long time on the same box as everything else and what you're doing is probably less annoying to configure than that. Just make sure everything you're using is updated and you should be good. --

Hosting a website on a Mac Mini?

2016-06-11 Thread Alex Hall
Hi all, I just got a domain name, to use for testing something at work with emails. I figured I may as well use it to host, well, whatever I want to. I have a Mac Mini with 8GB ram and an SSD, and I don't expect much traffic on this site at all. My questions, then: * Is this machine suited to

Re: Something is Amiss with the side bar

2016-06-11 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
They were usually, Inn in Safari there are items in the view menu to hide components of the screen that you don't want to see. Best wishes, Jonathan Cohn > On Jun 11, 2016, at 7:52 AM, Sandra E. Finley wrote: > > I have apparently messed up some kind of setting. I

Re: bar instead of function keys on new Mac Book Pros?

2016-06-11 Thread Daniel Miller
Who even said they're announcing these machines on Monday or Tuesday? Lmao hilarious. Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus > On Jun 11, 2016, at 5:15 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: > > NO, > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On

Something is Amiss with the side bar

2016-06-11 Thread Sandra E . Finley
I have apparently messed up some kind of setting. I often go into safari, either by opening the browser myself or via a link in an email, and access an article with the show reader command or swipe down with 2 fingers to read. Now, instead of getting what I want to read, I am getting "tool

RE: Apple TV 4th Generation

2016-06-11 Thread Simon Fogarty
Yeah, I've got a Samsung 32 inch led tv, I click one of the buttons on the apple tv remote and the Samsung tv turns on It starts off at the standard tv channel and then approximately a second after it turns on it flicks over to the correct HDMI input, I have a blueray player connected via

RE: bar instead of function keys on new Mac Book Pros?

2016-06-11 Thread Simon Fogarty
NO, From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Saturday, 11 June 2016 4:06 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: bar instead of function keys on new Mac Book Pros? Wait! OK, maybe it's now me! that's

RE: bar instead of function keys on new Mac Book Pros?

2016-06-11 Thread Simon Fogarty
You know, I’m kind of keen to wait until apple announce what they announce on Tuesday morning and then worry about it when the devices turn up on the world markets, The way most people are talking is that this is the end of apple computers in a usable state for the voiceover using world. Lets

RE: Apple TV 4th Generation

2016-06-11 Thread Simon Fogarty
Yeah you got me thinking, but I haven't found a good one here yet, might have a look at amazon Thanks for the thought. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. Sent: Saturday, 11 June 2016 3:03 PM To:

Fw: seeing my contacts on my new mac

2016-06-11 Thread don bishop
> > > Hi all, > The macbook pro is working well, but one problem. I have an imac and iphone. > I see my contacts on both. But, can't see them on the new macbook. Contacts > seems 6be set in icloud on the new mac, so not sure what I need to do to see > my contacts. > Any suggestions? > >

Re: Apple TV 4th Generation

2016-06-11 Thread christopher hallsworth
No I’m not, I forgot to edit that bit and replied with an apology and a correction. > On 10 Jun 2016, at 19:54, Christopher-Mark Gilland > wrote: > > Wait, > > Your owner and myself? You're not any kind of an admin, are you? I'm > confused. > --- > Christopher

Re: Apple TV 4th Generation

2016-06-11 Thread christopher hallsworth
Sounds good, so does your Apple TV automatically switch to the appropriate HDMI input source or does this truly depend on a feature I read about, HDMI CEC, available on recent televisions and home theatre equipment? > On 11 Jun 2016, at 03:31, Simon Fogarty wrote: > > Hi