Re: apple watch buy or wait?

[David Chittenden]

Apple Watch and iPhone count total steps per day, and flights of stairs climbed.

Apple Watch also regularly takes one's heartrate / pulse. Apple Watch also has 
work-out profiles for running, jogging, swimming, arobics, and (I believe) 
weight training.

I practice Martial Arts, but I do not ware my Apple Watch during practice, so 
have not checked for such a profile.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone

> On 16 Apr 2018, at 15:17, sandi sørensen  wrote:
> 
> How much health does the watch track, though?
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 16 Apr 2018, at 06.23, lenron brown  wrote:
>> 
>> I have waited this long, so I guess I will just wait for the 4 I would
>> hate to buy the 3 now, and have the 4 be so much better
>> 
>>> On 4/15/18, David Chittenden  wrote:
>>> First, I love my Apple Watch Series 3. I mainly use the silent time check,
>>> the vibration alerts (especially for navigation with Apple Maps), and the
>>> ability to make/answer calls when my iPhone is not with me. Oh yes, and the
>>> health tracking.
>>> 
>>> That said, if a new Apple Watch comes out later this year, it promises to be
>>> even better. At that time, I will sell my Series 3 Cellular, and get a
>>> Series 4 Cellular.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On 16 Apr 2018, at 11:41, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
 
 Wait,
 
 I’d say wait
 Is there really any reason to buy now when you can wait to get the new
 one in 5 months,
 
 
 
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 Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli
 Sent: Monday, 16 April 2018 8:40 AM
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 Cc: viph...@googlegroups.com
 Subject: apple watch buy or wait?
 
 Just came in to the funds to get an Apple Watch series 3. I have a series
 1. Should I buy now, or wait till September?
 
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Re: apple watch buy or wait?

[sandi sørensen]

How much health does the watch track, though?


Sent from my iPad

> On 16 Apr 2018, at 06.23, lenron brown  wrote:
> 
> I have waited this long, so I guess I will just wait for the 4 I would
> hate to buy the 3 now, and have the 4 be so much better
> 
>> On 4/15/18, David Chittenden  wrote:
>> First, I love my Apple Watch Series 3. I mainly use the silent time check,
>> the vibration alerts (especially for navigation with Apple Maps), and the
>> ability to make/answer calls when my iPhone is not with me. Oh yes, and the
>> health tracking.
>> 
>> That said, if a new Apple Watch comes out later this year, it promises to be
>> even better. At that time, I will sell my Series 3 Cellular, and get a
>> Series 4 Cellular.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 16 Apr 2018, at 11:41, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wait,
>>> 
>>> I’d say wait
>>> Is there really any reason to buy now when you can wait to get the new
>>> one in 5 months,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli
>>> Sent: Monday, 16 April 2018 8:40 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Cc: viph...@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: apple watch buy or wait?
>>> 
>>> Just came in to the funds to get an Apple Watch series 3. I have a series
>>> 1. Should I buy now, or wait till September?
>>> 
>>> Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
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Re: apple watch buy or wait?

[lenron brown]

I have waited this long, so I guess I will just wait for the 4 I would
hate to buy the 3 now, and have the 4 be so much better

On 4/15/18, David Chittenden  wrote:
> First, I love my Apple Watch Series 3. I mainly use the silent time check,
> the vibration alerts (especially for navigation with Apple Maps), and the
> ability to make/answer calls when my iPhone is not with me. Oh yes, and the
> health tracking.
>
> That said, if a new Apple Watch comes out later this year, it promises to be
> even better. At that time, I will sell my Series 3 Cellular, and get a
> Series 4 Cellular.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 16 Apr 2018, at 11:41, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>
>> Wait,
>>
>> I’d say wait
>>  Is there really any reason to buy now when you can wait to get the new
>> one in 5 months,
>>
>>
>>
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On
>> Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli
>> Sent: Monday, 16 April 2018 8:40 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Cc: viph...@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: apple watch buy or wait?
>>
>> Just came in to the funds to get an Apple Watch series 3. I have a series
>> 1. Should I buy now, or wait till September?
>>
>> Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
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Re: Google drive & sync and backup drive download

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

I believe that there's a checkbox or something like that, that needs to be 
checked before the download will start.  If I remember correctly, it's not 
particularly obvious and it's not initially announced by VO.  You may need to 
do some looking around the page to see if you can find it.  If you still have 
problems with that, let me know and I'll try the download again.  I've still 
got the original dmg download on my Mac, so I've just been using it for 
installation on other machines.  I'm not sure why Google promotes the other two 
options, as I find Google Drive File Stream to be my best option.  I guess 
that's a matter of opinion though.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 15, 2018, at 20:06, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:

Hi Tim,

Thanks for this but I have a question: is Google File Stream the same as Sync 
and Backup which the alert message mentions?  Also, once I am able to get it, 
will it automatically replace Google Drive, or do I have to delete it manually? 
 As I’ve said previously the alert message about Google Drive being 
discontinued contains a link to download its replacement but the download link 
on the page doesn’t seem to respond.  Any further suggestions, Tim?

Thanks again

Andrew
> On Apr 16, 2018, at 1:05 AM, Tim Kilburn  > wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> The Google Drive Desktop app and related interface is going away real soon.  
> I suggest you download and install Google Drive File Stream.  It allows you 
> to have all your Google Drive files available to you, but they do not use up 
> space on the local drive unless you purposely download the item for off-line 
> use.  It has save me huge amounts of disk space on my Macs without affecting 
> my Google Drive space on in the Cloud.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 15, 2018, at 17:24, Maria Reyes  > wrote:
> 
> I’m not exactually sure what this is, but I have the same thing on my windows 
> laptop. 
>  
> Sent from Mail  for Windows 10
>  
> From: Andrew Lamanche 
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 5:18 PM
> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Google drive & sync and backup drive download
>  
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> book pro, I get a message that tells me Google Drive is going away soon, and 
> is being replaced by Sync and Backup.  The message contains a link to “learn 
> more’ and “download”.  The download button opens up the relevant page in 
> Safari but when I press download link, nothing happens.  Has anyone else had 
> this happen to them?
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> Andrew
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Re: New Apple watch features

[David Chittenden]

Yes, this is one of the rumours.

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> On 16 Apr 2018, at 12:17, Maria Reyes  wrote:
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> Hi, I thought I heard somewhere that in WatchOS 5 there will be a new feature 
> that allows third party watch faces. Has anyone else heard of this feature?
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New Apple watch features

[Maria Reyes]

Hi, I thought I heard somewhere that in WatchOS 5 there will be a new feature 
that allows third party watch faces. Has anyone else heard of this feature? 

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Re: Google drive & sync and backup drive download

[Andrew Lamanche]

Hi Tim,

Thanks for this but I have a question: is Google File Stream the same as Sync 
and Backup which the alert message mentions?  Also, once I am able to get it, 
will it automatically replace Google Drive, or do I have to delete it manually? 
 As I’ve said previously the alert message about Google Drive being 
discontinued contains a link to download its replacement but the download link 
on the page doesn’t seem to respond.  Any further suggestions, Tim?

Thanks again

Andrew
> On Apr 16, 2018, at 1:05 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The Google Drive Desktop app and related interface is going away real soon.  
> I suggest you download and install Google Drive File Stream.  It allows you 
> to have all your Google Drive files available to you, but they do not use up 
> space on the local drive unless you purposely download the item for off-line 
> use.  It has save me huge amounts of disk space on my Macs without affecting 
> my Google Drive space on in the Cloud.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 15, 2018, at 17:24, Maria Reyes  > wrote:
> 
> I’m not exactually sure what this is, but I have the same thing on my windows 
> laptop. 
>  
> Sent from Mail  for Windows 10
>  
> From: Andrew Lamanche 
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 5:18 PM
> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Google drive & sync and backup drive download
>  
> For a couple of weeks now, as soon as I restart my macwhen Google Drive was 
> installed it was called backup and sync. After closing out everything, I’m 
> taken to this backup and sync thing and I can’t really navigate through it. 
> book pro, I get a message that tells me Google Drive is going away soon, and 
> is being replaced by Sync and Backup.  The message contains a link to “learn 
> more’ and “download”.  The download button opens up the relevant page in 
> Safari but when I press download link, nothing happens.  Has anyone else had 
> this happen to them?
>  
> Andrew
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Re: apple watch buy or wait?

[David Chittenden]

First, I love my Apple Watch Series 3. I mainly use the silent time check, the 
vibration alerts (especially for navigation with Apple Maps), and the ability 
to make/answer calls when my iPhone is not with me. Oh yes, and the health 
tracking.

That said, if a new Apple Watch comes out later this year, it promises to be 
even better. At that time, I will sell my Series 3 Cellular, and get a Series 4 
Cellular.

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Sent from my iPhone

> On 16 Apr 2018, at 11:41, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Wait,
>  
> I’d say wait
>  Is there really any reason to buy now when you can wait to get the new one 
> in 5 months,
>  
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
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> Subject: apple watch buy or wait?
>  
> Just came in to the funds to get an Apple Watch series 3. I have a series 1. 
> Should I buy now, or wait till September?
>  
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RE: apple watch buy or wait?

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeah me to how ever I can’t in nz as the mobile providers aren’t supporting 
them.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
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Sent: Monday, 16 April 2018 9:46 AM
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Subject: RE: apple watch buy or wait?

I definitely will get the celluliar mottle.
Just not sure. I can affoard it. Got a gift card from Apple.

Sarai D Bucciarelli 
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Subject: Re: apple watch buy or wait?

Your call, and there's no easy answer. Personally, I'm waiting. I have a Series 
2, which is the same as yours but with GPS and better waterproofing. I'm 
sitting out the Series 3 and hoping that a new one comes along this fall. If it 
does and it's worth it, I'll upgrade then, because my 2 works well enough for 
me. If the 4 comes along and isn't worth it, I'll get a 3 for a cheaper price 
than I'd pay now. If no 4 materializes, I'll be sad, but my 2 will continue to 
work. If watchOS 5 makes my current unit unusable, which I doubt, I'll look at 
upgrading even if the next Apple Watch isn't out this fall.

Of course, you could upgrade now if you have the spare funds. You'll get a 
better experience in the months left before the fall, and if you want to 
upgrade to the 4, you'll get a much better resale price for a 3 than a 1. 
You'll also get a better idea of the improvement you can expect in a new Apple 
Watch, which can inform your choice of whether, with its power, you should 
consider a cellular model.
Sent from my iPhone

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Just came in to the funds to get an Apple Watch series 3. I have a series 1. 
Should I buy now, or wait till September?

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RE: apple watch buy or wait?

[Simon Fogarty]

Wait,

I’d say wait
 Is there really any reason to buy now when you can wait to get the new one in 
5 months,



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Subject: apple watch buy or wait?

Just came in to the funds to get an Apple Watch series 3. I have a series 1. 
Should I buy now, or wait till September?

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RE: Further to earlier mail re playing audio content on my Mac

[Simon Fogarty]

Thanks Ann,

I’m happy to give andy a call also,
But I’m in a totally different time zone from him,
Possibly 12 hours but hey times what you make of it.

So Andy if Ann is unable please let me know but I’m sure she will do the same 
thing I will give you.

Good luck.

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Sent: Monday, 16 April 2018 6:40 AM
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Subject: Re: Further to earlier mail re playing audio content on my Mac

Hello Andy,

I’m in France and I have free phone calls to the UK, so if you’d like me to 
help you by phone, e-mail me at:
a...@anarchie.org.uk
and give me your fixed phone number and I’ll try to get you online.
Cheers,

Anne



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Hi Simon, Andrew, others and Steve.

Thankyou all for offering me your help with Skype or facebook or by email, in 
respect to helping me play audio content on my Mac.


One of the big attractions for me to get a Macbook was because I could talk 
with my family in Sydney and Canada by using Facetime.

Unfortunately, I've not progressed far enough to set these facilities up.

The main reason is that I cannot connect to the internet on my Macbook.

Other devices such as my Iphone, my Wife's Dell lap-top and my Window 7 
computer are all coping with the wired or wy fy facilities of my roughter, so 
the problems I am having lay within my Macbook.

Here is what is happening.

When I boot up my Macbook and after the standard introduction, I get the 
following message:

"Application Alert - System Dialogue -  - This Mac cannot connect to Icloud  
because of a problem with 
meikle.ai...@btinternet.com". "Open System 
Preferences of Icloud to fix this problem"


So obviously I'm not on-line and before I can go further in my learning with 
music, I really need to be able to resolve this.

Despite several attempts at going into System Preferences, I just end up in a 
maize.

You see, I simply don't have the knowledge or skills to mess around in there.

If this makes my position a little clearer, then that's great and I'd welcome 
any advice.

I have however managed to get one-to one help from SITE Glasgow shortly but 
because I'm going to be on holiday for a week, I cannot get this support for a 
few weeks.

I was actually thinking of taking my Macbook to Spain with me on holiday and 
spend most evenings going through, Janet Ingber's wonderful book.

Perhaps I may well yet.  I go on holiday on 21 May for 1 week, so perhaps I can 
resolve this issue befor then.

Very best wishes and thanks again for your on-going support.

Very best wishes.

Andy.
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RE: Using Swift to Dev Apps

[Simon Fogarty]

Yes I thought that also.



From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Maria Reyes
Sent: Monday, 16 April 2018 4:37 AM
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Subject: Re: Using Swift to Dev Apps

i think Swift goes with Objective C.
Sent from my sprint iPhone X!!!

On Apr 15, 2018, at 10:54 AM, Jonathan Cohn 
> wrote:
Hello,

As Alex already mentioned, Swift is a programming language. The actuall code 
that interfaces with IOS is the "Frameworks" I am sure you have heard of Webkit 
and AppKit these are specific frameworks, which are essentially just  libraries 
of objects, methods and properties that provides  some functionality. There is 
even the ability to do ".NET" programming directly for IOS devices using I 
believe Visual Studio Code. If you are looking to develop Applications on 
Macintosh that better interface with AD products that is probably the way to 
go, though I have not read anything.

HTH,
Jonathan Cohn



On Apr 14, 2018, at 4:41 AM, Simon Fogarty 
> wrote:

Hi Tim,

Thanks and yes this is exactly what I’m looking for.

The itunes U wasn’t something I’d have thought of but will check it out.

Developing apps for the iPad
Does that need to be done on the iPad or within the IOS platform I guess SDK or 
is there a swift development kit for the Mac OS platform also,
Or is that an x code SDK with swift coding abilities also?

I was told there was an emulator for the IOS platform on the mac os app store!

Ch eers for now ans if you have any other suggestions please let me know.
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> On 
Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Friday, 13 April 2018 2:39 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using Swift to Dev Apps

Hi Simon,

I am supposed to promote these titles in iBooks when doing presentations to 
teachers and such, so I'll suggest them to you as well.  In the iBooks Store, 
type "Swift" into the Search field and check out the results.  My 
recommendation is to first download Swift Playgrounds to your iPad and go 
through the Learn to Code with Swift Playgrounds 1, 2 and 3.  There is also an 
iTunes U course you can take which is found in the iTunes U app on your iPad.  
Open the iTunes U app, double-tap the Featured tab, activate the
search field, then type Playground.  There should be the Learn to Code with 
Swift Playground course there and some other titles.  There are App Development 
iBooks as well that will show up when you do the previous search in the iBooks 
Store.  Hopefully, this is the sort of thing that you're looking for.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 12, 2018, at 04:22, Simon Fogarty 
> wrote:

Hi Listers,

I've got a couple of things I'd like to develop in the way of apps for IOS and 
wondered if anyone had information on the best way to get into app development?

I've just purchased myself a new iPad Pro 10.5 inch 256GB device which will be 
somewhat easier to carry around and work on.

But need to start looking at swift development
Another question is
Can you develop apps on the iPad or do you have to do it on / via Mac OS and an 
SDK

Cheers.

Simon F

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RE: Using Swift to Dev Apps

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Jonathan,

Thanks for this,

Yeah something I’m looking at is windows related which is why I wondered about 
the use of c#  as the coding language.

I’ll take a look at these things and see what more I can do.


From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Monday, 16 April 2018 2:54 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using Swift to Dev Apps

Hello,

As Alex already mentioned, Swift is a programming language. The actuall code 
that interfaces with IOS is the "Frameworks" I am sure you have heard of Webkit 
and AppKit these are specific frameworks, which are essentially just  libraries 
of objects, methods and properties that provides  some functionality. There is 
even the ability to do ".NET" programming directly for IOS devices using I 
believe Visual Studio Code. If you are looking to develop Applications on 
Macintosh that better interface with AD products that is probably the way to 
go, though I have not read anything.

HTH,
Jonathan Cohn



On Apr 14, 2018, at 4:41 AM, Simon Fogarty 
> wrote:

Hi Tim,

Thanks and yes this is exactly what I’m looking for.

The itunes U wasn’t something I’d have thought of but will check it out.

Developing apps for the iPad
Does that need to be done on the iPad or within the IOS platform I guess SDK or 
is there a swift development kit for the Mac OS platform also,
Or is that an x code SDK with swift coding abilities also?

I was told there was an emulator for the IOS platform on the mac os app store!

Ch eers for now ans if you have any other suggestions please let me know.
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> On 
Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Friday, 13 April 2018 2:39 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using Swift to Dev Apps

Hi Simon,

I am supposed to promote these titles in iBooks when doing presentations to 
teachers and such, so I'll suggest them to you as well.  In the iBooks Store, 
type "Swift" into the Search field and check out the results.  My 
recommendation is to first download Swift Playgrounds to your iPad and go 
through the Learn to Code with Swift Playgrounds 1, 2 and 3.  There is also an 
iTunes U course you can take which is found in the iTunes U app on your iPad.  
Open the iTunes U app, double-tap the Featured tab, activate the
search field, then type Playground.  There should be the Learn to Code with 
Swift Playground course there and some other titles.  There are App Development 
iBooks as well that will show up when you do the previous search in the iBooks 
Store.  Hopefully, this is the sort of thing that you're looking for.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 12, 2018, at 04:22, Simon Fogarty 
> wrote:

Hi Listers,

I've got a couple of things I'd like to develop in the way of apps for IOS and 
wondered if anyone had information on the best way to get into app development?

I've just purchased myself a new iPad Pro 10.5 inch 256GB device which will be 
somewhat easier to carry around and work on.

But need to start looking at swift development
Another question is
Can you develop apps on the iPad or do you have to do it on / via Mac OS and an 
SDK

Cheers.

Simon F

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RE: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?

[Maria Reyes]

Danny, 
To enable Touch ID go to settings > touch ID and passcode then follow the 
steps. Then go to the website. Make sure you are after the prediction bar or 
the keyboard. I think the button is called autofill contact. 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 8:28 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?

I did not see any support for auto fill in assistive touch where I was hoping 
to find it to help with this issue.

Oh well, I guess there is accessibil...@apple.com .

On Apr 15, 2018, at 10:32 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:

Unfortunately this is not a bug but a feature. There were concerns about 
auto-fill inputting information without users knowledge. I guess somebody 
figured out a way to use autofill functionality with JavaScript to cause logins 
or other activities without user knowledge. I did recently read how even a 
carefully crafted CSS could be used to steal passwords and usernames, though I 
would think that autofill would prevent that type of hack.. In any case, in 
addition to allowing webforms on other applications to use Safari Autofill 
information, they now require that autofill only works after tapping a point on 
the screen. I wonder if they added any autofill to the low mobility interfaces.


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



On Apr 15, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:

Hi all,
I'm always beta testing, so I'm used to ignoring small bugs that get fixed in 
final builds. Yesterday, though, I updated a client's iPad to iOS 11.3, and the 
iPad stopped auto-filling the client's Amazon password. I noticed this in the 
betas on my own devices, but thought nothing of it.

We do a lot of work with Amazon and Audible, so this is a pretty big annoyance. 
The option to fill in the password is there, but the password no longer appears 
automatically as it used to. Now, the client has to find the option to fill it 
in above the keyboard, while trying not to touch somewhere on the page and thus 
dismiss the keyboard. Is there any way to get things back to how they were? 
Thanks for any ideas.

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Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?

[Jonathan Cohn]

I did not see any support for auto fill in assistive touch where I was hoping 
to find it to help with this issue.

Oh well, I guess there is accessibil...@apple.com 
 .

> On Apr 15, 2018, at 10:32 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately this is not a bug but a feature. There were concerns about 
> auto-fill inputting information without users knowledge. I guess somebody 
> figured out a way to use autofill functionality with JavaScript to cause 
> logins or other activities without user knowledge. I did recently read how 
> even a carefully crafted CSS could be used to steal passwords and usernames, 
> though I would think that autofill would prevent that type of hack.. In any 
> case, in addition to allowing webforms on other applications to use Safari 
> Autofill information, they now require that autofill only works after tapping 
> a point on the screen. I wonder if they added any autofill to the low 
> mobility interfaces.
> 
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 15, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Alex Hall > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I'm always beta testing, so I'm used to ignoring small bugs that get fixed 
>> in final builds. Yesterday, though, I updated a client's iPad to iOS 11.3, 
>> and the iPad stopped auto-filling the client's Amazon password. I noticed 
>> this in the betas on my own devices, but thought nothing of it.
>> 
>> We do a lot of work with Amazon and Audible, so this is a pretty big 
>> annoyance. The option to fill in the password is there, but the password no 
>> longer appears automatically as it used to. Now, the client has to find the 
>> option to fill it in above the keyboard, while trying not to touch somewhere 
>> on the page and thus dismiss the keyboard. Is there any way to get things 
>> back to how they were? Thanks for any ideas.
>> 
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>> 
>> 
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RE: apple watch buy or wait?

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

It’s not technically free, but lets just say the majority would be paid for. 

 

Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 
  

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 5:01 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: apple watch buy or wait?

 

If it's free, at least as far as your bank account is concerned, and you use 
the Watch enough, why not go for it? I didn't realize you had a gift card for 
it. If you upgrade now, then want to upgrade again this fall, you can sell the 
Series 3 to offset the cost. You'd essentially get the 3 for free now, then get 
a 4 at a discount thanks to the sale of the 3. That's a good deal any way you 
look at it. You could also hang onto the card until the 4 arrives, but I would 
figure that the extra you'd pay for a 4, if you upgrade at all, is worth it if 
the 3 has better performance and gives you the cellular option you want. Enjoy 
it for the spring and summer, then see what the fall brings. That's what I'd do 
if I were you. I'm only not upgrading because my cost would come from my 
account, but if I had your chance, I'd go for it.


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On Apr 15, 2018, at 17:45, Sarai Bucciarelli  > wrote:

 

I definitely will get the celluliar mottle.

Just not sure. I can affoard it. Got a gift card from Apple.

 

Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 
  

 

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 > On 
Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 4:29 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
Cc: viph...@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: apple watch buy or wait?

 

Your call, and there's no easy answer. Personally, I'm waiting. I have a Series 
2, which is the same as yours but with GPS and better waterproofing. I'm 
sitting out the Series 3 and hoping that a new one comes along this fall. If it 
does and it's worth it, I'll upgrade then, because my 2 works well enough for 
me. If the 4 comes along and isn't worth it, I'll get a 3 for a cheaper price 
than I'd pay now. If no 4 materializes, I'll be sad, but my 2 will continue to 
work. If watchOS 5 makes my current unit unusable, which I doubt, I'll look at 
upgrading even if the next Apple Watch isn't out this fall.

 

Of course, you could upgrade now if you have the spare funds. You'll get a 
better experience in the months left before the fall, and if you want to 
upgrade to the 4, you'll get a much better resale price for a 3 than a 1. 
You'll also get a better idea of the improvement you can expect in a new Apple 
Watch, which can inform your choice of whether, with its power, you should 
consider a cellular model.

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 15, 2018, at 16:40, Sarai Bucciarelli  > wrote:

Just came in to the funds to get an Apple Watch series 3. I have a series 1. 
Should I buy now, or wait till September?

 

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Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?

[Danny Keys]

Hello,
Ok, this what I can do so far.
I can double tap on the prediction after I activate the email or user name 
field. Then the user name and password are displayed. However, O do not see 
anywhere a button for finger print. Nor does the finger print button work. Is 
it necessary to activate finger print id first? Cause I sure cant find any way 
to activate the home button/finger print.



Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 15, 2018, at 4:41 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
> 
> Hi, the button is right before the prediction bar and the keyboard.
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>  
> From: Danny Keys
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 7:30 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?
>  
> Hello,
>  
> Interesting. Where's this button to activate the fingerprint when filling 
> user names and passwords, don't see it.
>  
>  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 15, 2018, at 4:06 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
> 
> Hi, that’s the only way I’ve figured out how to do it. If you have Touch ID 
> enabled, it should ask you for your fingerprint after you double tap on the 
> button.
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>  
> From: Alex Hall
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 3:51 PM
> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
> Subject: Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?
>  
> Thanks guys. I wish there would be an alert, asking for a fingerprint to 
> allow auto-fill. Short of that, is there an easier way to do this? One of the 
> responses in this thread mentioned tapping a point on the screen, but how 
> does that work for VoiceOver users? My workaround is to use the prediction 
> above the keyboard, but if there's an easier way, I'd love to know about it. 
> Thanks.
> 
> --
> Alex Hall
>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 15, 2018, at 10:32, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>  
> Unfortunately this is not a bug but a feature. There were concerns about 
> auto-fill inputting information without users knowledge. I guess somebody 
> figured out a way to use autofill functionality with JavaScript to cause 
> logins or other activities without user knowledge. I did recently read how 
> even a carefully crafted CSS could be used to steal passwords and usernames, 
> though I would think that autofill would prevent that type of hack.. In any 
> case, in addition to allowing webforms on other applications to use Safari 
> Autofill information, they now require that autofill only works after tapping 
> a point on the screen. I wonder if they added any autofill to the low 
> mobility interfaces.
>  
>  
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 15, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>  
> Hi all,
> I'm always beta testing, so I'm used to ignoring small bugs that get fixed in 
> final builds. Yesterday, though, I updated a client's iPad to iOS 11.3, and 
> the iPad stopped auto-filling the client's Amazon password. I noticed this in 
> the betas on my own devices, but thought nothing of it.
>  
> We do a lot of work with Amazon and Audible, so this is a pretty big 
> annoyance. The option to fill in the password is there, but the password no 
> longer appears automatically as it used to. Now, the client has to find the 
> option to fill it in above the keyboard, while trying not to touch somewhere 
> on the page and thus dismiss the keyboard. Is there any way to get things 
> back to how they were? Thanks for any ideas.
> 
> --
> Alex Hall
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Re: Google drive & sync and backup drive download

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

The Google Drive Desktop app and related interface is going away real soon.  I 
suggest you download and install Google Drive File Stream.  It allows you to 
have all your Google Drive files available to you, but they do not use up space 
on the local drive unless you purposely download the item for off-line use.  It 
has save me huge amounts of disk space on my Macs without affecting my Google 
Drive space on in the Cloud.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 15, 2018, at 17:24, Maria Reyes  wrote:

I’m not exactually sure what this is, but I have the same thing on my windows 
laptop. 
 
Sent from Mail  for Windows 10
 
From: Andrew Lamanche 
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 5:18 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Google drive & sync and backup drive download
 
For a couple of weeks now, as soon as I restart my macwhen Google Drive was 
installed it was called backup and sync. After closing out everything, I’m 
taken to this backup and sync thing and I can’t really navigate through it. 
book pro, I get a message that tells me Google Drive is going away soon, and is 
being replaced by Sync and Backup.  The message contains a link to “learn more’ 
and “download”.  The download button opens up the relevant page in Safari but 
when I press download link, nothing happens.  Has anyone else had this happen 
to them?
 
Andrew
 
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Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?

[Danny Keys]

Hello,
Thanks. I'll give it another try.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 15, 2018, at 4:41 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
> 
> Hi, the button is right before the prediction bar and the keyboard.
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>  
> From: Danny Keys
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 7:30 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?
>  
> Hello,
>  
> Interesting. Where's this button to activate the fingerprint when filling 
> user names and passwords, don't see it.
>  
>  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 15, 2018, at 4:06 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
> 
> Hi, that’s the only way I’ve figured out how to do it. If you have Touch ID 
> enabled, it should ask you for your fingerprint after you double tap on the 
> button.
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>  
> From: Alex Hall
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 3:51 PM
> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
> Subject: Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?
>  
> Thanks guys. I wish there would be an alert, asking for a fingerprint to 
> allow auto-fill. Short of that, is there an easier way to do this? One of the 
> responses in this thread mentioned tapping a point on the screen, but how 
> does that work for VoiceOver users? My workaround is to use the prediction 
> above the keyboard, but if there's an easier way, I'd love to know about it. 
> Thanks.
> 
> --
> Alex Hall
>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 15, 2018, at 10:32, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>  
> Unfortunately this is not a bug but a feature. There were concerns about 
> auto-fill inputting information without users knowledge. I guess somebody 
> figured out a way to use autofill functionality with JavaScript to cause 
> logins or other activities without user knowledge. I did recently read how 
> even a carefully crafted CSS could be used to steal passwords and usernames, 
> though I would think that autofill would prevent that type of hack.. In any 
> case, in addition to allowing webforms on other applications to use Safari 
> Autofill information, they now require that autofill only works after tapping 
> a point on the screen. I wonder if they added any autofill to the low 
> mobility interfaces.
>  
>  
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 15, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>  
> Hi all,
> I'm always beta testing, so I'm used to ignoring small bugs that get fixed in 
> final builds. Yesterday, though, I updated a client's iPad to iOS 11.3, and 
> the iPad stopped auto-filling the client's Amazon password. I noticed this in 
> the betas on my own devices, but thought nothing of it.
>  
> We do a lot of work with Amazon and Audible, so this is a pretty big 
> annoyance. The option to fill in the password is there, but the password no 
> longer appears automatically as it used to. Now, the client has to find the 
> option to fill it in above the keyboard, while trying not to touch somewhere 
> on the page and thus dismiss the keyboard. Is there any way to get things 
> back to how they were? Thanks for any ideas.
> 
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RE: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?

[Maria Reyes]

Hi, the button is right before the prediction bar and the keyboard.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Danny Keys
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 7:30 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?

Hello,

Interesting. Where's this button to activate the fingerprint when filling user 
names and passwords, don't see it.


Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 15, 2018, at 4:06 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
Hi, that’s the only way I’ve figured out how to do it. If you have Touch ID 
enabled, it should ask you for your fingerprint after you double tap on the 
button. 
 
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 
From: Alex Hall
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 3:51 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Subject: Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?
 
Thanks guys. I wish there would be an alert, asking for a fingerprint to allow 
auto-fill. Short of that, is there an easier way to do this? One of the 
responses in this thread mentioned tapping a point on the screen, but how does 
that work for VoiceOver users? My workaround is to use the prediction above the 
keyboard, but if there's an easier way, I'd love to know about it. Thanks.

--
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On Apr 15, 2018, at 10:32, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
 
Unfortunately this is not a bug but a feature. There were concerns about 
auto-fill inputting information without users knowledge. I guess somebody 
figured out a way to use autofill functionality with JavaScript to cause logins 
or other activities without user knowledge. I did recently read how even a 
carefully crafted CSS could be used to steal passwords and usernames, though I 
would think that autofill would prevent that type of hack.. In any case, in 
addition to allowing webforms on other applications to use Safari Autofill 
information, they now require that autofill only works after tapping a point on 
the screen. I wonder if they added any autofill to the low mobility interfaces.
 
 
  Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn





On Apr 15, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
 
Hi all,
I'm always beta testing, so I'm used to ignoring small bugs that get fixed in 
final builds. Yesterday, though, I updated a client's iPad to iOS 11.3, and the 
iPad stopped auto-filling the client's Amazon password. I noticed this in the 
betas on my own devices, but thought nothing of it.
 
We do a lot of work with Amazon and Audible, so this is a pretty big annoyance. 
The option to fill in the password is there, but the password no longer appears 
automatically as it used to. Now, the client has to find the option to fill it 
in above the keyboard, while trying not to touch somewhere on the page and thus 
dismiss the keyboard. Is there any way to get things back to how they were? 
Thanks for any ideas.

--
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Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?

[Danny Keys]

Hello,

Interesting. Where's this button to activate the fingerprint when filling user 
names and passwords, don't see it.



Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 15, 2018, at 4:06 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
> 
> Hi, that’s the only way I’ve figured out how to do it. If you have Touch ID 
> enabled, it should ask you for your fingerprint after you double tap on the 
> button.
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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> From: Alex Hall
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 3:51 PM
> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
> Subject: Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?
>  
> Thanks guys. I wish there would be an alert, asking for a fingerprint to 
> allow auto-fill. Short of that, is there an easier way to do this? One of the 
> responses in this thread mentioned tapping a point on the screen, but how 
> does that work for VoiceOver users? My workaround is to use the prediction 
> above the keyboard, but if there's an easier way, I'd love to know about it. 
> Thanks.
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>  
>  
> 
> 
> On Apr 15, 2018, at 10:32, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>  
> Unfortunately this is not a bug but a feature. There were concerns about 
> auto-fill inputting information without users knowledge. I guess somebody 
> figured out a way to use autofill functionality with JavaScript to cause 
> logins or other activities without user knowledge. I did recently read how 
> even a carefully crafted CSS could be used to steal passwords and usernames, 
> though I would think that autofill would prevent that type of hack.. In any 
> case, in addition to allowing webforms on other applications to use Safari 
> Autofill information, they now require that autofill only works after tapping 
> a point on the screen. I wonder if they added any autofill to the low 
> mobility interfaces.
>  
>  
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 15, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>  
> Hi all,
> I'm always beta testing, so I'm used to ignoring small bugs that get fixed in 
> final builds. Yesterday, though, I updated a client's iPad to iOS 11.3, and 
> the iPad stopped auto-filling the client's Amazon password. I noticed this in 
> the betas on my own devices, but thought nothing of it.
>  
> We do a lot of work with Amazon and Audible, so this is a pretty big 
> annoyance. The option to fill in the password is there, but the password no 
> longer appears automatically as it used to. Now, the client has to find the 
> option to fill it in above the keyboard, while trying not to touch somewhere 
> on the page and thus dismiss the keyboard. Is there any way to get things 
> back to how they were? Thanks for any ideas.
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Issues with the latest version of Cloud on my Mac.

[Jessica Moss]

I’ve just noticed after updated to the latest version of PCloud, that all of a 
sudden, it was no longer asking for my password, and displaying “PCloud has no 
windows,” message when I launched the application.  I’ve gone into the activity 
manager and both quit and force quit the process, and uninstalled and 
reinstalled the application multiple tines along with deleting and emptying 
everything from the trash and starting over with a new instalation, but nothing 
worked.
  Has anyone else had this issue?  I really didn’t want to even have to update 
it, sense nothing was wrong with the version I was using, until Thursday night, 
when I was trying to connect to it, and it was trying to tell me I had no 
interection, which was a lie; I had perfectly good internet connection, because 
I was reading my e-mail while trying to upload stuff to PCloud itself.

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RE: Google drive & sync and backup drive download

[Maria Reyes]

I’m not exactually sure what this is, but I have the same thing on my windows 
laptop. 

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From: Andrew Lamanche
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 5:18 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Subject: Google drive & sync and backup drive download

For a couple of weeks now, as soon as I restart my macwhen Google Drive was 
installed it was called backup and sync. After closing out everything, I’m 
taken to this backup and sync thing and I can’t really navigate through it. 
book pro, I get a message that tells me Google Drive is going away soon, and is 
being replaced by Sync and Backup.  The message contains a link to “learn more’ 
and “download”.  The download button opens up the relevant page in Safari but 
when I press download link, nothing happens.  Has anyone else had this happen 
to them?

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RE: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?

[Maria Reyes]

Hi, that’s the only way I’ve figured out how to do it. If you have Touch ID 
enabled, it should ask you for your fingerprint after you double tap on the 
button. 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Alex Hall
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 3:51 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Subject: Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?

Thanks guys. I wish there would be an alert, asking for a fingerprint to allow 
auto-fill. Short of that, is there an easier way to do this? One of the 
responses in this thread mentioned tapping a point on the screen, but how does 
that work for VoiceOver users? My workaround is to use the prediction above the 
keyboard, but if there's an easier way, I'd love to know about it. Thanks.

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On Apr 15, 2018, at 10:32, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:

Unfortunately this is not a bug but a feature. There were concerns about 
auto-fill inputting information without users knowledge. I guess somebody 
figured out a way to use autofill functionality with JavaScript to cause logins 
or other activities without user knowledge. I did recently read how even a 
carefully crafted CSS could be used to steal passwords and usernames, though I 
would think that autofill would prevent that type of hack.. In any case, in 
addition to allowing webforms on other applications to use Safari Autofill 
information, they now require that autofill only works after tapping a point on 
the screen. I wonder if they added any autofill to the low mobility interfaces.


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



On Apr 15, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:

Hi all,
I'm always beta testing, so I'm used to ignoring small bugs that get fixed in 
final builds. Yesterday, though, I updated a client's iPad to iOS 11.3, and the 
iPad stopped auto-filling the client's Amazon password. I noticed this in the 
betas on my own devices, but thought nothing of it.

We do a lot of work with Amazon and Audible, so this is a pretty big annoyance. 
The option to fill in the password is there, but the password no longer appears 
automatically as it used to. Now, the client has to find the option to fill it 
in above the keyboard, while trying not to touch somewhere on the page and thus 
dismiss the keyboard. Is there any way to get things back to how they were? 
Thanks for any ideas.

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Re: apple watch buy or wait?

[Alex Hall]

If it's free, at least as far as your bank account is concerned, and you use 
the Watch enough, why not go for it? I didn't realize you had a gift card for 
it. If you upgrade now, then want to upgrade again this fall, you can sell the 
Series 3 to offset the cost. You'd essentially get the 3 for free now, then get 
a 4 at a discount thanks to the sale of the 3. That's a good deal any way you 
look at it. You could also hang onto the card until the 4 arrives, but I would 
figure that the extra you'd pay for a 4, if you upgrade at all, is worth it if 
the 3 has better performance and gives you the cellular option you want. Enjoy 
it for the spring and summer, then see what the fall brings. That's what I'd do 
if I were you. I'm only not upgrading because my cost would come from my 
account, but if I had your chance, I'd go for it.

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> On Apr 15, 2018, at 17:45, Sarai Bucciarelli  
> wrote:
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> I definitely will get the celluliar mottle.
> Just not sure. I can affoard it. Got a gift card from Apple.
>  
> Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 
> 
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
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>  
> Your call, and there's no easy answer. Personally, I'm waiting. I have a 
> Series 2, which is the same as yours but with GPS and better waterproofing. 
> I'm sitting out the Series 3 and hoping that a new one comes along this fall. 
> If it does and it's worth it, I'll upgrade then, because my 2 works well 
> enough for me. If the 4 comes along and isn't worth it, I'll get a 3 for a 
> cheaper price than I'd pay now. If no 4 materializes, I'll be sad, but my 2 
> will continue to work. If watchOS 5 makes my current unit unusable, which I 
> doubt, I'll look at upgrading even if the next Apple Watch isn't out this 
> fall.
>  
> Of course, you could upgrade now if you have the spare funds. You'll get a 
> better experience in the months left before the fall, and if you want to 
> upgrade to the 4, you'll get a much better resale price for a 3 than a 1. 
> You'll also get a better idea of the improvement you can expect in a new 
> Apple Watch, which can inform your choice of whether, with its power, you 
> should consider a cellular model.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Apr 15, 2018, at 16:40, Sarai Bucciarelli  > wrote:
> 
>> Just came in to the funds to get an Apple Watch series 3. I have a series 1. 
>> Should I buy now, or wait till September?
>>  
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Re: hulu

[aliFaisal]

Hello,
I see them, however they are all paid and I didn’t want to buy one to find it 
not accessible so I didn’t bother. Is there a name of one that you know is 
accessible so I can search it by name?


> On Apr 15, 2018, at 1:24 PM, jeff `greene  wrote:
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> Hi Yes, if you search for hulu on the mac app store there are 3 or 4
> apps available there. As far as the hulu site the only thing I've done
> is sign up I haven't tried playing anything from the website.
> Jeff
> 
> 
> On 4/15/18, aliFaisal  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I wasn’t aware there was a Hulu app for the mac? If it’s accessible, I will
>> have to try it out. I was mainly talking about for IOS.
>> It’s interesting that you said the website was accessible. In my experience,
>> this wasn’t the case at all. It seemed disorganized, adjusting playback is
>> impossible, or at least I couldn’t find a way, and the entire thing just
>> seemed cluttered.
>> I am going to have to try the Hulu app for the mac. Is it available in the
>> mac app store?
>> Thanks
>> 
>>> On Apr 15, 2018, at 9:29 AM, jeff `greene  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi I downloaded a hulu app from the mac app store and it seems
>>> accessible. But, I keep getting there is a problem signing into hulu
>>> message. Signing up for hulu's free trial was no problem, the website
>>> was very easy to navigate. I'll have to keep experimenting, I have a
>>> 30-day free trial, I'll let you know how it goes!
>>> Jeff
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 4/14/18, Dan Eickmeier  wrote:
 And they seem to have no interest in improving accessibility of it
 either
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Apr 14, 2018, at 5:19 PM, aliFaisal  wrote:
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> I wouldn’t bother, it is completely inaccessible.
> 
> 
>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 4:19 PM, jeff `greene 
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>> Hi, I've been thinking of signing up for hulu's free trial. Just
>> wondering if anybody on the list has tried the hulu app found on the
>> app store? I think the app is like $7.99 or $9.99 so I'd like to find
>> out how accessible it is before buying!
>> thanks Jeff
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RE: apple watch buy or wait?

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

I definitely will get the celluliar mottle.

Just not sure. I can affoard it. Got a gift card from Apple.

 

Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 
  

 

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Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 4:29 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
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Subject: Re: apple watch buy or wait?

 

Your call, and there's no easy answer. Personally, I'm waiting. I have a Series 
2, which is the same as yours but with GPS and better waterproofing. I'm 
sitting out the Series 3 and hoping that a new one comes along this fall. If it 
does and it's worth it, I'll upgrade then, because my 2 works well enough for 
me. If the 4 comes along and isn't worth it, I'll get a 3 for a cheaper price 
than I'd pay now. If no 4 materializes, I'll be sad, but my 2 will continue to 
work. If watchOS 5 makes my current unit unusable, which I doubt, I'll look at 
upgrading even if the next Apple Watch isn't out this fall.

 

Of course, you could upgrade now if you have the spare funds. You'll get a 
better experience in the months left before the fall, and if you want to 
upgrade to the 4, you'll get a much better resale price for a 3 than a 1. 
You'll also get a better idea of the improvement you can expect in a new Apple 
Watch, which can inform your choice of whether, with its power, you should 
consider a cellular model.

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 15, 2018, at 16:40, Sarai Bucciarelli  > wrote:

Just came in to the funds to get an Apple Watch series 3. I have a series 1. 
Should I buy now, or wait till September?

 

Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 
  

 

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Re: apple watch buy or wait?

[Alex Hall]

Your call, and there's no easy answer. Personally, I'm waiting. I have a Series 
2, which is the same as yours but with GPS and better waterproofing. I'm 
sitting out the Series 3 and hoping that a new one comes along this fall. If it 
does and it's worth it, I'll upgrade then, because my 2 works well enough for 
me. If the 4 comes along and isn't worth it, I'll get a 3 for a cheaper price 
than I'd pay now. If no 4 materializes, I'll be sad, but my 2 will continue to 
work. If watchOS 5 makes my current unit unusable, which I doubt, I'll look at 
upgrading even if the next Apple Watch isn't out this fall.

Of course, you could upgrade now if you have the spare funds. You'll get a 
better experience in the months left before the fall, and if you want to 
upgrade to the 4, you'll get a much better resale price for a 3 than a 1. 
You'll also get a better idea of the improvement you can expect in a new Apple 
Watch, which can inform your choice of whether, with its power, you should 
consider a cellular model.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 15, 2018, at 16:40, Sarai Bucciarelli  
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> Just came in to the funds to get an Apple Watch series 3. I have a series 1. 
> Should I buy now, or wait till September?
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Google drive & sync and backup drive download

[Andrew Lamanche]

For a couple of weeks now, as soon as I restart my macbook pro, I get a message 
that tells me Google Drive is going away soon, and is being replaced by Sync 
and Backup.  The message contains a link to “learn more’ and “download”.  The 
download button opens up the relevant page in Safari but when I press download 
link, nothing happens.  Has anyone else had this happen to them?

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iTunes reports busy

[Andrew Lamanche]

Hi,

I’m still on Sierra on macbook pro 2014.  Recently iTunes started playing up.  
When I attempt to open the app, voiceover says “busy” all the time and iTunes 
doesn’t open.  Then I get a message of non-responsive application and have to 
force quit iTunes.  I have to restart my mac to be able to open iTunes.  Is 
there a way of somehow resetting or debugging iTunes?

Many thanks

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Re: Best ebook reader app and question about ibooks.

[Andrew Lamanche]

I think o
> once you interact with the text of a page in iBooks, you invoke the select 
> text feature by pressing vo+enter key. Then continuing to use vo+arrow keys, 
> you start selecting text. You should hear a kind of wooshing sound as you 
> select each word or letter. Then once you’ve selected what you want, press 
> vo+enter again to stop selecting and press command+c to copy selected text to 
> clipboard.  Anne will correct me if I have made a mistake.

Andrew
> Apr 15, 2018, at 7:54 PM, Harry Bell  wrote:
> 
> Oh, please could you explain how to do what you refer to as the “VO-Return 
> method”? I’d really like to be able to use this!
> Thanks
> Harry
> 
>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 18:07, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Andrew,
>> 
>> You can copy text in iBooks on the Mac using the VO-Return method.
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 14 Apr 2018, at 21:57, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>>> 
>>> & is it possible to copy text in iBooks for reference later on?
 On Apr 14, 2018, at 8:36 PM, Brian Howerton  wrote:
 
 On a related note, for research purposes, how does ibooks on the mac do 
 with reading with a braille display connected, this is a particular for 
 finding source material when writing research papers like page numbers ET 
 see. Thanks for any help
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Apr 14, 2018, at 3:33 PM, Leo Bado  wrote:
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> hi everyone,
> 
> Leo here, a new mac user as I told you, using high sierra latest version 
> and I got two questions:
> 
> 
> How do I do for reading contineously on ibooks? I mean without having to 
> forward to tnext pages everytime?
> 
> and secondly,
> 
> is there a good accesible app to read ebooks in my macbook?
> 
> epub, pdf txt, etc.
> 
> 
> thanks for any suggestion or tip.
> 
> 
> 
> Leo Bado
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apple watch buy or wait?

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Just came in to the funds to get an Apple Watch series 3. I have a series 1.
Should I buy now, or wait till September?

 

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Re: Further to earlier mail re playing audio content on my Mac

['andy' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Anne.

Thanks for your offer of help but after three days banging my head, I've 
decided to turn the Mac off and walk away for a spell.

I just seem to be making matters worse, left to my own devices.

I've recently arranged one-to-one training from a blind Apple user who is 
employed by SITE Glasgow, but he will not be able to make an appointment for a 
week or so.

He's only a young guy and fantastic with my Macbook.  He made it look so easy, 
hahaha.

I think I'll just have a break for a spell and perhaps get your help if it 
would not be any bother, later.  I'll hold onto your message.

You know Anne, this is a great list.  I've had offers of help from Newzeland, 
America, London and now France.  Howe's that!


Very best wishes.

Andy.
>From Scotland with Love.

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  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 7:40 PM
  Subject: Re: Further to earlier mail re playing audio content on my Mac


  Hello Andy,


  I’m in France and I have free phone calls to the UK, so if you’d like me to 
help you by phone, e-mail me at:
  a...@anarchie.org.uk
  and give me your fixed phone number and I’ll try to get you online.
  Cheers,


  Anne






On 15 Apr 2018, at 20:17, 'andy' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


Hi Simon, Andrew, others and Steve.

Thankyou all for offering me your help with Skype or facebook or by email, 
in respect to helping me play audio content on my Mac.


One of the big attractions for me to get a Macbook was because I could talk 
with my family in Sydney and Canada by using Facetime.

Unfortunately, I've not progressed far enough to set these facilities up.

The main reason is that I cannot connect to the internet on my Macbook.

Other devices such as my Iphone, my Wife's Dell lap-top and my Window 7 
computer are all coping with the wired or wy fy facilities of my roughter, so 
the problems I am having lay within my Macbook.

Here is what is happening.

When I boot up my Macbook and after the standard introduction, I get the 
following message:

"Application Alert - System Dialogue -  - This Mac cannot connect to Icloud 
 because of a problem with meikle.ai...@btinternet.com". "Open System 
Preferences of Icloud to fix this problem"


So obviously I'm not on-line and before I can go further in my learning 
with music, I really need to be able to resolve this.

Despite several attempts at going into System Preferences, I just end up in 
a maize.

You see, I simply don't have the knowledge or skills to mess around in 
there.

If this makes my position a little clearer, then that's great and I'd 
welcome any advice.

I have however managed to get one-to one help from SITE Glasgow shortly but 
because I'm going to be on holiday for a week, I cannot get this support for a 
few weeks.

I was actually thinking of taking my Macbook to Spain with me on holiday 
and spend most evenings going through, Janet Ingber's wonderful book.

Perhaps I may well yet.  I go on holiday on 21 May for 1 week, so perhaps I 
can resolve this issue befor then.

Very best wishes and thanks again for your on-going support.

Very best wishes.

Andy.
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Re: Adjusting volume of battery low message

[Stacey Robinson]

Jonathan,
Thanks so much for getting back to me and for all your help.
Blessings,

Stacey Robinson

stacey...@bellsouth.net

> On Apr 14, 2018, at 2:08 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> OK, the low battery dialog certainly speaks with this option off. Verified in 
> both El Capitan and High Sierra.
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 1:18 PM, Stacey Robinson > > wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks I really appreciate your help.
>> Blessings,
>> 
>>  Stacey Robinson
>> 
>> stacey...@bellsouth.net 
>>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 12:06 PM, Jonathan Cohn >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> In general anything changed in Macintosh settings is saved immediately. 
>>> There are some exceptions mostly in the network settings where  changing 
>>> one value effects others. In those cases when you close system settings or 
>>> switch to a different tab, A dialog will pop up asking you to confirm the 
>>> change. Of course there are cases where this doesn’t work right because of 
>>> a corrupt preference file, but those cases are rare and getting rarer.
>>> 
>>> In terms of the latter, I generally haven’t had an issue but just to be 
>>> sure, I just unplugged, my El Capitan, and I will get back to you in less 
>>> than 24 hours. (I am not sure if I can use all the battery before leaving 
>>> work.)
>>> Jonathan 
>>>  
 On Apr 12, 2018, at 12:55 PM, Stacey Robinson > wrote:
 
 Jonathan,
 Thanks.
 How do I know the setting was saved?
 Running VO will I still be told when I have a low battery?
 Blessings,
 
Stacey Robinson
 
 stacey...@bellsouth.net 
> On Apr 12, 2018, at 9:22 AM, Jonathan Cohn  > wrote:
> 
> Hello Stacy,
> 
> I believe you are saying that VoiceOver volume is fine, but that when you 
> get an alert like Battery is low it speaks at a different volume and 
> perhaps even a different voice. 
> 
> If indeed this is the case, then I believe you have text announcements of 
> alerts turned on. You shouldn’t need to have this enabled while using 
> VoiceOver. To turn it off, open system preferences to the Dictation and 
> Speech panel. Click the “text to speech” button and then uncheck the 
> "Announce when alerts are displayed”  checkbox.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 7:59 AM, Stacey Robinson > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I’m running el capitan I think.
>> How do I turn the volume down on the voice so when it says battery low 
>> it is not really loud?
>> Mine is way too loud.
>> Please help.
>> Using vo of course.
>> Blessings,
>> 
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Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?

[Alex Hall]

Thanks guys. I wish there would be an alert, asking for a fingerprint to allow 
auto-fill. Short of that, is there an easier way to do this? One of the 
responses in this thread mentioned tapping a point on the screen, but how does 
that work for VoiceOver users? My workaround is to use the prediction above the 
keyboard, but if there's an easier way, I'd love to know about it. Thanks.

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> On Apr 15, 2018, at 10:32, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately this is not a bug but a feature. There were concerns about 
> auto-fill inputting information without users knowledge. I guess somebody 
> figured out a way to use autofill functionality with JavaScript to cause 
> logins or other activities without user knowledge. I did recently read how 
> even a carefully crafted CSS could be used to steal passwords and usernames, 
> though I would think that autofill would prevent that type of hack.. In any 
> case, in addition to allowing webforms on other applications to use Safari 
> Autofill information, they now require that autofill only works after tapping 
> a point on the screen. I wonder if they added any autofill to the low 
> mobility interfaces.
> 
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 15, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Alex Hall > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I'm always beta testing, so I'm used to ignoring small bugs that get fixed 
>> in final builds. Yesterday, though, I updated a client's iPad to iOS 11.3, 
>> and the iPad stopped auto-filling the client's Amazon password. I noticed 
>> this in the betas on my own devices, but thought nothing of it.
>> 
>> We do a lot of work with Amazon and Audible, so this is a pretty big 
>> annoyance. The option to fill in the password is there, but the password no 
>> longer appears automatically as it used to. Now, the client has to find the 
>> option to fill it in above the keyboard, while trying not to touch somewhere 
>> on the page and thus dismiss the keyboard. Is there any way to get things 
>> back to how they were? Thanks for any ideas.
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Re: Best ebook reader app and question about ibooks.

[Harry Bell]

Oh, please could you explain how to do what you refer to as the “VO-Return 
method”? I’d really like to be able to use this!
Thanks
Harry

> On 15 Apr 2018, at 18:07, Anne Robertson  wrote:
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> Hello Andrew,
> 
> You can copy text in iBooks on the Mac using the VO-Return method.
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
>> On 14 Apr 2018, at 21:57, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>> 
>> & is it possible to copy text in iBooks for reference later on?
>>> On Apr 14, 2018, at 8:36 PM, Brian Howerton  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On a related note, for research purposes, how does ibooks on the mac do 
>>> with reading with a braille display connected, this is a particular for 
>>> finding source material when writing research papers like page numbers ET 
>>> see. Thanks for any help
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Apr 14, 2018, at 3:33 PM, Leo Bado  wrote:
 
 hi everyone,
 
 Leo here, a new mac user as I told you, using high sierra latest version 
 and I got two questions:
 
 
 How do I do for reading contineously on ibooks? I mean without having to 
 forward to tnext pages everytime?
 
 and secondly,
 
 is there a good accesible app to read ebooks in my macbook?
 
 epub, pdf txt, etc.
 
 
 thanks for any suggestion or tip.
 
 
 
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Re: Further to earlier mail re playing audio content on my Mac

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Andy,

I’m in France and I have free phone calls to the UK, so if you’d like me to 
help you by phone, e-mail me at:
a...@anarchie.org.uk 
and give me your fixed phone number and I’ll try to get you online.
Cheers,

Anne



> On 15 Apr 2018, at 20:17, 'andy' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Simon, Andrew, others and Steve.
>  
> Thankyou all for offering me your help with Skype or facebook or by email, in 
> respect to helping me play audio content on my Mac.
>  
>  
> One of the big attractions for me to get a Macbook was because I could talk 
> with my family in Sydney and Canada by using Facetime.
>  
> Unfortunately, I've not progressed far enough to set these facilities up.
>  
> The main reason is that I cannot connect to the internet on my Macbook.
>  
> Other devices such as my Iphone, my Wife's Dell lap-top and my Window 7 
> computer are all coping with the wired or wy fy facilities of my roughter, so 
> the problems I am having lay within my Macbook.
>  
> Here is what is happening.
>  
> When I boot up my Macbook and after the standard introduction, I get the 
> following message:
>  
> "Application Alert - System Dialogue -  - This Mac cannot connect to Icloud  
> because of a problem with meikle.ai...@btinternet.com 
> ". "Open System Preferences of Icloud to 
> fix this problem"
>  
>  
> So obviously I'm not on-line and before I can go further in my learning with 
> music, I really need to be able to resolve this.
>  
> Despite several attempts at going into System Preferences, I just end up in a 
> maize.
>  
> You see, I simply don't have the knowledge or skills to mess around in there.
>  
> If this makes my position a little clearer, then that's great and I'd welcome 
> any advice.
>  
> I have however managed to get one-to one help from SITE Glasgow shortly but 
> because I'm going to be on holiday for a week, I cannot get this support for 
> a few weeks.
>  
> I was actually thinking of taking my Macbook to Spain with me on holiday and 
> spend most evenings going through, Janet Ingber's wonderful book.
>  
> Perhaps I may well yet.  I go on holiday on 21 May for 1 week, so perhaps I 
> can resolve this issue befor then.
>  
> Very best wishes and thanks again for your on-going support.
>  
> Very best wishes.
>  
> Andy.
> From Scotland with Love.
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Re: Using Swift to Dev Apps

[Jonathan Cohn]

WRT Swift / Objecttive C 

Both Objective C and Swift are the primary programming languages that Apple 
systems use for development.  Objective C was used on the NeXT platform for 
designing Objects and because of the function call structure of Objective C 
when Apple created Swift it needed to have the ability to have named parameters 
in functions so that those functions would work with the FrameKits that were 
written using Objective C and that there would be no need to completely rewrite 
all of the frameworks. 

Both Objective C and C++ are extensions of the C programming language that was 
used to develop the original core of Unix
Swift is a modern language with the ability to add methods to not only objects 
but generic data structures like enumerations. It also supports "functional" 
programming style where a function is provided as one of the arguments to 
another function with another argument being a list or list like item.

Swift does tend to avoid the try / catch coding practices often used in other 
object oriented programming languages

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Apr 15, 2018, at 12:37 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
> 
> i think Swift goes with Objective C. 
> 
> Sent from my sprint iPhone X!!!
> 
> On Apr 15, 2018, at 10:54 AM, Jonathan Cohn  > wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> As Alex already mentioned, Swift is a programming language. The actuall code 
>> that interfaces with IOS is the "Frameworks" I am sure you have heard of 
>> Webkit and AppKit these are specific frameworks, which are essentially just  
>> libraries of objects, methods and properties that provides  some 
>> functionality. There is even the ability to do ".NET" programming directly 
>> for IOS devices using I believe Visual Studio Code. If you are looking to 
>> develop Applications on Macintosh that better interface with AD products 
>> that is probably the way to go, though I have not read anything.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 14, 2018, at 4:41 AM, Simon Fogarty >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Tim,
>>>  
>>> Thanks and yes this is exactly what I’m looking for.
>>>  
>>> The itunes U wasn’t something I’d have thought of but will check it out.
>>>  
>>> Developing apps for the iPad
>>> Does that need to be done on the iPad or within the IOS platform I guess 
>>> SDK or is there a swift development kit for the Mac OS platform also,
>>> Or is that an x code SDK with swift coding abilities also?
>>>  
>>> I was told there was an emulator for the IOS platform on the mac os app 
>>> store!
>>>  
>>> Ch eers for now ans if you have any other suggestions please let me know.
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>  >> > On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
>>> Sent: Friday, 13 April 2018 2:39 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: Using Swift to Dev Apps
>>>  
>>> Hi Simon,
>>>  
>>> I am supposed to promote these titles in iBooks when doing presentations to 
>>> teachers and such, so I'll suggest them to you as well.  In the iBooks 
>>> Store, type "Swift" into the Search field and check out the results.  My 
>>> recommendation is to first download Swift Playgrounds to your iPad and go 
>>> through the Learn to Code with Swift Playgrounds 1, 2 and 3.  There is also 
>>> an iTunes U course you can take which is found in the iTunes U app on your 
>>> iPad.  Open the iTunes U app, double-tap the Featured tab, activate the 
>>> search field, then type Playground.  There should be the Learn to Code with 
>>> Swift Playground course there and some other titles.  There are App 
>>> Development iBooks as well that will show up when you do the previous 
>>> search in the iBooks Store.  Hopefully, this is the sort of thing that 
>>> you're looking for.
>>>  
>>> Later...
>>>  
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>  
>>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 04:22, Simon Fogarty >> > wrote:
>>>  
>>> Hi Listers,
>>> 
>>> I've got a couple of things I'd like to develop in the way of apps for IOS 
>>> and wondered if anyone had information on the best way to get into app 
>>> development?
>>> 
>>> I've just purchased myself a new iPad Pro 10.5 inch 256GB device which will 
>>> be somewhat easier to carry around and work on.
>>> 
>>> But need to start looking at swift development 
>>> Another question is 
>>> Can you develop apps on the iPad or do you have to do it on / via Mac OS 
>>> and an SDK 
>>> 
>>> Cheers.
>>> 
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Further to earlier mail re playing audio content on my Mac

['andy' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Simon, Andrew, others and Steve.

Thankyou all for offering me your help with Skype or facebook or by email, in 
respect to helping me play audio content on my Mac.


One of the big attractions for me to get a Macbook was because I could talk 
with my family in Sydney and Canada by using Facetime.

Unfortunately, I've not progressed far enough to set these facilities up.

The main reason is that I cannot connect to the internet on my Macbook.

Other devices such as my Iphone, my Wife's Dell lap-top and my Window 7 
computer are all coping with the wired or wy fy facilities of my roughter, so 
the problems I am having lay within my Macbook.

Here is what is happening.

When I boot up my Macbook and after the standard introduction, I get the 
following message:

"Application Alert - System Dialogue -  - This Mac cannot connect to Icloud  
because of a problem with meikle.ai...@btinternet.com". "Open System 
Preferences of Icloud to fix this problem"


So obviously I'm not on-line and before I can go further in my learning with 
music, I really need to be able to resolve this.

Despite several attempts at going into System Preferences, I just end up in a 
maize.

You see, I simply don't have the knowledge or skills to mess around in there.

If this makes my position a little clearer, then that's great and I'd welcome 
any advice.

I have however managed to get one-to one help from SITE Glasgow shortly but 
because I'm going to be on holiday for a week, I cannot get this support for a 
few weeks.

I was actually thinking of taking my Macbook to Spain with me on holiday and 
spend most evenings going through, Janet Ingber's wonderful book.

Perhaps I may well yet.  I go on holiday on 21 May for 1 week, so perhaps I can 
resolve this issue befor then.

Very best wishes and thanks again for your on-going support.

Very best wishes.

Andy.
>From Scotland with Love.

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Re: hulu

[jeff `greene]

Hi Yes, if you search for hulu on the mac app store there are 3 or 4
apps available there. As far as the hulu site the only thing I've done
is sign up I haven't tried playing anything from the website.
Jeff


On 4/15/18, aliFaisal  wrote:
> Hi,
> I wasn’t aware there was a Hulu app for the mac? If it’s accessible, I will
> have to try it out. I was mainly talking about for IOS.
> It’s interesting that you said the website was accessible. In my experience,
> this wasn’t the case at all. It seemed disorganized, adjusting playback is
> impossible, or at least I couldn’t find a way, and the entire thing just
> seemed cluttered.
> I am going to have to try the Hulu app for the mac. Is it available in the
> mac app store?
> Thanks
>
>> On Apr 15, 2018, at 9:29 AM, jeff `greene  wrote:
>>
>> Hi I downloaded a hulu app from the mac app store and it seems
>> accessible. But, I keep getting there is a problem signing into hulu
>> message. Signing up for hulu's free trial was no problem, the website
>> was very easy to navigate. I'll have to keep experimenting, I have a
>> 30-day free trial, I'll let you know how it goes!
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>> On 4/14/18, Dan Eickmeier  wrote:
>>> And they seem to have no interest in improving accessibility of it
>>> either
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Apr 14, 2018, at 5:19 PM, aliFaisal  wrote:

 I wouldn’t bother, it is completely inaccessible.


> On Apr 13, 2018, at 4:19 PM, jeff `greene 
> wrote:
>
> Hi, I've been thinking of signing up for hulu's free trial. Just
> wondering if anybody on the list has tried the hulu app found on the
> app store? I think the app is like $7.99 or $9.99 so I'd like to find
> out how accessible it is before buying!
> thanks Jeff
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Re: Best ebook reader app and question about ibooks.

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Andrew,

You can copy text in iBooks on the Mac using the VO-Return method.
Cheers,

Anne



> On 14 Apr 2018, at 21:57, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> & is it possible to copy text in iBooks for reference later on?
>> On Apr 14, 2018, at 8:36 PM, Brian Howerton  wrote:
>> 
>> On a related note, for research purposes, how does ibooks on the mac do with 
>> reading with a braille display connected, this is a particular for finding 
>> source material when writing research papers like page numbers ET see. 
>> Thanks for any help
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 14, 2018, at 3:33 PM, Leo Bado  wrote:
>>> 
>>> hi everyone,
>>> 
>>> Leo here, a new mac user as I told you, using high sierra latest version 
>>> and I got two questions:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> How do I do for reading contineously on ibooks? I mean without having to 
>>> forward to tnext pages everytime?
>>> 
>>> and secondly,
>>> 
>>> is there a good accesible app to read ebooks in my macbook?
>>> 
>>> epub, pdf txt, etc.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> thanks for any suggestion or tip.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Leo Bado
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Re: Best ebook reader app and question about ibooks.

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Leo,

I know of no way to get iBooks to read continuously on the Mac. I rarely use 
iBooks as I find it cumbersome and I buy my ebooks elsewhere.
I use Adobe Digital Editions to read ebooks on my Mac, but you still have to 
press Right Arrow to turn the page. you can reduce the frequency of this by 
making the font as small as possible.
Adobe Digital Editions is easy to use and allows you to read a number of 
protected formats. I mostly read books from Kobo and usually on my iPhone.
You can copy text from Adobe Digital Editions a page at a time by using the VO 
command Copy last spoken phrase to the clipboard (VO-Shift-c).
Cheers,

Anne



> On 14 Apr 2018, at 21:33, Leo Bado  wrote:
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> hi everyone,
> 
> Leo here, a new mac user as I told you, using high sierra latest version and 
> I got two questions:
> 
> 
> How do I do for reading contineously on ibooks? I mean without having to 
> forward to tnext pages everytime?
> 
> and secondly,
> 
> is there a good accesible app to read ebooks in my macbook?
> 
> epub, pdf txt, etc.
> 
> 
> thanks for any suggestion or tip.
> 
> 
> 
> Leo Bado
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Re: hulu

[aliFaisal]

Hi,
I wasn’t aware there was a Hulu app for the mac? If it’s accessible, I will 
have to try it out. I was mainly talking about for IOS.
It’s interesting that you said the website was accessible. In my experience, 
this wasn’t the case at all. It seemed disorganized, adjusting playback is 
impossible, or at least I couldn’t find a way, and the entire thing just seemed 
cluttered.
I am going to have to try the Hulu app for the mac. Is it available in the mac 
app store?
Thanks

> On Apr 15, 2018, at 9:29 AM, jeff `greene  wrote:
> 
> Hi I downloaded a hulu app from the mac app store and it seems
> accessible. But, I keep getting there is a problem signing into hulu
> message. Signing up for hulu's free trial was no problem, the website
> was very easy to navigate. I'll have to keep experimenting, I have a
> 30-day free trial, I'll let you know how it goes!
> Jeff
> 
> 
> On 4/14/18, Dan Eickmeier  wrote:
>> And they seem to have no interest in improving accessibility of it either
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 14, 2018, at 5:19 PM, aliFaisal  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I wouldn’t bother, it is completely inaccessible.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Apr 13, 2018, at 4:19 PM, jeff `greene  wrote:
 
 Hi, I've been thinking of signing up for hulu's free trial. Just
 wondering if anybody on the list has tried the hulu app found on the
 app store? I think the app is like $7.99 or $9.99 so I'd like to find
 out how accessible it is before buying!
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Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?

[Maria Reyes]

I think when you tap the autofill button you will be asked for your touch/Face 
ID. I store my passwords in 1Password, so I haven't used autofill. 

Sent from my sprint iPhone X!!!

> On Apr 15, 2018, at 10:32 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately this is not a bug but a feature. There were concerns about 
> auto-fill inputting information without users knowledge. I guess somebody 
> figured out a way to use autofill functionality with JavaScript to cause 
> logins or other activities without user knowledge. I did recently read how 
> even a carefully crafted CSS could be used to steal passwords and usernames, 
> though I would think that autofill would prevent that type of hack.. In any 
> case, in addition to allowing webforms on other applications to use Safari 
> Autofill information, they now require that autofill only works after tapping 
> a point on the screen. I wonder if they added any autofill to the low 
> mobility interfaces.
> 
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 15, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I'm always beta testing, so I'm used to ignoring small bugs that get fixed 
>> in final builds. Yesterday, though, I updated a client's iPad to iOS 11.3, 
>> and the iPad stopped auto-filling the client's Amazon password. I noticed 
>> this in the betas on my own devices, but thought nothing of it.
>> 
>> We do a lot of work with Amazon and Audible, so this is a pretty big 
>> annoyance. The option to fill in the password is there, but the password no 
>> longer appears automatically as it used to. Now, the client has to find the 
>> option to fill it in above the keyboard, while trying not to touch somewhere 
>> on the page and thus dismiss the keyboard. Is there any way to get things 
>> back to how they were? Thanks for any ideas.
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Re: Using Swift to Dev Apps

[Maria Reyes]

i think Swift goes with Objective C. 

Sent from my sprint iPhone X!!!

> On Apr 15, 2018, at 10:54 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
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> Hello,
> 
> As Alex already mentioned, Swift is a programming language. The actuall code 
> that interfaces with IOS is the "Frameworks" I am sure you have heard of 
> Webkit and AppKit these are specific frameworks, which are essentially just  
> libraries of objects, methods and properties that provides  some 
> functionality. There is even the ability to do ".NET" programming directly 
> for IOS devices using I believe Visual Studio Code. If you are looking to 
> develop Applications on Macintosh that better interface with AD products that 
> is probably the way to go, though I have not read anything.
> 
> HTH,
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 14, 2018, at 4:41 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim,
>>  
>> Thanks and yes this is exactly what I’m looking for.
>>  
>> The itunes U wasn’t something I’d have thought of but will check it out.
>>  
>> Developing apps for the iPad
>> Does that need to be done on the iPad or within the IOS platform I guess SDK 
>> or is there a swift development kit for the Mac OS platform also,
>> Or is that an x code SDK with swift coding abilities also?
>>  
>> I was told there was an emulator for the IOS platform on the mac os app 
>> store!
>>  
>> Ch eers for now ans if you have any other suggestions please let me know.
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
>> Sent: Friday, 13 April 2018 2:39 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Using Swift to Dev Apps
>>  
>> Hi Simon,
>>  
>> I am supposed to promote these titles in iBooks when doing presentations to 
>> teachers and such, so I'll suggest them to you as well.  In the iBooks 
>> Store, type "Swift" into the Search field and check out the results.  My 
>> recommendation is to first download Swift Playgrounds to your iPad and go 
>> through the Learn to Code with Swift Playgrounds 1, 2 and 3.  There is also 
>> an iTunes U course you can take which is found in the iTunes U app on your 
>> iPad.  Open the iTunes U app, double-tap the Featured tab, activate the 
>> search field, then type Playground.  There should be the Learn to Code with 
>> Swift Playground course there and some other titles.  There are App 
>> Development iBooks as well that will show up when you do the previous search 
>> in the iBooks Store.  Hopefully, this is the sort of thing that you're 
>> looking for.
>>  
>> Later...
>>  
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>  
>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 04:22, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>  
>> Hi Listers,
>> 
>> I've got a couple of things I'd like to develop in the way of apps for IOS 
>> and wondered if anyone had information on the best way to get into app 
>> development?
>> 
>> I've just purchased myself a new iPad Pro 10.5 inch 256GB device which will 
>> be somewhat easier to carry around and work on.
>> 
>> But need to start looking at swift development 
>> Another question is 
>> Can you develop apps on the iPad or do you have to do it on / via Mac OS and 
>> an SDK 
>> 
>> Cheers.
>> 
>> Simon F
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Re: Using Swift to Dev Apps

[Jonathan Cohn]

Hello,

As Alex already mentioned, Swift is a programming language. The actuall code 
that interfaces with IOS is the "Frameworks" I am sure you have heard of Webkit 
and AppKit these are specific frameworks, which are essentially just  libraries 
of objects, methods and properties that provides  some functionality. There is 
even the ability to do ".NET" programming directly for IOS devices using I 
believe Visual Studio Code. If you are looking to develop Applications on 
Macintosh that better interface with AD products that is probably the way to 
go, though I have not read anything.

HTH,
Jonathan Cohn



> On Apr 14, 2018, at 4:41 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
>  
> Thanks and yes this is exactly what I’m looking for.
>  
> The itunes U wasn’t something I’d have thought of but will check it out.
>  
> Developing apps for the iPad
> Does that need to be done on the iPad or within the IOS platform I guess SDK 
> or is there a swift development kit for the Mac OS platform also,
> Or is that an x code SDK with swift coding abilities also?
>  
> I was told there was an emulator for the IOS platform on the mac os app store!
>  
> Ch eers for now ans if you have any other suggestions please let me know.
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>   > On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
> Sent: Friday, 13 April 2018 2:39 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Using Swift to Dev Apps
>  
> Hi Simon,
>  
> I am supposed to promote these titles in iBooks when doing presentations to 
> teachers and such, so I'll suggest them to you as well.  In the iBooks Store, 
> type "Swift" into the Search field and check out the results.  My 
> recommendation is to first download Swift Playgrounds to your iPad and go 
> through the Learn to Code with Swift Playgrounds 1, 2 and 3.  There is also 
> an iTunes U course you can take which is found in the iTunes U app on your 
> iPad.  Open the iTunes U app, double-tap the Featured tab, activate the 
> search field, then type Playground.  There should be the Learn to Code with 
> Swift Playground course there and some other titles.  There are App 
> Development iBooks as well that will show up when you do the previous search 
> in the iBooks Store.  Hopefully, this is the sort of thing that you're 
> looking for.
>  
> Later...
>  
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
> On Apr 12, 2018, at 04:22, Simon Fogarty  > wrote:
>  
> Hi Listers,
> 
> I've got a couple of things I'd like to develop in the way of apps for IOS 
> and wondered if anyone had information on the best way to get into app 
> development?
> 
> I've just purchased myself a new iPad Pro 10.5 inch 256GB device which will 
> be somewhat easier to carry around and work on.
> 
> But need to start looking at swift development 
> Another question is 
> Can you develop apps on the iPad or do you have to do it on / via Mac OS and 
> an SDK 
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> Simon F
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Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?

[Jonathan Cohn]

Unfortunately this is not a bug but a feature. There were concerns about 
auto-fill inputting information without users knowledge. I guess somebody 
figured out a way to use autofill functionality with JavaScript to cause logins 
or other activities without user knowledge. I did recently read how even a 
carefully crafted CSS could be used to steal passwords and usernames, though I 
would think that autofill would prevent that type of hack.. In any case, in 
addition to allowing webforms on other applications to use Safari Autofill 
information, they now require that autofill only works after tapping a point on 
the screen. I wonder if they added any autofill to the low mobility interfaces.


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Apr 15, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I'm always beta testing, so I'm used to ignoring small bugs that get fixed in 
> final builds. Yesterday, though, I updated a client's iPad to iOS 11.3, and 
> the iPad stopped auto-filling the client's Amazon password. I noticed this in 
> the betas on my own devices, but thought nothing of it.
> 
> We do a lot of work with Amazon and Audible, so this is a pretty big 
> annoyance. The option to fill in the password is there, but the password no 
> longer appears automatically as it used to. Now, the client has to find the 
> option to fill it in above the keyboard, while trying not to touch somewhere 
> on the page and thus dismiss the keyboard. Is there any way to get things 
> back to how they were? Thanks for any ideas.
> 
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Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?

[Jonathan Cohn]

There was information in the release notes indicating that autofill was not as 
auto as before. I have not personally played much with autofill, and not at all 
since upgrading.

>From one google search…
iOS 11.3 requires Safari users to tap in web pages to AutoFill their username 
and password. This is extra work for you, but it's also more secure. Another 
change adds warnings when entering private information onto non-encrypted pages.


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Apr 15, 2018, at 9:23 AM, Danny Keys  wrote:
> 
>> hello,
> 
> It sure doesn't work for me. After I updated to 11.3, all of my fields that 
> have passwords and quit working. When I go into settings and check passwords 
> they're all there it's still doesn't work.
> 
> I called Apple accessibility about this they were unable to help me with it.
> 
> Oh well that's what updates do.
> 
> 
>> 
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Re: Adjusting volume of battery low message

[Jonathan Cohn]

OK, the low battery dialog certainly speaks with this option off. Verified in 
both El Capitan and High Sierra.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Apr 12, 2018, at 1:18 PM, Stacey Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Thanks I really appreciate your help.
> Blessings,
> 
>   Stacey Robinson
> 
> stacey...@bellsouth.net 
>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 12:06 PM, Jonathan Cohn > > wrote:
>> 
>> In general anything changed in Macintosh settings is saved immediately. 
>> There are some exceptions mostly in the network settings where  changing one 
>> value effects others. In those cases when you close system settings or 
>> switch to a different tab, A dialog will pop up asking you to confirm the 
>> change. Of course there are cases where this doesn’t work right because of a 
>> corrupt preference file, but those cases are rare and getting rarer.
>> 
>> In terms of the latter, I generally haven’t had an issue but just to be 
>> sure, I just unplugged, my El Capitan, and I will get back to you in less 
>> than 24 hours. (I am not sure if I can use all the battery before leaving 
>> work.)
>> Jonathan 
>>  
>>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 12:55 PM, Stacey Robinson >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Jonathan,
>>> Thanks.
>>> How do I know the setting was saved?
>>> Running VO will I still be told when I have a low battery?
>>> Blessings,
>>> 
>>> Stacey Robinson
>>> 
>>> stacey...@bellsouth.net 
 On Apr 12, 2018, at 9:22 AM, Jonathan Cohn > wrote:
 
 Hello Stacy,
 
 I believe you are saying that VoiceOver volume is fine, but that when you 
 get an alert like Battery is low it speaks at a different volume and 
 perhaps even a different voice. 
 
 If indeed this is the case, then I believe you have text announcements of 
 alerts turned on. You shouldn’t need to have this enabled while using 
 VoiceOver. To turn it off, open system preferences to the Dictation and 
 Speech panel. Click the “text to speech” button and then uncheck the 
 "Announce when alerts are displayed”  checkbox.
 
 HTH,
 
 Jonathan Cohn
> On Apr 12, 2018, at 7:59 AM, Stacey Robinson  > wrote:
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> Hi all,
> I’m running el capitan I think.
> How do I turn the volume down on the voice so when it says battery low it 
> is not really loud?
> Mine is way too loud.
> Please help.
> Using vo of course.
> Blessings,
> 
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Re: hulu

[jeff `greene]

Hi I downloaded a hulu app from the mac app store and it seems
accessible. But, I keep getting there is a problem signing into hulu
message. Signing up for hulu's free trial was no problem, the website
was very easy to navigate. I'll have to keep experimenting, I have a
30-day free trial, I'll let you know how it goes!
Jeff


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> And they seem to have no interest in improving accessibility of it either
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>> On Apr 14, 2018, at 5:19 PM, aliFaisal  wrote:
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>> I wouldn’t bother, it is completely inaccessible.
>>
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>>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 4:19 PM, jeff `greene  wrote:
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>>> Hi, I've been thinking of signing up for hulu's free trial. Just
>>> wondering if anybody on the list has tried the hulu app found on the
>>> app store? I think the app is like $7.99 or $9.99 so I'd like to find
>>> out how accessible it is before buying!
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Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?

[Danny Keys]

> hello,

It sure doesn't work for me. After I updated to 11.3, all of my fields that 
have passwords and quit working. When I go into settings and check passwords 
they're all there it's still doesn't work.

I called Apple accessibility about this they were unable to help me with it.

Oh well that's what updates do.


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Re: Using Swift to Dev Apps

[Ryan Mann]

I just want to point out that there is actually a way to develop IOS apps 
without using a Mac.  It is just not using the swift programming language.  
Check out http://phonegap.com.





> On Apr 14, 2018, at 7:00 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Let me try to explain some key concepts.
> 
> * If you make an iOS app, you're automatically making one for iPhone, iPad, 
> and iPod Touch. You'll use screen size to determine your layout, and other 
> methods to figure out if the device your app is on supports things like 
> vibration. Some people use one app for both iPhone and iPad, others make two 
> apps, but the code behind any iOS project will run equally well on either 
> one. Look into size classes for more on the modern way of doing interface 
> tweaks to fid the screen size. This is important nowadays, as landscape 
> iPhone Plus devices can support different interfaces than landscape iPhones 
> that are smaller. The main point is that you make iOS apps, not iPad or iPod 
> apps specifically.
> 
> * Xcode lets you make apps for all Apple products, from iPhone to iPad to 
> Apple Watch to Apple TV to Mac. You can't develop apps on anything other than 
> a Mac, at least not yet. Apple may eventually release Xcode for iPad, but 
> that's just a rumor that has been around for a few years.
> 
> * To test devices, you can run simulators from within Xcode. You can simulate 
> an iPhone SE up through a 12.9-inch iPad Pro. The bad news is that these 
> simulators don't work well with VO on the Mac, and I've not found a way to 
> get a simulated iOS device to run the iOS version of VoiceOver. Best to 
> deploy to a real device if possible. That said, if you have sighted help, it 
> can be good to run on a simulator just to take care of obvious problems 
> before you bother plugging in your iPad.
> 
> * Swift is a programming language, like C++ or Python. It has nothing to do 
> with app development. NVDA (the Windows screen reader) is written in Python, 
> while your favorite audio game on Windows is written in Visual Basic or C++. 
> The language has no bearing on the program that results. It's just that Apple 
> created Swift and it's one of the languages supported by Xcode. Swift as a 
> language has nothing to do with iOS or macOS programming. It's more that 
> Apple uses Swift to let people create apps. This distinction may not make a 
> lot of sense, and you can safely ignore it if that's the case.
> 
> I hope all this makes some sense.
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> 
>> On Apr 14, 2018, at 04:41, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim,
>>  
>> Thanks and yes this is exactly what I’m looking for.
>>  
>> The itunes U wasn’t something I’d have thought of but will check it out.
>>  
>> Developing apps for the iPad
>> Does that need to be done on the iPad or within the IOS platform I guess SDK 
>> or is there a swift development kit for the Mac OS platform also,
>> Or is that an x code SDK with swift coding abilities also?
>>  
>> I was told there was an emulator for the IOS platform on the mac os app 
>> store!
>>  
>> Ch eers for now ans if you have any other suggestions please let me know.
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
>> Sent: Friday, 13 April 2018 2:39 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Using Swift to Dev Apps
>>  
>> Hi Simon,
>>  
>> I am supposed to promote these titles in iBooks when doing presentations to 
>> teachers and such, so I'll suggest them to you as well.  In the iBooks 
>> Store, type "Swift" into the Search field and check out the results.  My 
>> recommendation is to first download Swift Playgrounds to your iPad and go 
>> through the Learn to Code with Swift Playgrounds 1, 2 and 3.  There is also 
>> an iTunes U course you can take which is found in the iTunes U app on your 
>> iPad.  Open the iTunes U app, double-tap the Featured tab, activate the 
>> search field, then type Playground.  There should be the Learn to Code with 
>> Swift Playground course there and some other titles.  There are App 
>> Development iBooks as well that will show up when you do the previous search 
>> in the iBooks Store.  Hopefully, this is the sort of thing that you're 
>> looking for.
>>  
>> Later...
>>  
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>  
>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 04:22, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>  
>> Hi Listers,
>> 
>> I've got a couple of things I'd like to develop in the way of apps for IOS 
>> and wondered if anyone had information on the best way to get into app 
>> development?
>> 
>> I've just purchased myself a new iPad Pro 10.5 inch 256GB device which will 
>> be somewhat easier to carry around and work on.
>> 
>> But need to start looking at swift development 
>> Another question is 
>> Can you develop apps on the iPad or do you have to do it on / via Mac OS and 
>> an SDK 
>> 
>> Cheers.
>> 
>> Simon F
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Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?

[Alex Hall]

Hi all,
I'm always beta testing, so I'm used to ignoring small bugs that get fixed in 
final builds. Yesterday, though, I updated a client's iPad to iOS 11.3, and the 
iPad stopped auto-filling the client's Amazon password. I noticed this in the 
betas on my own devices, but thought nothing of it.

We do a lot of work with Amazon and Audible, so this is a pretty big annoyance. 
The option to fill in the password is there, but the password no longer appears 
automatically as it used to. Now, the client has to find the option to fill it 
in above the keyboard, while trying not to touch somewhere on the page and thus 
dismiss the keyboard. Is there any way to get things back to how they were? 
Thanks for any ideas.

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