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>> 16 apr. 2024 kl. 16:30 skrev Phil Halton :
>>
>> I am running the latest Sonoma on a MacBook Pro M3. Lately, I find voiceover
>> needing to be rebooted because it stops speaking. I don’t know if it has
>> been shut off or
I am running the latest Sonoma on a MacBook Pro M3. Lately, I find voiceover
needing to be rebooted because it stops speaking. I don’t know if it has been
shut off or somehow muted itself but I can get no speech from any action. So,
the solution has been to reboot voiceover with the command
ow so that it ignores the
> voiceover cursor.
> Hopefully this will correct your issue with the menu bar.
>
> HDH.
>
> - Brad -
>
> On Apr 9, 2024, at 10:12, Phil Halton wrote:
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> A few weeks back I upgraded Sonoma to the latest version, 14.4 or something
> like th
A few weeks back I upgraded Sonoma to the latest version, 14.4 or something
like that. In order to take advantage of the new rogue amoeba installations.
After that upgrade I cannot navigate menu bars on any of my apps as expected.
That is opening up the menu with VO M puts me at the Apple
and continue.
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> On Mar 29, 2024, at 6:58 PM, Phil Halton wrote:
>
> OK, I upgraded my Sonoma to 14.4.1 in order to take advantage of the new
> installation for rogue amoeba apps, specifically the Piezo app. I got stuck
> at the permissions window of the installati
OK, I upgraded my Sonoma to 14.4.1 in order to take advantage of the new
installation for rogue amoeba apps, specifically the Piezo app. I got stuck at
the permissions window of the installation. It required that I give permissions
for system audio access and optionally microphone access but
I installed chrome on my MacBook Pro today and made the mistake of turning on
the screen reader during set up. It conflicts with voiceover, giving me double
voices etc. How can I shut off the screen reader in Google’s chrome browser on
my MacBook Pro. I think I heard something about control alt
that fourth button from the left again to enable English plus beep.Please let us know if these directions do not assist.BestMichael - KJ7PAZPayown Media, LLCOn Mar 9, 2024, at 11:52 AM, Phil Halton wrote:I saw this new recorder from Zoom in the 80 guys bulletin and so I picked one up and it just
I saw this new recorder from Zoom in the 80 guys bulletin and so I picked one
up and it just arrived. Unfortunately the manuals are crap. Although, I think I
can suss out the various buttons and such. The problem is knowing how to
operate the menu system. I think you first have to go in and
Your message is unclear. What do you mean you’re unable to WIT command Our.
What is WIT supposed to mean?. in order to get into recovery mode, you turn off
your Mac. Then, you power on the Mac and immediately hold down the command and
our keys for a while, a good while, and then release. You
I currently make some use of Amadeus Pro, but I want to look around for a
similar multitrack audio recorder/editor program. Is anyone have experience
with reaper on the Mac? How about audacity? I’m looking for simple to use and
highly accessible without a huge learning curve. Thanks for any
It sounds like you’re getting the wooshing sound that you hear when you activate Mission control. Try pressing control up arrow or control down arrow and see if that’s the sound because control up arrow is the default Sonoma keystroke to activate mission control. If you are clicking a mouse and
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I'm trying to revive myold iMac from around 2011 or so, I'm pretty sure it was
running El Capitan. I'm locked out and can't log in because of a password logon
failure even though the same password always worked and is the same that I've
used on every mac i ever had.
No matter, Now I'm trying
Bingo!
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> On Jan 9, 2024, at 11:49 PM, 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries
> wrote:
>
> But the problem of back-to-back requests isn't really that Siri doesn't go
> away. It's that having made your request, you can't really review the output
> because while Siri is
Voice Memos, or even quick time video, are built-in to the OS and are good
options for Just recording some raw audio files for later processing. I also
also use Amadeus pro and it is a great app but there’s a bit of a learning
curve and it ain’t free, though not too expensive, so you might
respond, "You're Welcome", and the SiriFollow-Up
> feature is dismissed.
>
> - Brad -
>
> On Jan 7, 2024, at 12:22, Phil Halton wrote:
>
> The workaround according to Apple Accessibility to get Siri to stop
> listening for additional requests as though you’re havi
The workaround according to Apple Accessibility to get Siri to stop listening
for additional requests as though you’re having a fluid conversation with her
is to turn on the “type to Siri“ feature in Siri settings. Then, using hey Siri
you will only get a single interaction with Siri and not a
unday, December 31, 2023 03:16 PM
>> To: via MacVisionaries
>> Subject: Re: links in text messages
>>
>> the problem I often have with this is that even though I have links in my
>> rotor, they don't show up when I need them.
>>>> On Dec 30, 2023, at
Janina, which app library are you talking about? Personally I don’t know of any
“app” library on the iPhone. I know that various apps have their own storage
areas for example stream writer has a library app of its own but you’re not
saying which app. Please elaborate.
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Set your rotor to “link“ then flick up or down to the desired link and double
tap. I had problems with this one at first too
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> wrote:
>
> What's the way to click a hyperlink that arrives in a text message
Well, I now have Microsoft copilot installed on my dock on the Mac and so I
thought I’d ask it a question. I asked her to write me a song about old blind
banjo players and I was told that it couldn’t do that because the material was
inappropriate. I was a little shocked because I am an old
indows for ARM processors, the company has been contacted by several
>> voiceover users about the lack of accessibility and it appears that the
>> company has no plans to address it.
>>
>>>> On Dec 29, 2023, at 10:48 AM, 'Matt Turner' via MacVisionaries
>>>> wrote:
he Air. There's an old saying about software expanding to
take advantage of newer, more powerful hardware. I've always thought
those fans are illustrating that old principle.
Best,
Janina
Phil Halton writes:
> I have an older MacBook Air from 2013 that is exhibiting a heck of a lot of fan activity t
'Matt Turner' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:to set it up, I have to use VOCR to read the screen.My VO key is caps lock key.it’s like the VM doesn’t see the key.On Dec 29, 2023, at 11:44 AM, Phil Halton <philh...@gmail.com> wrote:Are you saying that parallels
I have an older MacBook Air from 2013 that is exhibiting a heck of a lot of fan
activity these days. I upgraded to a MacBook Pro with the M3 Pro chip and I’m
very happy with it but I’m trying to put some use to the old air. Last night I
reinstalled the operating system after doing some first
Are you saying that parallels is now accessible at least to some degree? I thought it was a complete black box for Mac voiceover usersSent from my IPhoneOn Dec 29, 2023, at 11:14 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:As strange as it seems, telling VoiceOver to use the CAPSLOCK key and keeping VoiceOver
.
On Dec 27, 2023, at 2:15 PM, Phil Halton wrote:
I’ve been hearing about people using Linux on this list for quite some time and I never really cared until now. I’m wondering, how are people using Lennox from an accessibility standpoint, what screen reader is out there for use. I did my college
I’ve been hearing about people using Linux on this list for quite some time and
I never really cared until now. I’m wondering, how are people using Lennox from
an accessibility standpoint, what screen reader is out there for use. I did my
college independent studies using Lennox And so I’m not
Yes, I’ve been experiencing exactly this for a while now in numbers. My workaround has been too stop interacting with the table and re-interact, doing this several times until I can interact and move the cursor down. Usually when I try to interact with certain tables I get that bong sound when I
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> On Dec 16, 2023, at 2:35 PM, Jürgen Fleger wrote:
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> Press VO + CMD + Shift + right or left Arrow until you'll reach Volume. Then
> press up or down Arrow while you're still holding the keys in your left hand.
>
>
>> Am 16.12.2023 um 1
ing app
>>
>> Hi,
>> not free but very accessible: Downey 4 on the Mac and Tubecast for iPhone.
>>
>>
>>>> Am 16.12.2023 um 19:58 schrieb Phil Halton :
>>>
>>> I’ve got some YouTube videos from an online seminar that I need to grab the
That’s how I just did it with my new MacBook Pro, as Brad says, just open the
lid and it will power up. Then voiceover will eventually start up on its own,
if not press the function key plus the command key plus the FN five key and it
will bring it up. Smooth sailing from there.
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I’ve got some YouTube videos from an online seminar that I need to grab the
audio from. Haven’t done this in a long time and don’t know what’s out there
for software. Is there a good easy and free YouTube audio grabber for either
Mac or iOS that you can recommend?
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Is there anyway to differentiate between system media volume and voiceover
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but in order to get the volume up high enough I have to blast my ears out with
voiceover.
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Sometimes I do use "voice control" but I find that some of the word
>> predictions because of using AI can be a bit tricky. The solution I'm using
>> seems to be working well for the most part. Unfortunately, no dictation
>> solution is going to be 100% accurate.
>> Sincere
and tap control again.
>
>
>
>> On Dec 6, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Phil Halton wrote:
>>
>> Is anyone successfully using voice control features to work with documents,
>> creating, editing etc.? I can see how it might have possibilities although
>> it’s for certa
Is anyone successfully using voice control features to work with documents,
creating, editing etc.? I can see how it might have possibilities although it’s
for certain that you have to wear headphones or take some precautions so that
voiceover output isn’t bled in and mistaken as your commands
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a AIR with M2 and a Pro with M3 would better be placed in shared memory or additional storage.
Best wishes,Jonathan Cohn
On Dec 2, 2023, at 8:35 AM, Phil Halton <philh...@gmail.com> wrote:Jonathan, thanks for answering. Do you have anything more substantial to say about the reasons w
tracing or a few more cores in the processor.But then I’m still running a 2015 Mac Book Air 11.
Best wishes,Jonathan Cohn
On Dec 1, 2023, at 12:21 PM, Phil Halton <philh...@gmail.com> wrote:I currently use a MacBook Air 2013 and maybe it's the season, but I'm thinking of upgrading. I'm l
I currently use a MacBook Air 2013 and maybe it's the season, but I'm thinking
of upgrading. I'm looking at a base model MacBookPro 14 inch with the m3 chip.
I'm not a power user anymore so I'm thinking this will do fine.
I'm just wondering about a few things such as, is the M2 chip in the 15
OK, in iOS 17 it seems they’ve changed the behavior of the side button for use
with Siri. It used to be that you would hold the button and wait for the sound
and then speak to Siri. You would have to do this for each request of Siri.
Now, it seems that you press the button and you don’t get the
Since upgrading to iOS 17 I’m having a lot of trouble with the one finger
double tap gesture. It’s really overly sensitive and precise now and often my
old double tap gesture does not work. Is anyone else noticing this? I was
looking for some setting where you can set the sensitivity level but
If I remember from my time working with QuickTime, the stop button is on
labeled. It should be in the place where the record button was, so, if you
don’t move around after pressing record, then just pressing enter again will
effectively press the stop button.
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I’m using 813, why, does it matter what model?
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> On Nov 8, 2023, at 10:28 AM, Herbie Allen wrote:
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> Which model iPhone?
>
>> On Nov 7, 2023, at 18:50, Phil Halton wrote:
>>
>> It’s really hard to sift through all the advertisements out
It’s really hard to sift through all the advertisements out there for iPhone
external mics so I’m asking here hoping someone is using a great product. What
I am looking for: it must be an Omni directional microphone, not a cardio and
pattern. Hopefully a good quality omnidirectional condenser
I’m not a regular zoom user, but my last zoom there was a problem with
voiceover bleeding in to my audio channel. It was a distraction for the other
meeting members. You might want to think about perhaps muting voiceover, or
using some in your earbuds so only you hear the voice over.
Sent from
Add interruptions on safari using iOS are making Safari almost unusable when
searching through a Google search. When I load a page I’m constantly
interrupted with ad loading. I’ve tried turning off pop-up blocking in Safari
settings and I have tried using the reader in page settings both are
Usually I find them at the very end of the email message. A move to the toolbar
is at the bottom of the screen and then start flicking left until I enter the
message and there it usually is.
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> On Sep 13, 2023, at 2:09 PM, Mohammad Fazil wrote:
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> Lately, it has become
and stop recording and all recordings are available to play right in the app. It also has a great Apple watch app that literally starts recording as soon as you open it.On Wed, Aug 9, 2023 at 6:34 PM Phil Halton <philh...@gmail.com> wrote:Yes Lori, I use RecUp too. But I want to be able to pla
r it to work. it’s extremely easy to use.
>
>> On Aug 9, 2023, at 3:24 PM, Phil Halton wrote:
>>
>> I’m looking for a simple, no-frills recording app for the iPhone. Just a
>> straightforward record/playback type of app that is easy and uncomplicated
>>
I’m looking for a simple, no-frills recording app for the iPhone. Just a
straightforward record/playback type of app that is easy and uncomplicated to
use. Any suggestions?
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With some recent release, Siri has become, comma happy. When I dictate things
to her, she automatically inserts commas and probably other punctuation. I’m
not aware of into my text. There’s got to be a setting to turn this off
somewhere, any help?
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> On Jun 25, 2023, at 7:55 PM, Phil Halton wrote:
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> You didn’t say what app you are using to read the PDF. Personally, I always
> use voice dream reader for all my reading. It seems to be the best most
> accessible interface for
You didn’t say what app you are using to read the PDF. Personally, I always use
voice dream reader for all my reading. It seems to be the best most accessible
interface for reading most types of documents.
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> On Jun 25, 2023, at 6:18 PM, Rebecca Sabo wrote:
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> Hi, all,
Has anyone else noticed that the item chooser in iOS, activated with a two
finger triple tap, is very unreliable? I find that it rarely works in webpages
with a lot of links. Or, sometimes it will work once, and no more while on that
same page. is item chooser unable to handle a large number of
I need a dehumidifier that I can control either by an iOS app or through Alexa.
Does anybody have experience with dehumidifiers? There are brands like
Honeywell, midea, homelabs, etc.
Thanks for any help you can offer.
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> Best of luck!
>
> Cheers!
>
> Cara
>
>
>> On May 30, 2023, at 8:20 AM, Phil Halton wrote:
>>
>> For some reason the Face ID feature on my iPhone 13 has stopped working
>> throughout the system, and on all apps that use it. I have don
For some reason the Face ID feature on my iPhone 13 has stopped working
throughout the system, and on all apps that use it. I have done the following:
rebooted the phone, always a good first step. Then I went into Face ID settings
and reset Face ID, and made sure that requires attention was not
When playing a music app radio station, between songs, I get that annoying
happy sound, three rapid ascending beeps, just like you get on the iPhone. This
sound effect just showed up today so probably an update? Any way to shut off
sound effects, indicating transition to new song in the Mac
What the heck is wrong with PayPal using Safari on the Mac? I just sent the
payment. Got all the way to the end, selecting the proper payment source, and
there was no send button anywhere to be found. I had to cancel out of it and
make the payment on my iPhone. At least there there is a send
I’m trying to downgrade my iCloud storage from the 50 GB back to the free 5 GB.
I’ve deleted all the data in excess of the five gig limit and I can select the
5 GB plan in iOS settings under manage iCloud storage, but I can’t complete the
action because the done button is grayed out. It will
Thanks Andrews, I think I’ll probably try that Google translate app.Sent from my IPhoneOn Apr 2, 2023, at 2:44 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:Hi!She can not translate to Swedish anyway so I use google translate./A31 mars 2023 kl. 20:45 skrev Phil Halton :That’s not true Anders. I used to do this all
/character.MinhOn Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 2:33 PM Phil Halton <philh...@gmail.com> wrote:I want to be able to ask my iPhone, “how do I say XXX or whatever, in Spanish“. And then I want to be able to review on screen word by word or character by character the response. I don’t wanna use a desktop app.
Sent f
and you can use rotor gestures to read by word/character.MinhOn Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 2:33 PM Phil Halton <philh...@gmail.com> wrote:I want to be able to ask my iPhone, “how do I say XXX or whatever, in Spanish“. And then I want to be able to review on screen word by word or character by cha
> I solely rely on Google Translate for all my translation needs.
>
>
> Minh Ha
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>> On Mar 30, 2023, at 11:40 AM, Phil Halton wrote:
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>> Is there a good and accessible translation app for iOS? I find the stock
>> tran
Is there a good and accessible translation app for iOS? I find the stock
translation app that comes with iOS to be a bit lame and unusable.
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And, you can always ask Siri “what song, or what album, or what artist, is this “.Sent from my IPhoneOn Mar 27, 2023, at 2:03 PM, Herbie Allen wrote:You can also find out on the lock screen.On Mar 27, 2023, at 12:32, Patrick Ford wrote:Hi, when the now playing screen is optimized song titles
nced with DB on the Mac And did you
> then sync whatever you want to use with iCloud Drive?
>
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
> will make violent revolution inevitable."
> --John F. Kennedy
> My e-Mail:
> ancient.ali...@iclo
ng correctly in Dropbox. Have you tried reinstalling
> Dropbox?
>
>> On Mar 11, 2023, at 11:44, Phil Halton wrote:
>>
>> I planned to cancel my dropbox subscription and made a copy of everything in
>> dropbox and place it in iCloud. It totals less than 30gb. But, media fi
I planned to cancel my dropbox subscription and made a copy of everything in
dropbox and place it in iCloud. It totals less than 30gb. But, media files like
mp3, m4a, etc are problematic. Trying to open any media file in either iCloud
or the local dropbox folders is most likely to result in an
bie Allen wrote:
>
> I have not had this issue, but I wonder if the folder fully downloaded? Do
> you keep the app running on the Mac? Also, what happens if you access the
> folder by going to the Dropbox app in the Apps folder?
>
>> On Mar 9, 2023, at 08:28, Phil Halton
OK, I re-synced several folders from dropbox.com back down onto my max hard
drive. I am able to access the contents of these files if I use the dropbox iOS
app, but if I use the max file browser and try to open them, I can’t get them
to open. I have tried opening them with a different apps,
OK, so I upgraded to a 50 GB storage plan on iCloud, and then I transferred a
slew of files into the iCloud Drive. I made a new folder, called my stuff, not
that that’s important, and just copied an entire directories structure from my
local dropbox files into that iCloud folder. Well, From the
My dropbox subscription is coming up for renewal and I'm thinking about
cancelling and just going with iCloud drive storage. I have less than
30Gigabyte of files that I want to keep and that'll cost me .99 cents instead
of $10 per month for fropbox's 2 terabyte.
Question: I see a handful of
Karen, did you really mean to say make uninformed decisions? Maybe you should
turn off the auto spellchecker☺️. Perhaps you could dial back the snootyness a
little bit too. There was nothing condescending in Brad’s remark. The
perception of condescension is in your mind only. It really sucks
I just upgraded to iOS 16 and it seems to have changed the sound for Siri when
you press the side button to get her attention. I really don’t like this sound,
in fact, when I’m out and about I can’t really hear it because of ambient
noise. The same goes for the sound when double tapping for
I didn’t see any price information. Is this a free course?Sent from my IPhoneOn Feb 18, 2023, at 10:21 PM, Herbie Allen wrote:Yes. The course has a focus on methods of navigation as well as understandning how the mac works.On Feb 18, 2023, at 20:53, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:Would
anything. We're already half way to iOS 17!
>>
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
>> will make violent revolution inevitable."
>> --John F. Kennedy
>> My e-Mail:
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>
I am still using iOS 15. Have they shaken the bugs out of iOS 16 with version
three yet or is it still not a good idea to upgrade?. I don’t want to lose
accessibility or sensitivity of the screen or any functionality for that matter.
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It all really depends on what you use the machine for. If you’re doing heavy
audio and video processing then yeah, load up on the ram and the SSD. Me, I
could get by on the bare-bones configuration because I only do email,
Spreadsheet, and a little Text and sometimes and sometimes audio
My doctor says I have high blood pressure and wants me to monitor it. I’m
looking on Amazon and I see a lot of monitors some of them Bluetooth enabled.
I’m wondering, does anyone know of a really good and accessible blood pressure
monitor that I can read the results on my iPhone? Otherwise
Hi ET, true they are off topic, but a good pissing contest helps to brighten an
otherwise dreary Sunday afternoon. don’t you agree?
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> On Jan 8, 2023, at 2:00 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
> wrote:
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> With all due respect, it has to do with the list
Thanks for the heads up I’m sticking with iOS 15 for a good while at least
until they shake all this out.
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> On Dec 28, 2022, at 4:29 PM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
> Hi all:
> So for months the Ring app was broken with iOS 16 all builds. Worked fine in
> 15.
Fairly often I get a situation where Siri cannot process requests such as
identifying a song, doing basic math calculations, or even just telling the
time. I am assuming that it is on Apple servers and that they must be getting
bogged down from heavy traffic. Is anyone else experiencing a
that’s fairly
convincible. Lots of features and options. And you can download pla playlists
of pre-programmed charts off of the website via the app. Great resource for
anyone who needs a real book. A real pro
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> On Dec 3, 2022, at 12:34 PM, Phil Halton wr
Is there a such a beast? Any musician should know what I’m talking about. It’s
a fake book with the chords and melody for various jazz standards. All I can
find are graphical images of the chord symbols which obviously voice over makes
no sense self. Is there anything where they actually write
On a sidenote have the bugs been shaken out of iOS 16 yet? I’m being prompted
to upgrade but if I recall there were some problems. Is it safe to go upstairs
yet?
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> On Nov 29, 2022, at 10:46 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
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> Thanks, Brad. I had turned
Have they finally fixed the status of the check/unchecked folders in the
selective sink window? It used to be that you never know if you were checking
around checking a folder because the check box was not spoken. I remember it
was a real problem for a long time with a lot of people
I’d like to get a security camera that I can plug into the light socket on my
front porch and access on my iPhone. I also make increasing use of Alexa, so
any that work well with Alexa also would be welcome recommendations. Looking
for simple, easy to connect, accessible on iPhone. Thanks in
It does definitely sound like a sleep issue. Which is not an issue at all,
that’s the way it’s made to conserve battery power. Although, you can change
the amount of time that elapses before the Mac will go to sleep. It’s in
settings somewhere, I don’t have a Mac in front of me but I’m sure you
erg wrote:
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> Hi!
> Dev.apple.com/accessibility I think.
> Try that and if it doesn’t work I can check things out for you.
> /A
>
>> 6 sep. 2022 kl. 19:06 skrev Phil Halton :
>>
>> My bank has been hassling me to help them to make their app accessible for
My bank has been hassling me to help them to make their app accessible for the
blind. Where can I direct them in the Apple website for their coding department
to find all they need about how to code an app for Accessibility. I know Apple
has information on the developers website for coding for
A simple Google search for “removing tips from iPods Max“ will give you the
information. I tried to paste it in but ran into trouble. I guess you’re
supposed to pinch the rubber/silicon insert on either side and then pull it
straight out until it pops off. But check Google for more
d you signup?
> Through Apple, or Google?
> By the way, Apple charges about $15 where as going directly through Google is
> $11.99 per month.
> Rob
>
>> On Aug 18, 2022, at 6:46 PM, Phil Halton wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Well, same options from the laptop as from th
18, 2022, at 1:30 PM, mr.robertcole via MacVisionaries
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I don’t believe you can cancel on the mobile app.
> Try from a computer.
> Rob
>
>
>> On Aug 18, 2022, at 12:02 PM, Phil Halton wrote:
>>
>> I signed up for a free trial an
I signed up for a free trial and it’s about to expire. I want to make sure I
don’t get clipped for a auto renewal fee. I went into settings and found my
subscription there and it gave only an option to renew. Does this mean they’re
not going to auto renew? Any experience with auto premium
I really wish we could read by sentence or even by paragraph in the Books app.
Line by line doesn’t really cut it, and continuous reading isn’t all that
natural either.
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> wrote:
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> Steve,
>
> I don’t
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