Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-18 Thread Scott Granados
gt;> >>>> Your post to this list, using profanity, is unacceptable. Do not, under >>>> any circumstances, use profane language when posting to this group. >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-18 Thread Gary
;> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Terje Strømberg >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 1:26 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-18 Thread Scott Granados
ies@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Terje Strømberg >> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 1:26 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Cc: Terje Strømberg >> Subject: Re: To The List About The Recent Spam >> >

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-17 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Strømberg Subject: Re: To The List About The Recent Spam Yeah, very strange. I am fascinated about how the fuck can this be possible? Turned off my voice over. Some kind of script maybe. To me it is surprising and interesting how it can be done, but most of all i don’t want to excperience it again

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-17 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
Just have voiceover read a string with 100 characters all e followed by r to get it to crash. I look at the pending messages, and also tried on my own with one that was only in the text of the email message. With server crashed with that draft and I deleted the truck. Jonathan Cohn > On

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-17 Thread Eric Oyen
On Behalf Of Terje Strømberg > Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 1:26 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Cc: Terje Strømberg > Subject: Re: To The List About The Recent Spam > > Yeah, very strange. I am fascinated about how the fuck can this be possible? > T

RE: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-17 Thread M. Taylor
Strømberg Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 1:26 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Cc: Terje Strømberg Subject: Re: To The List About The Recent Spam Yeah, very strange. I am fascinated about how the fuck can this be possible? Turned off my voice over. Some kind of script maybe. To me

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-17 Thread Terje Strømberg
Yeah, very strange. I am fascinated about how the fuck can this be possible? Turned off my voice over. Some kind of script maybe. To me it is surprising and interesting how it can be done, but most of all i don’t want to excperience it again. Very bad. Take care 17. feb. 2016 kl. 22:04 skrev

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-17 Thread Marie Lyons
I can’t seem to correct it. I went in and unchecked checkboxes but I still have 3 voices. I guess what I’m needing is step by step instruction. I have a call in to accessibility support for follow-up on the spam issue.. Perhaps he can help me solve this. This didn’t seem to be a place to save

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-17 Thread Jessica Moss
Ok, I was under the impression that the unopened messages had those strings of characters attached to them, and that was what caused them. That was what started it on my end anyhow. The first one I got had one, and I thought voiceover was studdring when it crashed, but it was simply trying

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-17 Thread Sandi Jazmin Kruse
okay, so here goes, if you look at the mails that is eventually shooting VO down, there is no strange letters in the subject, we are 4 different persons who is trying to fix this into a update so it don't happen again, but is hard too duplicate. Could someone be so kind as to send me a private

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-17 Thread Andrew Lamanche
In VoiceOver utility, under speech category, set all your voices to Alex and Alex to be your default voice. It seems as if somehow the announcements are made by a different voice rather than default. hope this helps. Andrew > On 16 Feb 2016, at 23:10, Marie Lyons wrote:

RE: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-16 Thread BBS
- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marie Lyons Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 5:11 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: To The List About The Recent Spam V/O F8 doesn’t do anything on my computer. Well since then I wound

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-16 Thread Marie Lyons
V/O F8 doesn’t do anything on my computer. Well since then I wound up with 3 different voices. Alex reads the message but Victoria and Fred seem to make the announcements. I don’t like this. I have no idea why I can’t fix it. Marie Lyons > On Feb 15, 2016, at 9:18 PM, CJ Daniel

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-16 Thread CJ Daniel
Marie, Press VO-F8 to launch the VO Utility. VO-Shift-DownArrow on the Category table. Arrow to the Speech option. VO-Shift-UpArrow to stop interacting & move right to the voice options. Press VO-SpaceBar to select it. Down Arrow to the Configure option. Pick any other voice than Alex,

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-16 Thread Vaughn Brown
I really appreciate your efforts. Vaughn On 2/16/16, Scott Granados wrote: > It seems isolated to Alex, other voices aren’t impacted for some reason. > >> On Feb 14, 2016, at 11:06 PM, David Chittenden >> wrote: >> >> Interestingly, the string does

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-16 Thread Scott Granados
It seems isolated to Alex, other voices aren’t impacted for some reason. > On Feb 14, 2016, at 11:06 PM, David Chittenden wrote: > > Interestingly, the string does not effect my iPhone running the Karen > Australia voice. > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email:

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-16 Thread Stacey Robinson
: Monday, February 15, 2016 8:30 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: To The List About The Recent Spam > > Hello George, > > First of all, the command to open the VO utility is VO-F8. Then, it is not > only the

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-16 Thread Anne Robertson
t; To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: To The List About The Recent Spam > > Hello George, > > First of all, the command to open the VO utility is VO-F8. Then, it is not > only the Alex voice that is affected. I do not hav

RE: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Simon Fogarty
@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: To The List About The Recent Spam also on the new mac book pros 2015 and newer with no optical drive there is no power button and the old eject button is now the power button On Feb 15, 2016, at 7:11 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com<mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote:

RE: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Simon Fogarty
Subject: Re: To The List About The Recent Spam Hi Also I restarted my computer several times and I still don't have speech Caitlyn Sent from Caitlyn's I phone On Feb 15, 2016, at 9:29 AM, Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk<mailto:a...@anarchie.org.uk>> wrote: Hello George,

RE: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Simon Fogarty
: To The List About The Recent Spam i contactted apple senior tech this morning and they had me send them a email forward with the dreaded er string in the subject line. they told me to let all know that suggestion is to change your defalt from alix and that they should have the issue fixed

RE: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Debbie April Yuille
@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: To The List About The Recent Spam Hi thanks for your input my computer isn't talking at all and I have no vision so I can't do what you suggested any other ideas thanks Caitlyn Sent from Caitlyn's I phone On Feb 15, 2016, at 9:25 AM, Basioli George <gbma...@gmail.

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Jessica Moss
Amen to that, These lists get hacked all the time, so what can you do? On Feb 14, 2016, at 11:04 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: > Mark, > > Don't beat yourself up over this. > > You're doing the best you can, and that is all anyone ever could ask of you. > > On

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Jessica Moss
That was actually the same thing I thought of. I find it extremely childish that people would do something like that. I remember someone posting something on zonebbs.com, that apparently was immediately taken down, but talked about a lot, that someone pretended was a game, but was a long

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Alex Hall
Simply switch voices to Samantha, Ava, Tom, or any of the other Nuance voices. Alternatively, use a Windows computer, or iOS device with any voice other than Alex, to delete the messages that contain the string which crashes Mac speech synthesizers. > On Feb 15, 2016, at 20:19, Marie Lyons

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Marie Lyons
My v/o keeps shutting down. What can I do to fix it? Marie Lyons. I had called disability support and they couldn’t figure it out. Help greatly appreciated Marie Lyons > On Feb 14, 2016, at 10:55 PM, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > I became aware of the offensive

RE: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread BBS
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 8:30 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: To The List About The Recent Spam Hello George, First of all, the command to open the VO utility

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Eric Oyen
it isn't so much that they have a lot of time on their hands. It's that they have no ethics and also no emotional control. Believe it or not, there are those of us (who are still hackers) that have ethics. we are few and very far between. I am not a coder, so I don't deal with that end of

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
of these things I've reported which are completely public knowledge, then just ask. clgillan...@gmail.com Chris. - Original Message - From: "Donna Goodin" <doniado...@me.com> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 8:51 AM Subject:

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
OK, so it looks like com.apple.speech.speechsynthesisd deadlocks when this happens. Anyone else want to try deliberately reproducing this, and then, using Terminal, try “sudo killall -9 com.apple.speech.speechsynthesisd”? You should find that it comes back again shortly after you execute that

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Helga Schreiber
Hi all! How are you al!! I'm glad that I did not use my Mac to find those scam emails! I actually use my iPhone 6S and I do have Alex on it and it was getting crash all the time! And I did not know what was happening! And I needed to check important email messages! I actually delete my

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Stacey Robinson
Can someone explain to me what this person did and how to keep it from happening again? I’ve had to restart several times but vo with Alex is working for me now. I’ve also had to delete massive amounts of mail. Blessings, Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Basioli George
also on the new mac book pros 2015 and newer with no optical drive there is no power button and the old eject button is now the power button > On Feb 15, 2016, at 7:11 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > That makes sense. On the MacBook Air, the Power button and the Eject button >

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Donna Goodin
That makes sense. On the MacBook Air, the Power button and the Eject button are the same. Cheers, Donna > On Feb 15, 2016, at 9:02 AM, Caitlyn Furness > wrote: > > Just fyi, this trick also works on the desk top mac, but it’s then control, > option, command eject

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Caitlyn Furness
thanks Donna. Cait > On Feb 15, 2016, at 9:41 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > Caitlyn, > > After restarting, if you don't get speech, press Command F5 to start > Voiceover. That should work. I did have to do that once. > Cheers, > Donna >> On Feb 15, 2016, at 8:31 AM, Caitlyn

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Caitlyn Furness
Just tried this with the other machine also, and only get bonks. Weird, and annoying!! Some people really have a lot of time on their hands these days! Caitlyn > On Feb 15, 2016, at 9:41 AM, Jeff Berwick wrote: > > Alternatively, you can hold down vo command and

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Caitlyn Furness
Hi Ann, thanks for your suggestions. I managed to get my own i mac speaking again by doing the vo f5 command. I did go and change my default from Alex to Moira, just in case. My husband’s mac is still fubar, and I’ve restarted it several times. It makes a bonking noise when I try to go

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Caitlyn Furness
Just fyi, this trick also works on the desk top mac, but it’s then control, option, command eject instead of power.. hth, Caitlyn > On Feb 15, 2016, at 9:48 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > Anne > > I'd never heard of the Cmd-Option-Ctrl power shut down option. Thanks for >

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Jeff Berwick
Alternatively, you can hold down vo command and use your right and left arrows to get to the speech setting. You can then switch to using the up and down arrows with vo + command pressed to cycle through the options. Just a little easier. Hah, Jeff > On Feb 15, 2016, at 9:25 AM, Basioli

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Caitlyn, Try pressing Cmd-F5 to get VoiceOver back. I was able to delete all the messages using my Mac, but I have the preview pane disabled, so messages do not open automatically when I land on them. Yet another reason to dislike the preview pane. Also, having shut down your Mac, you

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Donna Goodin
Anne I'd never heard of the Cmd-Option-Ctrl power shut down option. Thanks for sharing that. What a useful trick when you find yourself in a situation where forcing shut down is the only option. Cheers, Donna > On Feb 15, 2016, at 8:44 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > >

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Donna Goodin
Caitlyn, I was actually able to just quit mail, and then press the power button for a couple of seconds then press Enter. This will shut your computer down. If for some reason that doesn't work, just hold down the power button for about 5 seconds. Your computer will force shut down. By the

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Donna Goodin
Caitlyn, After restarting, if you don't get speech, press Command F5 to start Voiceover. That should work. I did have to do that once. Cheers, Donna > On Feb 15, 2016, at 8:31 AM, Caitlyn F wrote: > > Hi > Also I restarted my computer several times and I still

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Caitlyn F
Hi Also I restarted my computer several times and I still don't have speech Caitlyn Sent from Caitlyn's I phone > On Feb 15, 2016, at 9:29 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > > Hello George, > > First of all, the command to open the VO utility is VO-F8. Then, it is not > only

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Jeffrey Shockley
Hi, As has been said multiple times, the way to fix it is to either read those E-Mails on your phone using a different voice other than Alex or something else to get those ones deleted, or restart your Mac by using the power button to shut it down and then turning it back on, and when doing

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello George, First of all, the command to open the VO utility is VO-F8. Then, it is not only the Alex voice that is affected. I do not have Alex on my Mac! I use Fred and quite a few other voices in Various languages. Switching to a French voice did not work for me. I had to do a restart to

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Caitlyn F
Hi thanks for your input my computer isn't talking at all and I have no vision so I can't do what you suggested any other ideas thanks Caitlyn Sent from Caitlyn's I phone > On Feb 15, 2016, at 9:25 AM, Basioli George wrote: > > do the following > > command f8 to open the

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Donna Goodin
Caitlyn, Just restart your Mac. Once restarted, do not reopen mail. Go into Voiceover and change to a non-Apple voice, such as Eva. If you don't have one of the non-Apple voices installed, you can download them in Voiceover Prefs, under Speech, then Voices. Once there, select customize and

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Basioli George
do the following command f8 to open the voice over utilities in the table inter act and arrow down to speech and stop interactting v o right errow to the defalt voice pup up menu and it will read alix since this is your defalt set voice v o spacebar on this and arrow down to a new voice and do v

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Caitlyn F
Hi how do you fix this problem doesn't only affect the Alex screenreader my mac is completely useless right now and all I have to work with is my iPhone thanks a lot Caitlyn Sent from Caitlyn's I phone > On Feb 15, 2016, at 9:11 AM, Andrew wrote: > > y screen reader stopped

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Andrew
y screen reader stopped talking and I had to force shut the ocmputer. Yes, we are grateful for helping us with this unacdceptale action. Andrews problem. On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 4:05:24 AM UTC, Chris Gilland wrote: > > Mark, > > Don't beat yourself up over this. > > You're doing the

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Donna Goodin
Nice. Thanks for doing this. Cheers, Donna > On Feb 15, 2016, at 7:43 AM, Basioli George wrote: > > i contactted apple senior tech this morning and they had me send them a email > forward with the dreaded er string in the subject line. > they told me to let all know that

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Basioli George
i contactted apple senior tech this morning and they had me send them a email forward with the dreaded er string in the subject line. they told me to let all know that suggestion is to change your defalt from alix and that they should have the issue fixed by wed otr thursday of this week. said

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
Alex Hall wrote: > Same with the Mac, but Alex is default on the Mac whereas Samantha is > default on iOS. The default varies by country/region, but I think it's always a Nuance synthesizer under iOS. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Donna Goodin
Ah, yes, that would be the difference - I use Samantha. Cheers, Donna > On Feb 15, 2016, at 7:23 AM, Alex Hall wrote: > > Just for the record, it seems to impact the Alex voice on iOS. The main > difference is that you can simply restart VoiceOver and everything is fine, >

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Alex Hall
Just for the record, it seems to impact the Alex voice on iOS. The main difference is that you can simply restart VoiceOver and everything is fine, but on the Mac, the entire system becomes useless until you restart. On iOS, if you use Samantha, a Siri voice, or other Nuance voices, you'll be

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Donna Goodin
Just in case anything like this happens again, I found that it did not impact my iPhone. So by switching over to my phone to deal with mail, I was able to get rid of all his messages. Thank you, Cara, Chris, and Mark for getting on this so quickly. Cheers, Donna > On Feb 15, 2016, at 5:24 AM,

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Ray Foret Jr
It shut down my Alex also. Had to reset my Mac and now am using the US English Tom voice which it seems not to effect. Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Anne Robertson
In fact, I think it affects Apple voices in general as I use Fred and it shut that voice down too. Switching to a French voice didn’t help either. I wound up restarting my Mac four times before I got rid of all the offending messages. Cheers, Anne > On 15 Feb 2016, at 05:25, Mary Otten

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-14 Thread Mary Otten
It seems the only thing this affects is the Alex voice. So even on a Mac, if you have other voices, I would think it should be possible to solve the problem. This is rather like the stupid juvenile trick people were playing with jaws a few years ago. I think it was eloquence that had a string

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-14 Thread David Chittenden
Interestingly, the string does not effect my iPhone running the Karen Australia voice. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone > On 15 Feb 2016, at 13:55, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > I became aware

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-14 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Mark, Don't beat yourself up over this. You're doing the best you can, and that is all anyone ever could ask of you. On behalf of the whole list, we thank you very very greatly for all you're doing! Chris. - Original Message - From: "M. Taylor" To: