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>>>> Your post to this list, using profanity, is unacceptable. Do not, under
>>>> any circumstances, use profane language when posting to this group.
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>>>> Thank you,
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>>>> Mark
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>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Terje Strømberg
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 1:26 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>
ies@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Terje Strømberg
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 1:26 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Cc: Terje Strømberg
>> Subject: Re: To The List About The Recent Spam
>>
>
Strømberg
Subject: Re: To The List About The Recent Spam
Yeah, very strange. I am fascinated about how the fuck can this be possible?
Turned off my voice over. Some kind of script maybe. To me it is surprising and
interesting how it can be done, but most of all i don’t want to excperience it
again
Just have voiceover read a string with 100 characters all e followed by r to
get it to crash. I look at the pending messages, and also tried on my own with
one that was only in the text of the email message. With server crashed with
that draft and I deleted the truck.
Jonathan Cohn
> On
On Behalf Of Terje Strømberg
> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 1:26 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Cc: Terje Strømberg
> Subject: Re: To The List About The Recent Spam
>
> Yeah, very strange. I am fascinated about how the fuck can this be possible?
> T
Strømberg
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 1:26 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Cc: Terje Strømberg
Subject: Re: To The List About The Recent Spam
Yeah, very strange. I am fascinated about how the fuck can this be possible?
Turned off my voice over. Some kind of script maybe. To me
Yeah, very strange. I am fascinated about how the fuck can this be possible?
Turned off my voice over. Some kind of script maybe. To me it is surprising and
interesting how it can be done, but most of all i don’t want to excperience it
again. Very bad.
Take care
17. feb. 2016 kl. 22:04 skrev
I can’t seem to correct it. I went in and unchecked checkboxes but I still have
3 voices. I guess what I’m needing is step by step instruction. I have a call
in to accessibility support for follow-up on the spam issue.. Perhaps he can
help me solve this. This didn’t seem to be a place to save
Ok, I was under the impression that the unopened messages had those strings of
characters attached to them, and that was what caused them. That was what
started it on my end anyhow.
The first one I got had one, and I thought voiceover was studdring when it
crashed, but it was simply trying
okay, so here goes, if you look at the mails that is eventually
shooting VO down, there is no strange letters in the subject, we are 4
different persons who is trying to fix this into a update so it don't
happen again, but is hard too duplicate.
Could someone be so kind as to send me a private
In VoiceOver utility, under speech category, set all your voices to Alex and
Alex to be your default voice. It seems as if somehow the announcements are
made by a different voice rather than default.
hope this helps.
Andrew
> On 16 Feb 2016, at 23:10, Marie Lyons wrote:
-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Marie Lyons
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 5:11 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: To The List About The Recent Spam
V/O F8 doesn’t do anything on my computer. Well since then I wound
V/O F8 doesn’t do anything on my computer. Well since then I wound up with 3
different voices. Alex reads the message but Victoria and Fred seem to make the
announcements. I don’t like this. I have no idea why I can’t fix it.
Marie Lyons
> On Feb 15, 2016, at 9:18 PM, CJ Daniel
Marie,
Press VO-F8 to launch the VO Utility. VO-Shift-DownArrow on the Category
table. Arrow to the Speech option. VO-Shift-UpArrow to stop interacting &
move right to the voice options. Press VO-SpaceBar to select it. Down Arrow
to the Configure option. Pick any other voice than Alex,
I really appreciate your efforts.
Vaughn
On 2/16/16, Scott Granados wrote:
> It seems isolated to Alex, other voices aren’t impacted for some reason.
>
>> On Feb 14, 2016, at 11:06 PM, David Chittenden
>> wrote:
>>
>> Interestingly, the string does
It seems isolated to Alex, other voices aren’t impacted for some reason.
> On Feb 14, 2016, at 11:06 PM, David Chittenden wrote:
>
> Interestingly, the string does not effect my iPhone running the Karen
> Australia voice.
>
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email:
: Monday, February 15, 2016 8:30 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: To The List About The Recent Spam
>
> Hello George,
>
> First of all, the command to open the VO utility is VO-F8. Then, it is not
> only the
t; To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: To The List About The Recent Spam
>
> Hello George,
>
> First of all, the command to open the VO utility is VO-F8. Then, it is not
> only the Alex voice that is affected. I do not hav
@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: To The List About The Recent Spam
also on the new mac book pros 2015 and newer with no optical drive there is no
power button and the old eject button is now the power button
On Feb 15, 2016, at 7:11 AM, Donna Goodin
<doniado...@me.com<mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote:
Subject: Re: To The List About The Recent Spam
Hi
Also I restarted my computer several times and I still don't have speech Caitlyn
Sent from Caitlyn's I phone
On Feb 15, 2016, at 9:29 AM, Anne Robertson
<a...@anarchie.org.uk<mailto:a...@anarchie.org.uk>> wrote:
Hello George,
: To The List About The Recent Spam
i contactted apple senior tech this morning and they had me send them a email
forward with the dreaded er string in the subject line.
they told me to let all know that suggestion is to change your defalt from alix
and that they should have the issue fixed
@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: To The List About The Recent Spam
Hi thanks for your input my computer isn't talking at all and I have no vision
so I can't do what you suggested any other ideas thanks Caitlyn
Sent from Caitlyn's I phone
On Feb 15, 2016, at 9:25 AM, Basioli George <gbma...@gmail.
Amen to that, These lists get hacked all the time, so what can you do?
On Feb 14, 2016, at 11:04 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
wrote:
> Mark,
>
> Don't beat yourself up over this.
>
> You're doing the best you can, and that is all anyone ever could ask of you.
>
> On
That was actually the same thing I thought of. I find it extremely childish
that people would do something like that.
I remember someone posting something on zonebbs.com, that apparently was
immediately taken down, but talked about a lot, that someone pretended was a
game, but was a long
Simply switch voices to Samantha, Ava, Tom, or any of the other Nuance voices.
Alternatively, use a Windows computer, or iOS device with any voice other than
Alex, to delete the messages that contain the string which crashes Mac speech
synthesizers.
> On Feb 15, 2016, at 20:19, Marie Lyons
My v/o keeps shutting down. What can I do to fix it?
Marie Lyons. I had called disability support and they couldn’t figure it out.
Help greatly appreciated
Marie Lyons
> On Feb 14, 2016, at 10:55 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I became aware of the offensive
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 8:30 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: To The List About The Recent Spam
Hello George,
First of all, the command to open the VO utility
it isn't so much that they have a lot of time on their hands. It's that they
have no ethics and also no emotional control. Believe it or not, there are
those of us (who are still hackers) that have ethics. we are few and very far
between. I am not a coder, so I don't deal with that end of
of these things I've reported which are completely public
knowledge, then just ask.
clgillan...@gmail.com
Chris.
- Original Message -
From: "Donna Goodin" <doniado...@me.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 8:51 AM
Subject:
OK, so it looks like com.apple.speech.speechsynthesisd deadlocks when this
happens.
Anyone else want to try deliberately reproducing this, and then, using
Terminal, try “sudo killall -9 com.apple.speech.speechsynthesisd”? You should
find that it comes back again shortly after you execute that
Hi all! How are you al!! I'm glad that I did not use my Mac to find those scam
emails! I actually use my iPhone 6S and I do have Alex on it and it was
getting crash all the time! And I did not know what was happening! And I
needed to check important email messages! I actually delete my
Can someone explain to me what this person did and how to keep it from
happening again?
I’ve had to restart several times but vo with Alex is working for me now.
I’ve also had to delete massive amounts of mail.
Blessings,
Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.
also on the new mac book pros 2015 and newer with no optical drive there is no
power button and the old eject button is now the power button
> On Feb 15, 2016, at 7:11 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>
> That makes sense. On the MacBook Air, the Power button and the Eject button
>
That makes sense. On the MacBook Air, the Power button and the Eject button
are the same.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Feb 15, 2016, at 9:02 AM, Caitlyn Furness
> wrote:
>
> Just fyi, this trick also works on the desk top mac, but it’s then control,
> option, command eject
thanks Donna.
Cait
> On Feb 15, 2016, at 9:41 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>
> Caitlyn,
>
> After restarting, if you don't get speech, press Command F5 to start
> Voiceover. That should work. I did have to do that once.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Feb 15, 2016, at 8:31 AM, Caitlyn
Just tried this with the other machine also, and only get bonks.
Weird, and annoying!!
Some people really have a lot of time on their hands these days!
Caitlyn
> On Feb 15, 2016, at 9:41 AM, Jeff Berwick wrote:
>
> Alternatively, you can hold down vo command and
Hi Ann,
thanks for your suggestions. I managed to get my own i mac speaking again by
doing the vo f5 command. I did go and change my default from Alex to Moira,
just in case.
My husband’s mac is still fubar, and I’ve restarted it several times. It makes
a bonking noise when I try to go
Just fyi, this trick also works on the desk top mac, but it’s then control,
option, command eject instead of power..
hth,
Caitlyn
> On Feb 15, 2016, at 9:48 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>
> Anne
>
> I'd never heard of the Cmd-Option-Ctrl power shut down option. Thanks for
>
Alternatively, you can hold down vo command and use your right and left arrows
to get to the speech setting. You can then switch to using the up and down
arrows with vo + command pressed to cycle through the options.
Just a little easier.
Hah,
Jeff
> On Feb 15, 2016, at 9:25 AM, Basioli
Hello Caitlyn,
Try pressing Cmd-F5 to get VoiceOver back.
I was able to delete all the messages using my Mac, but I have the preview pane
disabled, so messages do not open automatically when I land on them. Yet
another reason to dislike the preview pane.
Also, having shut down your Mac, you
Anne
I'd never heard of the Cmd-Option-Ctrl power shut down option. Thanks for
sharing that. What a useful trick when you find yourself in a situation where
forcing shut down is the only option.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Feb 15, 2016, at 8:44 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
>
>
Caitlyn,
I was actually able to just quit mail, and then press the power button for a
couple of seconds then press Enter. This will shut your computer down. If for
some reason that doesn't work, just hold down the power button for about 5
seconds. Your computer will force shut down. By the
Caitlyn,
After restarting, if you don't get speech, press Command F5 to start Voiceover.
That should work. I did have to do that once.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Feb 15, 2016, at 8:31 AM, Caitlyn F wrote:
>
> Hi
> Also I restarted my computer several times and I still
Hi
Also I restarted my computer several times and I still don't have speech Caitlyn
Sent from Caitlyn's I phone
> On Feb 15, 2016, at 9:29 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
>
> Hello George,
>
> First of all, the command to open the VO utility is VO-F8. Then, it is not
> only
Hi,
As has been said multiple times, the way to fix it is to either read those
E-Mails on your phone using a different voice other than Alex or something
else to get those ones deleted, or restart your Mac by using the power button
to shut it down and then turning it back on, and when doing
Hello George,
First of all, the command to open the VO utility is VO-F8. Then, it is not only
the Alex voice that is affected. I do not have Alex on my Mac! I use Fred and
quite a few other voices in Various languages. Switching to a French voice did
not work for me. I had to do a restart to
Hi thanks for your input my computer isn't talking at all and I have no vision
so I can't do what you suggested any other ideas thanks Caitlyn
Sent from Caitlyn's I phone
> On Feb 15, 2016, at 9:25 AM, Basioli George wrote:
>
> do the following
>
> command f8 to open the
Caitlyn,
Just restart your Mac. Once restarted, do not reopen mail. Go into Voiceover
and change to a non-Apple voice, such as Eva. If you don't have one of the
non-Apple voices installed, you can download them in Voiceover Prefs, under
Speech, then Voices. Once there, select customize and
do the following
command f8 to open the voice over utilities
in the table inter act and arrow down to speech and stop interactting
v o right errow to the defalt voice pup up menu and it will read alix since
this is your defalt set voice
v o spacebar on this and arrow down to a new voice and do v
Hi how do you fix this problem doesn't only affect the Alex screenreader my mac
is completely useless right now and all I have to work with is my iPhone thanks
a lot Caitlyn
Sent from Caitlyn's I phone
> On Feb 15, 2016, at 9:11 AM, Andrew wrote:
>
> y screen reader stopped
y screen reader stopped talking and I had to force shut the ocmputer. Yes,
we are grateful for helping us with this unacdceptale action. Andrews
problem.
On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 4:05:24 AM UTC, Chris Gilland wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> Don't beat yourself up over this.
>
> You're doing the
Nice. Thanks for doing this.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Feb 15, 2016, at 7:43 AM, Basioli George wrote:
>
> i contactted apple senior tech this morning and they had me send them a email
> forward with the dreaded er string in the subject line.
> they told me to let all know that
i contactted apple senior tech this morning and they had me send them a email
forward with the dreaded er string in the subject line.
they told me to let all know that suggestion is to change your defalt from alix
and that they should have the issue fixed by wed otr thursday of this week.
said
Alex Hall wrote:
> Same with the Mac, but Alex is default on the Mac whereas Samantha is
> default on iOS.
The default varies by country/region, but I think it's always a Nuance
synthesizer under iOS.
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The following information is important for all members of the Mac
Ah, yes, that would be the difference - I use Samantha.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Feb 15, 2016, at 7:23 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
>
> Just for the record, it seems to impact the Alex voice on iOS. The main
> difference is that you can simply restart VoiceOver and everything is fine,
>
Just for the record, it seems to impact the Alex voice on iOS. The main
difference is that you can simply restart VoiceOver and everything is fine, but
on the Mac, the entire system becomes useless until you restart. On iOS, if you
use Samantha, a Siri voice, or other Nuance voices, you'll be
Just in case anything like this happens again, I found that it did not impact
my iPhone. So by switching over to my phone to deal with mail, I was able to
get rid of all his messages. Thank you, Cara, Chris, and Mark for getting on
this so quickly.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Feb 15, 2016, at 5:24 AM,
It shut down my Alex also. Had to reset my Mac and now am using the US English
Tom voice which it seems not to effect.
Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind
built-in
Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice
In fact, I think it affects Apple voices in general as I use Fred and it shut
that voice down too. Switching to a French voice didn’t help either. I wound up
restarting my Mac four times before I got rid of all the offending messages.
Cheers,
Anne
> On 15 Feb 2016, at 05:25, Mary Otten
It seems the only thing this affects is the Alex voice. So even on a Mac, if
you have other voices, I would think it should be possible to solve the
problem. This is rather like the stupid juvenile trick people were playing with
jaws a few years ago. I think it was eloquence that had a string
Interestingly, the string does not effect my iPhone running the Karen Australia
voice.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone
> On 15 Feb 2016, at 13:55, M. Taylor wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I became aware
Mark,
Don't beat yourself up over this.
You're doing the best you can, and that is all anyone ever could ask of you.
On behalf of the whole list, we thank you very very greatly for all you're
doing!
Chris.
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